Lukuluku69:


Habakkuk 3:1-19 (KJV) A prayer of Habakkuk the prophet upon Shigionoth.
O LORD, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O LORD, revive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known; in wrath remember mercy.
God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.
And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power.
Before him went the pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet.
He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations; and the everlasting mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow: his ways are everlasting.
I saw the tents of Cushan in affliction: and the curtains of the land of Midian did tremble.
Was the LORD displeased against the rivers? was thine anger against the rivers? was thy wrath against the sea, that thou didst ride upon thine horses and thy chariots of salvation?
Thy bow was made quite naked, according to the oaths of the tribes, even thy word. Selah. Thou didst cleave the earth with rivers.
The mountains saw thee, and they trembled: the overflowing of the water passed by: the deep uttered his voice, and lifted up his hands on high.
The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.
Thou didst march through the land in indignation, thou didst thresh the heathen in anger.
Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.
Thou didst strike through with his staves the head of his villages: they came out as a whirlwind to scatter me: their rejoicing was as to devour the poor secretly.
Thou didst walk through the sea with thine horses, through the heap of great waters.
When I heard, my belly trembled; my lips quivered at the voice: rottenness entered into my bones, and I trembled in myself, that I might rest in the day of trouble: when he cometh up unto the people, he will invade them with his troops.
Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labour of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls:
Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will joy in the God of my salvation.
The LORD God is my strength, and he will make my feet like hinds' feet, and he will make me to walk upon mine high places. To the chief singer on my stringed instruments.

Oga leave the bible alone. Tell me about Muhammad's prophesy in the Koran.
U Muslims are confused lots. U boast Koran is the perfect book for mankind. Yet it's not complete without the hadiths. But since the hadiths are weak, u need the tafsirs to reinterprete the Koran.
But since above can't sufficiently explain how Muhammad is from God or where Allah came from, u have to run to the bible which u guys claim has been corrupted.
It's the people u deceive I pity.

Lukuluku69:


Go and read Daniel Chapter 7. If you have issues deciphering it, mention me.

So which of the 4 beasts is Muhammad because he can't be the son of man approaching the ancient of days- he was never called that while on earth.
Well it doesn't matter since they were crushed by the son of man which is Jesus Christ.

SIRTee15:

Oga leave the bible alone. Tell me about Muhammad's prophesy in the Koran.
U Muslims are confused lots. U boast Koran is the perfect book for mankind. Yet it's not complete without the hadiths. But since the hadiths are weak, u need the tafsirs to reinterprete the Koran.
But since above can't sufficiently explain how Muhammad is from God or where Allah came from, u have to run to the bible which u guys claim has been corrupted.
It's the people u deceive I pity.

Calm down.

So, you can tell me from your Bible where Jehovah came from?

You believe in the Bible that's why I quotes from it to you. And if you are half intelligent as you are presenting, you will notice when you read your Bible that there are Three.Distinct References.

1. The Word of God.
2. The Words of God's Prophet
3. The Words of Men

On a Second thought, I can see that I am headed to a dead end with you. No matter what is said, you will still hold on to your views.

SIRTee15:

So which of the 4 beasts is Muhammad because he can't be the son of man approaching the ancient of days- he was never called that while on earth.
Well it doesn't matter since they were crushed by the son of man which is Jesus Christ.

As you can see from your response, you are not even a UpTo a Kindergarten Student in Bible exegesis, engaging you will be a waste of time.

So long....

SIRTee15:


Ok I understand u now.
u are one of those Muslims looking for Muhammad in the bible.
If I take u on Isaiah 42, u will declare your imams as frauds for lying to u this donkey years.
Isaiah 42 is about Jesus Christ.

After this no more, live with your ignorance. Go thru Isaiah 42 and apply every single verse to the life of Jesus as recorded in your Bible and see if they fit.

And let me ask,

1. Was Jesus a Servant of God and no longer his Son and God himself again in order to claim Isaiah 42 for him?

2. Did your Jesus ever lived or preached amongst Arabs ( The villages of KEDAR)?

Lukuluku69:


After this no more, live with your ignorance. Go thru Isaiah 42 and apply every single verse to the life of Jesus as recorded in your Bible and see if they fit.

