bobestman:
Lol. Are you not a spirit being even in your earthly form? You posses a body, soul and spirit. With your spirit you interact with the divine. Everything above is a spirit being and when they choose to manifest here they still possess a portion of that form.
The same person said the father is greater than him. He is one with him cos he is connected to him via his spirit. Once your mb (the source/spirit) finish or removed you no go fit brawse

Firstly, I am not a spirit being.
I am so flesh and blood (Physically physical).

The soul you are talking about is my consciousness ( and that basically is my thinking faculty🤣🤣🤣)

Charlie! I am not a spiritual being. There is no such thing as spiritual, i'ọtala?

AntiChristian:


Them be one later become two, then three abi?

Lol! This made me remember one of the songs by plantashun boiz that year. I think it was face

Dtruthspeaker:


See.crazed madness because you lack any reasonable thing to say after my answer.

Already, every reasonable person can see that you were mad in merging 2 different scenarios

in one scenarios Isaiah saw The Lord Jesus (One Person) on The Throne while in the second one, Stephen (Act 7:56) saw 2 people, The Lord Jesus standing by His Father, God.

Very very understandable.

But because you are a Muslim and and a devil and an antiGod and antiChrist, you are looking to create manufacture what is not there.

Very very understandable yet you can't explain how one became two then three!

It must be asexual reproduction by cell division lol!

AntiChristian:


Very very understandable yet you can't explain how one became two then three!

It must be asexual reproduction by cell division lol!

That is not the question you asked you asked "Who was on the throne? And who is standing beside the throne?"

And I have answered in Isaiah is The Lord Jesus (One Person) on The Throne while in Acts 7:56 it is, The Lord Jesus standing by His Father, God, Who is sitting on the Throne.

FRANCISTOWN:

This hasn't answered any questions at all. Please revisit the questions and answer appropriately

What exactly is your question?

SIRTee15:


Already answered. Check my previous mentions to u.

Is 'greater' comparatively usable between dissimilar things.

Nigeria is greater than New York, does that make sense?
Antichristian is antisense also.

[quote author=FRANCISTOWN post=125319009]

Firstly, I am not a spirit being.
I am so flesh and blood (Physically physical).

The soul you are talking about is my consciousness ( and that basically is my thinking faculty

You are a spirit being possessing a soul and a body for that was your first state before manifested here. Even the first man was that was why he could interact with the divine. But we lost that state cos of blindness. We would have been a high spirit being with a body and soul. The other gods/spirit being were jealous that is why they made him fall. My teachings are not for the weak and those blinded by religion

FRANCISTOWN:


You are welcome, okay!
Let's deal with the contradictions on this thread first of all...

Your fellow brethrens have tried to reconcile the inconsistencies of the Holy Trinity.

You may look thru my block on this thread, I don't want to re-type to re-ask again, let's avoid redundancy and repetitions.

Simply put, what's your stance about the Holy Trinity and the God person(s)?

I already answered the op.
Since u advocate for no unnecessary repetition, go thru my mentions on this thread.
I do hope your bible exegesis is strong. Trinity debate is not people with shallow knowledge of biblical doctrine.
As u can see, even antiChristian gassed out when I mentioned God enters his creation.

SIRTee15:


I already answered the op.
Since u advocate for no unnecessary repetition, go thru my mentions on this thread.
I do hope your bible exegesis is strong. Trinity debate is not people with shallow knowledge of biblical doctrine.
As u can see, even antiChristian gassed out when I mentioned God enters his creation.

I no gas out o!
I got busy and I never get your time!
God does not need to enter His creation to effect things!

22jumpstreet1:


what or who is 'a god'

In the Bible sense, God is the creator, the originator, self - sufficient, self - reliant, eternal, to whom alone all else revolve.
So?

FRANCISTOWN:


The picture you attached with your comment in a no small way explains the reason they don't have headache truly.

