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Show me your response on me questioning you of Q38:23

Because you avoided so many posts from me.

TenQ:
Here below was what I posted
Unfortunately unlike you Muslims, we don't belive in the Destiny of Allah as Allah has destined David to both be wise and foolish at the same time. David was a man after God's heart and he did everything God asked him to do except that he also did what he was not sent to by God like Adultery and Murder against Uriah the Hittite. I am sure you know that God doesn't tell David EVERYTHING to do like when to sleep with his wives or go to the toilet or when to worship or when to read the scriptures.

Unfortunately, If you check your Quran, you will notice that the verse on Allah bestowing wisdom and sagacity of judgement immediately preceeded his perceived stupidity. This is an apparent contradiction which is inexcusable.

Secondly,
You will note that Allah was telling a story that was already in existence

Qur'an 38:21
AND YET, has the story of the litigants come within thy ken - [the story of the two] who surmounted the walls of the sanctuary [in which David prayed]
Allah was asking if you Muslims have heard of this story..

Please, I ask you:
From who would you Muslims hear the story if not from Jews and Christians?
See your response below
Is there any correlation?



I challenge you to bring out the place where you asked me this question and I refused to answer it! I am not like you Muslims who evade questions because of fear of exposure.

First show me that only one person of the two spoke to David
Qur'an 38:22 As they came upon David, and he shrank back in fear from them, they said: “Fear not!( We are but) two litigants. One of us has wronged the other: so judge thou between us with justice, and deviate not from what is right, and show (both of) us the way to rectitude



Of course simple English tells us that one person spoke this sentence
“This brother of mine has ninety-nine ewes, and I have one ewe, and he said, ‘Entrust it to me,’ and he pressured me with words.”


The problem now is that you claim that David erred in judging the rich man because he did not hear his own side of the story.

1. It didn't dawn on you that as you Muslims usually claim that "the Qur'an is not a storybook" that Allah or is it Mohammed summarised the story. If not, can you tell us what finally happened to the ewe in question?

Is it that David just dismissed them after he repented to Allah for his rashness in judgment?
2. Till now, you have not explained how the rich man is vindicated in this matter. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?


Waiting endlessly as usual with response which would not correlate with the questions.


By the way,
How did the poor man convince the rich man to climb the fence with him to seek redress with the king

Have you now seen it?



Again check here:

TenQ:

I wonder if it is jot English comprehension that is disturbing you in your quest to make a single point of value interpret 1 Corinthians 1:20 and 1 Corinthians 3:19


I have done justice to your question but again

Of course simple English tells us that one person spoke this sentence
“This brother of mine has ninety-nine ewes, and I have one ewe, and he said, ‘Entrust it to me,’ and he pressured me with words.”


It didn't dawn on you that as you Muslims usually claim that "the Qur'an is not a storybook" that Allah or is it Mohammed summarised the story . If not, can you tell us what finally happened to the ewe in question?

Is this an exact replica of what happened between the litigant and David?

If it is,
1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?

Above for your response

By the way,
How did the poor man convince the rich man to climb the fence with him to seek redress with the king

Will you now respond to each of the questions I posted in the two quotes?

Explore2xmore:

Show me your response on me questioning you of Q38:23

Because you avoided so many posts from me.

Repost Part ONE
Here below was what I posted
Unfortunately unlike you Muslims, we don't belive in the Destiny of Allah as Allah has destined David to both be wise and foolish at the same time. David was a man after God's heart and he did everything God asked him to do except that he also did what he was not sent to by God like Adultery and Murder against Uriah the Hittite. I am sure you know that God doesn't tell David EVERYTHING to do like when to sleep with his wives or go to the toilet or when to worship or when to read the scriptures.

Unfortunately, If you check your Quran, you will notice that the verse on Allah bestowing wisdom and sagacity of judgement immediately preceeded his perceived stupidity. This is an apparent contradiction which is inexcusable.

Secondly,
You will note that Allah was telling a story that was already in existence

Qur'an 38:21
AND YET, has the story of the litigants come within thy ken - [the story of the two] who surmounted the walls of the sanctuary [in which David prayed]
Allah was asking if you Muslims have heard of this story..

Please, I ask you:
From who would you Muslims hear the story if not from Jews and Christians?
See your response below
Is there any correlation?



I challenge you to bring out the place where you asked me this question and I refused to answer it! I am not like you Muslims who evade questions because of fear of exposure.