And let me ask,

1. Was Jesus a Servant of God and no longer his Son and God himself again in order to claim Isaiah 42 for him?

2. Did your Jesus ever lived or preached amongst Arabs ( The villages of KEDAR)?

1. just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Matthew 20.28
When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you, to bless you by turning each one of you from your wicked ways.” acts 3.26

2. This need no response at all but this
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16.15

Lukuluku69:


After this no more, live with your ignorance. Go thru Isaiah 42 and apply every single verse to the life of Jesus as recorded in your Bible and see if they fit.

And let me ask,

1. Was Jesus a Servant of God and no longer his Son and God himself again in order to claim Isaiah 42 for him?

2. Did your Jesus ever lived or preached amongst Arabs ( The villages of KEDAR)?

Muhammad can't be spoken about in Isaiah 42 because he didn't fulfil the FF highlighted verses

Here is my servant, whom I uphold,
my chosen one in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will bring justice to the nations.
2 He will not shout or cry out,
or raise his voice in the streets.
3A bruised reed he will not break,
and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out.
In faithfulness he will bring forth justice;
4 he will not falter or be discouraged
till he establishes justice on earth.
In his teaching the islands will put their hope.”

5 This is what God the Lord says—
the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out,
who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it,
who gives breath to its people,
and life to those who walk on it:
6 “I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and a light for the Gentiles,
7 to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.

8 “I am the Lord; that is my name!
I will not yield my glory to another
or my praise to idols.
9 See, the former things have taken place,
and new things I declare;
before they spring into being
I announce them to you.”

Song of Praise to the Lord
10 Sing to the Lord a new song,
his praise from the ends of the earth,
you who go down to the sea, and all that is in it,
you islands, and all who live in them.
11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices;
let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice.
Let the people of Sela sing for joy;
let them shout from the mountaintops.
12 Let them give glory to the Lord
and proclaim his praise in the islands.
13 The Lord will march out like a champion,
like a warrior he will stir up his zeal;
with a shout he will raise the battle cry
and will triumph over his enemies.

Muhammed never claimed the spirit of God was in him. v1b
Muhammed killed both in times of war and peace. He equally encouraged and approved of his followers to kill on times of war and peace. v 2-3
Muhammed contemplated suicide multiple times because he was discouraged. v4
Muhammed didn't bring a new covenant, he never said that. Instead he said Jews should follow the Torah and Christians follow the gospel. v6
Muhammed never healed the blind, at least not in the Koran. Instead, he plucked out the eyes of people accused of stealing his donkeys. v7
Muhammad never claimed to be God or posses his divinity. v8
Muhammed banned singing in Islam. He instead murdered praise singers when he entered Mecca. v10

Verse 10 to 13 is about singing praise to YAHWEH. It mentions glorious adoration from all people surrounding Jerusalem including the Kedah wilderness in the east.

How Isaiah 42 is about Muhammad because of a single word is the most baffling statements made from Muslims.

SIRTee15:


As I challenged that atheist in the other thread and he ran away. I will challenge u to tell me of any miracle you ve ever witnessed in your life. Like a miraculous event that defies any logical or scientific explanation.
In my work in the medical field, I ve seen miraculous healing both on Nigeria and oversea.
Miracles ain't for everybody. Jesus didn't open the eyes of all the blind in Judea otherwise there will be none left for Peter to open their eyes in the act of apostles.
I understand miracles is no big deal to u guys in Islam because Muhammad never did a miracle. They had to wait 200 yrs after his death to start fabricating miracles for him.

Which atheist did you challenge and that ran away? You talked about a woman getting healed about stage 4 cervical CA and I gave you scientific evidence that many people irrespective of religion, race and nationality have spontaneous carcinomatous remission. Those people did not pray to any yahweh for healing, yet got healed. Is that too much for you to understand?

SIRTee15:

Actually there are more more people converting from Islam to Christianity than Christianity to Islam.
Above is according to pew research.
The problem is people who have never been to the door of a church since they were christened will join Islam and start claiming they left Christianity.
Which Christianity? Some of them couldn't even say the Lord's prayer.

The reason why Islam is appealing in the western world is multifactorial.
1. Christianity is dying in the west and compromising to a ridiculous extent. Immigrants churches that are suppose to fill the void are too clannish and doesn't appeal to the indigenes.
Westerners who desire spirituality will gravitate to the next religion available which is Islam.

