| Re: Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish by AutoConsult: 9:57pm On May 14, 2023 |
ukaface:
Nawa o
If I tell you say this thing no shock me na lie I Dey lie Visit there and read the signs yourself. They'll make you a believer. |
| Re: Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish by emekajacobogbon(m): 9:59pm On May 14, 2023 |
jesusjnr2020:
Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish
Ever since I became born-again and began to walk closely with God, I have always thought the practice of setting attendance or financial targets by churches and their leaders for those under their leadership was erroneous.
Bros God bless you for this write up and exposition.
See as I am talking to you, everywhere I go, they tell me I have a call to serve God and I am fully convinced about it.
But my brother, it's painful to want to serve God and you will be compelled to extort money from people who are deeply in search of truth and help.
I'm just doing a one man ministry.
If God gives me any message for anybody, I will deliver it to the person directly.
All the churches in Nigeria are doing same.
I left my catholic church and went to pentecostal coz of same issue.
But it became worse there.
My relationship and peace with God is above silver and gold.
I believed it was a worldly practice that had nothing to do with God, hence if the church embraced such it would only end up derailing the church from its original values and standard.
I once had a friend who was a dedicated member of Christ Embassy, one of the denominations guilty of this practice, so when this topic came up during our conversations, I expressed my disapproval of such a policy in the church. But despite being a very devoted and committed member of the Church, he honestly admitted that such targets made him to start preaching what he ought not when he held a leadership position under the church.
He bowed to the pressure of meeting such targets set for him by his leaders and began preaching something else which he thought would enable him meet those targets when preaching the right thing couldn't.
I wasn't much surprised though about that because I knew very well that such was inevitable, considering that such targets were worldly and not of God, so it was only going to lead to compromising and going contrary to the things of God, since the things of this world were opposed to the things of God.
This is the same kind of targets set by some financial institutions to their employees that would make them to start going to ridiculous lengths, including sleeping with some of their clients, to meet them.
This is what has being embraced by a significant part of the church which ought to be in this world but not to the world.
That's why I don't get impressed with the mammoth crowds attending some churches and the amount of money they generate as a result.
It's much easier to achieve similar results by preaching the nonsense people want to hear rather than the Truth and Words of the Spirit.
If it were by preaching rubbish as it is the case in most of such churches, many of the disciples who left Jesus because of the Words of the Spirit He preached, would have never left Him.
They would have remained in the church at the expense of spiritual quality, which is more or less the result of the church we have today.
That's why I don't judge a church by the amount of members or riches they have, but how much they follow the example and teachings of Christ, because that's the only true standard that determines how successful a church is in the sight of God.
God bless. |
| Re: Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish by Justbeingreal(m): 10:45pm On May 14, 2023 |
FarmTech:
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Not all though. Some are trying oo. It's not easy. That some is not more than 1% if truly there's any. |
| Re: Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish by Gospel2Day: 10:52pm On May 14, 2023 |
[quote author=HomeTutorsPro post=123125416]You are born again and you are attacking a particular church?
You need to check your birth again 'cos I think the placenta didn't drop.
The issue of rubbish teaching is a characteristic of all religious organisations.
Religion is focused on mind control by default.
You can't condemn one church and vindicate another. Mosques are not left out.
A lot of churches operate a franchise.
Sign an agreement, open a church in their name, and deliver a certain amount monthly.
If you fail, they take over your church.
Until Christians understand that they don't need no pastor to access God, the nonsense continues.
Christians actually need pastors.
To say they don't is to say God is foolish for providing pastors as gifts to the church.
Do sheep need shepherd's?
Who disciplines you if you err or misbehave in your Christian journey?
Many of you just come online to announce and expose your ignorance of the Bible and God's plan for the church.
Fellowshiping with other believers under the leadership of a pastoral teacher or elder is a commandment for all serious and obedient converts, NOT what some rebellious, over sabi ignorant disobedient ones spew online saying "Christians don't need pastors, bla bla bla." 2 Likes |
| Re: Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish by TheRealOwner(m): 11:08pm On May 14, 2023 |
denzel231:
Amen .
Do you listen to him too? Almost every day. I listened to 2 today. I follow RCN on YouTube and Telegram back to back. He's a collosus and a blessing to this generation |
| Re: Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish by DrDunamis(m): 11:44pm On May 14, 2023 |
jesusjnr2020:
Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish
Ever since I became born-again and began to walk closely with God, I have always thought the practice of setting attendance or financial targets by churches and their leaders for those under their leadership was erroneous.
