MaxInDHouse:
Many babies are born deaf and dumb, blind, cripple, sickle cell, abnormal, i have seen a child born without nose only for this baby to die few minutes after it's birth and many are still dying.

So why did God allowed all these to happen to innocent babies if they're not His enemies?

This is what Abraham the father of all those having faith said about the one and only true God:

"It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right?” Genesis 18:25

So considering what has happened to millions of babies in history and what Abraham said are babies God's friends or enemies? Psalms 51:5

Abeg warn this OP make he no dey tamper with JWs o because i will prove to him that all his friends and himself knew nothing about the true God!

Being yahweh's enemy as a baby, and a Muslim one at that, why weren't you destroyed? You haven't answered this?

Fireoflife:

For me that's a good thing

Cool. You can be a scriptwriter with your skills. Why waste it?

MaxInDHouse:


Ears you have but you can't hear, eyes you have but you can't see.
If JWs are preaching zealously and teaching industriously in all our neighbourhood how to settle the grudge people have against the true God then your brains aren't working fine!

Yeah, preaching to us that babies(which they once were) are yahweh's enemies.
By the way Max, are these verses in your Bible…

Mark 9:36
Anyone who welcomes a little child like this on my behalf welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes not only me but also my Father who sent me."


Psalms 139:13-16
13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.

Matthew 18:9-10
9 And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
10 “See that you do not despise one of these babies. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven


Mark 10:15-16
15 Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”
16 And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them


Psalms 127:3-5
3 Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him

Is that how Yahweh treats his sworn enemies? By cuddling them and telling you to be like them?

jaephoenix:

Show me a non fanatic JW and I'll show you a flying whale

Luckily there are. They are called PIMO - Physically In Mentally Out. PIMOs know its bullshit but can't leave for some reason or the other so keep identifying as JW.

LordReed:


Luckily there are. They are called PIMO - Physically In Mentally Out. PIMOs know its bullshit but can't leave for some reason or the other so keep identifying as JW.

Well, they could have just opted out. Or maybe they are enjoying something like physical security, business connections, financial gains

MaxInDHouse:


All have sinned and fallen short of God's glory {Romans 3:23} so right from a fetus in it's mother's womb the baby is God's enemy {Psalms 51:5} the reason Jesus told his disciples to become babies is the way children behaves:
They are willing to learn humbly.
They're not separated by racism.
They don't think of class.
They humbly follow orders even from their mates who is wiser.

These attributes Jesus wants his disciples to imitate from little children.

There are also traits Jesus condemned about little children:
They don't know anything more than food and drinks so whether there is merriment or mourning children plays as long as they finds their mates! Luke 7:31-32

So learn to distinguish between the attributes of babies that Jesus commends and that which he condemned!

What the Bleep has Luke 7:31-32 got to do with your post?

jaephoenix:

Well, they could have just opted out. Or maybe they are enjoying something like physical security, business connections, financial gains

Or they are children who cannot yet be self sufficient or maybe they are young adults still in school and still enjoying support of their family or just people unable to function without familial support yet. There are valid reasons why PIMOs are in the situation they are in.

jaephoenix:

Yahweh had no business with a Muslim baby yet he killed many ignorant babies? Really?

A ruler only kills when rebellion is getting out of hand so Jehovah won't just kill until His plans are disrupted by the rebellious.

jaephoenix:

Uhhhm
What happened to converting the people of Amalek and Jericho? Like he did with Nineveh?

The people of Jericho and Amalek directly challenged His authority after hearing about His mightiness. Note that Ninevites repented simply because they heard not Jehovah but a messenger from Him. Do you think the people of Jericho and Amalek will listen or kill His messenger? Remember that the Amalekites and Jericho wanted to harm His people!

jaephoenix:

So why didn't Yahweh murder you as a murderously devilish Muslim baby, whose parents didn't care about JWs, and probably drove them away when they came preaching?

His plans hasn't reached their turn so they're free to continue existing until the time comes when His patience runs out.
So until then whether you are ready to do His will or not you can continue existing!