First show me that only one person of the two spoke to David
Qur'an 38:22 As they came upon David, and he shrank back in fear from them, they said: “Fear not!( We are but) two litigants. One of us has wronged the other: so judge thou between us with justice, and deviate not from what is right, and show (both of) us the way to rectitude



Of course simple English tells us that one person spoke this sentence
“This brother of mine has ninety-nine ewes, and I have one ewe, and he said, ‘Entrust it to me,’ and he pressured me with words.”


The problem now is that you claim that David erred in judging the rich man because he did not hear his own side of the story.

1. It didn't dawn on you that as you Muslims usually claim that "the Qur'an is not a storybook" that Allah or is it Mohammed summarised the story. If not, can you tell us what finally happened to the ewe in question?

Is it that David just dismissed them after he repented to Allah for his rashness in judgment?
2. Till now, you have not explained how the rich man is vindicated in this matter. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?


Waiting endlessly as usual with response which would not correlate with the questions.


By the way,
How did the poor man convince the rich man to climb the fence with him to seek redress with the king



Part TWO:

I wonder if it is jot English comprehension that is disturbing you in your quest to make a single point of value interpret 1 Corinthians 1:20 and 1 Corinthians 3:19


I have done justice to your question but again

Of course simple English tells us that one person spoke this sentence
“This brother of mine has ninety-nine ewes, and I have one ewe, and he said, ‘Entrust it to me,’ and he pressured me with words.”


It didn't dawn on you that as you Muslims usually claim that "the Qur'an is not a storybook" that Allah or is it Mohammed summarised the story . If not, can you tell us what finally happened to the ewe in question?

Is this an exact replica of what happened between the litigant and David?

If it is,
1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?

Above for your response

By the way,
How did the poor man convince the rich man to climb the fence with him to seek redress with the king


Will you now respond to each of the questions I posted in the two quotes?

Qasim6:

Qur'an is not a story book, it is a book of guidance to humankind. You can't read it like you read your holey forgery Bible

The Quran is a comedy of errors of disjointed stories of the ancients
How did the story of the Dhu al-Qarnayn enter the Quran (Quran 18:83–101)?
How did the legend of the Seven Sleepers enter the Quran(Quran 18:10–16)?
How did the children bedtime story of Solomons flying carpet and stick and magic ring enter the quran?
Women having reproductive fluid is a guidance?
The list is endless my dear!

Qasim6:

What Allah want us to take away from those verses is that we should be quick to turn in repentance whenever we found out we have erred.
As soon as David made judgement between the two he realized the whole case it's a trial from God and God is trying to pass him a message regarding what he has done previously. He turn in repentance and he was forgiven.

How is the verses a guide to turn in repentance?
What was the error of David in Judging the case (You haven't told me how the poor man was the guilty one of the two)?

Qasim6:

Now let me ask you a question, why did the Bible refer to Egypt ruler during the time of Joseph as pharaoh?

The term Pharaoh is adopted as an epithet of respect for of the Kings of Egypt and not the name of a particular king.
The term "Pharaoh" originally referred to the palace or the royal residence in ancient Egypt, but over time it became used as a title for the ruler of Egypt.

No one knows for sure the exact name of the king of Egypt at that time, however the following kings are postulated to be the Pharaoh Sesostris II (1894-1878 BCE) or Pharaoh Yakbim Sekhaenre (1805-1780 BC)
Moses wrote the Torah and thus used the terms familiar to the readers the terms Pharaoh in describing ALL kings of Egypt.


What do you have to say to this
Quran 12:20
And they sold him for a reduced price - a few dirhams - and they were, concerning him, of those content with little.
You may wish to show how Dirhams were spent in Egypt as money during the time of Joseph
Note: This is Allah himself speaking and not Mohammed.

Qasim6:

Qur'an that you are claiming copied from the Bible and have error of comprehension of Bible passages does not make such mistake.
Historically, it is now a known fact that Egypt rulers in the days of Joseph are not known as pharaoh.

I have explained this as a generic term of respect and address of the kings of Egypt was adopted by Moses who lived in the Palace of his Pharaoh.

