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Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by Nobody: 9:19am On Sep 28, 2011
Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543)
Copernicus was the Polish astronomer who put forward the first mathematically based system of planets going around the sun. He attended various European universities, and became a Canon in the Catholic church in 1497. His new system was actually first presented in the Vatican gardens in 1533 before Pope Clement VII who approved, and urged Copernicus to publish it around this time. Copernicus was never under any threat of religious persecution - and was urged to publish both by Catholic Bishop Guise, Cardinal Schonberg, and the Protestant Professor George Rheticus. Copernicus referred sometimes to God in his works, and did not see his system as in conflict with the Bible.


Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1627)
Bacon was a philosopher who is known for establishing the scientific method of inquiry based on experimentation and inductive reasoning. In De Interpretatione Naturae Prooemium, Bacon established his goals as being the discovery of truth, service to his country, and service to the church. Although his work was based upon experimentation and reasoning, he rejected atheism as being the result of insufficient depth of philosophy, stating, "It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion; for while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity." (Of Atheism)

Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)
Kepler was a brilliant mathematician and astronomer. He did early work on light, and established the laws of planetary motion about the sun. He also came close to reaching the Newtonian concept of universal gravity - well before Newton was born! His introduction of the idea of force in astronomy changed it radically in a modern direction. Kepler was an extremely sincere and pious Lutheran, whose works on astronomy contain writings about how space and the heavenly bodies represent the Trinity. Kepler suffered no persecution for his open avowal of the sun-centered system, and, indeed, was allowed as a Protestant to stay in Catholic Graz as a Professor (1595-1600) when other Protestants had been expelled!


Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo is often remembered for his conflict with the Roman Catholic Church. His controversial work on the solar system was published in 1633. It had no proofs of a sun-centered system (Galileo's telescope discoveries did not indicate a moving earth) and his one "proof" based upon the tides was invalid. It ignored the correct elliptical orbits of planets published twenty five years earlier by Kepler. Since his work finished by putting the Pope's favorite argument in the mouth of the simpleton in the dialogue, the Pope (an old friend of Galileo's) was very offended. After the "trial" and being forbidden to teach the sun-centered system, Galileo did his most useful theoretical work, which was on dynamics. Galileo expressly said that the Bible cannot err, and saw his system as an alternate interpretation of the biblical texts.

Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
Descartes was a French mathematician, scientist and philosopher who has been called the father of modern philosophy. His school studies made him dissatisfied with previous philosophy: He had a deep religious faith as a Roman Catholic, which he retained to his dying day, along with a resolute, passionate desire to discover the truth. At the age of 24 he had a dream, and felt the vocational call to seek to bring knowledge together in one system of thought. His system began by asking what could be known if all else were doubted - suggesting the famous "I think therefore I am". Actually, it is often forgotten that the next step for Descartes was to establish the near certainty of the existence of God - for only if God both exists and would not want us to be deceived by our experiences - can we trust our senses and logical thought processes. God is, therefore, central to his whole philosophy. What he really wanted to see was that his philosophy be adopted as standard Roman Catholic teaching. Rene Descartes and Francis Bacon (1561-1626) are generally regarded as the key figures in the development of scientific methodology. Both had systems in which God was important, and both seem more devout than the average for their era.

Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
In optics, mechanics, and mathematics, Newton was a figure of undisputed genius and innovation. In all his science (including chemistry) he saw mathematics and numbers as central. What is less well known is that he was devoutly religious and saw numbers as involved in understanding God's plan for history from the Bible. He did a considerable work on biblical numerology, and, though aspects of his beliefs were not orthodox, he thought theology was very important. In his system of physics, God is essential to the nature and absoluteness of space. In Principia he stated, "The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being."

Robert Boyle (1791-1867)
One of the founders and key early members of the Royal Society, Boyle gave his name to "Boyle's Law" for gases, and also wrote an important work on chemistry. Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "By his will he endowed a series of Boyle lectures, or sermons, which still continue, 'for proving the Christian religion against notorious infidels, ' As a devout Protestant, Boyle took a special interest in promoting the Christian religion abroad, giving money to translate and publish the New Testament into Irish and Turkish. In 1690 he developed his theological views in The Christian Virtuoso, which he wrote to show that the study of nature was a central religious duty." Boyle wrote against atheists in his day (the notion that atheism is a modern invention is a myth), and was clearly much more devoutly Christian than the average in his era.

Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
Michael Faraday was the son of a blacksmith who became one of the greatest scientists of the 19th century. His work on electricity and magnetism not only revolutionized physics, but led to much of our lifestyles today, which depends on them (including computers and telephone lines and, so, web sites). Faraday was a devoutly Christian member of the Sandemanians, which significantly influenced him and strongly affected the way in which he approached and interpreted nature. Originating from Presbyterians, the Sandemanians rejected the idea of state churches, and tried to go back to a New Testament type of Christianity.


Gregor Mendel (1822-1884)
Mendel was the first to lay the mathematical foundations of genetics, in what came to be called "Mendelianism". He began his research in 1856 (three years before Darwin published his Origin of Species) in the garden of the Monastery in which he was a monk. Mendel was elected Abbot of his Monastery in 1868. His work remained comparatively unknown until the turn of the century, when a new generation of botanists began finding similar results and "rediscovered" him (though their ideas were not identical to his). An interesting point is that the 1860's was notable for formation of the X-Club, which was dedicated to lessening religious influences and propagating an image of "conflict" between science and religion. One sympathizer was Darwin's cousin Francis Galton, whose scientific interest was in genetics (a proponent of eugenics - selective breeding among humans to "improve" the stock). He was writing how the "priestly mind" was not conducive to science while, at around the same time, an Austrian monk was making the breakthrough in genetics. The rediscovery of the work of Mendel came too late to affect Galton's contribution.

William Thomson Kelvin (1824-1907)
Kelvin was foremost among the small group of British scientists who helped to lay the foundations of modern physics. His work covered many areas of physics, and he was said to have more letters after his name than anyone else in the Commonwealth, since he received numerous honorary degrees from European Universities, which recognized the value of his work. He was a very committed Christian, who was certainly more religious than the average for his era. Interestingly, his fellow physicists George Gabriel Stokes (1819-1903) and James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879) were also men of deep Christian commitment, in an era when many were nominal, apathetic, or anti-Christian. The Encyclopedia Britannica says "Maxwell is regarded by most modern physicists as the scientist of the 19th century who had the greatest influence on 20th century physics; he is ranked with Sir Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein for the fundamental nature of his contributions." Lord Kelvin was an Old Earth creationist, who estimated the Earth's age to be somewhere between 20 million and 100 million years, with an upper limit at 500 million years based on cooling rates (a low estimate due to his lack of knowledge about radiogenic heating).


Max Planck (1858-1947)
Planck made many contributions to physics, but is best known for quantum theory, which revolutionized our understanding of the atomic and sub-atomic worlds. In his 1937 lecture "Religion and Naturwissenschaft," Planck expressed the view that God is everywhere present, and held that "the holiness of the unintelligible Godhead is conveyed by the holiness of symbols." Atheists, he thought, attach too much importance to what are merely symbols. Planck was a churchwarden from 1920 until his death, and believed in an almighty, all-knowing, beneficent God (though not necessarily a personal one). Both science and religion wage a "tireless battle against skepticism and dogmatism, against unbelief and superstition" with the goal "toward God!"

Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."



http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by Nobody: 9:20am On Sep 28, 2011
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Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by mazaje(m): 10:22am On Sep 28, 2011
frosbel:

Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543)
Copernicus was the Polish astronomer who put forward the first mathematically based system of planets going around the sun. He attended various European universities, and became a Canon in the Catholic church in 1497. His new system was actually first presented in the Vatican gardens in 1533 before Pope Clement VII who approved, and urged Copernicus to publish it around this time. Copernicus was never under any threat of religious persecution - and was urged to publish both by Catholic Bishop Guise, Cardinal Schonberg, and the Protestant Professor George Rheticus. Copernicus referred sometimes to God in his works, and did not see his system as in conflict with the Bible.


Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1627)
Bacon was a philosopher who is known for establishing the scientific method of inquiry based on experimentation and inductive reasoning. In De Interpretatione Naturae Prooemium, Bacon established his goals as being the discovery of truth, service to his country, and service to the church. Although his work was based upon experimentation and reasoning, he rejected atheism as being the result of insufficient depth of philosophy, stating, "It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion; for while the mind of man looketh upon second causes scattered, it may sometimes rest in them, and go no further; but when it beholdeth the chain of them confederate, and linked together, it must needs fly to Providence and Deity." (Of Atheism)

Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)
Kepler was a brilliant mathematician and astronomer. He did early work on light, and established the laws of planetary motion about the sun. He also came close to reaching the Newtonian concept of universal gravity - well before Newton was born! His introduction of the idea of force in astronomy changed it radically in a modern direction. Kepler was an extremely sincere and pious Lutheran, whose works on astronomy contain writings about how space and the heavenly bodies represent the Trinity. Kepler suffered no persecution for his open avowal of the sun-centered system, and, indeed, was allowed as a Protestant to stay in Catholic Graz as a Professor (1595-1600) when other Protestants had been expelled!


Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Galileo is often remembered for his conflict with the Roman Catholic Church. His controversial work on the solar system was published in 1633. It had no proofs of a sun-centered system (Galileo's telescope discoveries did not indicate a moving earth) and his one "proof" based upon the tides was invalid. It ignored the correct elliptical orbits of planets published twenty five years earlier by Kepler. Since his work finished by putting the Pope's favorite argument in the mouth of the simpleton in the dialogue, the Pope (an old friend of Galileo's) was very offended. After the "trial" and being forbidden to teach the sun-centered system, Galileo did his most useful theoretical work, which was on dynamics. Galileo expressly said that the Bible cannot err, and saw his system as an alternate interpretation of the biblical texts.

Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
Descartes was a French mathematician, scientist and philosopher who has been called the father of modern philosophy. His school studies made him dissatisfied with previous philosophy: He had a deep religious faith as a Roman Catholic, which he retained to his dying day, along with a resolute, passionate desire to discover the truth. At the age of 24 he had a dream, and felt the vocational call to seek to bring knowledge together in one system of thought. His system began by asking what could be known if all else were doubted - suggesting the famous "I think therefore I am". Actually, it is often forgotten that the next step for Descartes was to establish the near certainty of the existence of God - for only if God both exists and would not want us to be deceived by our experiences - can we trust our senses and logical thought processes. God is, therefore, central to his whole philosophy. What he really wanted to see was that his philosophy be adopted as standard Roman Catholic teaching. Rene Descartes and Francis Bacon (1561-1626) are generally regarded as the key figures in the development of scientific methodology. Both had systems in which God was important, and both seem more devout than the average for their era.

Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
In optics, mechanics, and mathematics, Newton was a figure of undisputed genius and innovation. In all his science (including chemistry) he saw mathematics and numbers as central. What is less well known is that he was devoutly religious and saw numbers as involved in understanding God's plan for history from the Bible. He did a considerable work on biblical numerology, and, though aspects of his beliefs were not orthodox, he thought theology was very important. In his system of physics, God is essential to the nature and absoluteness of space. In Principia he stated, "The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being."

Robert Boyle (1791-1867)
One of the founders and key early members of the Royal Society, Boyle gave his name to "Boyle's Law" for gases, and also wrote an important work on chemistry. Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "By his will he endowed a series of Boyle lectures, or sermons, which still continue, 'for proving the Christian religion against notorious infidels, ' As a devout Protestant, Boyle took a special interest in promoting the Christian religion abroad, giving money to translate and publish the New Testament into Irish and Turkish. In 1690 he developed his theological views in The Christian Virtuoso, which he wrote to show that the study of nature was a central religious duty." Boyle wrote against atheists in his day (the notion that atheism is a modern invention is a myth), and was clearly much more devoutly Christian than the average in his era.

Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
Michael Faraday was the son of a blacksmith who became one of the greatest scientists of the 19th century. His work on electricity and magnetism not only revolutionized physics, but led to much of our lifestyles today, which depends on them (including computers and telephone lines and, so, web sites). Faraday was a devoutly Christian member of the Sandemanians, which significantly influenced him and strongly affected the way in which he approached and interpreted nature. Originating from Presbyterians, the Sandemanians rejected the idea of state churches, and tried to go back to a New Testament type of Christianity.


Gregor Mendel (1822-1884)
Mendel was the first to lay the mathematical foundations of genetics, in what came to be called "Mendelianism". He began his research in 1856 (three years before Darwin published his Origin of Species) in the garden of the Monastery in which he was a monk. Mendel was elected Abbot of his Monastery in 1868. His work remained comparatively unknown until the turn of the century, when a new generation of botanists began finding similar results and "rediscovered" him (though their ideas were not identical to his). An interesting point is that the 1860's was notable for formation of the X-Club, which was dedicated to lessening religious influences and propagating an image of "conflict" between science and religion. One sympathizer was Darwin's cousin Francis Galton, whose scientific interest was in genetics (a proponent of eugenics - selective breeding among humans to "improve" the stock). He was writing how the "priestly mind" was not conducive to science while, at around the same time, an Austrian monk was making the breakthrough in genetics. The rediscovery of the work of Mendel came too late to affect Galton's contribution.