@kobojunkie so you know all these things written about isreal but you allowed yourself to be brainwashed by christianity. They only believe he is coming for them. They even call themselves spiritual isreal and many lies. Let me focus on the 2 issues you have with me. Ancient scripture was written by the hebrews and only them have the true interpretations. Bible was plagiarised from ancient scripts. When isreal was raided they stole some scripts. Know that those scripts were coded so difficult to interpret. They came with their own interpretations in a book called bible. The errors are glaring. Contradictions, allegories etc where did they mention the hebrews of africa or any of their lands. The true hebrew script has no corruption. Yahweh or jehovah are fabrications of those who interpreted with their knowledge. Only the gullible will fall for that. Even the hebrews of africa have their knowledge of who God is which is far better. They are corruptions not God's name. It would be very hard for you to grab

jaephoenix:

Did it occur to you that it was the king that released the virus itself, knowing initially that some of his subject would succumb to it, but he didn't care.
What should we do to that king? Worship him more?

The virus is just an illustration so just as a king will never release a virus to kill his subjects the true God never release death to strike Adam and Eve rather He warned them of the consequences!

@Maximus the jw bono. The question is what is the sin of those children that made them God's enemies? You are just twisting into other things. I explained but you don't understand. Karma is in your bible. "You will reap what you sow", "an eye for an eye", "he that kill by the sword shall die by the sword". Are all karma. As you do so shall it be done to you in this life or next. So God is a God of justice. He avenges evil no matter how long it takes. You are just rambling and ranting cos you don't understand me. Things i say is glaring to the wise not fools.

jaephoenix:

Show me a non fanatic JW and I'll show you a flying whale

Fanatics are people that finds it really hard to look away from what others believe.
So you guys are the real fanatics here!

jaephoenix:

That's not the point here, stop grasping as straws. If there's no babies, you won't exist

Did i tell you God didn't want babies to exist?

bobestman:

Karma is in your bible. "You will reap what you sow", "an eye for an eye", "he that kill by the sword shall die by the sword"

I don't know how this answers the question i asked you!

God destroyed innocent babies in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek.
Now go back to the quotations and explain what those little babies did so that they:
©reaped what they sow.
©got killed eye for eye.
©how they killed by the sword so that they also died by the sword.

bobestman:
■ so you know all these things written about isreal but you allowed yourself to be brainwashed by christianity. They only believe he is coming for them. They even call themselves spiritual isreal and many lies.
■ Let me focus on the 2 issues you have with me. Ancient scripture was written by the hebrews and only them have the true interpretations. Bible was plagiarised from ancient scripts. When isreal was raided they stole some scripts. Know that those scripts were coded so difficult to interpret. They came with their own interpretations in a book called bible.
■ The errors are glaring. Contradictions, allegories etc where did they mention the hebrews of africa or any of their lands. The true hebrew script has no corruption. Yahweh or jehovah are fabrications of those who interpreted with their knowledge. Only the gullible will fall for that. Even the hebrews of africa have their knowledge of who God is which is far better. They are corruptions not God's name. It would be very hard for you to grab

1. From where I sit, you are no different from those of the religion of Christianity who believe in ideas that are different from that put forward by God. God gave to His people — Israel — Laws/agreements/contracts which He mandated they abide by in other to reap the benefits of a relationship with Him. However, as expected, men chose differently but hide their abomination behind the many mentions of the name of God. In His Old Law God railed against the religious establishment of the time, who taught His people lies using His name — the religion known today as Judaism— the same way Jesus Christ railed against and laid down curses on those who would use His name to spread lies that are against God — the religion of Christianity. So those of you who adopt any of these religions are of the same breed.

2. What you spew has no bearing on what is spoken by God through His prophets. If God wanted perfect writing He would have, with His own hands, written scripture Himself in a perfect language. But God didn't do that and this was for good reason. Scripture was written by human hands in human language and passed through human hands from one human generation to another intended to be read and comprehended by human minds in various human languages— as a result of the human factors involved, the errors and contradictions are of design. Scripture was never intended by God to be some sort of epitome of perfection. So, I am not certain what you think you achieve by telling these useless tales.

3. Hebrews of Africa? Are you high? Hebrews were those who inhabited the Land of the Hebrew aka the Land of Canaan at the time. So how did the Land of Canaan take enter Africa, abeg? True Hebrew script has no corruption? It is perfect? Do you mean like they say the Quran is perfect?... ...That alone means it has absolutely nothing to do with the God of Israel who instead used men and sent men to speak to other men in the language of men then. Your obsession with consonants and vowels, both constructs of human language, and leap to conclude that they matter where God is concerned indicates you are just a religious rambler with no real relationship with the God of Isreal.

When talking about reasonableness i often laugh at the way most people use their brains!