But the Quran makes SEVERAL obvious historical errors
1. Show any historical evidence that Ezra is the son of God according to the Jews?
2. Did Jesus Die on the Cross according to history?
3. Where on the earth is the Massive wall of iron in Quran 18:96-97
4. Where is the barrier holding the Gog and Magog in archaeology in Quran 21:96
5. Show that crucifixions happened at the time of Moses (approximately 1500 BCE) as well as Joseph (approximately 2000 BCE) Quran 21:71 and Quran 12:41
6. Show how the Samaritans existed at the time of Moses Quran 20:85 and Quran 20:95
7. How come Allah was supposed to preserve the body of ONE pharaoh but we find several mummified Pharaohs preserved in their tombs Quran 10:92
8. As of the time of Moses, not one single children of Israel was king Quran 5:20
9. John (Yahaya) was a common name in the time of Jesus. Even some of Jesus disciples were named John contrary to Quran 19:7
10. Show a single non islamic source that says Abraham and Ismael built the Kaaba Quran 2:125-127

I challenge you to prove me wrong on any one above of your choice.

You will agree with me that this level of errors is not befitting the Creator of the Universe.

Strenuously lengthy duplication of essentially the same thing yet no reference to Quran 38:23 and still no response to:

Explore2xmore:



A sound judge is one who makes fair and well-reasoned decisions based on the available evidence and in accordance with the law. However, being perfectly correct is an unattainable standard for any human being, including a judge. It is important to recognize that judges are not infallible and are susceptible to making mistakes just like anyone else.

Do answer Both of them jointly said?

23. “This brother of mine has ninety-nine ewes, and I have one ewe, and he said, ‘Entrust it to me,’ and he pressured me with words.”

(SINCERELY ANSWER)

Anxiously waiting

TenQ:


Because you avoided so many posts from me.




Have you now seen it?



Again check here:





Will you now respond to each of the questions I posted in the two quotes?

I answered:

How can I know the degree of correctness in David's judgement when the other persons story is not narrated before a judgement was passed. Some exegesis state these were even angels that disappeared and David realised his error and realized what he was being taught. (tested) True to his nature he sort forgiveness regretting his hasty and impatient reaction without hearing the other side.

Explore2xmore:
Strenuously lengthy duplication of essentially the same thing yet no reference to Quran 38:23 and still no response to:

You probably chose not to see because they were highlighted at least TWICE in Yellow in my so-calling lengthy post as you claimed.

Lenthy because the question you accused me of not answering was answered TWO different times.

Check again

So:
Of course simple English tells us that one person spoke this sentence
“This brother of mine has ninety-nine ewes, and I have one ewe, and he said, ‘Entrust it to me,’ and he pressured me with words.”

Essentially forced isn't it yet the person who allegedly forced the order wasn't given opportunity to speak or relay his own side of events?

Does this look like how justice can be served and seen to be served?

Do you not see the lesson in how a judge should patiently hear all litigants, analyse and derive fair judgement by the grace of the all wise?

Explore2xmore:
Strenuously lengthy duplication of essentially the same thing yet no reference to Quran 38:23 and still no response to:




I answered:

How can I know the degree of correctness in David's judgement when the other persons story is not narrated before a judgement was passed. Some exegesis state these were even angels that disappeared and David realised his error and realized what he was being taught. (tested) True to his nature he sort forgiveness regretting his hasty and impatient reaction without hearing the other side.

Explore2xmore:
So:
Of course simple English tells us that one person spoke this sentence
“This brother of mine has ninety-nine ewes, and I have one ewe, and he said, ‘Entrust it to me,’ and he pressured me with words.”

Essentially forced isn't it yet the person who allegedly forced the order wasn't given opportunity to speak or relay his own side of events?

Does this look like how justice can be served and seen to be served?

Do you not see the lesson in how a judge should patiently hear all litigants, analyse and derive fair judgement by the grace of the all wise?

Who told you that the other person did not say his own side of the query?
Don't you Muslims insist that the Qur'an is not a storybook?

Okay, let's assume that Allah was detailed and narrated all the ordeal between the two litigants, can you answer the following questions

1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?
4. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?

If you feel that the story was complete, does it make sense to you? Did David dismiss them without making a final judgment upon the case?
If you can't answer these questions, then you will agree with reason that the narrative have holes in it and your conclusion that the rich man said NOTHING is impossible!

TenQ:




Who told you that the other person did not say his own side of the query?
Don't you Muslims insist that the Qur'an is not a storybook?

Okay, let's assume that Allah was detailed and narrated all the ordeal between the two litigants, can you answer the following questions

1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?
4. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?