They've suspended their sense of reasoning until 59years after it hits them that, that white character can't do a thing for himself, not to talk of anyone.

They need a church, the members must contribute thru their nostrils. Can't their God make money rain from heaven, or make a whale vomit money the same way the disciples took money out of the fish in the Bible? 🤣🤣🤣.

Without further ado, though ado itself is a further. I have come to realise that, humans will force themselves to keep believing whatever they want to believe even if they aren't sure or such is without proof. Having to look for ways to believe in the existence of a god is the number proof that no such God exists.

If there was any God, it would be so evident that no one would be able to disprove it. If the sun and the moon couldn't be disproven, how much more a being called "God"?

The invention of jesus christ and christianity by the Roman empire was a way to bring the different pagan idols of the Roman empire under one umbrella of jesus christ/christianity and to make it look like the Jewish religion of judaism that is against idols. Now I have come to find out the hard way that 99% of the people following jesus christ are secretly into other forms of idol worship which they are using to control the gullible ones among them following the invented jesus christ. There was a guy on this forum that posted it here that his dad is a prayer warrior in their church but one day he found a dried bat in his dad's wardrobe and when the guy asked his dad why there was a bat in his wardrobe his dad just laughed and shook his head.  

All the religion from the Roman empire invented jesus christ are all a cover for idol worship. But all the religions before the Roman empire invented jesus christ and chritianity are true mistycal religions as the a local to the nations that practiced them and has around from when when other beings lived with people and taught them how to make fire, iron from the right sand and so on.

The beauty of Judaism which the Roman empire fell in live with was it literal nature and no statues in temples. So if one is looking for a true religion without bowing to an idol status then Judaism is the only true religion that portrays an Almighty God that does not dwell in idol statues like the other religions that have idol statues.

These are the images of what are still till today under the Vatican which is the first official church of jesus christ and chritianity.

bobestman:



Firstly, I am not a spirit being.
I am so flesh and blood (Physically physical).

The soul you are talking about is my consciousness ( and that basically is my thinking faculty

You are a spirit being possessing a soul and a body for that was your first state before manifested here. Even the first man was that was why he could interact with the divine. But we lost that state cos of blindness. We would have been a high spirit being with a body and soul. The other gods/spirit being were jealous that is why they made him fall. My teachings are not for the weak and those blinded by religion

Do you know me more than myself? You can call yourself a spirit, ghast or wraith which of course is fine with me because even as we speak, there hasn't been any evidence to corroborate the existence of any of the above mentioned.

There is no such thing as a spirit. Bring evidence or else you go explain tire.

Human is body and soul, nothing more.

BTW, what is your own definition of a spirit?

SIRTee15:


I already answered the op.
Since u advocate for no unnecessary repetition, go thru my mentions on this thread.
I do hope your bible exegesis is strong. Trinity debate is not people with shallow knowledge of biblical doctrine.
As u can see, even antiChristian gassed out when I mentioned God enters his creation.

Well! You indulged me.

Lemme ask again, what is your stance on the Holy Trinity?

Do you agree that it's 3 different people functioning as one, or one person functioning as three?

MindHacker9009:


The invention of jesus christ and christianity by the Roman empire was a way to bring the different pagan idols of the Roman empire under one umbrella of jesus christ/christianity and to make it look like the Jewish religion of judaism that is against idols. Now I have come to find out the hard way that 99% of the people following jesus christ are secretly into other forms of idol worship which they are using to control the gullible ones among them following the invented jesus christ. There was a guy on this forum that posted it here that his dad is a prayer warrior in their church but one day he found a dried bat in his dad's wardrobe and when the guy asked his dad why there was a bat in his wardrobe his dad just laughed and shook his head.  

All the religion from the Roman empire invented jesus christ are all a cover for idol worship. But all the religions before the Roman empire invented jesus christ and chritianity are true mistycal religions as the a local to the nations that practiced them and has around from when when other beings lived with people and taught them how to make fire, iron from the right sand and so on.