William Thomson Kelvin (1824-1907)
Kelvin was foremost among the small group of British scientists who helped to lay the foundations of modern physics. His work covered many areas of physics, and he was said to have more letters after his name than anyone else in the Commonwealth, since he received numerous honorary degrees from European Universities, which recognized the value of his work. He was a very committed Christian, who was certainly more religious than the average for his era. Interestingly, his fellow physicists George Gabriel Stokes (1819-1903) and James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879) were also men of deep Christian commitment, in an era when many were nominal, apathetic, or anti-Christian. The Encyclopedia Britannica says "Maxwell is regarded by most modern physicists as the scientist of the 19th century who had the greatest influence on 20th century physics; he is ranked with Sir Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein for the fundamental nature of his contributions." Lord Kelvin was an Old Earth creationist, who estimated the Earth's age to be somewhere between 20 million and 100 million years, with an upper limit at 500 million years based on cooling rates (a low estimate due to his lack of knowledge about radiogenic heating).


Max Planck (1858-1947)
Planck made many contributions to physics, but is best known for quantum theory, which revolutionized our understanding of the atomic and sub-atomic worlds. In his 1937 lecture "Religion and Naturwissenschaft," Planck expressed the view that God is everywhere present, and held that "the holiness of the unintelligible Godhead is conveyed by the holiness of symbols." Atheists, he thought, attach too much importance to what are merely symbols. Planck was a churchwarden from 1920 until his death, and believed in an almighty, all-knowing, beneficent God (though not necessarily a personal one). Both science and religion wage a "tireless battle against skepticism and dogmatism, against unbelief and superstition" with the goal "toward God!"

Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."



http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html


Frosbel has gone nuts. . . . . grin grin. . .I though you said that Atheists & Catholics have the same Father whose name is Satan? Over 70 percent of the people whose names you have there are catholics. . . .Why are you listing them as scientist that believe in God? grin grin since by your words satan is their father. . . .Why are you including the name of Albert Einstein? A person that wrote that the Christain stories are fables and believes NOT in the same God as you but believes that the universe is God?. . . . .

What about Francis Collin? You fail to mention that he is a strong propnent of the Big B[i]a[/i]ng and evolution as well. . . .He does NOT believe in intelligent design but strongly advocates that humans and everything evolved. . . .Is that what the bible tells you?. . . .You are a joke. . . .
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:31am On Sep 28, 2011
We thank God that Dr. Francis Collins now believes in the Uncreated Creator but he still has some way to go as he is still on a journey to knowing the truth.  None of the scientists you listed earlier would dear say that God used evolution to create the universe but with prayer and diligent studies I believe Collins will come to the full knowledge of truth.

Watch this video link and see how atheists laugh at those who think that they can eat their cake and keep having it.  It is either you believe in God or believe in 'evolution', to try and merge both together is an attempt at intellectual harakiri.

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Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by Nobody: 10:33am On Sep 28, 2011
Frosbel has gone nuts. . . . . Grin Grin. . .I though you said that Atheists & Catholics have the same Father whose name is Satan? Over 70 percent of the people whose names you have there are catholics. . . .Why are you listing them as scientist that believe in God?  Grin Grin since by your words satan is their father. . . .Why are you including the name of Albert Einstein? A person that wrote that the Christain stories are fables and believes NOT in the same God as you but believes that the universe is God?. . . . .

What about Francis Collin? You fail to mention that he is a strong propnent of the Big slam and evolution as well. . . .He does NOT believe in intelligent design but strongly advocates that humans and everything evolved. . . .Is that what the bible tells you?. . . .You are a joke. . . .



Again , you got hyperactive and replied without a patient read of the article.


The title of article is Believe in GOD or a GOD.

Where did you see Christianity mentioned ?

You shot yourself in the foot here  grin


To the next question, watch the video and I hope this should suffice for now !!!
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by harakiri(m): 10:38am On Sep 28, 2011
@mazaje,That Frosbel character is a pathetic nutcase. Lmao.
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by mazaje(m): 10:39am On Sep 28, 2011
frosbel:



Again , you got hyperactive and replied without a patient read of the article.


The title of article is Believe in GOD or a GOD.

Where did you see Christianity mentioned ?

You shot yourself in the foot here  grin


To the next question, watch the video and I hope this should suffice for now !!!

It is you that has shot yourself in the foot, you said that catholics and atheist have the same father called Satan and yet, here you are providing a list that is made up of over 70 percent catholics as a list of scientist that believe in God, you should change the tittle to a list of scientist that believe in Satan since according to your words catholics and atheist both believe in the same thing which is Satan. . . .
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by Nobody: 10:40am On Sep 28, 2011
mazaje,That Frosbel character is a pathetic nutcase. Lmao.

