LordReed:


So when I asked what is a god your response was a god is a god (a deity}?

Is a synonym not synonymous with a definition?

LordReed:

What is a spirit?

A spirit is a living being not made up of matter.

LordReed:

How can you determine what an invisible personality actually is?

Whether good or bad?

Lukuluku69:


Lol

You didn't task my intellect. All you did was just play words.

I can talk to you about Jesus the Nazarene but would you believe my version of him? Would you? Those who choose only FOUR out of possibly HUNDREDS of Records available then were never witnesses to the events they classify some as false and some as good.

So, rest. That is the intellect and not prancing around with copy and paste. The intellectual thing is to be in the middle and not the extreme.

Me, play words!?
What annoys you is that UPFRONT, I state your beliefs and poke holes in your arguments THEN I ask you Questions which is EMBARRASSING for you to answer truthfully.

Do you notice how we are flowing in conversation since the beginning of this thread? It's because you are not on the hot seat. My objective was simply to felicitate with You Muslims today QED!



On the Lecture about Jesus, Please be my guest!

I want to know what you know about Jesus of Nazareth other than ("Jesus was a Muslim who preached the Oneness of Allah and Did many miracles"

Thank you

TenQ:

Me, play words!?
What annoys you is that UPFRONT, I state your beliefs and poke holes in your arguments THEN I ask you Questions which is EMBARRASSING for you to answer truthfully.

Do you notice how we are flowing in conversation since the beginning of this thread? It's because you are not on the hot seat. My objective was simply to felicitate with You Muslims today QED!



On the Lecture about Jesus, Please be my guest!

I want to know what you know about Jesus of Nazareth other than ("Jesus was a Muslim who preached the Oneness of Allah and Did many miracles"

Thank you

Do yourself a favour. Download all available Gospels on the Internet and read.

It is not my job to teach you. I am not a guardian over you.

Read the Apocrypha. The hidden works.

Lukuluku69:


I am afraid you still have issues understanding the thrust in some arguments. Most time, you have a closed mind on things holding on to your already formed narrow albeit wrong opinions!

Who told you that the Canonized Gospels don't have discrepancies? From the Top of my head can you decidedly tell him when the rites of "eating the flesh and drinking Jesus blood was instituted ?

The fact that you guys took it and swallowed it hook, line and sinker doesn't make the Muslims look bad when they questioned such when you referenced it. A Record they hold as fabricated anyways.

Please when was the Lords Super Instituted?

Lukuluku69:


True.

Even though Christ did say looking for Miracles solely to authenticate a bonafide Prophet, for looking to Miracles makes you ADULTEROUS in a sense. ( Fake Prophets can do them too thereby leading people astray).

Prophet Muhammad wrought miracles too.

He was authenticated by All Scriptures of the world. The Scriptures in the hands of the Jews foretold him, the one in the hands of the Nassara foretold him. Same for the Zoroastrian Persians, the Hindu Vedas

Please can you post your strongest examples of verses of the scriptures of the Jews and Christians that authenticate Mohammed.

It is pitiful the ones I've been seeing from your online dawah gangs

Lukuluku69:


You see your ignorance again?

No Muslim will ever tell you a Verse from the Quran is FABRICATED. Non! But, you can wrongly translate them. That is why we leave it in Arabic. Words do change meanings overtime thru the ages.

When we say Fabricated, even though there are strict rules in authenticating Hadiths, we say an Hadith is Fabricated when the chain of Narrators looks dodgy. A man who lived about 50 years after the prophet can't say he HEARD OR SEEN THE PROPHET SAID SUCH AND SUCH without us asking, was he a COMPANION? Was his father a Companion?

Look at Paul, he never met Jesus ALIVE, was never a DISCIPLE, NEVER SAW JESUS yet all what Christianity believe today came from his brains. In Islam, we will throw away ALL his Letters!

Check my post. There's never a point I said some Muslims claim that their Qur'an is a Fabrication.