If you feel that the story was complete, does it make sense to you? Did David dismiss them without making a final judgment upon the case?
If you can't answer these questions, then you will agree with reason that the narrative have holes in it and your conclusion that the rich man said NOTHING is impossible!

Are you playing dumb or actually are?
This is my brother.
Quran 38:23 He has ninety-nine sheep while I have ˹only˺ one. ˹Still˺ he asked me to give it up to him, overwhelming me with ˹his˺ argument.”
Quran 38:24 [David] said, "He has certainly wronged you in demanding your ewe [in addition] to his ewes. And indeed, many associates oppress one another, except for those who believe and do righteous deeds - and few are they." And David became certain that We had tried him, and he asked forgiveness of his Lord and fell down bowing [in prostration] and turned in repentance [to Allah].

MightySparrow:




You and I be know that Mohammed was a comedian.

A comedian indeed! The man through whom Almighty God revealed the sorrowful end of those who, by omission or commission, named themselves followers of with overblown and satanically invented beliefs, and same Jesus will disown them before Allah on the day of Jdgement (Q5:114 - 118

TenQ:




Who told you that the other person did not say his own side of the query?
Don't you Muslims insist that the Qur'an is not a storybook?

Okay, let's assume that Allah was detailed and narrated all the ordeal between the two litigants, can you answer the following questions

1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?
4. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?

If you feel that the story was complete, does it make sense to you? Did David dismiss them without making a final judgment upon the case?
If you can't answer these questions, then you will agree with reason that the narrative have holes in it and your conclusion that the rich man said NOTHING is impossible!

Friendly sorry to my Muslim brothers who are are arguing or dragging this story with you, whom lack knowledge of Quran Exegesis and faith of believing it's content. They should have noticed your ignoramousity and childish interpretation of the story with those questions you asked. Again, they should have known that before your birth, Allah has mentioned your type (s) ; in Q3:7 as far interpretation and comprehension of Qur'an are concerned.

AntiChristian:


This is an asinine question!

Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam didn't write Anything from the Qur'an!

And how will Satan write?

What about the satanic verses?

gaskiyamagana:

Friendly sorry to my Muslim brothers who are are arguing or dragging this story with you, whom lack knowledge of Quran Exegesis and faith of believing it's content. They should have noticed your ignoramousity and childish interpretation of the story with those questions you asked. Again, they should have known that before your birth, Allah has mentioned your type (s) ; in Q3:7 as far interpretation and comprehension of Qur'an are concerned.

Thank you Sir.
Unfortunately, you performed even far worse than all of them combined as your response has ZERO bearing to the solution nor understanding of Qur'an 33:20-27.
Do you also vehemently reject the exegesis of Al-Tabari one of your scholars as neither Allah nor Mohammed explained this verse.

What then is your superior explanation for the text? Waiting humbly and patiently!



Okay, let's assume that Allah was detailed and narrated all the ordeal between the two litigants, can you answer the following questions

1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?
4. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?

Explore2xmore:


Are you playing dumb or actually are?
This is my brother.
Quran 38:23 He has ninety-nine sheep while I have ˹only˺ one. ˹Still˺ he asked me to give it up to him, overwhelming me with ˹his˺ argument.”
Quran 38:24 [David] said, "He has certainly wronged you in demanding your ewe [in addition] to his ewes. And indeed, many associates oppress one another, except for those who believe and do righteous deeds - and few are they." And David became certain that We had tried him, and he asked forgiveness of his Lord and fell down bowing [in prostration] and turned in repentance [to Allah].

I am not playing dumb o!

I am asking you questions based on your logic of completeness of conversation.
Have you ever in your life seen this kind of complete report of a case

A. Statement 1:
We have come for judgement because one of us wronged the other
B. Statement 2:
One of them said the other forcefully took his only Ewe when he had 100 of his own
C: Statement 3:
The judge makes a Decision of who was Guilty without at least solving the problem for the poor man
D. Repentance to Allah
The judge Repented and was forgiven for making a one sided Judgement and Case Closed

This case was completed in mere three sentences: it would probably will the Guinness record as the fastest decided case in the world

Does this make sense my brother as a complete narrative of what transpired.?
If it makes sense, you should be able answer the following questions as you will note that Allah never said that the rich man wasn't allowed to speak in defence of himself

1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?
4. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?


If you can answer these questions, every other questions are answered.
This is the kind of problem encountered when a narrative is incomplete and yet comprehension is supposed to be derived from such incomplete narrative.