Keep running away from debating me, I have responded to your foolish nonsense you have spewed out in the name of logic, more like gibberish , in not a few articles.

Come back , let me deal you a fatal blow  grin grin
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by Nobody: 10:42am On Sep 28, 2011
mazaje:

It is you that has shot yourself in the foot, you said that catholics and atheist have the same father called Satan and yet, here you are providing a list that is made up of over 70 percent catholics as a list of scientist that believe in God, you should change the tittle to a list of scientist that believe in Satan since according to your words catholics and atheist both believe in the same thing which is Satan. . . .

If this is the inference you derived from my article, I have to quickly enroll you on an English Grammar revision course . Don't worry about the money , I will pay for you. grin

Keep dancing with your atheist jokes and made up fables. The demons are also dancing with you, leading you to the edge of the cliff where , God forbid , many atheists have fallen to their doom !!!
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by UyiIredia(m): 10:42am On Sep 28, 2011
@ frosbel >>> Your list is accurate except for Einstein. Einstein was definitely not a theist.  He equated God with the orderly system of the universe. Strike him (Einstein) off that list
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by mazaje(m): 10:44am On Sep 28, 2011
frosbel:

If this is the inference you derived from my article, I have to quickly enroll you on an English Grammar revision course . Don't worry about the money , I will pay for you.

Do catholics and atheist have the same father called Satan yes or no?. . .
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by Nobody: 10:47am On Sep 28, 2011
^^

Please don't add your name to the list of thread derailers, stick to the post.

You see this is what Muslims do, they have no rebuttal in place, so they start attacking the messenger , lol.   grin

Abeg go back to sleep !!!
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:01am On Sep 28, 2011
Uyi Iredia:

@ frosbel >>> Your list is accurate except for Einstein. Einstein was definitely not a theist.  He equated God with the orderly system of the universe. Strike him (Einstein) off that list

I know that many atheists use Albert Einstein to show that atheism is 'intellectual' and claimed that he was an atheist or even a deist but let us read from what he wrote to see what he stood for.

This is what Albert Einstein wrote about faith:

"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God.  But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views."

His views about science:   

"Science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued with inspiration toward truth and understanding.  This source of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of Religion.  To this there also belongs the faith in the possibility that the regulations valid for the world of existence are rational, that is, comprehensible to reason.  I cannot conceive of a genuine scientist without that profound faith."

I think Albert Einstein certainly believe in God and was not an atheist as people would like us to believe.
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by mazaje(m): 11:03am On Sep 28, 2011
frosbel:

^^

Please don't add your name to the list of thread derailers, stick to the post.

You see this is what Muslims do, they have no rebuttal in place, so they start attacking the messenger , lol.   grin

Abeg go back to sleep !!!

How am I attacking you? Were you not the person that said atheist and catholics have the same father? Is that statement correct? That's all am asking you. . .
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by harakiri(m): 11:09am On Sep 28, 2011
@frosbel, What are you talking about? Whenever I try having a discussion with you, you keep shelling out deluded nonsensities and you expect me to put up with your senseless rants? If I ignored your tantrums, it's because I don't have to patience to debate with an individual who obviously lacks the mental capacity to think independently for himself. All he knows is what he was told and he chooses to rather die an indoctrinated religious zombie rather than take a minute to reflect on what his faith really is. Wetin I wan follow you dey yan sef?
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by debosky(m): 11:14am On Sep 28, 2011
@ Frosbel

Just a clarification - when you say 'believed in God', what exactly do you mean?

If you mean 'God' as in the Supreme Being - you may also add Muslims to that list no?

If you mean Christians (that is those that believe in Jesus), then can you provide evidence that Einstein was a Christian? I had the impression he was a Jew.

PS: I don't know why Ola is intent on carrying his 'creationist' wahala into each and every thread - that isn't what this thread is about.
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:18am On Sep 28, 2011
mazaje:


Frosbel has gone nuts. . . . . grin grin. . .I though you said that Atheists & Catholics have the same Father whose name is Satan? Over 70 percent of the people whose names you have there are catholics. . . .Why are you listing them as scientist that believe in God? grin grin since by your words satan is their father. . . .Why are you including the name of Albert Einstein? A person that wrote that the Christain stories are fables and believes NOT in the same God as you but believes that the universe is God?. . . . .

What about Francis Collin? You fail to mention that he is a strong propnent of the Big B[i]a[/i]ng and evolution as well. . . .He does NOT believe in intelligent design but strongly advocates that humans and everything evolved. . . .Is that what the bible tells you?. . . .You are a joke. . . .