TWO QUESTIONS
1. If the chain of Reference is broken, are you admitting that such documents is most likely a fraud?

2. If your yardstick is correct, are you willing to stand by it when I use your own standard on your Qur'an?

TenQ:

Please when was the Lords Super Instituted?

Lol

The Synoptic agreed ( Mathew, Mark and Luke) simply because they cribbed from each other.

John own blood drinking episode is quite different.

You want references?

Lukuluku69:


Lol

You didn't task my intellect. All you did was just play words.

I can talk to you about Jesus the Nazarene but would you believe my version of him? Would you? Those who choose only FOUR out of possibly HUNDREDS of Records available then were never witnesses to the events they classify some as false and some as good.

So, rest. That is the intellect and not prancing around with copy and paste. The intellectual thing is to be in the middle and not the extreme.

Please be my guest!

And after your Lecture, I will only ask you ONE question to which I expect a truthful answer!

Is this a deal?

Lukuluku69:


Do yourself a favour. Download all available Gospels on the Internet and read.

It is not my job to teach you. I am not a guardian over you.

Read the Apocrypha. The hidden works.

I challenge you to Lecture me about the Jesus you claimed walked in Nazareth!


You were the one who brought this up, why run away?

Except, it is ANOTHER lie in the making!

TenQ:

Check my post. There's never a point I said some Muslims claim that their Qur'an is a Fabrication.


TWO QUESTIONS
1. If the chain of Reference is broken, are you admitting that such documents is most likely a fraud?

2. If your yardstick is correct, are you willing to stand by it when I use your own standard on your Qur'an?

1. If the chain of reference/s is broken mostly likely it is a Fraud.

If Peter/ Mathew said he heard Jesus said such and such and Paul said he heard Jesus said such and such, I will believe Peter/Mathew because I read that they were disciples. We're with Jesus for Three years but when Paul says I heard Jesus says such and and such, my intellect tells me to ask when? Where? You were never a disciple, or Disciple told you so?

So, when someone who was never a companion, never had a companion as an uncle or father lay claim that he HEARD OR SAW The Prophet says or did? We throw it out!

QED

Lukuluku69:


Lol

The Synoptic agreed ( Mathew, Mark and Luke) simply because they cribbed from each other.

John own blood drinking episode is quite different.

You want references?

I thought you were insinuating that Paul started it!?

Now the gospels are in agreement because they copied each other!?

Oya continue!
I want to hear more?

Lukuluku69:


1. If the chain of reference/s is broken mostly likely it is a Fraud.

If Peter/ Mathew said he heard Jesus said such and such and Paul said he heard Jesus said such and such, I will believe Peter/Mathew because I read that they were disciples. We're with Jesus for Three years but when Paul says I heard Jesus says such and and such, my intellect tells me to ask when? Where? You were never a disciple, or Disciple told you so?

So, when someone who was never a companion, never had a companion as an uncle or father lay claim that he HEARD OR SAW The Prophet says or did? We throw it out!

QED

2. If your yardstick is correct, are you willing to stand by it when I use your own standard on your Qur'an?

TenQ:

Is a synonym not synonymous with a definition?


A spirit is a living being not made up of matter.



Whether good or bad?

No it is not. Another word for something is not a definition of the thing.

I have no experience of living beings not made of matter so I don't what that means. All living beings I know are made of matter. If there are living beings not made of matter how can I know that?

What it is, a god or otherwise.

TenQ:

I challenge you to Lecture me about the Jesus you claimed walked in Nazareth!


You were the one who brought this up, why run away?

Except, it is ANOTHER lie in the making!

LYING for God's Glory is not my thing. My thing is to worship Him sincerely, keep His Eternal Statues and do Good and spread Goodness every where I find myself.

I told you download the Hidden works and edify yourself. My life and Faith doesn't depend on any Convo with you. No prize is to be won, so why RUN AWAY?

Sometimes, you say things that always tempt me to ask how old are you but intelligence sometimes doesn't reside in the numbers.

Get busy with the apocrypha. As you read, make notes, check the plausibility of claims etc

Good Luck.

