Beuberry:

So common sense didn't tell you it was Yoruba influence in Edo that made them not only influence the palace but have people so close to them. Since you v agreed Ogun, Ayelala, Olokun etc are Yoruba boys, no qualms.
Mind you, Benin people dey worship Ogun so don't say you guys are animists. Ogun was one of the oga welders for ancient Yoruba times. He's very talented & was given war Chief title. Anyways am not her to teach you history as a priestess.
My msg to you is clear now. You n gregboy v the right to protect ya heritage but don't do so with lies on another people's own. Me personally wished Yorubas cut ties with Benin cos it's indeed Ile-Ibinu, land of vexation. Naso una take annoy Oranyan that time & that man na hot tempered person.
Peace!

Raf4:


Do I need to school you about Bini expedition? How Oba of Bini sent his warriors to Lagos because of constant disputes between the Aworis and Bini traders? Go and read many history books on how Bini invaded and established Obaship in Lagos. Just because Aworis were blocking his access and control of trading activities in Lagos.

Beuberry:

You, gregboy and other Benin scavengers has been roaming this site spewing tràsh. Your statements are incoherent cos of lies you spill. You ll carry screenshots that even pointed more fact that Yorubas had more influence on Benins. While I reply all ya lies with truth, I ll rough handle you with more facts, logic & common sense posts to show that you are just a strong head boy like Ologbosere, the fetish chief that ill-advised Oba Ovonramwen.
Na that string head dey make you disregard Yoruba history from Benin.
Before you cough, what's the meaning of the word Benin?

Thebadpolitican:



Do you mean the aworis occupied every space in lagos, haha before Benin moved the capital of lagos from Badagry to lagos island, Lagos island was completely virginated, Benin were the first to settle in that area and soon trading began that brought in even the aworis benin controlled every part of lagos including ikeja

So aworis alone do not own lagos, they own a large portion does not mean it's for them only

Thebadpolitican:

I blame my useless father who can't control his urge and sired me

ShangTsung000:
Abeg this story is stale nau. Who discover Lagos? And then. Abegi.

SayNo2SmallPrik:

Yes ooo. Blame my dad very well. Yoruba dad's are something else

Thebadpolitican:



I don't see any similarities between Benin and Ife artwork, apart from the fact that both artworks you posted are both bust fiqures, that's is due to the fact that you only selected a Benin artwork you think look similar with Ife artwork but then again you failed...

The Benin artwork you posted does not have an open head space in the back, but all Ife artworks does including the one you posted

The eye designs in the Benin artwork you posted is different from that of Ife, the Benin artwork is less realistic

So I am asking where is the similarities in their tongue?

I am not stressing myself to educate you but to humiliate you and appeal to your inner mind to sink in the truth and also to the people that will come across this thread in the future...

My Screenshot shows both side views of Benin and Ife artworks

Lastly Did ife own their artworks?

The answer is no, the facial scarification in the Ife artworks was never in practice by the Ife people, the crown on the Ife artwork was recently copied by the current ooni, it was never in use before now... The assumed Oba olufun artwork attire was recently copied
Unlike the Benin artworks that represent their cultural attire even till date....

Our educational system is dead so stop using that as refrence, our educational sys is there to promote false unity between tribes, so if they can draw similarities between Benin and Ife art then it their usual madness

Lastly you said we should thank Egharevba lol, do you know he later corrected most of his baseless earliest works, I guess you're unaware that's why you're praising is old works....


Benin helped the yoruba into Organization my point is Ife and Benin never had any connection, Benin ruled over lagos, ogun, ekiti, ondo and defeated oyo, Benin presence in the yoruba culture is everywhere we built what is yoruba culture today...

Killermamba:
confuse mumu like seun, you have all the histories yet the origin and birth of tinubu is unknown.

Thebadpolitican:


I won’t stop insulting my parents openly cuz they didn’t teach me well

Raf4:


He came from Obadio family in Ile-Ife or do you know the name of his parents in igodomigodo?

Boyooosa:


May be the ancestral Binis settled in a part of Lagos island as reflected by all the reports we have here, even your own account affirms that.