It is said that the RCC persecuted Christians and those who stood for biblical truth as they are still doing today. The topic at hand is famous scientists who believed in God and a case can be made that all those scientists listed by frosbel all believed in God, and I mean the God of the Bible.
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by Nobody: 11:24am On Sep 28, 2011
I try having a discussion with you, you keep shelling out deluded nonsensities and you expect me to put up with your senseless rants?

Don't debate with me. I have no time for angry people. But I have read through your posts, and they are so elementary as to not warrant any logical response.

If I ignored your tantrums, it's because I don't have to patience to debate with an individual who obviously lacks the mental capacity to think independently for himself.

I have no tantrums  grin grin

I have only succeeded in bringing out the major vice you have which is misplaced aggression and unnecessary ire.


ll he knows is what he was told and he chooses to rather die an indoctrinated religious zombie rather than take a minute to reflect on what his faith really is.

I really doubt your ability to partake in proper and informed debates. Stick to your beer parlor arguments.
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:30am On Sep 28, 2011
These and many other great scientists have believed the Bible as the infallible Word of God, and it was their faith that was the driving force and intellectual foundation of their excellent scientific work.

Real Scientists Who Believe In God

Most of the great scientists of the past who founded and developed the key disciplines of science were biblical Christians who were creationists.  Note the following sampling:

Physics:  Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Kelvin

Chemistry: Boyle, Dalton, Pascal, Ramsay

Biology: Ray, Linnaeus, Mendel, Pasteur

Geology: Steno, Woodward, Brewster, Agassiz

Astronomy: Kepler, Galileo, Herschel, Maunder

"These men, as well as scores of others who could be mentioned, were creationists, not evolutionists, and their names are practically synonymous with the rise of modern science.  To them, the scientific enterprise was a high calling, one dedicated to thinking God's thoughts after Him."

-- A creationist and theologian, Henry Morris and Gary E. Parker, What is Creation Science?

Here is another quote from Arthur H. Compton, winner of Nobel Prize in Physics:

"Science is the glimpse of God's purpose in nature.  The very existence of the amazing world of the atom and radiation points to a purposeful creation, to the idea that there is a God and an intelligent purpose back of everything . . . An orderly universe testifies to the greatest statement ever uttered: 'In the beginning, God . . .'" 

Johann Kepler:

"The chief aim of all investigation of the external world should be to discover the rational order and harmony which has been imposed on it by God."

Lord Kelvin: 

"With regard to the origin of life, science . . . positively affirms creative power."

Sir Isaac Newton: 

"All material things seem to have been composed of the hard and solid particles above mentioned, variously associated in the first creation by the counsel of an intelligent Agent.  For it became Him who created them to set them in order.  And if He did so, it's unphilosophical to seek for any other origin of the world, or to pretend that it might arise out of a chaos by the mere laws of nature."

"An increasing number of scientists, most particularly a growing number of evolutionists . . . argue that Darwinian evolutionary theory is no genuine scientific theory at all . . . Many of the critics have the highest intellectual credentials."

-- Michael Ruse, "Darwin's Theory: An Exercise in Science," New Scientist
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by mazaje(m): 11:32am On Sep 28, 2011
debosky:

@ Frosbel

Just a clarification - when you say 'believed in God', what exactly do you mean?

If you mean 'God' as in the Supreme Being - you may also add Muslims to that list no?

If you mean Christians (that is those that believe in Jesus), then can you provide evidence that Einstein was a Christian? I had the impression he was a Jew.

PS: I don't know why Ola is intent on carrying his 'creationist' wahala into each and every thread - that isn't what this thread is about.
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by mazaje(m): 11:35am On Sep 28, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

It is said that the RCC persecuted Christians and those who stood for biblical truth as they are still doing today. The topic at hand is famous scientists who believed in God and a case can be made that all those scientists listed by frosbel all believed in God, and I mean the God of the Bible.


False not all of them believed in the God of the bible. . . .Majority of them are catholics a sect you and frosbel believe are not really christians, so what exactly is your point?. . .
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by Nobody: 11:46am On Sep 28, 2011
debosky:

@ Frosbel

Just a clarification - when you say 'believed in God', what exactly do you mean?

I mean that the earth and universe are not products of chance but GOD. 

So while not everyone agrees with the Muslims God, Christian God, Hindu god etc, we have a starting point which is , GOD is behind the precise patterning of the world in which we live.

