KnownUnknown:


Yes. With a caveat as seen in the edits I made above.

As for NDEs, there is no reason to call them hoaxes just like there is no reason to call dreams hoaxes. I can’t experience your dreaming and neither can you experience mine; and the same goes for NDEs or thinking or any other thing that is inherently subjective. Nevertheless, both dreams and NDEs are based on what a person has experienced or has knowledge of. So you can dream or have an NDE about UFOs.

TenQ:


That's why you couldn't answer this simple question!

You said:
"You cannot determine what is and what is not a hoax WITHOUT EVIDENCE."




Did you arrive at your NO answer by any EVIDENCE?

LordReed:



Is there something wrong with you? My no answer was explained over and over again and the reason why a hoax determination cannot be made and yet you are still asking me the same question. Where exactly are you having the trouble comprehending for Andromeda's sake.

I do not dismiss them as hoax because there isn't enough evidence to determine if they are or aren't. If after this statement you ask me the same question I will know you are disturbed in the head.

TenQ:

On what basis did you choose a NO rather than a YES.? Both of them have no evidence!

LordReed:


They are not the same.

Rosemaiden:


Those patients you mentioned have dissimilar experiences.

Spiritual experiences are general and universal among spiritual people. Dead people can't experience what living people experience.

You must be spiritually alive to have a spiritual experience. That's the first step.

TenQ:

1. If your answer was An UNEQUIVOCAL NO,
Then
a. Why did you choose this position
b. Why take such position when But you don't have ANY compelling EVIDENCES?

2. If your answer was An UNEQUIVOCAL YES,
Then
a. Why did you choose this position
b. Why take such position when you don't have ANY compelling EVIDENCES?


It seem that Your response after the initial statement NO was not to strongly affirm it but to dilute or mabe even oppose your initial NO position!

Ken4Christ:


There are overwhelming evidences of its reality.

And most of the information contained were divinely revealed. Without the Bible, we would have all been lost as to how the world began.

There was no way Moses who was not present during creation could have known how the earth was created. And how man fell from grace.

The fulfillment of most of the prophecies contained therein are proofs of its divine origin.

For example, Daniel interpreted the image that Nebuchadnezzar saw in his dream. And all the successive kingdoms happened just the way he foretold it.

And there is one last kingdom of the world that is about to be unfold; The revived Roman Empire which will be a confederation of ten European countries.

Daniel saw it and the book of Revelation gave more details about the kingdom.

But it will only be unveiled after the rapture of the church.

The anti Christ will only rule for 7 years.

Out of the seven years reign, the last three and a half years will be used to persecute the Jews.

His number is also revealed which is 666.

Explaining all these will take a whole book.

You are in the dark without the Bible.

Besides, it has made my life supernatural.

Being a true believer is a higher life. It's a better life and it's glorious life. Come and taste and see how good God is.

Even sex that is driving people crazy was created by God. Can't you see that God wants us to enjoy life to the full.

Under the old testament, honeymoon for new couples was for one year. And all the entitlement of the man must be paid for that one year. In other words, it is one year leave with full payment. Can't you see how good God is?

Embrace this gospel and upgrade your life.

Without Christ, you are lost and you are in the low level of life.

TenQ:
The initial Questions


Your Initial Response




You said NO!

NO meaning that:
If I get you right, you WON'T unequivocally dismiss the experiences of people who claimed they saw/interacted with UFOs or experienced NDE with/without OBE!

If you had said YES!

YES meaning that:
You WOULD unequivocally dismiss the experiences of people who claimed they saw/interacted with UFOs or experienced NDE with/without OBE!


Since your answer was a NO, then your response to WHY ..?
Should give us REASONS why you WON'T unequivocally dismiss the experiences of people who claimed they saw/interacted with UFOs or experienced NDE with/without OBE!
AND
Explain Why you took such a position when But you don't have ANY compelling EVIDENCES?

1. Did you give me REASONS why you WON'T unequivocally dismiss the experiences of people who claimed they saw/interacted with UFOs or experienced NDE with/without OBE!?


2. Did you explain WHY you took the position THAT you WON'T unequivocally dismiss the experiences of people who claimed they saw/interacted with UFOs or experienced NDE with/without OBE when you don't have ANY compelling EVIDENCES?