AntiChristian:


This is an asinine question!

Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam didn't write Anything from the Qur'an!

And how will Satan write?

Really!?
Qur'an 25:5
And they say: "Tales of the ancients, which he has caused to be written: and they are dictated before him morning and evening."


Read Qur'an 10:61

gaskiyamagana:

A comedian indeed! The man through whom Almighty God revealed the sorrowful end of those who, by omission or commission, named themselves followers of with overblown and satanically invented beliefs, and same Jesus will disown them before Allah on the day of Jdgement (Q5:114 - 118

Doesn't it dawn on you that
If what Christians believe is satanic, then Allah would be that satan!?

1. Allah knew that Jesus had faithful followers and mother and siblings who follow him with their lives
2. It is understandable if Allah decieved the Jews and Romans that he had replaced the true Jesus with a fake one on the cross.

Why do you think Allah decieved Mary the mother of Jesus, the Apostles of Jesus and all the Disciples of Jesus?
3. Allah then waited for 630 years to reveal the Qur'an which clearly refutes and corrects the deception of the Christian with only one VERSE which till today Muslims have manufactured several conjecture as it explains nothing.


Sorry sir, I am just flowing with your argument.

Explore2xmore:


Are you playing dumb or actually are?
This is my brother.
Quran 38:23 He has ninety-nine sheep while I have ˹only˺ one. ˹Still˺ he asked me to give it up to him, overwhelming me with ˹his˺ argument.”
Quran 38:24 [David] said, "He has certainly wronged you in demanding your ewe [in addition] to his ewes. And indeed, many associates oppress one another, except for those who believe and do righteous deeds - and few are they." And David became certain that We had tried him, and he asked forgiveness of his Lord and fell down bowing [in prostration] and turned in repentance [to Allah].

All this argument will be laid to rest if u can just provide one single evidence from the Koran or hadiths that these litigants are supernatural beings.
Provide just one and u win the argument.
U claim they are angels, show us how u came about that claim.
I've been begging u since yesterday to provide evidence to above but prefers to keep numb.
Don't u want to win the argument?

Now you show your arrogance that all this is not but for sake of winning an argument.

Probably why you hide that if you tell me certain things of your own scripture under your claim that I will not believe.

Do you all deceive yourselves that there aren't situations amongst humans where only one plaintive states his case in a dispute and the other is disallowed?


A reference to Guinness world records betrays your propensity to worldly views when your own scripture tells you the wisdom of man is but foolishness before God.
Yes both persons came for a settlement and only one stated his side of the dispute and a hasty reactive statement was made to his comment without listening to the other.
Are you all stuck up in your reasoning to see this?

Explore2xmore:
Now you show your arrogance that all this is not but for sake of winning an argument.

Probably why you hide that if you tell me certain things of your own scripture under your claim that I will not believe.

Do you all deceive yourselves that there aren't situations amongst humans where only one plaintive states his case in a dispute and the other is disallowed?


A reference to Guinness world records betrays your propensity to worldly views when your own scripture tells you the wisdom of man is but foolishness before God.
Yes both persons came for a settlement and only one stated his side of the dispute and a hasty reactive statement was made to his comment without listening to the other.
Are you all stuck up in your reasoning to see this?

I am asking you questions based on your logic of completeness of conversation.
Have you ever in your life seen this kind of complete report of a case

A. Statement 1:
We have come for judgement because one of us wronged the other
B. Statement 2:
One of them said the other forcefully took his only Ewe when he had 100 of his own
C: Statement 3:
The judge makes a Decision of who was Guilty without at least solving the problem for the poor man
D. Repentance to Allah
The judge Repented and was forgiven for making a one sided Judgement and Case Closed

This case was completed in mere three sentences: it would probably will the Guinness record as the fastest decided case in the world

Does this make sense my brother as a complete narrative of what transpired.?
If it makes sense, you should be able answer the following questions as you will note that Allah never said that the rich man wasn't allowed to speak in defence of himself

1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?
4. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?


If you can answer these questions, every other questions are answered.
This is the kind of problem encountered when a narrative is incomplete and yet comprehension is supposed to be derived from such incomplete narrative.

TenQ:

Really!?
Qur'an 25:5
And they say: "Tales of the ancients, which he has caused to be written: and they are dictated before him morning and evening."


Read Qur'an 10:61

What are the contexts?

