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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by bobestman(m): 10:53pm On Apr 08, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. How is this delusion of yours any different from that the Christians and other religious nutjobs broadcast every day and night out there? undecided
the truth is very clear to the wise. The truth will first come to make a statement before ppl will get it. The last message is a warning to all to know the true God. If you all know it their will be no need for ALL on earth to hear or witness it before judgement - Rev 14:6. If you all know it God will not need to warn all on earth before his judgement. Many of you in religion will decieved by the devil - rev 12:9. It is very clear with references. You are the deluded one
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Kobojunkie: 11:15pm On Apr 08, 2023
bobestman:
■ the truth is very clear to the wise. The truth will first come to make a statement before ppl will get it. The last message is a warning to all to know the true God. If you all know it their will be no need for ALL on earth to hear or witness it before judgement -
■ Rev 14:6. If you all know it God will not need to warn all on earth before his judgement.
■ Many of you in religion will decieved by the devil - rev 12:9. It is very clear with references. You are the deluded one
1. Obviously, your truth is known by pretty much the Christians and every other religious sect out there and they too boast of getting their version of what sounds like the same truth from their own true god, so why have you been lying all this while only a few can know it? undecided

2. Seriously, I believe comprehension seems to be your issue here. The eternal Good News was delivered by Jesus Christ to His followers almost 2000 years ago, and God sent His 144,000 out with the News into the world —every tribe, every language, and every nation — about 2000 years ago. undecided
6 Then I saw another angel flying high in the air. The angel had the eternal Good News to announce to the people living on earth—to every nation, tribe, language, and race of people.
7 The angel said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him praise. The time has come for God to judge all people. Worship God. He made the heavens, the earth, the sea, and the springs of water.”
8 Then the second angel followed the first angel and said, “She is destroyed! The great city of Babylon is destroyed! She made all the nations drink the wine of her sexual sin and of God’s anger.”
9 A third angel followed the first two angels. This third angel said in a loud voice, “God will punish all those who worship the beast and the beast’s idol and agree to have the beast’s mark on their forehead or on their hand.
10 They will drink the wine of God’s anger. This wine is prepared with all its strength in the cup of God’s anger. They will be tortured with burning sulfur before the holy angels and the Lamb.
11 And the smoke from their burning pain will rise forever and ever. There will be no rest, day or night, for those who worship the beast and its idol or who wear the mark of its name.”
12 This means that God’s holy people must be patient. They must obey God’s commands and keep their faith in Jesus.
13 Then I heard a voice from heaven. It said, “Write this: From now on there are great blessings for those who belong to the Lord when they die.” The Spirit says, “Yes, that is true. They will rest from their hard work. What they have done will stay with them.” - Revelations 14 vs 6 - 13
The great Babylon — Jerusalem— was judged and destroyed almost 2000 years as Jesus Christ predicted it would be in His Gospel. So, again, I am not sure why you claim to have truth yet your own version seems to ring the same as that of the religious establishments even as you continue to deny not being part of them. undecided

