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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:52pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
tctrills: Category C has been judged already but A & B will survive into Paradise where Jesus will rule for a thousand years. A limited number will be taken to heaven to rule with Christ this ones are saved completely but billions will live on planet earth during Christ's reign. It's after Christ's reign that they will be tested to prove faithful to all the things they've learned during Christ's reign that's why John said second death could still catch up with many who live on planet earth! Revelations 20:5-6 |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 5:31pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
Janosky:Oga, sometimes you speak as if you never went to school. The climate has never been static. There has always been climate change. In fact the Noah event is a climate change. Its one of the greatest climate change in the history of earth. Now I guess you are trying to say that floods are caused by human pollution of the climate but there has always been floods even before the current global warming. Are you saying that JW members were immuned from pre global warming climate change? |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 5:41pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Guess work religion. You claim the willfully practice after knowing God's words pls proof with scripture |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 5:45pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:So you want us to believe in your category doctrine and not the bible that teaches that all would resurrect right? 1 Like |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:47pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
tctrills: Our God doesn't kill without a warning so all our great grandfathers and great grandmothers who worshiped idols but lived as prisoners of conscience will be remembered {Romans 2:14-15} it's whatever they choose to become after the opportunity to meet JWs in Paradise preaching and teaching in their neighbourhood that will determine their final judgement! Revelations 20:13 Just humble yourself and learn! tctrills:Prove you understand the Bible by explaining what those verses i quoted means! 1 Like |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 7:23pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:First, I am ready to explain any verse you quoted so go ahead and quote. Actually most deaths are without warning. So explain what you mean by God does not kill without a warning. Remember you claim that all death is as a result of sin. Your grandma would be remembered? What do you even mean? Explain? They would have to be resurrected before they meet JW in paradise. This guesswork religion only gets funnier. Please provide scripture to prove these tales |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by bobestman(m): 7:23pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
@Maximus i pity your soul. It is obvious that what you teach are what your cultist organisation has programmed into your brain. This is why i warn ppl against religion. Many things they teach are doctrines of men not God. They tie you down with false teaching and you will be fighting for them like zombies. I am not religious, neither am i a churchgoer. I am spiritual! Hope you know that what i said is a reference not my words. But you said its not necessary. How jw interpreted it for you is what is important. I told you what God and his son said about babies but you ignored it and sticked to how jws taught you. May God save your soul. Now i ask again, what is sin? It is the transgression of the law. What is the law? It is the do's and don't given to moses in mount sinai. Now can children do the do's and don'ts as stated in the law? NO. It means babies are innocent. May God save your soul. I don try my best 1 Like |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:59pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
tctrills: Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I'm not teaching you again since you want to explain. Oya start with Psalms 9:17 1 Like |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:13pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
bobestman: Next time Bible believers are talking unbelievers like you ought to keep quiet. You've admitted you don't believe the entire book so there's no need commenting because we believe the Bible from cover to cover that's why we can correlate what is written in all the 31,200 verses of 1189 chapters of our book. So go and find your type that will cherry pick verses we know everything as the word of our God that must be fully understood for the benefit of all it's adherents {Isaiah 48:17-18} as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4 1 Like
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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 8:24pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
bobestman: I have one question for Mr Spiritual: Which babies of Evildoers did your own God save when your God destroyed the evildoers with the Flood @ Genesis7:21-23? |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 8:30pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
tctrills: No be today you start. DSpeaker said that much about you. There is no cure for your werey on this forum..