The president of America lives in America and for sure he knows those who are his enemies right there in his own country but does that mean he will always kill them?
Well experience shows that it's only when they take actions to sabotage his government and cause his peaceful and obedient subjects harm that he will swing into action.
That's when an observer could sense that this are his enemies.
I wonder how this is difficult for normal humans to grasp but i can understand after all atheists doesn't want to hear anything having to do with a supreme being!

jaephoenix:

Yeah, preaching to us that babies(which they once were) are yahweh's enemies.
By the way Max, are these verses in your Bible…
Mark 9:36
Anyone who welcomes a little child like this on my behalf welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes not only me but also my Father who sent me."
Psalms 139:13-16
13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.
Matthew 18:9-10
9 And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
10 “See that you do not despise one of these babies. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven
Mark 10:15-16
15 Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”
16 And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them
Psalms 127:3-5
3 Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him
Is that how Yahweh treats his sworn enemies? By cuddling them and telling you to be like them?

When the president of a country discover that his enemies have poisoned the minds of others against him surely his enemies have increased but then how does he treats the gullible ones who joined his enemies?
Well he will arrange for public awareness and many will have the opportunity to voice out the grudges they're holding due to misinformation. But until the case is settled they remain his enemies!

@kobojunkie hahahahaha you are truly and highly ignorant. You make me laugh. This is why i keep telling you that you can never get it. From athiest to christianity and then isreal. You have have read bible and books about isreal and now you are forming woke. Afrika is the land of creation. Many evidence abound even in your bible but you can't get it. I can't waste my time explaining to a blind man. Isreal of 1948 is a creation of men to hide the true identity of the true hebrews. It is a desert. Land of the hebrew flow with milk and honey - abundant natural resources. All nation had been milking them dry but they are still strong. These alone have destroyed all your lies. Isreal was first in africa. There are lands in africa with the names in your bible before it was recreated in !948. Even the so called isreal is in north east africa. Still africa. Kobo you are a kid who only know the stories of yesterday. I can't be wasting my time with a brainwashed, ignorant fool

bobestman:
■ hahahahaha you are truly and highly ignorant. You make me laugh. This is why i keep telling you that you can never get it. From athiest to christianity and then isreal. You have have read bible and books about isreal and now you are forming woke.
■ Afrika is the land of creation. Many evidence abound even in your bible but you can't get it. I can't waste my time explaining to a blind man. Isreal of 1948 is a creation of men to hide the true identity of the true hebrews. It is a desert. Land of the hebrew flow with milk and honey - abundant natural resources. All nation had been milking them dry but they are still strong. These alone have destroyed all your lies. Isreal was first in africa. There are lands in africa with the names in your bible before it was recreated in !948. Even the so called isreal is in north east africa. Still africa.
■ Kobo you are a kid who only know the stories of yesterday. I can't be wasting my time with a brainwashed, ignorant fool

1. Last I checked, the woke culture of the World does not embrace the God of Israel in any way or form. So, are you really this desperate or something?

2. It really doesn't matter that
■ scientists claim that Africa is the cradle of creation since the concern here is with the Land of the Hebrews aka the Land of Canaan which is historically established as a land that is not in Africa at all
■ Africa continues to be pillaged to this day thanks to the people as Africa has nothing to do with this here
■ the current nation of Israel(of 1948) was created by men

All these are meaningless distractions by your person. We are speaking here instead of the Land of Canaan, the land that was promised by the God of Israel to the people of Israel. That land has no connection with Africa, so I am not certain why you think at this point in the conversation that dragging the many disconnected mentions of Africa into this will change the conversation.

3. The funny thing here is this kid seems to know the stories of yesterday upon which today's stories are founded better than you do pointing to the fact that the brainwashed, ignorant one here happens to be your person. You need to deliver yourself from these delusions you continue to cling to for your own mental health's sake.

MaxInDHouse:

I don't know how this answers the question i asked you!

God destroyed innocent babies in Noah's days, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek.
Now go back to the quotations and explain what those little babies did so that they:
©reaped what they sow.
©got killed eye for eye.
©how they killed by the sword so that they also died by the sword.

You are only answering question with questions hiding from your own question. I never condemn any story. I told you some acts are not of the true God and that you need knowledge to get what is and what is not. You turned it to another thing cos i said your jehowah is not the name of the true God but just corruption. Sodom, the flood are end of an age. At the end of every age, there is a trump, warning as a town crier does. And then a sanitation or judgement. The few who remain begin the new world. Whether oldies or babies. Our main issue is that your pasta called babies enemies of God. Devil you are

bobestman:
You are only answering question with questions hiding from your own question. I never condemn any story. I told you some acts are not of the true God and that you need knowledge to get what is and what is not. You turned it to another thing cos i said your jehowah is not the name of the true God but just corruption. Sodom, the flood are end of an age. At the end of every age, there is a trump, warning as a town crier does. And then a sanitation or judgement. The few who remain begin the new world. Whether oldies or babies. Our main issue is that your pasta called babies enemies of God. Devil you are

You're just a FOOL!