MightySparrow:


What about the satanic verses?

What are they?
Do you have any Qur'an verse or hadiths that mentioned that?

TenQ:

Doesn't it dawn on you that
If what Christians believe is satanic, then Allah would be that satan!?

1. Allah knew that Jesus had faithful followers and mother and siblings who follow him with their lives
2. It is understandable if Allah decieved the Jews and Romans that he had replaced the true Jesus with a fake one on the cross.

Why do you think Allah decieved Mary the mother of Jesus, the Apostles of Jesus and all the Disciples of Jesus?
3. Allah then waited for 630 years to reveal the Qur'an which clearly refutes and corrects the deception of the Christian with only one VERSE which till today Muslims have manufactured several conjecture as it explains nothing.


Sorry sir, I am just flowing with your argument.

There are tens of verses in the Qur'an, even in the bible, with which Isa (asw, Jesus ) condemned and corrected your satanically invented beliefs and overzealousness about him. Those who heed not on earth, like you, will suffer the fate of Qur'an 5:114 - 118 hereafter.

AntiChristian:


What are they?
Do you have any Qur'an verse or hadiths that mentioned that?

Hahahaha.
Be deceiving yourself. As if you don't know what I am talking about.

TenQ:



I am asking you questions based on your logic of completeness of conversation.
Have you ever in your life seen this kind of complete report of a case

A. Statement 1:
We have come for judgement because one of us wronged the other
B. Statement 2:
One of them said the other forcefully took his only Ewe when he had 100 of his own
C: Statement 3:
The judge makes a Decision of who was Guilty without at least solving the problem for the poor man
D. Repentance to Allah
The judge Repented and was forgiven for making a one sided Judgement and Case Closed

This case was completed in mere three sentences: it would probably will the Guinness record as the fastest decided case in the world

Does this make sense my brother as a complete narrative of what transpired.?
If it makes sense, you should be able answer the following questions as you will note that Allah never said that the rich man wasn't allowed to speak in defence of himself

1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?
4. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?


If you can answer these questions, every other questions are answered.
This is the kind of problem encountered when a narrative is incomplete and yet comprehension is supposed to be derived from such incomplete narrative.

See this 'olodo' (zero score-man) . He is interpretating and arguing Parable in general term.

MightySparrow:




Hahahaha.
Be deceiving yourself. As if you don't know what I am talking about.

I don't have holly spirit and I'm not a mind reader!

TenQ:

Thank you Sir.
Unfortunately, you performed even far worse than all of them combined as your response has ZERO bearing to the solution nor understanding of Qur'an 33:20-27.
Do you also vehemently reject the exegesis of Al-Tabari one of your scholars as neither Allah nor Mohammed explained this verse.

What then is your superior explanation for the text? Waiting humbly and patiently!



Okay, let's assume that Allah was detailed and narrated all the ordeal between the two litigants, can you answer the following questions

1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?
4. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?

You have zero qualification Islamically to challenge me, as well, to comprehend my answers to your questions, hence it is automatically, exercise in futility to answer you. Infact, and once again, l pityingly praise my brothers who are arguing with you.

AntiChristian:


What are the contexts?

Did you not just say:

"Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam didn't write Anything from the Qur'an!"


I have shown you that you err as your Quran was written by Mohammed.

Even if we choose to trust your scholars wasn't the Qur'an not written on the bark of trees, stones and anything that can be written upon?

Do you now admit that the Qur'an was written or you need more evidence?

gaskiyamagana:

There are tens of verses in the Qur'an, even in the bible, with which Isa (asw, Jesus ) condemned and corrected your satanically invented beliefs and overzealousness about him. Those who heed not on earth, like you, will suffer the fate of Qur'an 5:114 - 118 hereafter.

Does it even make sense to you that your ficticious Isa corrected Christians 630 years after he was supposed to have left the earth?

Why not answer my questions? Are you ill equipped to do so?


1. Allah knew that Jesus had faithful followers and mother and siblings who follow him with their lives
2. It is understandable if Allah decieved the Jews and Romans that he had replaced the true Jesus with a fake one on the cross.
3. Allah then waited for 630 years to reveal the Qur'an which clearly refutes and corrects the deception of the Christian with only one VERSE which till today Muslims have manufactured several conjecture as it explains nothing.

Why do you think Allah decieved Mary the mother of Jesus, the Apostles of Jesus and all the Disciples of Jesus?