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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by oteneaaron(m): 9:15pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
Lol It is so funny seeing the JW's on this thread trying so hard to defend their doctrine. One of them said I posted an "edited" video - but he couldn't post the "full video" to counter me. Its not surprising though, this is what negative indoctrination from a destructive religious organization does to you. It makes you defend things that don't make sense to a rational critical thinking mind. It is quite unfortunate if you ask me. 1 Like |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 9:29pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
Janosky:I love the way you quote this guy like he is your bible. I might have be a bit sad if it were someone credible you quoted. The Tag team of two strange bedfellows 3 Likes |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by bobestman(m): 9:30pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
Janosky:you are too small. Go and break the chains your satanic organisation used to bound your brain. 1 Like |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 9:37pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. Let me explain it with similar scriptures John 5.29 ... and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. Luke 13:28 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. So God is telling us the faith of any individual or nation that forgets him. |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by bobestman(m): 9:39pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:I can't be arguing with a dimwit who is brainwashed with his organisation's doctrine. May God save your soul 1 Like |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by oteneaaron(m): 9:43pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
bobestman: He can't break those chains because he still hasn't realized that he is a captive of a concept. These same people have defended members of their organization who have been arrested for raping innocent children. Fun fact - pedophilia is a pandemic in their religious organization. These same people have defended their religious organization for accepting grants from a Gambling Authority in Norway, even after the same organization had declared gambling to be a sin and a sign of greed. I still shudder when I look back and realize that some years ago, I used to think exactly like these people. 3 Likes |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by bobestman(m): 10:08pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
oteneaaron:They are suffering from dunning-kruger effect |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 10:53pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
Janosky: The only differences between you are the guy quoted is that you attend difference churches and have difference beliefs but you have similar personalities and level of intelligence. And your credibility or lack of is about the same. In another world you could have been twins. If the guy was JW, he would have been you. 1 Like |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:47am On Apr 11, 2023 |
tctrills: "The wicked shall retreat to the grave (hell) and all the nations that forget God" So if you don't know the meaning of the old English (Hell) i have simplified it for you now go ahead and explain! |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:50am On Apr 11, 2023 |
bobestman: If you're not brainwashed oya explain why the God of Abraham destroyed millions of babies in Noah's days nah! Abraham said it's unthinkable for God to kill the righteous along with the wicked {Genesis 18:25} Jesus said the same thing will still repeat itself {Luke 17:26-17} so if babies aren't God's enemies as the man in the video said why didn't God separate the babies so that they're not destroyed along with their evil parents? |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:56am On Apr 11, 2023 |
bobestman: Why not agree with your friend on the God to be worshiped if the both of you are sane? He doesn't believe in the God of Abraham and he doesn't even believe in the existence of any god apart from himself you claim you believe in the God of Abraham there's no agreement in what you two think about the true God. So first agree before thinking of how to win JWs over to your line of thought nah!
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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:00am On Apr 11, 2023 |
oteneaaron: That's what Jesus turned anyone who believes in him: a captive of a concept! “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake day after day and keep following me." Luke 9:23 So we are glad to be slaves to the concept of Christ! |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:05am On Apr 11, 2023 |
Thought provoking question! Janosky: bobestman:You simply lack critical thinking skills so you're not intelligent enough to answer the question! Simple answer: all babies are God's enemies that's why He destroyed them along with their evil parents! |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:25am On Apr 11, 2023 |
oteneaaron: On the contrary Sir! Many who aren't members of JW organization have stepped forward and agreed with Stephen Leth on the topic. Shame on you! 1 Like
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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 7:47am On Apr 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Hell has several meanings. Do you want to use the dictionary? |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:56am On Apr 11, 2023 |
tctrills: Check an encyclopedia not the opinion people later circulated. The original meaning of Hell according to God's word is grave that's why all servants of God in the Bible (including Jesus) are said to be in hell at death {Act 2:31; Job 14:13} but since the religionists have a contrary opinion their opinion was later added to dictionaries. So check what the Bible said is the original meaning of hell not what churchgoers think! 1 Like |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 8:00am On Apr 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Please quote the encyclopedia and link to it. |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07am On Apr 11, 2023 |
tctrills: Webster agrees that the Old English origin of the word means cover. This word had nothing to do with a place of punishment or eternal torment. Those connotations came much later, just in time, we might say, to be corrupted by organized religion into its present form. Google (What is the ORIGIN of the English word Hell) 1 Like |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 8:20am On Apr 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:I have taken the pain to give you all these verses from the bible. Hope these help answer your question. In the bible, Jesus Christ used Hell to describe a place of torment in Luke 16.33. In Revelation 20:14, Death and Hell are to separate elements. Not the same thing Matthew 25.46 Talks about the wicked going into eternal punishment where there shall be weeping. Not death. Jude 1.7 speaks of eternal 🔥fire Revelations 20.10 And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” Mark 9.47 47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. Mark 9:43 And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire Matthew 5:22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire Daniel 12:2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Matthew 24:51 And will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 8:21am On Apr 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Please read my last post to see how the bible describes hell ok. I quoted more than 10 verses for you. |
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:37am On Apr 11, 2023 |
tctrills: Let us first conclude on the original meaning of the English word "Hell" before going into the works of mistranslation by those who have translated what Jesus said in Hebrew to English! |
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