According to the book some were spared while many including babies were killed.
So the question is why kill babies when older ones like Noah are saved?
Do you want to tell me that Noah has never done anything wrong unlike those helpless and innocent babies?

The answer keeps staring at your face:
All babies are God's enemies until they're taught to become God's friends that's when He will spare them during His anger the way He did with Noah and Lot.

Simple as ABC.

But if you have a rebuttal go ahead and present it your emotional blackmail won't safe your silly face!

MaxInDHouse:


A ruler only kills when rebellion is getting out of hand so Jehovah won't just kill until His plans are disrupted by the rebellious.

Ummmm… I don't recall the Amalekites or Canaanites revolting or rebelling against Yahweh, before the Israelites showed up and slaughtered them all

MaxInDHouse:

The people of Jericho and Amalek directly challenged His authority after hearing about His mightiness. Note that Ninevites repented simply because they heard not Jehovah but a messenger from Him. Do you think the people of Jericho and Amalek will listen or kill His messenger? Remember that the Amalekites and Jericho wanted to harm His people!

Ummm.
Can you showed me the Bible verses Amalekites, and Jerichoans challenged Yahweh. And please, the Nineveans repented after Jonah preached. Thank You

MaxInDHouse:

His plans hasn't reached their turn so they're free to continue existing until the time comes when His patience runs out.
So until then whether you are ready to do His will or not you can continue existing!

Can you explain the bolded, please

MaxInDHouse:

The virus is just an illustration so just as a king will never release a virus to kill his subjects the true God never release death to strike Adam and Eve rather He warned them of the consequences!

Really?
Who created Satan? Yahweh!
Did he know Satan was gonna be a great deceiver? Yes!
Who gave Satan his omnipotent, omniscient etc powers? Yahweh!
Who created Eden and the tree of knowledge and planted it right in the middle of the garden(not even at the outskirts where it would be out of sight of Adam and Eve) and made it have luscious fruits? Yahweh!
Do you now understand your all loving god wanted Adam fvcked from the get-go?
Here is an analogy. You(yahweh) sent your son(Adam) to school(garden of eden) and paid a bully(Satan) to distract and beat the child, so he'll fail in school? I used the word 'paid' because he Satan is an upgraded being, having those powers handed to him by Yahweh. Whats his target? A puny Adam, a regular mortal with no powers whatsoever

MaxInDHouse:

Fanatics are people that finds it really hard to look away from what others believe.
So you guys are the real fanatics here!

Fanatic is a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause.
Its only you that have such zeal, not i

MaxInDHouse:

Did i tell you God didn't want babies to exist?

… yet he deemed them his enemies, and is intent on murdering all of them(according to you)

MaxInDHouse:
When talking about reasonableness i often laugh at the way most people use their brains!

The president of America lives in America and for sure he knows those who are his enemies right there in his own country but does that mean he will always kill them?
Well experience shows that it's only when they take actions to sabotage his government and cause his peaceful and obedient subjects harm that he will swing into action.
That's when an observer could sense that this are his enemies.
I wonder how this is difficult for normal humans to grasp but i can understand after all atheists doesn't want to hear anything having to do with a supreme being!

You haven't answered my question about the Amalekites?

MaxInDHouse:


When the president of a country discover that his enemies have poisoned the minds of others against him surely his enemies have increased but then how does he treats the gullible ones who joined his enemies?
Well he will arrange for public awareness and many will have the opportunity to voice out the grudges they're holding due to misinformation. But until the case is settled they remain his enemies!

Good. Does this president go about slaughtering his perceived enemies?

jaephoenix:

Ummmm… I don't recall the Amalekites or Canaanites revolting or rebelling against Yahweh, before the Israelites showed up and slaughtered them all

Ọmọ use your brain nah?

The land of Canaan belongs to Abraham and his descendants so when the God of Israelites was dealing with Egyptians the world's most powerful nation back then and the Israelites were released without a military force and marching towards the land of their forefathers what are the Canaanites doing on the land?

Amalekites dealt treasonously with them that's why Jehovah ordered His people to destroy them.

If you don't know now you do!