NzogbuNzogbu:
I am saying there is nothing like this in the Bible.

I only came across this in the so called lost books of Solomon which are writing not in the bible

but the informations in the bible were drawn from the lost books na....

He actually ruined this thread with that needless lie. I was enjoying the historical information thread untill he used his hands to derail it.

tishbite42:

Lol
Look at this liar who claimed to be Igbo
Carry your yeye Bini thread comot for here
Overhyped pple

Timetravel88:


Continue blaming them and don’t learn how to move forward. The China you see today was once under Japanese imperialism, even Spain (Iberian peninsula) that African migrants run to today was under Arab rule (the Moors) for 700 years. Today Spain is a force to reckon with in the world. Black Africa especially Nigeria will continue crying about white man being bad while their Black inept leaders continue to lead them into penury. Rubbish!

You dey mind the foolish ppl?
Blacks are so childish, that they can believe Wakanda, a Comic movie is real.

musicwriter:
As we Africans were the first people to inhabit the world, we are the originators of what would later be called science and technology...... even God, language, learning, etc.
The problem is that everything we invented has been used to enslave us, such that we no longer know our powers.

Rubbish.

Quit smoking dey weed.

[quote author=SuccessfulRichi post=125952190][/quote]

Crap.

They destroyed Africa 's self believe, but they did not destroy their overblown Ego and high tendency to be corrupt?

Ajsmart:
To enslave a man, you only need to mis-educate his mind and the rest of his body, will and might will follow with zero hesitation.
A perfect example of this is when the British taught our people that local language spoken in your own community is vernacular. That simple mis-education has created millions of inferior-minded individuals who look to their foreign gods to determine the rest of the course of their life.

2nd example is how they brainwashed Africans that a wyte man died for their sins and that wyte man will come back someday to take the Africans to heaven. That ideology is called Christianity!

Rubbish.

When you have children or if you already have don't send them to school afterall school was brought by the slave masters to enslave us.

Let them stay at home and become aduio doctors and engineers

Clown.

blueAgent:


You dey mind the foolish ppl?
Blacks are so childish, that they can believe Wakanda, a Comic movie is real.

kiki....

Razgas:
A quick search of posts of any Tinubu supporter is filled with insults of Obi and his supporters. But you are the one right and peaceful while Obi and his supporters are evil. You don't assassinate Obi's character when you call him ipob. But Tinubu who actually forfeited money to U.S on drug charges is having his character assassinated.

Of course we know you are not Igbo. No real Igbo person would think that Middle belt and SS people who voted Obi are IPOB.
We also know you don't want a detribalised Nigeria otherwise why call an Igbo politician who killed many Biafran activists, owns businesses in Lagos and Abuja and built a national movement within 6 months 'IPOB'
I will tell you this, the evil you wish for Igbos is what you and your family members will meet in this life...since after all, you claim to be Igbo.

Bro pls leave that liar.
The guy is camouflaging as a non-tribalist and as an Igbo.
He is a core hater of Obidents for no reason....he either defends or ignores the insult of APC gang but comes on fire whenever Obidents are involved who he tags as Ipob.
So he accusses IPOB of unverifiable crimes of all sorts.


He started a fine post but wants to spoil it with lies, hatred and unguarded self 'wisdom'.

JuanDeDios:

Yes.

Then one of the purposes of the wall (fending off islamic mauruders) was not fully achieved.

ruffhandu:


Then one of the purposes of the wall (fending off islamic mauruders) was not fully achieved.

The moat covered Ole Edo (Benin City), the HQ of the kingdom. It did not cover Benin Kingdom – which was quite extensive.

Timetravel88:


Continue blaming them and don’t learn how to move forward. The China you see today was once under Japanese imperialism, even Spain (Iberian peninsula) that African migrants run to today was under Arab rule (the Moors) for 700 years. Today Spain is a force to reckon with in the world. Black Africa especially Nigeria will continue crying about white man being bad while their Black inept leaders continue to lead them into penury. Rubbish!

People like you only sees the black people's problem from the surface only. China was already a nation that developed their writing forms,religion, calligraphy etc.before Japanese and other nations incursions.