2. Westerners are adventurous in nature, that's who they are. They love to explore new and novel things. There's nothing new about Christianity. It's been with them for thousands of years.
They are curious about this strange religion called Islam. Well they say curiosity killed the cat but even we blacks have benefited from this curiosity.
For those who don't know the segregation law against blacks in the west was centred around protecting the white woman from the 'dangerous' black man.
Most case of lynching of blacks and destruction of black properties by whites always start with the rallying cry 'a black man has assaulted a white woman'. The next thing is a white mob attack in black neighborhood.
Yet today the commonest interracial marriage in the world is between the black man and the white woman. The white women were curious to know about this dangerous black man.
I strongly believe if ifa religion is repackaged, modernised and reintroduced with a strong global appeal. The biggest converts will be westerners and not Yorubas.

3. Muslim offers a strong community that other religion lacks. This may not be a big deal in the most cultures where community is everything irrespective of religion but it's a big deal in the west where individualism is the norm.
Vulnerable people who need support will find Islam as a choice. Most converts don't even understand the religion itself but that community support and protection it gives is a big deal esp to those with personality problems.

4. Now this is the most important. Islam in the west is a watered down version of real islam. Muslims in the west don't practice islam, instead they exercise their right to freedom of religious expression as it suits them. What this means is they are very selective in what they practice. That right is protected and enforced by western law.
Islam in the west offer the goodies in it without burdening u with the bitterness experienced by Muslims in other parts of the world, the toxic and extreme form of Islam which is the true Islam dare not rear it's head in the west. Unfortunately this make islam look good in the west.

Thats a big lie. Pew research gotten from questionaires state there are more christian to atheist conversion, then christian to muslim conversion, than muslim to christian conversion. Stop all these lies

jaephoenix:

Thats a big lie. Pew research gotten from questionaires state there are more christian to atheist conversion, then christian to muslim conversion, than muslim to christian conversion. Stop all these lies

What red herring argument is this? Did I mention atheism. I was comparing 2 religions and next thing u jumped into it with your atheism strawman argument nobody discussed in the first place.

jaephoenix:

Which atheist did you challenge and that ran away? You talked about a woman getting healed about stage 4 cervical CA and I gave you scientific evidence that many people irrespective of religion, race and nationality have spontaneous carcinomatous remission. Those people did not pray to any yahweh for healing, yet got healed. Is that too much for you to understand?

Spontaneous remission after receiving treatment.
Atheists will do anything to win an argument.

Lukuluku69:


After this no more, live with your ignorance. Go thru Isaiah 42 and apply every single verse to the life of Jesus as recorded in your Bible and see if they fit.

And let me ask,

1. Was Jesus a Servant of God and no longer his Son and God himself again in order to claim Isaiah 42 for him?

2. Did your Jesus ever lived or preached amongst Arabs ( The villages of KEDAR)?

See your fellow Muslim stumbling and fumbling on Isaiah 42. He had to twist the whole plot to justify inclusion of Muhammad in the chapter.
Funny enough the other guy isn't even Christian but was probably seeking clarification though sounds very intelligent.

First, the Muslim guy admitted Isaiah 1-39 is proto isaiah- written by Isaiah while 40 to 55 is deutero isaiah- anonymous authors, yet insisted chapter 42 must have been written by Isaiah and no one else. When asked why, he said because of his religious bias and the Koran.

Second, the Muslim guy said isaiah 42 is about Muhammad because his genealogy links him to kedar- the 2nd son of Ishmael and Isaiah 42 wrote about the Kedarites.
When the intelligent guy reminded him that Muhammad himself said no one should trace his genealogy beyond Adnan- who is hundred of years away from Ishmael, the Muslim guy fumbled and quickly ran to hadith for cover. Eventually, he admitted there's no evidence anywhere that shows Muhammad is a direct descendant of Kedah.

The other guy also pointed out that the book of isaiah- esp deutero isaiah was compiled and possibly influenced by Ezra who worked for the Persian govt.
He posited that Ezra could have been biased towards Cyrus the king of persia and may have described him in the book based on contemporary events at that time. This could fit into the Isaiah 42 because Cyrus the great actually ruled over the kedarites. The Muslim guy couldn't give any reasonable response but finally agreed with him the theory could be true.

