Thebadpolitican:


Benin yorubas were

Clown

Christistruth00:


Your first Ogiso Obagodo who founded Igodomigodo Kingdom and the Ogiso dynasty was also known as Ogiso Igodo
Igodomigodo was named after him .

Obagodo was Yoruba for Oba Igodo

Na Ife born Bennin
Any other Story is a lie

Raf4:


He came from Obadio family in Ile-Ife or do you know the name of his parents in igodomigodo?

Beuberry:

Talk in clear language

absoluteSuccess:


LOL

The name Yoruba was mentioned along 12 other tribal names by Ibn Baba, a Timbuktu scholar and writer of “Mi'raj al-Su’ud”, written in the year 1615. At this time, it has not entered any European source where returning slave would have picked it.

You may have to update your "blind spot" as regard this.

Christistruth00:



That was the Balogun Oshodi of Lagos
he never was in the Benin Army

Omobude244:

please where did ur obagodo came from in ur yoruba land?
who is the father of obagodo? abi he too fell from the sky?

Christistruth00:


Imagine !!
they made us research and research until we discovered that it was even Ile Ife that Founded both Benin itself and the Ogiso dynasty whose Ekhalerderhan Crown Prince they said got lost

There is just no Wisdom against God Almighty

To fight the Truth is to fight God

All Glory and Honour be to his Mighty Name

Boyooosa:


Did ancestral Binis meet anyone in the land when they went there, before naming it Eko?

Thebadpolitican:


What do you mean that oshodi is a yoruba name?

Ijaya123:


I know they will not return to answer that question.

Thebadpolitican:



Benins were never yorubas since inception till now yorubas started forcing this narrative during the Benin stay in the western region, if Benin or the monarchy was yoruba Benins would have fought heavily in the yoruba civil war instead benin traded yorubas guns to kill themselves without any other pyscial interference


Benins wouldn't have used ijebu as human sacrifice to their water idols

Christistruth00:


Oduduwa was the Father of the Oba Of Benin

It says so in his praise names

Beuberry:

You think you v brain? Or you think I v not read history and verified facts before talking?
Was it all Yorubas that was active in the civil wars?
The civil war was mainly for Ibadan & Ekiti people. So it was never of concern towards Benin. Moreover, there was little or no trade towards Benin routes.

Now listen, Benin have explanations to give if their name isn't Ile-Ibinu.
They also v to explain to the world the meaning of too many Yoruba names, vocabularies in their palace, culture & tradition. They v lied that they owned most of them but were never able to tell their full meanings.
Lastly, someone shared images of Orun Oba Ado today. Benins should tell us if it never existed or wasn't connected to them. And they should deny that Oranyan was never their first king.
For now, tell them to tell the meaning of the following
Ogun, Oba, Adesuwa (Adesewa), Osun, Eweka, etc.
Lots about Benin are of Yoruba roots.

Beuberry:

You think you v brain? Or you think I v not read history and verified facts before talking?
Was it all Yorubas that was active in the civil wars?
The civil war was mainly for Ibadan & Ekiti people. So it was never of concern towards Benin. Moreover, there was little or no trade towards Benin routes.

Now listen, Benin have explanations to give if their name isn't Ile-Ibinu.



They also v to explain to the world the meaning of too many Yoruba names, vocabularies in their palace, culture & tradition. They v lied that they owned most of them but were never able to tell their full meanings.
Lastly, someone shared images of Orun Oba Ado today. Benins should tell us if it never existed or wasn't connected to them. And they should deny that Oranyan was never their first king.
For now, tell them to tell the meaning of the following
Ogun, Oba, Adesuwa (Adesewa), Osun, Eweka, etc.
Lots about Benin are of Yoruba roots.

zombieHUNTER:


we know Benin people originally owns Lagos

no history book written by a cone head will erase it

Christistruth00:



Yes Oshodi is a Yoruba' name

FreeStuffsNG:
I think you should read how you are being economical with the truth.

What is in contention is that he was reportedly caught to have lied outrightly by saying the Bini founded Lagos. If he did as little as owned up to what the late Oba Akenzua said then it would make sense.

On conquest, it happened several centuries after the Yoruba owners of the land had ran their land and the battle between the landowners Yoruba Aworis and the Bini is not in anyway different from the ones the Ibadan waged against the Egba or the Oyo against Dahomey, it didn't make the Ibadan man lie that they own Abeokuta or the Oyo claim that they founded Dahomey. Not even the Fulani are brazen enough to lie that they founded Ilorin. The problem with the bini now is the lie that they founded Lagos or own the land. They don't. Till as recent as 2nd republic, the Oba of Lagos doesn't own land in Lagos for this reason and the case has been decided in court.

The Yoruba was in error of seeing the bini as relatives so it was not seen as an external aggressor against the Yoruba then.

Finally, from the history of Lagos and Lagos state, you can now see that for as long as this lie stands, the Oba of Lagos seat may be perceived as ceremonial while paramount rulers like Akran of Lagos, Ayangburen of Ikorodu, Elepe of Epe and direct descendants of Ogunfunminire who are the idejos ( landowners) may become elevated than him. It's unfortunate that this lie is exposing the revered Oba of Lagos as a descendant of a settler. It's unfortunate but that's what the Oba of Benin's brazen attempt to revise history as done. Very uncomfortable.