Except for Taiwan,is old china divided or incorporated with another tribe? or the official Mandarin language is a foreign lingua franca? Imagine knowledge passed on from generations to generations when their Indigenous alphabets is not lost. Go and read about innovations Marco Polo introduced to Europe on his return from China

Are you also saying the Romans or Moors influence did not count in Spain development? Do we have Moors influence in Black Africa? For over 5 centuries Latin was the official language of Europe, even Isaac Newton, the father of physics, wrote all his books in Latin. Look at informations/knowledge shared among Europeans for 500 years. People do wonderfully well in nation building when they have values in common

I am repeating again that we lost it all the day we came in contact with white people. I don't know what an hausa man have in common with a Yoruba or an Igbo man. If their trans atlantic coming was deferred to probably like 200 years after, we would have fought our wars and evolved better. Just like China and other nations evolved. By now stronger nations would have assimilated the weaker ones to have fewer tribes and true African Nations with shared values.

Rossikk:


I have NEVER been a tribalist.

I am Igbo, and I hate IPOB, and all traitors of Nigeria of whatever ethnic colouration, including Boko Haram.

IPOB and Boko Haram are two sides of the same coin of ignorance and stupidity.

One thing you guys need to realise is that this tribalism you practice is unAFRICAN.

It was the colonialists who got you thinking in terms of 'I am Igbo'. 'You are Yoruba'.

Before colonialism, we identified ourselves by our town of origin and family/community lineage - NOT by our language.


Speaking Yoruba did not make you a ''Yoruba man''. You were an Egba man or an Ekiti man etc. Same for Igbos. Igbos never regarded themselves as one group before colonialism came. Go and read Achebe. Each town was a nation unto itself.

The colonialists introduced language bloc identification.

Words of wisdom

Revolution of the 18th century.

They did not use any machines at all (at least none that we know of. Maybe they invented something they used, who knows? Do we research our history?)


I still say it, we have our own technology. We used our technology for health, architecture etc. If only we had history to know how these greats were achieved.

This wall ensured so much, even walls. It is the first record of street lights.

Razgas:
I went through your post and I know you are a reasonable person.
The guy you are supporting on this thread against Me is probably the most evil Nigerian alive today.
He holds extreme views that even boko haram leaders don't hold.
Calling him out on this thread and on every other thread is a patriotic act.

I love this his thread but mehn that guy is vile

Malroux:
I'm not supporting anyone here bro. Just wanted to learn more about the great wall of Benin. I just saw his past posts here and I now understand whom he truly is. Posterity will judge everyone.

Me too o, wow, that guy is evil

SuperOnyi:









Our ancestors must be ashamed of us 😔.

I know some of our traditions wasn't good (just like it was in every culture in the world) but we believed in ourselves and would have been better than we were now.

I wonder what would have happened if we had the type of confidence people like the Chinese possess, that led them to develop at a faster pace.

Did we forget all these? What didn't our ancestors develop some system of writing that's popular in the south? A lot of questions not a lot of answers. If we had a system of writing, it would have been easier to regain our confidence since we can learn the exploits of our ancestors.

Now, we have to read a book by a European to know more about our ancestors 😔.

Google ndibidi. It was a form of writing developed by the Igbos

blueAgent:


Rubbish.

Quit smoking dey weed.

There you're!!
A nation made up with comfortable slaves/people like you is doomed.

tsdarkside:


but the informations in the bible were drawn from the lost books na....

no it wasn't

musicwriter:


There you're!!
A nation made up with comfortable slaves/people like you is doomed.

Better to answer a slave and face reality, than live free in your fantasy and delusion.

Wake Up

Rossikk:
This is the palace of the Oba of Benin before its destruction by British forces in 1897.

The palace was built in the 13th century.

It shows the traditional Benin Ikun courtyard architecture.

There were a total of 209 Ikuns at the palace. The picture shows about 24, which shows you how huge the palace was.

I actually checked Google Earth to investigate this, and you can see on Google Earth that the new, modern palace is there which everyone can see from the road.

But on Google Earth, looking from above, you can see the interior of the palace compound, and you will STILL SEE remnants of this building, several Ikuns - around 10 or so behind the current palace.

Benin city of course was described by visiting Europeans as one of the most beautiful and best planned cities on Earth, with street lighting (from palm oil fuelled steel lamps) and underground drainage, houses with paved courtyards, and even some paved streets (paved with raised, broken potsherds).

Royal Palace of the Oba of Benin, dated 13th century)

Inside the palace of the Oba of Benin, a variety of brass keys were used to lock palace rooms where valuable objects such as the king’s regalia are stored. They are also employed to secure palace shrines, and especially those large quadrangles. Only one of many still exists, more publicly accessible and that contain carved ivories, staffs, and cast brass objects. The key holder knocks three times on the large timbered door to ensure that the spirits of the deceased are awake, inserts the key and with a twist, lifts the hook off its latch.