However, the Muslim guy insisted Muhammad is in Isaiah 42 because Muhammad claimed the biblical scriptures spoke about him.
When the other guy pointed out that the scripture being referred to is the Torah- the first five books of Moses, the Muslim guy did the greatest gymnastic ever witnessed on live camera.
He said the word Torah is used loosely in the Koran and Muhammad actually meant the tanakh when he was referring to the Torah meaning Isaiah must enter the Koran by fire by force.
He said the Torah according to the Koran doesn't mean the five books of Moses, but all books written in the old testament. U go fear desperate Muslim.

As u people can see from.video, a religion that twist mouth at every given second cannot be from God. Today bible is corrupt, tomorrow bible confirms Muhammad.
Today Torah is the five books of Moses, tomorrow Torah is the book old testament.
Allah gave Moses the Torah as stated clearly in the Koran, now the Muslim guy is implying it included the book of isaiah. How Moses received a book that came 1000yrs after his death is a mystery.

Modern day Muslims are beginning to distort the Qur'an to fit their modern narrative since the ancient Muhammad written about in present Koran cannot be an ideal role model in today's world. It's only a matter of time they produce a new version of Qur'an.
Not only are they distorting their own Koran but they are lying against history to justify their religion. The Muslim guy lied that the Torah was a recent compilation. However, we know that the Torah was first recorded to have been compiled in 500bc which is 1000yrs b4 islam.

Go to 8.00 if u don't have patience to go through the whole video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vwKYPyVOxY

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SIRTee15:

Spontaneous remission after receiving treatment.
Atheists will do anything to win an argument.

Nope. The spontaneous remission was not after any treatment.
Christians dont understand english

SIRTee15:


What red herring argument is this? Did I mention atheism. I was comparing 2 religions and next thing u jumped into it with your atheism strawman argument nobody discussed in the first place.

Even if you remove atheism there which one is still higher?

jaephoenix:

Even if you remove atheism there which one is still higher?

The answer is in the initial post.

jaephoenix:

Nope. The spontaneous remission was not after any treatment.
Christians dont understand english

I've begged u to produce just one evidence of spontaneous remission without treatment in metastatic cancer. Just one.
Is that not what we ve been dragging for days. Just one evidence, Google and come back with evidence- remember I said stage 4 cancer.
We learn everyday,

SIRTee15:


Muhammad can't be spoken about in Isaiah 42 because he didn't fulfil the FF highlighted verses

Here is my servant, whom I uphold,
my chosen one in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will bring justice to the nations.
2 He will not shout or cry out,
or raise his voice in the streets.
3A bruised reed he will not break,
and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out.
In faithfulness he will bring forth justice;
4 he will not falter or be discouraged
till he establishes justice on earth.
In his teaching the islands will put their hope.”

5 This is what God the Lord says—
the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out,
who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it,
who gives breath to its people,
and life to those who walk on it:
6 “I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and a light for the Gentiles,
7 to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.

8 “I am the Lord; that is my name!
I will not yield my glory to another
or my praise to idols.
9 See, the former things have taken place,
and new things I declare;
before they spring into being
I announce them to you.”

Song of Praise to the Lord
10 Sing to the Lord a new song,
his praise from the ends of the earth,
you who go down to the sea, and all that is in it,
you islands, and all who live in them.
11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices;
let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice.
Let the people of Sela sing for joy;
let them shout from the mountaintops.
12 Let them give glory to the Lord
and proclaim his praise in the islands.
13 The Lord will march out like a champion,
like a warrior he will stir up his zeal;
with a shout he will raise the battle cry
and will triumph over his enemies.

Muhammed never claimed the spirit of God was in him. v1b
Muhammed killed both in times of war and peace. He equally encouraged and approved of his followers to kill on times of war and peace. v 2-3
Muhammed contemplated suicide multiple times because he was discouraged. v4
Muhammed didn't bring a new covenant, he never said that. Instead he said Jews should follow the Torah and Christians follow the gospel. v6
Muhammed never healed the blind, at least not in the Koran. Instead, he plucked out the eyes of people accused of stealing his donkeys. v7
Muhammad never claimed to be God or posses his divinity. v8
Muhammed banned singing in Islam. He instead murdered praise singers when he entered Mecca. v10

Verse 10 to 13 is about singing praise to YAHWEH. It mentions glorious adoration from all people surrounding Jerusalem including the Kedah wilderness in the east.

How Isaiah 42 is about Muhammad because of a single word is the most baffling statements made from Muslims.