Tell me how Jesus left the world without the knowledge of His disciples without conjectures.

gaskiyamagana:

See this 'olodo' (zero score-man) . He is interpretating and arguing Parable in general term.

Thank you my brother for calling me Olodo.

Unfortunately, you just manufactured a new conjecture.

The story was a parable:
But
David was Real!
David's prayer House Fence was Real!
David's repentance was Real!
The Report of the Offence was Real!

So my brother,
What was the parable?
Who was telling the parable?
Why was the parable told?


What are the Evidences of your conclusions and responses to the questions?

gaskiyamagana:

You have zero qualification Islamically to challenge me, as well, to comprehend my answers to your questions, hence it is automatically, exercise in futility to answer you. Infact, and once again, l pityingly praise my brothers who are arguing with you.

I am not challenging you to the contrary : I only ask you questions you refused to ask yourself!

My zero qualification is making me seek for understanding as a layman from your esteemed knowledge-base.
My query is because the story is highly Illogical and it seems even you do not have the mental sagacity to unravel it.

The questions were very simple
Okay, let's assume that Allah was detailed and narrated all the ordeal between the two litigants, can you answer the following questions

1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?
4. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?



Why is it that Muslims reach a brickwall whenever the technicalities of the Qur'an or Hadith are discussed?
Is it because normal logic break down?

TenQ:


I am not challenging you to the contrary : I only ask you questions you refused to ask yourself!

My zero qualification is making me seek for understanding as a layman from your esteemed knowledge-base.
My query is because the story is highly Illogical and it seems even you do not have the mental sagacity to unravel it.

The questions were very simple
Okay, let's assume that Allah was detailed and narrated all the ordeal between the two litigants, can you answer the following questions

1. Did David now asked the rich man to tell his own side of the story after his repentance?
2. What then was the aftermath of the litigation?
3. What happened to the Ewe in question: did David divide it into two?
4. Please justify how the poor man was wrong and the rich man is right in this case?



Why is it that Muslims reach a brickwall whenever the technicalities of the Qur'an or Hadith are discussed?
Is it because normal logic break down?

The difference between parable story and ordinary story with regard to your questions, is what your anti Islam roboticalized cognitive processes lacked. Due to your bad understanding of Qur'an and hatred for Islam, expecting anything positive from you about them is a great mistake for those who are answering you.

TenQ:

Thank you my brother for calling me Olodo.

Unfortunately, you just manufactured a new conjecture.

The story was a parable:
But
David was Real!
David's prayer House Fence was Real!
David's repentance was Real!
The Report of the Offence was Real!

So my brother,
What was the parable?
Who was telling the parable?
Why was the parable told?


What are the Evidences of your conclusions and responses to the questions?

Its too late, if not wasting of time to answer your questions about wether the story is parable or not.
Let me teach you something. Next time, you read a story in the Qur'an, ask your above questions about it. If you follow this advice, l am egg sure that this will reset, not format your anti Islam robotic brain in interpreting it.

TenQ:

Does it even make sense to you that your ficticious Isa corrected Christians 630 years after he was supposed to have left the earth?

Why not answer my questions? Are you ill equipped to do so?


1. Allah knew that Jesus had faithful followers and mother and siblings who follow him with their lives
2. It is understandable if Allah decieved the Jews and Romans that he had replaced the true Jesus with a fake one on the cross.
3. Allah then waited for 630 years to reveal the Qur'an which clearly refutes and corrects the deception of the Christian with only one VERSE which till today Muslims have manufactured several conjecture as it explains nothing.

Why do you think Allah decieved Mary the mother of Jesus, the Apostles of Jesus and all the Disciples of Jesus?





Tell me how Jesus left the world without the knowledge of His disciples without conjectures.

"....... FROM NOW ON YOU WILL BE CALLED ISRAEL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE FOUGHT WITH GOD AND WITH MEN AND HAVE WON" GENESIS 32:28.

1. Who said this?
2 Who is the referee in the fighting?
3. "..... you have fought with God and
with man" . Was it triple ( Jacob, God,
and the man (who is the man) or dual
( Jacob and God-man) fighting?

4. Which kind of fighting, wrestling,
judo, karate, kickboxing or boxing?
5. Who are the audience ?
6. Where was the fighting took place?
7. '.... and have won". How was the winner
decided?
Use your knowledge of technicality of Qur'an to answer technicality of the above questions