I believe this is now explicitly clear!

TenQ:

But that's not the issue.

On what basis did you choose a NO rather than a YES.? As according to you, Both of them have no evidence to show!

jaephoenix:

You really have comprehension issues

jaephoenix:

Can you tell me the specific spiritual experience that is universal among spiritual people? Enumerate them. Thank you.
We'll talk about spiritual living, but answer this one first

Rosemaiden:

What for? To what benefit?

jaephoenix:

Whoa. What a life of jollification you must be living
But sorry to burst your bubble
1. The creation story is filled with loopholes
2. There is no evidence Moses ever existed outside the Bible. He's a mythical figure
3. Which prophesies have been fulfilled specifically?
4. The rest of the posts are delusions of grandeur

LordReed:


Something is wrong with your head.

jaephoenix:

We're debating, remember? You compare your facts against mine

TenQ:

LOL!
Dr LordReed, you have no evidence of that as usual. Which medical equipment did you use as I didn't come to your hospital?

It doesn't dawn on you that the same offence you accused Theists of committing is what you've been justifying since yesterday? No physical nor logical evidence (according to you) yet you chose a position of NO!

You should remove the log of tree in your eyes

Good night!

LordReed:



Is there something wrong with you? My no answer was explained over and over again and the reason why a hoax determination cannot be made and yet you are still asking me the same question. Where exactly are you having the trouble comprehending for Andromeda's sake.

I do not dismiss them as hoax because there isn't enough evidence to determine if they are or aren't. If after this statement you ask me the same question I will know you are disturbed in the head.

jaephoenix:

No. There are no evidences.
If you go to court and was accused of murder, does the judge wait til any evidence of your guilt appear before striking off the suit? No. He examines existing data and makes judgment on that. Simples

Rosemaiden:

No. You can't debate spiritual matters with canal people. It's like debating about the moon with a blind man.

jaephoenix:

Exactly what mad people tell sane folks. So I'll gladly pass

Rosemaiden:

Hahaha. You don vex?

Ken4Christ:


Your problem is unbelief.

Like I always tell skeptics like you, Jesus is acknowledged as Lord even by those who rejected him. History revolves around him. Your birthday is lost without him.

You can tell me that there are other dating system but the dating around the birth of Jesus is Supreme.

Unbelief is a straight ticket to hell as contained in the passage below;

Revelation 21:8

But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

jaephoenix:

Nah, dear. I'm used to such deflection comments from christians. Its now amusing

jaephoenix:

Actually the dating system we use is BCE and CE. I don't know what you're talking about.
You see how you dodged all the points I raised and talked about something absolutely inane, then ended it with a completely useless verse. That's the exact pattern christians use when they are clueless about a topic

Ken4Christ:


What is BCE and CE? It's still with reference to Christ. It was just coined out not so that non Christians will be more comfortable with it. It's still the same date as BC and AD.

Jesus is Lord.

LordReed:


BCE - Before Common Era

CE - Common Era

Ir has nothing to do with Jesus.

FxMasterz:


It's originally Christian Era (CE) or Before Christian Era (BCE). Non Christians use the term Common Era only to avoid reference to Christ or Christianity.

LordReed:


Show me where it was recorded that that was what it was before.

FxMasterz:


See image below.

Also note that whether Common Era, Christian Era or BC/AD are listed, they all refer to the same dates - before Christ's birth and after Christ's birth. All are still related to Christ.

LordReed:


I said show me where it was written that it was Christian Era before it was changed to Common Era.

Meanwhile see the screenshot.

FxMasterz:


Did you observe the screenshot I shared with you?

Common Era was chosen as an alternative to Christian Era. This means Christian Era preceded Common Era. It was first used by Johannes Kepler in his book in 1615, and became adopted for wider use by Jewish authors in the 19th century. Truth is that whether Common Era, Christian Era, Anno Domini or Before Christ is used, they all refer to the dates before and after the birth of Christ. A very heavy blow to those who say Christ never existed.

No matter what you choose, those dates still have to do with Christ. The term common era itself is useless except the date of Christ's birth is a Common Era to those who use the term.