You are Babe.

It would be a waste of time explaining Isaiah 42 and 60 as well as others to you. That I can see already.

Lukuluku69:


You are Babe.

It would be a waste of time explaining Isaiah 42 and 60 as well as others to you. That I can see already.

U are not obliged to explain anything to me.
But u will do well to refute the agnostic argument in the video I posted, because your fellow Muslim scholar did a bad job of putting Muhammad in Isaiah 42.

SIRTee15:

So which of the 4 beasts is Muhammad because he can't be the son of man approaching the ancient of days- he was never called that while on earth.
Well it doesn't matter since they were crushed by the son of man which is Jesus Christ.

Sometimes, occasions demands that in Learning; which is continuous we Relearn certain "Truths" we have come to accept overtime in the face of our reality. I can understand the dross you have been fed with overtime. It is not your fault perse.

But when new evidences backed by the Cold hard Facts of history is presented to you, holding on to your "Truths" which are fables conjured up to serve a purpose, then you are not but a brain dead ZoneB.

First initial state can be excused but the latter is inexcusable and whatever come your way, you rightly deserve.

If you will leave off abuses, jettison your bias, we: you and I can explore the Bible together and show you that most of what you held to be your "Truths" are actually false and conjectures.

Go thru my posts, I am not one to make unfounded Bible exegesis. I will back it up with History you can almost touch.

Note all the Biblical references I dropped, I will back them up with History you can touch.

I will leave you with the words of Prophet Jeremiah that when you are confused as to who worship the True God, look unto Kedar

Jeremiah 2:9-12 (KJV) Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I plead.
For pass over the isles of Chittim, and see; and send unto Kedar, and consider diligently, and see if there be such a thing.
Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.
Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the LORD.

SIRTee15:

U are not obliged to explain anything to me.
But u will do well to refute the agnostic argument in the video I posted, because your fellow Muslim scholar did a bad job of putting Muhammad in Isaiah 42.

Dude, I am not a Scholar neither are the words of Scholars 100% valid.

I can give you the interpretations to Isaiah 42 and 60 and whatever I put up, you can verify. Prophesies are word pictures of future events. A Mystery to those reading it when it time has not come, and only the Wise decipher it when it has come to pass.

Isaiah 42 is a Prophesy into the future. The Jews that flocks to Arabia back then were looking for it's fulfilment because it explicitly mentions " Tents that Kedar/Villages of Kedar" which is the geographical location of the prophesy happening but they erred in thinking that Prophet would be a Fellow Jew.

SIRTee15:

U are not obliged to explain anything to me.
But u will do well to refute the agnostic argument in the video I posted, because your fellow Muslim scholar did a bad job of putting Muhammad in Isaiah 42.

Then simmer in your ignorance

1. Permit me to call you a nattering nitwit! You even deserve a medal! Do you know why? You judged all Muslims based on an idea of just one single Muslim.

Can we do this with you? Can I judge you with the comments of a Unitarian Christian or a Jehovah witness or other 1001 denominations you don't agree with? That is how a nattering nitwit does!

All of you are just film trick! No iota of holy anything in you guys!

2. The only thing i can see through your post (from the other guy you mentioned)is that the Bible as it is today was written by men in Power without the input of any God!

SIRTee15:


See your fellow Muslim stumbling and fumbling on Isaiah 42. He had to twist the whole plot to justify inclusion of Muhammad in the chapter.
Funny enough the other guy isn't even Christian but was probably seeking clarification though sounds very intelligent.

First, the Muslim guy admitted Isaiah 1-39 is proto isaiah- written by Isaiah while 40 to 55 is deutero isaiah- anonymous authors, yet insisted chapter 42 must have been written by Isaiah and no one else. When asked why, he said because of his religious bias and the Koran.

Second, the Muslim guy said isaiah 42 is about Muhammad because his genealogy links him to kedar- the 2nd son of Ishmael and Isaiah 42 wrote about the Kedarites.
When the intelligent guy reminded him that Muhammad himself said no one should trace his genealogy beyond Adnan- who is hundred of years away from Ishmael, the Muslim guy fumbled and quickly ran to hadith for cover. Eventually, he admitted there's no evidence anywhere that shows Muhammad is a direct descendant of Kedah.