This releases the bolt that locked the door. The hooks operate in much the same way as the cast keys. Inserted at an angle, the hook key catches the slide and lifts it, the hooked part of the key holds the slide securely and ensures that the slide does not fall to the ground.
Locks of a more conventional padlock type also existed. Insertion of a key into the side of the lock released a mechanism that held the padlock together. Made of brass, these padlocks often had designs of the king, chiefs, or other court dignitaries, and various animals making them decorative and symbolic at the same time (Pictures below show how the keys worked. Notice the refined mechanism of the keys)
Africans used keys before the europeans

Kenmatt:


It was the Prince of Oba of Benin that was sent on exile that fought and conquered and became the first Ooni of Ife.

We hear you. Continue deceiving yourself.

Rossikk:
According to British newspaper, the UK Guardian,



https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

Benin Wall and Moat

As it looked 500 years ago:

Lost without trace u said? Let us stop this embellishments. Am an Edo man, schooled in Uniben, lived and worked in Benin for eleven years up till a few years ago. What Benin has is a Moat dug around it NOT a wall. Even Benin folklore says d giant Arualan dug d moat by marching round d city though d reality is that it was dug by workmen. I have gone round d palace and much of central Benin and it's vicinity, nothing remotely like d ruins of any wall, just d moat which u can still see around back of Vegetable mkt off Airport road. Embellishment and exaggeration of history is d bane of d black man, d present Oba palace is like a hut, a toy house not befitting d oba's status (I virtually lost respect for d Bini monarchy when I visited Buckingham palace for d first time after taking that long walk from Big Ben thru Downing Street then brigade of guards to d palace, seeing d war and colonial monuments, nature and wildlife preserved, d majesty of d British Monarch was just overwhelming and humbling. And Buckingham has been in existence for how many centuries? The Oba of Benin is famed, too majestic to live in that ringroad palace, our people and govt need to go to a huge expanse of land, in d outskirts of Benin, build a huge palace that befits d majesty of d omonoba, site a royal museum in that vicinity, build six lane roads with huge walkways and site some natural wildlife (not violent wildlife oh) enroute to d palace to attract tourists like Burkingham which looks like everyday is Christmas while retaining d old palace in ringroad. This is what we should be doing not creating fables and consoling ourselves with lies of things we never had. What matters now is what we have and d present palace is nothing to write home about. A more majestic palace for d Omonoba should be d song!

ANY society that abandons its traditional religion and replace it with a foreign religion (especially those given by oppressors) is a society that will ALWAYS remain in slavery.

The Chinese, the Japanese, the Indians rejected Islam and Christianity. And today they're doing well.

Nigerians accepted Islam and Christianity en masse ,and look at us today. We have become slaves of Europe/America, China and Saudi Arabia.

This post is for the intelligent and the discerning. Its not for slaves and the mentally brainwashed.

The third picture is from Ogun state. Its actually the most massive engineering structure of medieval times. Yorubas were probably the most advanced culture in Western Africa.

Rossikk:


You are right my brother.

The biggest damage they did to us wasn't even the looting of our resources, which in itself was massive.

It was the damage they did to our MINDS.

And the MAJOR tools of destruction are Islam and Christianity.

Rossikk:


I just posted pictures of the wall above here. What are you talking about?

The wall is partly overground and partly moat, which is covered by greenery.

Successive governments have neglected and ignored it.

In a serious country where people took pride in their history and heritage, that wall would have been our BIGGEST INCOME EARNER even more than oil, as a result of tourism.

This is literally the biggest man-made structure ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH!

Yet most NIGERIANS don't even know it exists, talk less of the world's people.

Ordinary Stonehenge in England brings in more than 20 billion dollars annually to the UK in tourism receipts.

Stonehenge is just a few rocks piled on top of each other to form a small circle.

Stonehenge


The whole world knows about Stonehenge, but nobody knows about the Great Benin Wall that is 4 times longer than the Great Wall of China.

In fact we have problems as a people.

You don't even know what is going on.
If we decide to build these walls by ourselves today, the demonic greedy politicians will not want us to do so. Because they will make more money in over budgeted construction projects by the Chinese than using local engineers.
Road projects and other projects are conduits for corruption.

GodHimself:
The actual story is fantastic.

There’s a portion of the wall you can visit at Epe.

The story told by the locals says it was built by Queen Sheba (yes the one that visited Solomon) and she had giants working for her on the construction.

Crazy story, but you know, the truth is stranger than fiction.

That's not Bini wall that's in Ogun state. And it has NOTHING to do with Queen Sheba. Its just that Nigerians are so colonially brainwashed that they have to attribute everything to foreigners especially those that have connection with the British 'gift' called the bible.