The beauty of Judaism which the Roman empire fell in live with was it literal nature and no statues in temples. So if one is looking for a true religion without bowing to an idol status then Judaism is the only true religion that portrays an Almighty God that does not dwell in idol statues like the other religions that have idol statues.

These are the images of what are still till today under the Vatican which is the first official church of jesus christ and chritianity.

Well, I do not believe in the existence of any form of god or gods therefore to me Christianity is just the same as Judaism, same as Islam, same as ethnic religions e.tc. All fake.

FRANCISTOWN:


Do you know me more than myself? You can call yourself a spirit, ghast or wraith which of course is fine with me because even as we speak, there hasn't been any evidence to corroborate the existence of any of the above mentioned.

There is no such thing as a spirit. Bring evidence or else you go explain tire.

Human is body and soul, nothing more.

BTW, what is your own definition of a spirit?

Hahaha na fear dey catch you. Your body is just a constume or cloth you put on whenever you have assignment here. Without it you can't function on this realm. Your soul is the real you. Ppl who are no more exist as such but your SPIRIT is the aspect of the Sovereign one within you. It is what give your soul and body life. It is what makes one a living soul. A body without a spirit is dead.

bobestman:
Hahaha na fear dey catch you. Your body is just a constume or cloth you put on whenever you have assignment here. Without it you can't function on this realm. Your soul is the real you. Ppl who are no more exist as such but your SPIRIT is the aspect of the Sovereign one within you. It is what give your soul and body life. It is what makes one a living soul. A body without a spirit is dead.

Well I don't have a spirit and I'm still alive. Where is your own spirit?

AntiChristian:


Did John 1:1 mention Jesus's name?

Does it mention Allah?

FRANCISTOWN:

Well I don't have a spirit and I'm still alive. Where is your own spirit?

Every being has. If you don't have then you must be an AI or morden day Alien but am afraid those 2 have force (spirit) controlling them.

bobestman:
Every being has. If you don't have then you must be an AI or morden day Alien but am afraid those 2 have force (spirit) controlling them.

You don't have a spirit, where is the proof of your spirit?

FRANCISTOWN:

Well! You indulged me.

Lemme ask again, what is your stance on the Holy Trinity?

Do you agree that it's 3 different people functioning as one, or one person functioning as three?

Did u check my previous explanation I don't do numbers with trinity.
I will only talk numbers with u if u want to play the game of numbers.

Trinity is one God- ONE BEING manifesting in three persons.
Now check my definition of being and person on this thread.
U would also do yourself a favour if u read up multiple personality disorder, because I know where your thought process will direct u.

FRANCISTOWN:

You don't have a spirit, where is the proof of your spirit?

Every living thing has a force controlling them. The force is the aspect of the one who made them. As an AI is controlled by the force who made it so you are controlled by the spirit of the one who made you. Without that spirit you are a dead soul. You sound like an athiest. This issue don't need to be argued. It is well known

MightySparrow:


In the Bible sense, God is the creator, the originator, self - sufficient, self - reliant, eternal, to whom alone all else revolve.
So?

what is it?

MaxInDHouse:


The funny thing about you is running from one place to another yet you have nobody to lean on because everyone on this forum including AntiChristian who's post you just quoted are all deluded to you.
Remember AntiChristian believe in Jesus of Nazareth o and his Qur'an acknowledged Jesus as a prophet of God.
So try to convince him that Jesus never existed or that he is not a prophet of Jehovah first.
Otherwise tell him also that he's deluded for believing that Jesus is a real prophet of God!

he is as confused as you are..

Islam and Christianity...same shit different toilet..

he has not even proved that Muhammad even existed...

SIRTee15:


Since u quote from the book of Isaiah, I will be using the book of Isaiah to prove Trinity.

Isaiah 48.
12 “Listen to me, Jacob,
Israel, whom I have called:
I am he;
I am the first and I am the last.
13 My own hand laid the foundations of the earth,
and my right hand spread out the heavens;
when I summon them,
they all stand up together.

