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1. You said evil was not created. So I asked you if you think Yahweh didn't create everything in the world
2. This is the Adam and the temptation scenario. How was Adam, a mortal, supposed to defeat an omniscient and omnipresent being like the devil? Please don't deviate
3. You are going out of context. We are talking about Adam failing Yahweh's test. And its not just a regular test, its a world defining test(like you christians want us to believe) and it changed the world. So there's no return after that.

tctrills:

This why I said you would not understand. Religion and science had totally different purposes. But when you claim that you are smarter than others because they have a religion, that statement is not even based in science and it shows your ignorance.
The purpose of religion is not to build cars, it is to discover the ways of God.

What is the purpose of 'discovering the ways of god'?
Lemme rephrase. Why do you pray, fast, go to church etc?

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What is the purpose of 'discovering the ways of god'?
Lemme rephrase. Why do you pray, fast, go to church etc?
You answered your question with your question. Prayer, fasting and worship are our tools in understanding and getting nearer to God. That's how we experience him.

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Maybe you don't understand my question, or your theist brain doesn't wanna think outside its box.
Lemme rephrase… further
WHY DO YOU NEED GOD?

jaephoenix:

Maybe you don't understand my question, or your theist brain doesn't wanna think outside its box.
Lemme rephrase… further
WHY DO YOU NEED GOD?

We need him to get to our full potentials.

tctrills:

We need him to get to our full potentials.

What are your full potentials

jaephoenix:

What are your full potentials

To become like God. To those that believe in him, he gave power to become sons of God.

tctrills:

To become like God. To those that believe in him, he gave power to become sons of God.

You're just going round in circles.
Can you explain concisely what you mean by 'becoming like god' and 'becoming sons of god'?
Explain as if I'm a 6 year old

jaephoenix:

You're just going round in circles.
Can you explain concisely what you mean by 'becoming like god' and 'becoming sons of god'?
Explain as if I'm a 6 year old

Now my 6 year old. Becoming like God means having his power and his knowledge. It means we can do all things. That is what it means to become like God.
Is that 6 year old enough?

tctrills:

Now my 6 year old. Becoming like God means having his power and his knowledge. It means we can do all things. That is what it means to become like God.
Is that 6 year old enough?

Ok, my elder bro.
Now here's the question sir.
The attributes of a god includes omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, omnibenevolent etc. So you pray so you'll have all these powers?

jaephoenix:

Ok, my elder bro.
Now here's the question sir.
The attributes of a god includes omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, omnibenevolent etc. So you pray so you'll have all these powers?

Is God omnipresent? And yes, the entire purpose of religion and worship is for him to direct our lives and path and ultimately becoming like him.

tctrills:

Is God omnipresent? And yes, the entire purpose of religion and worship is for him to direct our lives and path and ultimately becoming like him.

1. Are you saying Yahweh isn't omnipresent? Yes or no
2. You're speaking from both sides of your mouth. You say your aim of seeking any god is to be omnipotent, omnipresent and omnibenevolent. In the same breath, you said its for direction.
Please be more coherent

jaephoenix:

1. Are you saying Yahweh isn't omnipresent? Yes or no
2. You're speaking from both sides of your mouth. You say your aim of seeking any god is to be omnipotent, omnipresent and omnibenevolent. In the same breath, you said its for direction.
Please be more coherent

God is not omnipresent. That what I am saying. How can I be more clear