The other guy also pointed out that the book of isaiah- esp deutero isaiah was compiled and possibly influenced by Ezra who worked for the Persian govt.
He posited that Ezra could have been biased towards Cyrus the king of persia and may have described him in the book based on contemporary events at that time. This could fit into the Isaiah 42 because Cyrus the great actually ruled over the kedarites. The Muslim guy couldn't give any reasonable response but finally agreed with him the theory could be true.

However, the Muslim guy insisted Muhammad is in Isaiah 42 because Muhammad claimed the biblical scriptures spoke about him.
When the other guy pointed out that the scripture being referred to is the Torah- the first five books of Moses, the Muslim guy did the greatest gymnastic ever witnessed on live camera.
He said the word Torah is used loosely in the Koran and Muhammad actually meant the tanakh when he was referring to the Torah meaning Isaiah must enter the Koran by fire by force.
He said the Torah according to the Koran doesn't mean the five books of Moses, but all books written in the old testament. U go fear desperate Muslim.

As u people can see from.video, a religion that twist mouth at every given second cannot be from God. Today bible is corrupt, tomorrow bible confirms Muhammad.
Today Torah is the five books of Moses, tomorrow Torah is the book old testament.
Allah gave Moses the Torah as stated clearly in the Koran, now the Muslim guy is implying it included the book of isaiah. How Moses received a book that came 1000yrs after his death is a mystery.

Modern day Muslims are beginning to distort the Qur'an to fit their modern narrative since the ancient Muhammad written about in present Koran cannot be an ideal role model in today's world. It's only a matter of time they produce a new version of Qur'an.
Not only are they distorting their own Koran but they are lying against history to justify their religion. The Muslim guy lied that the Torah was a recent compilation. However, we know that the Torah was first recorded to have been compiled in 500bc which is 1000yrs b4 islam.

Go to 8.00 if u don't have patience to go through the whole video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vwKYPyVOxY

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AntiChristian, Empiree, Haekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, Hisbah21, , Lordmoh , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan , Alfarouq, drlateef.

One man does not decide for Islam!
Islam is the Qur'an and Sunnah as understood by the companions/Pious predecessors!

AntiChristian:

One man does not decide for Islam!
Islam is the Qur'an and Sunnah as understood by the companions/Pious predecessors!

I don't think you don chop dis morning

Who dey decide for your Islam in Nigeria, when to start your ramadan and have your eid if not Sultan of Sokoto

ANTIlSLAM:


I don't think you don't chop dis morning

Who dey decide for your Islam in Nigeria, when to start your ramadan and have your eid if not Sultan of Sokoto

You are ignorant!

Sultan is the head of the moon sighting committee!

He is not alone!

AntiChristian:


You are ignorant!

Sultan is the head of the moon sighting committee!

He is not alone!

Let's see who's ignorant now, a question I will ask you is this

In 2023, who made announcements that you Muslims in Nigeria should commence your fasting?



NOTE: Be guided here before you activate your taqqiya

https://dailypost.ng/2023/03/22/sultan-of-sokoto-announces-commencement-of-ramadan-fasting/

AntiChristian:
1. Permit me to call you a nattering nitwit! You even deserve a medal! Do you know why? You judged all Muslims based on an idea of just one single Muslim.

Can we do this with you? Can I judge you with the comments of a Unitarian Christian or a Jehovah witness or other 1001 denominations you don't agree with? That is how a nattering nitwit does!

All of you are just film trick! No iota of holy anything in you guys!

2. The only thing i can see through your post (from the other guy you mentioned)is that the Bible as it is today was written by men in Power without the input of any God!



One man does not decide for Islam!
Islam is the Qur'an and Sunnah as understood by the companions/Pious predecessors!

You are the dishonest fellow. We all know Muslims claim Muhammed is in the bible. Nairaland Muslims have challenged Christians so many times on this claim including one of you here claiming Isaiah is all about Muhammed
Now that the guy did a bad job, u quickly denied him. If he had convincingly won the argument, u will be here shouting praise be Allah.
Instead of embarrassing yourselves on live camera, let your imam say the truth to all you Muslims- there's no Muhammed in the bible.

SIRTee15:


You are the dishonest fellow. We all know Muslims claim Muhammed is in the bible. Nairaland Muslims have challenged Christians so many times on this claim including one of you here claiming Isaiah is all about Muhammed
Now that the guy did a bad job, u quickly denied him. If he had convincingly won the argument, u will be here shouting praise be Allah.
Instead of embarrassing yourselves on live camera, let your imam say the truth to all you Muslims- there's no Muhammed in the bible.