I believed it was a worldly practice that had nothing to do with God, hence if the church embraced such it would only end up derailing the church from its original values and standard.
I once had a friend who was a dedicated member of Christ Embassy, one of the denominations guilty of this practice, so when this topic came up during our conversations, I expressed my disapproval of such a policy in the church. But despite being a very devoted and committed member of the Church, he honestly admitted that such targets made him to start preaching what he ought not when he held a leadership position under the church.
He bowed to the pressure of meeting such targets set for him by his leaders and began preaching something else which he thought would enable him meet those targets when preaching the right thing couldn't.
I wasn't much surprised though about that because I knew very well that such was inevitable, considering that such targets were worldly and not of God, so it was only going to lead to compromising and going contrary to the things of God, since the things of this world were opposed to the things of God.
This is the same kind of targets set by some financial institutions to their employees that would make them to start going to ridiculous lengths, including sleeping with some of their clients, to meet them.
This is what has being embraced by a significant part of the church which ought to be in this world but not to the world.
That's why I don't get impressed with the mammoth crowds attending some churches and the amount of money they generate as a result.
It's much easier to achieve similar results by preaching the nonsense people want to hear rather than the Truth and Words of the Spirit.
If it were by preaching rubbish as it is the case in most of such churches, many of the disciples who left Jesus because of the Words of the Spirit He preached, would have never left Him.
They would have remained in the church at the expense of spiritual quality, which is more or less the result of the church we have today.
That's why I don't judge a church by the amount of members or riches they have, but how much they follow the example and teachings of Christ, because that's the only true standard that determines how successful a church is in the sight of God.
God bless. Well written right up! Are you sure you're truly born again? Are you sure you understand the things you've chosen to write about? Are you sure the Lord has given you the sole ministry of whatever this thing is that you're doing? Even in cults they're given targets to know how influential and powerful they are and their reach. They even pay dues, how much you who is tasked with the responsibility of reaching the world with the gospel? If I asked you when the last time was that you preached and led someone to Christ, I'm not certain I'd get a response from you. If you claim to be Spiritual and understand these matters, then look into your Bible and observe how the church grew and expanded. |
| Re: Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish by phemmyfour: 7:21am On May 15, 2023 |
Kukutenla:
Wonderful!! Are you aware Redeemed also plant a church every Easter and Christmas? Does that also make them fake? That's why we are poor in Africa, planting Churches instead of planting people by building factories and planting crops. What's the essence of have 3-4 Churches in a street, that's malady. We invest more in the building than the CHURCH (the people) itself. |
| Re: Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish by Kukutenla: 7:55am On May 15, 2023 |
phemmyfour:
That's why we are poor in Africa, planting Churches instead of planting people by building factories and planting crops. What's the essence of have 3-4 Churches in a street, that's malady. We invest more in the building than the CHURCH (the people) itself. Hmmm. But does that make the Church fake |
| Re: Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish by cayorday89(m): 9:53am On May 15, 2023 |
ukaface:
😂😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Wait fess o
What is the target suppose to do? Increase tithe and offering??😮 Nope, increasing tithe and offering is just what comes along with it, the main reason is to rewin souls that has been won by other churches in the most appropriate way right to them alone. lomprico:
Such target if for financial gain only and not for any soul winning.
Living faith Church and most prosperity preaching church are also guilty of it. I liked that you mentioned Winners, they are right beside my house, and they won't stop sharing flier to me to come to their service, I collect but never make the mistake of giving them my mobile number like I don't have my own church to attend, na only them know way to God. lomprico:
Such target if for financial gain only and not for any soul winning.
Living faith Church and most prosperity preaching church are also guilty of it. Trustedpronet:
And that is why I like Jehovah witness. Give according to your heart. The best, when you meet the truly dedicated members especially amongst the old people, them no dey bother you with money, the only reason I don't allow them wait and preach to me again is because this my adult life now needs all the time either to make money or relax... 1 Like |
| Re: Worldly Targets Set By Churches: How My Friend Began Preaching Rubbish by FarmTech(m): 9:06pm On May 15, 2023 |
Justbeingreal:
That some is not more than 1% if truly there's any. . Hard to tell. |
