lakal:

Urhobos kneel to greet. I've heard even some Anioma people do too.

mbatuku1:

We are talking about prostrating here, I think. Even Yorubas themselves are getting ashamed of it. It's becoming an uncommon practice. It just doesn't make sense in a modern world, and people are adjusting to that subconsciously.

Ileke-IdI:

Which ones? Stop making lies up, dear.
Yorubas still prostrate, some do half way, others do full way. Depends on where you're from and the occasion, really.
Makes sense in modern world, because in the region opposite the SW, the world has gone to the dogs. No sense of respect.

mbatuku1:

No one is prostrating again, maybe in your Ekiti village. From my growing up days in the city of Lag nothing like that.

Ofcourse, it make no sense in a modern world. It was cool when people were primitive and wore rags. I just cant imagine soiling my clothes because I want to greet. Those who are sincere to themselves(not an ignoramus/liar like you) know that the prostrating thing is a thing of the past.

Anyway, you do not have to always compare every problem you have in yorubaland to east of the Niger, ok?

Yes, Igbo dont prostrate to greet people, so do many other people. No biggie about that. I do not have to tell you that prostrating does not equal to respect. In my own neck of the woods, the youths are very respectful to their elders and hold an older person in high esteem. Occasional cases of disrespect by unruly youths are usually handled by the council of elders, with certain fines imposed on the convicted.

You dont know something, do not talk about it.

Ileke-IdI:

Subjective opinion from an outsider. And to make it worst, one who hates anything Yoruba.

People still prostrate in this modern world to sow respect in a modern world where respect is not valued anymore. Yorubas and Yoruba descendants still value and practice Yoruba culture. Prostration is a must in Yorubaland, still goes on.

mbatuku1:

@ bolded. You are so wrong, dear. Just have a problem with the arrogance and superiority complex exuded most times.

Well, I'm simply stated what I see and observe. I have no stake in all of this.

P.S: You're looking pretty on FB. Good job on the weight loss.

tpia@:

I think most cultures in the world have some things in common.

A lot of african cultures have semitic tones which some prefer to call jewish while others prefer arab.

Ibn batuta reported visitors to the king either of songhai or mali empire, as having to lie flat (maybe) and pour sand on their heads when in the presence of the sovereign.

So, all these things arent new to africa.

Ileke-IdI:

What does prostration have to do with arrogance and superiority complex?
The day I dont "kunle" for my mom when greeting her is the day i'M BEGGING FOR A SOUND SLAP. Even at old age, my mom still prostrates to her elders and her oldest sister.

Seriously, how are you ppl getting my FB info, I have blocked everything, still. I told you I was never fat, even if you wish it

mbatuku1:

lol. I just came across it again by accident.

I just lying. You're still ugly and fat.

Ileke-IdI:

Thanks very flattering More like it

Now why does prostration bother you? Because it's a Yoruba practice? What is up with the superiority complex - inferiority complex that's bothering you?

mbatuku1:

www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-785746.0.html

As long as I want to avoid tribalism on any issue but I cannot help on this.[size=28pt] I believe the Yoruba folks gives more respect to their elders compare with other tribes in Nigeri[/size]a. Just a thought anyway. What is your view on this?

mafolayomi:

it is still very much in practice o, infact if you dont do it well, u can be corrected and ask to do it again. i wont only kneel down to greet those that ar not yorubas cos dey wont know d meaning/value. i have once tried it with my FIL b4 marriage, and[b] he told me he is not God[/b], so since den i never did, all i do is just bend a little bit, cos i cant be greeting somebody as old and important as him and be standing, oti oooooo

I am Eastern Orthodox and we also prostrate ourselves before the Sacrament and facing East (location of altar) during Great Lent.

The Coptic Christians of Egypt also prostrate themsleves. It is the only proper posture of those who would humble themselves before God. When in our bodies we finally appear before Christ our God none will dare to shake His hand.

amor4ce:

I have a feeling that the prostrations in the Vatican that you referred to are derived from the Israelite tradition. As seen in the Bible, prostration was not limited to worship. I want to believe that the Yoruba must have a strong reason for prostrating - could the reason have been forgotten over time?

I'm searching for the roots of the words doba'le and ikun'le. I'm sure the "le" part has to do with ile (earth/ground).
Apart from king, does OBA mean royal father and/or dear father?


With regard to worship, here's what a someone contributed to my blog:

mbatuku2:

[size=28pt]My guess is that[/size] there was probably some kind of human worship among the yorubas in the past which was eventually adopted as a standard form of greeting.

I could recall (not vividly) reading an account of Sango being worshipped by his subjects when he started spitting fire, most likely by some form of prostration and knelling.

Papal lethargy in Vatican

I have a feeling that the prostrations in the Vatican that you referred to are derived from the Israelite tradition. As seen in the Bible, prostration was not limited to worship. I want to believe that the Yoruba must have a strong reason for prostrating - could the reason have been forgotten over time?

I'm searching for the roots of the words doba'le and ikun'le. I'm sure the "le" part has to do with ile (earth/ground).
Apart from king, does OBA mean royal father and/or dear father?


With regard to worship, here's what a someone contributed to my blog:

Quote
I am Eastern Orthodox and we also prostrate ourselves before the Sacrament and facing East (location of altar) during Great Lent.

The Coptic Christians of Egypt also prostrate themsleves. It is the only proper posture of those who would humble themselves before God. When in our bodies we finally appear before Christ our God none will dare to shake His hand.

Ileke-IdI:

Stop guessing and try to atleast research and get the fact straight.