14 “Come together, all of you, and listen:
Which of the idols has foretold these things?
The Lord’s chosen ally
will carry out his purpose against Babylon;
his arm will be against the Babylonians.[a]
15 I, even I, have spoken;
yes, I have called him.
I will bring him,
and he will succeed in his mission.

16 “Come near me and listen to this:

“From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret;
at the time it happens, I am there.”

And now the Sovereign Lord has sent me,
endowed with his Spirit.

17 This is what the Lord says—
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
“I am the Lord your God,
who teaches you what is best for you,
who directs you in the way you should go

This is God speaking in this passage but in v16 we noticed God speaking about LORD Almighty sending him.
If God is speaking, then who are “the Lord Gᴏᴅ” and “His Spirit” and “Me”? More confusing still is the fact the Lord God and the Holy Spirit sent the One who is called the First and the Last—the One who laid the foundation of the earth.

Clearly, all three of these entities are God. Isaiah unveiled all three Persons of the Godhead: “the Lord Gᴏᴅ,” referring to the Father; “His Spirit,” referring to the Holy Spirit; and “Me,” referring to the speaker, who later identifies Himself as the “Redeemer” (v. 17). Thus the speaker is the Messiah.

Let's look at another passage in Isaiah chapter 42

the basic problem with Christians is that they don't read in context..

they try their best to make a writing say what it is not saying...

it was Isaiah speaking. He was referring to himself, there is nothing there to suggest what you are making it say...

SIRTee15:


Messianic or divinity claim didn't start with Jesus and wouldn't end with him.
People will always believe what they want to believe.

The answer to your response is in the book of acts 5 and Deuteronomy 13.

33 When they heard this, they were furious and wanted to put them to death. 34 But a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law, who was honored by all the people, stood up in the Sanhedrin and ordered that the men be put outside for a little while. 35 Then he addressed the Sanhedrin: “Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men. 36 Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. 37 After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered. 38 Therefore, in the present case I advise you:[b] Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. 39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; [/b]you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”



Deuteronomy 13
If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him

Jesus falls in the same category..that's why i reject him..

22jumpstreet1:


Jesus falls in the same category..that's why i reject him..

Then you ve not read the new testament.

22jumpstreet1:


what is it?

It is what?

22jumpstreet1:

he is as confused as you are..
Islam and Christianity...same shit different toilet.. he has not even proved that Muhammad even existed...

So that takes you back to square one.

You're just running up and down your god has no visible worshipers.

Don't you think you're just worshiping yourself?

Oh! Now i remember you once said you're god having human experience.

Well keep searching for those that will worship you i wish you Jonathan+Goodluck!

bobestman:
Every living thing has a force controlling them. The force is the aspect of the one who made them. As an AI is controlled by the force who made it so you are controlled by the spirit of the one who made you. Without that spirit you are a dead soul . You sound like an athiest. This issue don't need to be argued. It is well known

Lol! So you mean, that force is responsible for whatever I do. It's the same force what makes me brush my teeth and have my bath in the morning?

It's the same force pushing terrorists and kidnappers and armed robbers and scammers and wicked politicians?

It's the same force that is making thousands of people embark on a journey they'll never return?

Okay! By the way.

No force is pushing me, I don't know if you've got any pushing you.

My life and decisions are basically my responsibility.

I decide what I do and not do.

I ask again, where is the proof of that spirit that you are talking about?

SIRTee15:

Trinity is one God- ONE BEING manifesting in three persons.

Good one.
Are they equal?

FRANCISTOWN:


Good one.
Are they equal?

Guy it's the same thing. It's like asking if your soul, spirit and body are equal.
They all posses the same divine essence.

SIRTee15:


Guy it's the same thing. It's like asking if your soul, spirit and body are equal.
They all posses the same divine essence.

Lol, homoousios won.