My major concern and how I think we can fix this is, when the ancestral Binis migrated to Lagos Island and settled there, did they meet anyone or clan in the land?

Thebadpolitican:



Read the works of babatunde lawal on Benin and Ife artwork
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.jstor.org/stable/180516&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjvtbjk6PyCAxWJUkEAHYO0B9wQFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw1f20jqc1Jx-3X7iGPGK0zJ

There is the link or you can help yourself with the screenshot

slivertongue:
Well Yorubas own Lagos today but the binis & ijaws were there before them. Even archeological artifacts found in places in Lagos gives evidence to that effect.

Omobude244:

nor be only Obadio
na ObaFM

How did Obadio come about?
who are they in Ife?

Thebadpolitican:



They didn't meet anyone there Benin were the first to occupy the area and open it for trade inshort the Europeans and the Benins where the first to set their eyes on the inhabited lagos island both Benins and the Europeans agreed to setup a trade centre at lagos island which soon took place, the then Benin capital in lagos was still in Badagry before it was later moved the island

. You should know that population wasn't much in the past so people tend to conglomerate in one place under a larger population for both protection and everything

The Benins only had 3 people occupying lagos
As noted by a Dutch ethnographer who took account but that of Badagry was occupied by people Before the arrival of Benin it was there the Benin and aworis war took place

Procashtips:


Again, tales by moonlight.

Post the evidence stating that Benin Kingdom conquered the Aworis which led to them pay tax to the former.

Is this too hard to do?

Thebadpolitican:


You sound pained, you need to cool off buddy

Thebadpolitican:


Or are you the one living in self deceit

An excavation was done for Godsake no bones
Were found in the site, my explanation in my writeup explains how it came about
. Am glad you have learned the truth
Tho you sound rebellious in your response but it's normal it will die out

Good luck

Beuberry:


Pic 1 Benin
Pic 2 Ife
Pic 3 Benin queen mother
Pic 4 Ife ancient queen image.
Look at the eyes o, the stylized eyes, beads, head etc.
Are you still blind to see the similarities, dear Uncle modern day Ologbosere?

Raf4:


Which evidence do you want again? All the available history books of more than a century old recorded so. The only book that is saying otherwise is the one written by Ereduawa II less than 20yrs ago.

Raf4:


Which evidence do you want again? All the available history books of more than a century old recorded so. The only book that is saying otherwise is the one written by Ereduawa II less than 20yrs ago.

Procashtips:


Lol post the link to your so called evidence and stop beating around the bush.

Ghostagain:

Why did you guys just let the lie about the artefacts to go unchallenged?

Procashtips:


I don't know how to jump about

He's yet to provide evidence to the lie he's sprewing, same person would not have answers to more complex lies his counterparts are spreading.

Ghostagain:

It is not about "history books", it is about documents written by eye-witnesses. All you are proving with the date of your "history books" is that Yoruba were already involved in rewriting history 100 years ago.
I posted documents much older than your "history books" and they contradicted your "history books". And the documents which I posted were written by people describing what their eyes were seeing contrary to your "history books" written by people talking about things they claimed happened hundreds of years before their grand parents were born.

Raf4:


Tell us the names of Obagodo's parents in igodomigodo or Bini land. Does the name Obagodo sound edoid to you?

Raf4:


So, who is the eye witness you're referring to here? And which documents?

Portuguese sailed ⛵️ into Ereko that they named Lagos in 1472, met Awori Yoruba there, established trading contacts with them and all these were well documented by them. After about 2 centuries later, your oba of Bini forcefully hijacked the control of the trading activities, installed a king on the parcel of land gifted him by Aromire and the 1st oba was installed around 1630s.
My question is how can you establish a place in 1630 when the place was already in existence and in communication with the outside world, Portuguese, as far back as 1472?

Ghostagain:

You've just been caught claiming copies of Benin artefacts were actually Ife artefacts, yet you keep talking, do you have no shame ?

Did you even read the comment which you are replying ?
Are you asking me to reference eyewitnesses in my explanation of how history is researched? What sense does this make?

And you go on to write an other unsubstantiated story.
You just can't stop telling lies, it is stronger than you.

"all these were well documented by them", where are the documents? Fairytale peddler.