Rossikk:


I think you may be confusing the Benin wall with the OTHER massive Nigerian wall, the Eredo Earthworks also known as Sungbo's Eredo, located near Ijebu Ode.

The queen who ordered its construction was Bilikisu Sungbo, and some have posited that she was the legendary Queen of Sheba. ('Ijebu' and 'Sheba' could well be referring to the same place.

'Sheba' sounds like what an oyinbo person would call Ijebu.

Nothing to do with Sheba. Just the colonially brainwashed Christians trying to claim traditional African greatness. The women was a GREAT Yoruba Queen not a jew or ethiopian.

JoeEeL:


Exactly. Peoples like Japan did not lose their identity. Instead they built ontop it. They kept their monasteries and Kun reading. The technology of guns when the brits stepped foot on their lands, they grabbed it and built ontop of it while preserving their values. Till today their sense of purpose and identity are strong. They also reserved their language and their ways of life, like the Chinese.

The Nsibidi was a complex code / symbol language that translated to meanings. It was developed in the Biafran territories, from the Igbo hinterland to the Ejagham peoples all through Cross River, Akwa-Ibom down to even present-day Cameroun. It stood as a unifying form of communication whilst each of the indigenous peoples in this region had their respective languages. For instance in English or many of today's languages, everything is broken down, letter by letter. For instance "I am going to the market". Nsibidi instead would have a sort of symbol that would encapsulate the words "I", "go", "market" etc. You get the idea. There was mainstream nsibidi which the locals knew while there were far advanced code symbols that the "higher class" developed and used. More like "cult" but not in a bad way.

It was also used in representation of markings, tattoos, paintings, arts and even in wars to pass coded messages. These colonialists came, destroyed and banned all those things, eliminated those with deep knowledge of these, burnt artefacts and stole a lot from temples. If you know what these colonialist countries are hiding from black people, many of us would die of heart attack. They started to build churches and the corrupt and exiled in the societies, they began to make them appointed in church... citing scriptures that talk so much about forgiveness of sins and almost no repercussion. This was at odds and conflict with most of our traditional values. We did not have prison systems. Most times the bad in the societies were either exiled or estranged. Most kids wouldn't play with you, everyone would keep away from you to serve as deterrence for others to keep commiting evil. But these invaders turned our systems upside down and the alienated, the bad eggs, were elevated as priests, teachers, commanders of d community. They were stooges for d west... all from politics, to elders, to church etc. This is why it seems we are cursed with bad leaders. No, its been like that since they step foot on our soil. They make the worst rule over us. It's deliberate.

See, there's too much to say. Back to the nsibidi stuff. They started to demonise those who had knowledge of it. You know d usual na. Call them cultists, rebels, devil worshippers, hellfire stuff. U know how these guys control communication, media and brainwashing na. To d extent people started dropping their names that bore sweet names like Ekwensu, Esubiyi, Ifadele... Check yoruba names today; people now drop their names if it starts with Ogun, Ifa, Sango, Oya etc. and replace with Oluwa. For instance we used to have names like "Sangodele", "Ifabiyi", "Ogundayomi" "Ogundare" etc. Those in Biafra kukuma dropped their whole indigenous names and begun to bear names like "Sandra", "Gregory", "Silas", "Anselm", "Hilda". That's how it all started o. They burnt many of our "idols", "shrines", "temples" etc. Those who practised went into hiding. Haha, our world was actually turned over.

Back to the discussion, there was one lady on youtube that was teaching Nsibidi one time like that. But know that its watered down and quite a lost has been lost. But it can be revived just like the hebrew language today by the pioneer Ben-Yehuda. People dont know that Hebrew language of today was actually lost... but with determination, languages and cultures can be revived.

Check out this link:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfDUukz45t0&t=247s&ab_channel=IkengaNationTV%7CIgboLectures%7CNsibidi%26more

I really appreciate this, boss. Thanks for the lecture. I wish I am wealthy but I'm not there yet, I would have made this my mission.

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

Waste or time and resources.

Rossikk I'm so inspired.

JOemmy:
But tinibu and his media mob started it all have u forgotten so soon how tinibu himself used derogatory words during his campaign against obi and his supporters when he said they will labor to death? Or have you also forgotten how tinibu's media chief discribed obi as obituary in the nation newspaper which tinibu's online miscreants then started using to taunt obi and his supporters? Have you ever seen peter obi or any of his known media platforms using such inhuman derogatory words on his political opponents?

Remember that Obidients/Peter Obi started these attacks on Tinubu. What you see from Tinubu supporters is response after several warnings to Obi supporters to stop.