3. If you paid close attention to what is written in Revelations 12, you would note that what is written before verse 10 are things that take place before the arrival of the Messiah — events that took place prior to His arrival almost 2000 years ago.
5 The woman gave birth to a son, who would rule all the nations with an iron rod. And her child was taken up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman ran away into the desert to a place that God had prepared for her. There she would be taken care of for 1260 days.
7 Then there was a war in heaven. Michael[a] and his angels fought against the dragon. The dragon and its angels fought back,
8 but they were not strong enough. The dragon and its angels lost their place in heaven.
9 It was thrown down out of heaven. (This giant dragon is that old snake, the one called the devil or Satan, who leads the whole world into the wrong way.) The dragon and its angels were thrown to the earth.
10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say, “The victory and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Messiah have now come. These things have come, because the accuser of our brothers and sisters has been thrown out. He is the one who accused them day and night before our God.
11 They defeated him by the blood sacrifice of the Lamb and by the message of God that they told people. They did not love their lives too much. They were not afraid of death.
12 So rejoice, you heavens and all who live there! But it will be terrible for the earth and sea, because the devil has gone down to you. He is filled with anger. He knows he doesn’t have much time.” - Revelations 12 vs 5 - 12
That you instead continue, almost 2000 years later, to believe these events are off in the future, clearly shows your confusion stems from not even knowing the Truth of God as is clearly written in the passages you continue to quote from. undecided
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by bobestman(m): 11:43pm On Apr 08, 2023
Kobojunkie i pity your soul cos you have stucked your brain with errors. But continue. We are in the age the real showdown will begin. Wait for it. The many lies of your 2000yrs old will be glaring to the world. All nations will know the truth and seek the right path. Your religions, many of you will destroy it when you know the truth. Enjoy your delusion why it lasts
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by bobestman(m): 11:46pm On Apr 08, 2023
bobestman:
Kobojunkie i pity your soul cos you have stucked your brain with errors. But continue. We are in the age the real showdown will begin. Wait for it. The many lies of your 2000yrs old will be glaring to the world. All nations will know the truth and seek the right path. Your religions, many of you will destroy it when you know the truth. You believe in errors but i know truth. Enjoy your delusion why it lasts.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Kobojunkie: 11:48pm On Apr 08, 2023
bobestman:
■ i pity your soul cos you have stucked your brain with errors. But continue.
■ We are in the age the real showdown will begin. Wait for it.
■ The many lies of your 2000yrs old will be glaring to the world. All nations will know the truth and seek the right path. Your religions, many of you will destroy it when you know the truth. Enjoy your delusion why it lasts
1. You essentially claim you do not subscribe to the religious views out there yet you regurgitate many of their same religious doctrines, yet you think I am the one whose brain is stuck with errors? undecided

2. The religious folks have been making some of the very same claims for hundreds of years now, so you are in good company with them, I just don't understand why in the sea of similar tales, you want us to believe you are different? grin

3. Well, the fact that what is clearly indicated in scripture somehow eludes you even 2000 years old simply means that, much like the religious folks out there, you don't care much for what is in fact written as your ideas are also clearly born of the many of the same religious doctrines and traditions — lies — they hold to. Why you think your brand of delusions are better than theirs continue to elude me. undecided
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:05am On Apr 09, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Amalekites dealt treasonously with Israelites so they deserve to die!
Can I see the bible verse where they did that?
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by bobestman(m): 10:29am On Apr 09, 2023
@kobojunkie your negative energy draw spiritual ppl back. Your bible is the history of the hebrews told by their enemies who destroyed and scattered them. Your enemies can never tell you the truth. The truth can only come from the real ppl -isaiah 44:7. I know your sources and what is their before them. So all you know are half truth. Go and rest kobo d junkie
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Kobojunkie: 10:35am On Apr 09, 2023
bobestman:
■ your negative energy draw spiritual ppl back. Your bible is the history of the hebrews told by their enemies who destroyed and scattered them. Your enemies can never tell you the truth. The truth can only come from the real ppl -isaiah 44:7. I know your sources and what is their before them. So all you know are half truth. Go and rest kobo d junkie
1. Your confusion alone is more than enough energy to keep you engrossed in your spiritual bullsheet for more than one lifetime. undecided
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by bobestman(m): 11:12am On Apr 09, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. Your confusion alone is more than enough energy to keep you engrossed in your spiritual bullsheet for more than one lifetime. undecided
i know your sources and mine is superior. You will understand one day. You are just ignorant like the crap you downloaded online to impress on nairaland
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Kobojunkie: 11:13am On Apr 09, 2023
bobestman:
■ i know your sources and mine is superior. You will understand one day. You are just ignorant like the crap you downloaded online to impress on nairaland
1. My source? I am curious. What source? Downloaded from where? undecided
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:52pm On Apr 09, 2023
bobestman:
if you read all the messiah said about babies you will surely know his stand. They are many and very clear. If you doubt the messiah what of God? Is God also wrong? You use logic to explain things you don't know. When your mumu go do? You are supposed to be hiding in shame. If the messiah is wrong according to you what of God?