It is too much in rhythm and harmony to have come about as a result of some previous random explosion


If you mean 'God' as in the Supreme Being - you may also add Muslims to that list no?

Hmm, where did I say Muslims do not believe in a God. Trying to put words in my mouth , right  undecided

Obviously the Muslims are wiser than atheists by millions of miles in my opinion , since they agree with the truth that the world is a product of creation and not chance.


If you mean Christians (that is those that believe in Jesus), then can you provide evidence that Einstein was a Christian? I had the impression he was a Jew.

Uhmmm, we seem to be going round in circles here. This topic is not about Christianity as you might have imagined from the article, it is about the belief in a GOD or GOD


Besides, and let me make this clear, the fact that we all believe in GOD or a GOD does not necessarily mean that we believe in the same GOD. Let's leave it at that !!
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by harakiri(m): 12:06pm On Sep 28, 2011
@frosbel, You are really a piece of work. You say my posts are "elementary" and I wonder when using up nairaland's bandwith with senseless threads and unecessary long posts because the hallmark of an intelligent discourse. Furthermore I use my phone most times to comment when I have the time and pardon me if I'm not able to provide "sources" or go the extra mile to type an encyclopedia to buttress my point. I make my points as brief,blunt,short and straight forward. If these are misinterpreted by you as "elementary", I can't be bothered. Those who appreciate simplicity get my points. As for labelling me as "angry", I'd love to see the look on your face when someone calls you a fool for being a Christian. You label me as an "angry" person and yet you are the same person that took it up as your sole responsibility to forment trouble in the Islamic section. You opened several hate threads there,cursed them out at every opportunity and accused them of being intolerant. . . You are the same person who can't tolerate non-religious people. You feel free to call us fools because your bible says so and YET, you can't accept the fact that Moslems declare fatwas and jihad because their Quran also tells them to do so. This is why I always call you a hypocrite. My post is as "elementary",basic and straight to the point and shouldn't be too hard for you or anyone else to understand. It's not about typing a novel,quoting research findings and theorems. It's about communicating (something that's obviously an uphill task for you). I'm not angry with you and anyone in particular but don't expect me to keep swallow your insults without a befitting response. You feel good calling people fools but you turn around to say the are prejudiced against you when they do the same. Talk about boundless hypocrisy of the highest order.
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:13pm On Sep 28, 2011
mazaje:

False not all of them believed in the God of the bible. . . .

Name one of those scientists listed that didn't believe in the God of the Bible and I will quote what the said about the God of the Bible.

mazaje:

Majority of them are catholics a sect you and frosbel believe are not really christians, so what exactly is your point?. . .

Religion and faith in the God are two different things.  One can practise religion without really having faith in God just like a lot of our folks who profess that there is God but live as if there is no God.  Scientists who believe in the God of the Bible would be able to make precise predictions based on the principles they got from the Bible.  Their assumptions for their models would be based on historical events recorded in the Bible, the global flood recorded in Genesis for instance.
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by mazaje(m): 12:17pm On Sep 28, 2011
frosbel:

I mean that the earth and universe are not products of chance but GOD. 

So while not everyone agrees with the Muslims God, Christian God, Hindu god etc, we have a starting point which is , GOD is behind the precise patterning of the world in which we live.

Do you have any evidence to show that this?. . .Why not Gods? Your evidence to show that the universe was created by a single entity and not many entities is WHAT?. . . .
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:25pm On Sep 28, 2011
mazaje:

Do you have any evidence to show that this?. . .Why not Gods? Your evidence to show that the universe was created by a single entity and not many entities is WHAT?. . . .

It is belief in the uncreated Creator who created those 'gods' you are referring to.
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by mazaje(m): 12:27pm On Sep 28, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

It is belief in the uncreated Creator who created those 'gods' you are referring to.

Your evidence to show that the universe was created by only one entity and not many entities is WHAT?
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by mazaje(m): 12:42pm On Sep 28, 2011
OLAADEGBU:

Name one of those scientists listed that didn't believe in the God of the Bible and I will quote what the said about the God of the Bible.


It is quite possible that we can do greater things than Jesus, for what is written in the Bible about him is poetically embellished.

— From W. I. Hermanns "A Talk with Einstein," October 1943, Einstein Archive 55-285

About God, I cannot accept any concept based on the authority of the Church. As long as I can remember, I have resented mass indocrination. I do not believe in the fear of life, in the fear of death, in blind faith. I cannot prove to you that there is no personal God, but if I were to speak of him, I would be a liar. I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil. My God created laws that take care of that. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but by immutable laws.