Who did a bad job about Isaiah 42/60?

Lol

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You are Babe in this things and exposition of them will do you no good. I stopped because obviously you are a waste of time. Nothing more...

And not only Isaiah, I will show you dozens other references of the Prophet and his Mission. Thousands are seeing it in the western world and go find out what is becoming of them.

Lukuluku69:


Who did a bad job about Isaiah 42/60?

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You Babe in this things and exposition of them will do you no good. I stopped because obviously you are a waste of time. Nothing more...

And not only Isaiah, I will show you dozens other references of the Prophet and his Mission. Thousands are seeing it in the western world and go find out what is becoming of them.

Your Islamic scholar failed woefully on live camera. Go to the the comments section and see how they were mocking him.
I never get your time for now.
Btw can you confirm the Torah given to Moses is the five book of Moses or the old testament. I want to check something.

SIRTee15:


Your Islamic scholar failed woefully on live camera. Go to the the comments section and see how they were mocking him.
I never get your time for now.
Btw can you confirm the Torah given to Moses is the five book of Moses or the old testament. I want to check something.

The comments section is filled with ignorant retar.ds, so no issues.

Confirm the Torah given to.Moses as how? What has that got to do with what I posted?

Lukuluku69:


Dude, I am not a Scholar neither are the words of Scholars 100% valid.

I can give you the interpretations to Isaiah 42 and 60 and whatever I put up, you can verify. Prophesies are word pictures of future events. A Mystery to those reading it when it time has not come, and only the Wise decipher it when it has come to pass.

Isaiah 42 is a Prophesy into the future. The Jews that flocks to Arabia back then were looking for it's fulfilment because it explicitly mentions " Tents that Kedar/Villages of Kedar" which is the geographical location of the prophesy happening but they erred in thinking that Prophet would be a Fellow Jew.

Jews had been in the Arabian peninsula as far back as 400bc after the Babylonian invasion of Judah. The fall of Jerusalem in 66CE led to further migration. By 300CE, more Jews fled to the Arabian peninsula to escape the oppression of the Byzantine Christians who were blaming them for killing Jesus.

By the time of Muhammad, Medina had a well established Jewish community who deal in jewelry, weapons and trade.
There's no claim or evidence anywhere to suggest Jews migrated hoping for any Messiah in the Hijaz area.
If u have any such evidence to back up your claim , pls post it and let's critic.

If the Jews were to await the Messiah in Kedar as you claim, they will settle in areas around modern day Syria, Jordan, iraq and northern Saudi arabia. The qedarites were generally nomadic Bedouin who lived in those areas in ancient times. There's no evidence the Kedarites occupied Hejaz which is historically linked to the adnanites.

The Medina jews refused to follow Muhammed because his teachings contradicted their own books and they just couldn't reconcile how he could be from God with the glaring errors he was making.
Above was the beginning of their problem with Muhammed. He knew he had to find a permanent solution to the Jews before they find him out as a fake prophet.
He expelled two tribes, eliminated the 3rd and laid siege on the 4th. The Jews eventually behaved and learned to keep shut, those who couldn't migrated out of Arab peninsula area.

Lukuluku69:


The comments section is filled with ignorant retar.ds, so no issues.

Confirm the Torah given to.Moses as how? What has that got to do with what I posted?

Pls confirm whether the Torah given to Moses by Allah was the Pentateuch or the complete old testament, as told in the Koran by Muhammed.
The Muslim scholar claimed the Torah given to Moses by Allah was the old testament- books of Moses and the other prophets.

SIRTee15:


You are the dishonest fellow. We all know Muslims claim Muhammed is in the bible. Nairaland Muslims have challenged Christians so many times on this claim including one of you here claiming Isaiah is all about Muhammed
Now that the guy did a bad job, u quickly denied him. If he had convincingly won the argument, u will be here shouting praise be Allah.
Instead of embarrassing yourselves on live camera, let your imam say the truth to all you Muslims- there's no Muhammed in the bible.

You always do this weird generalization which is stoopid! Ahmad was actually mentioned in the Injeel, and your Bible is not Injeel!
You are the destructive generaliser!
Hypocrite!