God's word says "all (no matter your age) have sinned and fallen short of God's glory" Romans 3:23 compare to Psalms 51:5

Simple as ABC! smiley
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:55pm On Apr 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Can I see the bible verse where they did that?
You dey doubt wetin a JW talk about our book?
Exodus 17:8 smiley
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by bobestman(m): 1:32pm On Apr 09, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


God's word says "all (no matter your age) have sinned and fallen short of God's glory" Romans 3:23 compare to Psalms 51:5

Simple as ABC! smiley
you don run to another reference again. Shameless fool. God said with his mouth that he made them priest or prophet from the womb. Did God lie? Answer or keep shut forever

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 2:11pm On Apr 09, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


God's word says "all (no matter your age) have sinned and fallen short of God's glory" Romans 3:23 compare to Psalms 51:5

Simple as ABC! smiley
Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
They are not his enemies but his heritage and his gifts.
The fruit of the womb is a blessing not a curse.
Children inherit the kingdom of Heaven.

Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”

Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Sometimes you guys need to start believing Christ and stop believing the doctrines of men

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:46pm On Apr 09, 2023
bobestman:
you don run to another reference again. Shameless fool. God said with his mouth that he made them priest or prophet from the womb. Did God lie? Answer or keep shut forever

So are you saying they're not SINNERS who deserves to die according to Romans 6:23?

If they're not sinners then why do they grow old, get sick and die? smiley

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:48pm On Apr 09, 2023
tctrills:

Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
They are not his enemies but his heritage and his gifts.
The fruit of the womb is a blessing not a curse.
Children inherit the kingdom of Heaven.

Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”

Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Sometimes you guys need to start believing Christ and stop believing the doctrines of men

So why destroy them in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek if they're not part of God's enemies? smiley
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 7:34pm On Apr 09, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


So why destroy them in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek if they're not part of God's enemies? smiley
You keep asking the wrong questions. Even Abraham a friend of God died. Every, good or evil must meet death at some time or the other.

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 11:41pm On Apr 09, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


So why destroy them in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek if they're not part of God's enemies? smiley
Also, note, God destroyed the people in Noah's days and Sodom and Gomorrah via natural disasters. So are you saying that natural disasters only destroys evil people? Are JW members immuned to natural disasters?
Please stop using these excuses. God does not hate children. Read the verses I gave you and stop depending on the false teachings of men like yourself. Or at least ask your leaders questions. Don't just swallow everything they say.

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 11:59pm On Apr 09, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH didn't create Satan rather it was the angel who choose to be a resister and slanderer. So they chose their own path He is not to blame for that! Deuteronomy 32:5 smiley

Hold up! So who created Satan? grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 12:00am On Apr 10, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


And what harm have i or any JW across the globe caused you?
Ọmọ you're the one disturbing your head with what never affected your daily bread! cheesy
Hating on innocent babies is enough harm for me

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 12:01am On Apr 10, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa. They're His enemies as long as they're not doing His will that's why JWs are in their neighbourhood to settle the grudge between them and God.
As many as they're that accepted his decrees they will surely become not only His friends but children! John 1:11-12 wink
Ummmm… How exactly does a baby do yahweh's will? undecided

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 12:01am On Apr 10, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Amalekites dealt treasonously with Israelites so they deserve to die!
How?
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 12:03am On Apr 10, 2023
LordReed:


Interesting. Why would something prone to serious error be chosen as the means to disseminate what you regard as a life altering message?
You choose to reply Kobo? That nigga is loonier than DTruthSpeaker and Max put together
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 12:04am On Apr 10, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

All humans are precious to God that's why He sent His only begotten Son to die for our sin! John 3:16
So whether you're a day old or 100 years of age the mercies of God covers you as long as the time of His vengeance hasn't come this has nothing to do with your age that's why Jesus said:

so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous. Matthew 5:45

So from God's standpoint all humans old or young are innocent because we're all suffering for the error of Adam without being partakers of his blunder. Romans 5:12

Jesus mentioned children (toddlers) as fine examples for anyone who wants to enter God's Kingdom because there is no class or racism among them, they relate naturally as humans that's what he wants us to imitate in them but at the same time he warned about another trait of children that we need to avoid:

They only respond to food and sweet drinks whether there is wailing or rejoicing children don't bother as long as they're able to get their mates and start playing! Luke 7:31-32