Oonirisa counselled them against going into twisted history because they don't know the true history. The Yoruba are very clever and sophisticated people, our forebears had the foresight that you will come with twisted tales and lies someday so they documented information and built structures to preserve our history.

The Yoruba founded Lagos, own Lagos and will forever own it. That's the fact!

Thebadpolitican:



Adesuwa is a Benin name it could sound similar we can only draw Conclusion if they have thesame meaning not sound, words sound alike alot

Adesuwa mean road to success or road of success
What does it mean in yoruba?

Yorubas state which is ondo has boundary with edo villages it is normal for some of this idols to be found in Benin some benin villages are bingual benin&igbo, benin&yoruba and Co Benins dont worship idol as much, we are mainly animist. worshipers of the deceased but we have few idols of our own, olokun ayelala and ogun


Benins and igbos share many words too, should we na say Beninz are igbos too

Think

Raf4:


All the Bini obas' heads were buried in Ile-Ife (Orun Oba Ado shrine) except that of Akenzua II and Ereduawa II. So what's your point?

Raf4:


Bini didn't name anywhere Eko. Eko is shortened form of Ereko.
B4 Bini invasion, there were settlements/communities like Isheri, Iddo, Ebute-Meta, Ebute-Ero, Ereko (that eventually becomes Eko)

Thebadpolitican:


Praise name you couldn't provide author
Or refrence to the book and the year it was written anyone can write anything on the Internet thesedays
Evidence makes the difference

Both of your sources are from nairaland
Igbo defender is a nairaland troll

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://igbodefender.com/21-praise-names-of-the-oba-of-benin-that-would-make-you-want-to-become-a-king/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjKl6qH1PuCAxWxWEEAHW2eA3kQFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw3u60scrmHk_jI7dcaYczHL

Thebadpolitican:

Christistruth00:



Your History is fake Oshodi is a Yoruba' name
Everyone one knows Ronke Oshodi Oke
She is a famous Yoruba Actress

Thebadpolitican:



Read this

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware


Read this

The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba.
Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1

Read this
https://www.nairaland.com/7928662/yorubas-too-dey-lie-history#127271150

https://www.nairaland.com/7683383/another-reason-why-benin-ife

Answer me this one
provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefactal wise, Note Europeans documented every aspect of Benin life including food, human scrafice, her civil wars the Europeans ethnograpger visited the Benins palace from their first arrival till the fall of the empire, but how come they didn't see Benin-ife Connection, Benin carrying their dead oba heads to Ife throughout 400years contact with Benins

Raf4:


I mentioned names of about 5 communities that still exist till today, yet you're still pretending.
If you say Eko means war camp or arsenal in bini language, howcome there's no single Eko in Bini city or anywhere again in Bini territory? Only a fool will believe that Bini, in 15th/16th century went about 400km away to establish war camp in an area already surrounded by many existing communities like Ijebus, Ilajes, Oyos, Dahomy etc.

FreeStuffsNG:

That was in the past. It's now behind the Yoruba
Pride goeth before a fall.

Procashtips:



https://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/benin-oyo-and-dahomey/

FreeStuffsNG:


Stressing that Oba Ewuare II’s claims are historically not correct, he added, “I read G.A. Akinola’s ‘The Origin of the Eweka Dynasty of Benin: A Study in the Use and Abuse of Oral Traditions (1976)’. In April 1973, the researcher was in the palace of the Oba of Benin, Akenzua II, on an interview appointment but the Oba changed his mind when he arrived. The Oba refused to speak with the man while he ‘wondered why a Yoruba should be interested in Benin history.’


“The researcher reported that his session with the king ended ‘with the Oba and his courtiers reminiscing about how Eko (that is Lagos) belongs to Benin by right of conquest long ago.’ I see a divergence here between the position of the current Oba of Benin and that of his ancestor, Akenzua II. The ancestor claimed Lagos as a war booty; the incumbent claims Lagos as a creation of his ancestors.”

“So, how could the ancestors of the Oba of Benin have been the ones who brought into existence a settlement that they waged war against in 1603 but which received the Portuguese explorer, Rui de Sequeira, in 1472?” Olagunju wondered.
https://punchng.com/oldest-history-books-say-yoruba-not-benin-founded-lagos/

Smh

Sadly, it's been one lie after another further diminishing the Binis in the eyes of many.

From the bursting of the Bini lie that the Oba of Benin never leaves the palace , internet era came and exposed the blatant lie. But for the expose by the internet, they would still continue with the lie whereas they knew it was a lie.

Next was the lie that their Oba did not originate from Ile Ife and heads of past Oba of Benin were not buried in Ile Ife. The Yoruba elders and forebears were so very clever to preserve the history and location where the heads of past Oba of Benin were buried in Ile-Ife till date. It's called Orun Oba Ado.

The 3rd lie is the attempt to claim a land, small part of Yorubaland on the fringe, that does not belong to them not knowing that the Yoruba documented it well.

So will you packs of lies will continue to crumble.

Pride goeth before a fall.

Thebadpolitican:


My papa and mama na ozour