TenQ:

I thought you were insinuating that Paul started it!?

Now the gospels are in agreement because they copied each other!?

Oya continue!
I want to hear more?

Oga, it is common knowledge that Synoptic cribbed from each other. Lol

LordReed:


You basically said a god is a god that is recognised by people in response to the question what is a god or can you differentiate a deity from a god?

A synonym of deity is God/god!

Lukuluku69:


Oga, it is common knowledge that Synoptic cribbed from each other. Lol

So they are in agreement because they copied from each other?

TenQ:

So they are in agreement because they copied from each other?

Yes nah

Lukuluku69:


LYING for God's Glory is not my thing. My thing is to worship Him sincerely, keep His Eternal Statues and do Good and spread Goodness every where I find myself.

I told you download the Hidden works and edify yourself. My life and Faith doesn't depend on any Convo with you. No prize is to be won, so why RUN AWAY?

Sometimes, you say things that always tempt me to ask how old are you but intelligence sometimes doesn't reside in the numbers.

Get busy with the apocrypha. As you read, make notes, check the plausibility of claims etc

Good Luck.

You suggested it therefore,
I challenge you to Lecture me about the Jesus you claimed walked in Nazareth!

TenQ:

You suggested it therefore,
I challenge you to Lecture me about the Jesus you claimed walked in Nazareth!

Ok.

When time permits, I will share the much I know.

LordReed:


No it is not. Another word for something is not a definition of the thing.

I have no experience of living beings not made of matter so I don't what that means. All living beings I know are made of matter. If there are living beings not made of matter how can I know that?

What it is, a god or otherwise.

Since you don't know, go seek!

How can you know
1. Die
2. Seek a relationship

Lukuluku69:


Ok.

When time permits, I will share he much I know.

Good.
I'll be waiting

Lukuluku69:


Yes nah

So your Problem is that they are not in disagreement with each other?

TenQ:

So your Problem is that they are not in disagreement with each other?

Go back and read why I mentioned them. While at it, read slowly for comprehension sake.

TenQ:

Since you don't know, go seek!

How can you know
1. Die
2. Seek a relationship

Lmao

Lukuluku69:


Go back and read why I mentioned them. While at it, read slowly for comprehension sake.

I guess you forgot your own train of thought and argument.

You said:

Who told you that the Canonized Gospels don't have discrepancies? From the Top of my head can you decidedly tell him when the rites of "eating the flesh and drinking Jesus blood was instituted ?

Later, you said the Gospels are in agreement because according to you

Oga, it is common knowledge that Synoptic cribbed from each other. Lol

Conflicting and incomplete thoughts I should say

TenQ:


I guess you forgot your own train of thought and argument.

You said:

Later, you said the Gospels are in agreement because according to you



Conflicting and incomplete thoughts I should say

No.

Scroll up. You get where and why I made that point.

Scroll up

Lukuluku69:


No.

Scroll up. You get where and why I made that point.

Scroll up

Let's call it a day please. This train goes no where profitable.

Till next time sir. You've been more honourable than your peers

Sorry for bothering you.

I just found this video and I think you should see it




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNU6Kmc9zYA

TenQ:

Since you don't know, go seek!

How can you know
1. Die
2. Seek a relationship

Like I said nothing but an idea, you have nothing of substance to show.

LordReed:


Like I said nothing but an idea, you have nothing of substance to show.

1. You have not died
2. You have not sought a relationship
But somehow, you know the answer to HOW?

Goodnight!
Of course at the end of the day, you will have to know!

TenQ:

1. You have not died
2. You have not sought a relationship
But somehow, you know the answer to HOW?

Goodnight!
Of course at the end of the day, you will have to know!

Of what use will my death be to me right now? How can I die and still be alive to experience what you are saying? Have you died yourself?

Sought a relationship with an idea? Yes I have that's why I know it's balderdash.

I asked you questions to which you could provide no substantive answers, just the usual dance around the mulberry bush.