So children has their good and bad side don't just conclude that they will be saved because if we're to go by your assertion then babies shouldn't have been destroyed in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek! wink
So you mean atheists get to enjoy good health and prosperity without even uttering a word of prayer? grin

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:45am On Apr 10, 2023
Death is for sinners as in God's enemies that's what Paul meant when he said:
"All have sinned and fallen short of God's glory" Romans 3:23

So if God decided to make friends with Adam's descendants it's because we found ourselves in a situation where we are helpless {Psalms 49:7-9} but the fact remains that all of us are sinners: sentenced to death right from the day we were conceived in our mother's womb! Psalms 51:5 compare to Romans 6:23 smiley

tctrills:

You keep asking the wrong questions. Even Abraham a friend of God died. Every, good or evil must meet death at some time or the other.

tctrills:

Also, note, God destroyed the people in Noah's days and Sodom and Gomorrah via natural disasters. So are you saying that natural disasters only destroys evil people? Are JW members immuned to natural disasters?
Please stop using these excuses. God does not hate children. Read the verses I gave you and stop depending on the false teachings of men like yourself. Or at least ask your leaders questions. Don't just swallow everything they say.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:47am On Apr 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Hold up! So who created Satan? grin
Were you born and raised an atheist? smiley
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:51am On Apr 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Hating on innocent babies is enough harm for me
There you go: telling you the real condition of babies should make you glad instead of picking offense. Babies do die so you may have wondered why God is not saving them that's what we are telling you that they are as innocent as an older person who also died and if you're thinking of the crime an older person has committed babies aren't guiltless too all have sinned that's why all are growing old, getting sick and dying! Romans 3:23
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:54am On Apr 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Ummmm… How exactly does a baby do yahweh's will? undecided
Babies are sentenced to death already so if they're fortunate to grow up and learn then they can escape that eternal damnation just as Noah was able to teach his own sons and their wives while millions of babies perished outside the Ark! smiley
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:59am On Apr 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

So you mean atheists get to enjoy good health and prosperity without even uttering a word of prayer? grin

You're growing old by the day my friend so if you choose to remain an atheist you have gotten all your share in what God has in store for mankind but the obedient ones will be remembered for another opportunity this time to live forever without getting sick {Isaiah 33:24} growing old {Job 33:25} or dying! Isaiah 25:8

For now JEHOVAH is only feeding His worshipers with needed information about what the future holds as regards what life has to offer now everyone enjoys it! Matthew 5:45 smiley
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:05am On Apr 10, 2023
Ọmọ i have answered this question but you're still asking after i've supplied the answer! smiley

jaephoenix:

Can I see the bible verse where they did that?

MaxInDHouse:

You dey doubt wetin a JW talk about our book?
Exodus 17:8 smiley

jaephoenix:

How?
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:17am On Apr 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

You choose to reply Kobo? That nigga is loonier than DTruthSpeaker and Max put together

Leave all of them and face only a JW like me they're just learning the same way as you're doing right now!

The OP raised a good topic for many like you to gain something so don't worry about those none JWs because their pastors won't tell them this truth you're hearing.

The major issue here is that most of you only think of adults as evildoers and concluded that when it comes to capital punishment only the adults supposed to be executed because you do attribute all the wicked acts committed on this planet to adults only but that's not the way God view matters {Isaiah 55:8-9} humans like me and you see matters from the surface only while God sees from the root cause.

If Adam didn't lay the foundation for rebellion most of us won't follow the evil path and if any decides to choose wickedness God will allow such a person to live for just a hundred years and die as a youth without growing old note that even at the age of 100 God views such a person as a baby {Isaiah 65:20} WHY? Because it will take us at least 1,000 years before we can know what life truly means not just 70, 80 or 100 years! smiley
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by LordReed(m): 5:41am On Apr 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

You choose to reply Kobo? That nigga is loonier than DTruthSpeaker and Max put together

At least Kobojunkie is more interesting than those 2. I'd much rather have a conversation with Kobojunkie, the ideas Kobo expresses are better thought out than those of those other 2.

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