—W. Hermanns, Einstein and the Poet—In Search of the Cosmic Man (Branden Press, Brookline Village, Mass., 1983), p.132, quoted in Jammer, p.123.


Religion and faith in the God are two different things.  One can practise religion without really having faith in God just like a lot of our folks who profess that there is God but live as if there is no God.  Scientists who believe in the God of the Bible would be able to make precise predictions based on the principles they got from the Bible.  T[b]heir assumptions for their models would be based on historical events recorded in the Bible, the global flood recorded in Genesis for instance[/b].

The global flood remains a myth. . .The great pyramids of Egypt, for example dates to the 26th century B.C., 300 years before the biblical date for the Flood yet no sign in Egyptian inscriptions of this global flood around 2250 B.C. The Egyptians (among others) have written records dating well back before 2250 B.C, no?. . . .
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:47pm On Sep 28, 2011
mazaje:

Your evidence to show that the universe was created by only one entity and not many entities is WHAT?

My evidence is the law of 'cause and effect.'
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by Nobody: 1:24pm On Sep 28, 2011
This thread is interesting.

It is unfortunate that many who claim to be atheist take science as their religion. However science has nothing to do with atheism and scientists are not atheists. ( Although atheists can be scientists)

In the science world there are two broad opinion on the origin of life. Some scientists believe life is created while others believe life evolved. Both have used scientific evidences to prove their opinions. Leading in the creationist view are the molecular biologists and astronomers. Many natural and physical scientists tend towards evolution and the big bang theory.

Whenever you see a man shouting I believe in science and not in God, it is either one of two things either science is his religion of he is a fool. Anyone trying to equate science to atheism is just foolish at best.

I am a scientist myself and I do science at one of the highest levels of it. Some of my colleagues in evolution while some of us don't. We have had discussions on this topic many times. We always conclude with two views "science has not found answers to all questions" OR " science cannot answer all questions"

Interestingly some evolutionist believe there is a God just that they may not share the same opinion of God with the major religions in the world. I have actually met some them. So believe in God is not a case of a religious group, it is a case of recognising higher authority than . While atheism recognise the authority of man as the highest
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by Nobody: 1:26pm On Sep 28, 2011
This thread is interesting.

It is unfortunate that many who claim to be atheist take science as their religion. However science has nothing to do with atheism and scientists are not atheists. ( Although atheists can be scientists)

In the science world there are two broad opinion on the origin of life. Some scientists believe life is created while others believe life evolved. Both have used scientific evidences to prove their opinions. Leading in the creationist view are the molecular biologists and astronomers. Many natural and physical scientists tend towards evolution and the big slam theory.

Whenever you see a man shouting I believe in science and not in God, it is either one of two things either science is his religion of he is a fool. Anyone trying to equate science to atheism is just foolish at best.

I am a scientist myself and I do science at one of the highest levels of it. Some of my colleagues believe in evolution while some of us don't. We have had discussions on this topic many times. We always conclude with two views "science has not found answers to all questions" OR " science cannot answer all questions"

Interestingly some evolutionist believe there is a God just that they may not share the same opinion of God with the major religions in the world. I have actually met some them. So believe in God is not a case of a religious group, it is a case of recognising higher authority than man. While atheism recognise the authority of man as the highest.
Re: Famous Scientists Who Believed In God by debosky(m): 1:37pm On Sep 28, 2011
frosbel:

I mean that the earth and universe are not products of chance but GOD. 

So while not everyone agrees with the Muslims God, Christian God, Hindu god etc, we have a starting point which is , GOD is behind the precise patterning of the world in which we live.

It is too much in rhythm and harmony to have come about as a result of some previous random explosion

That's all I was trying to establish.


Hmm, where did I say Muslims do not believe in a God. Trying to put words in my mouth , right  undecided

Obviously the Muslims are wiser than atheists by millions of miles in my opinion , since they agree with the truth that the world is a product of creation and not chance.

Now why would I do that? I was just trying to establish the basis of your thread - the likes of Ola were already saying it is the 'God of the bible' and I wasn't sure if that was what you meant.


Uhmmm, we seem to be going round in circles here. This topic is not about Christianity as you might have imagined from the article, it is about the belief in a GOD or GOD

Good - the likes of Ola should take note and not derail.

I didn't imagine much, I just asked for clarification.


Besides, and let me make this clear, the fact that we all believe in GOD or a GOD does not necessarily mean that we believe in the same GOD. Let's leave it at that !!

Noted - again, your initial response was sufficient for me - I just wanted to make sure I understood what your purpose of the thread was, not what others were trying to make it into.

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