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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:17pm On Dec 06, 2023
raskymonojendor:
It has always been an Awori settlement and the Ijebus as well around the Epe, Ikorodu and some Lekki areas. The bini soldiers came over 100 years after the Awori had settled in the land. Much ado over nothing.

Anyway, Lagos is covered by Ogun, then Ondo. It seems God knew many strange tribes would try to covet the land and eledumare decided to protect it with two Yoruba states.

Tiny piece haha

Read this
The Benins in lagos were not settlers like the yorubas want us to belive trouble started started when aworis kept harrasing the Benin trading merchant and Lagos had to be brought to his knees, after trading our merchant went back to Benin and after the war only 3 people stayed back to form the new lagos colony under the great Benin general oshodi who led the Benin army's and two of his other subordinate the first capital was at badary when trade died there, trade began booming in the Lagos island and the needed to move it to lagos island became a possibility which was later carried out because you don't see Benin influence on other part of lagos does not mean the oba didn't rule over the entire region called lagos now

2nd picture is the tiny piece of land (coloured red) the Benin occupied when they arrived with their soldiers.


Read this

The Benins in lagos were not settlers like the yorubas want us to belive trouble started started when aworis kept harrasing the Benin trading merchant and Lagos had to be brought to his knees, after trading our merchant went back to Benin and after the war only 3 people stayed back to form the new lagos colony under the great Benin general oshodi who led the Benin army's and two of his other subordinate the first capital was at badary when trade died there, trade began booming in the Lagos island and the needed to move it to lagos island became a possibility which was later carried out because you don't see Benin influence on other part of lagos does not mean the oba didn't rule over the entire region called lagos now
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by GoodGovernance: 8:17pm On Dec 06, 2023
fijihems:
Why all the noise about who discovered Lagos and who did not? People only discovered what was already in existence even before them. It doesn't mean they created anything. Afterall we were told that Mongu Park discovered the River Niger. And so be it.
j

This common sense.God created every where.The first person to settle or live in a place, is the discoverer or founder.

Therefore, Mungo paRk discovered river Niger.

The whole world was in the beginning, basically land, forest and water.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:18pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:

Look,
Benin Cannot even Swim not to talk of fighting the Awori and Ijebus who can swim like fish in Water

When it get down to the Wire and you dig deeper you will discover that the people who actually ran the show were the Itsekiri who even had Ijebu roots anyway

Na Itsekiri carry Benin come Lagos

And the Itsekiri even consider themselves to be Yoruba' People anyway

Benin People cannot Swim and they Cannot Canoe
So Benin defeating Awori and Ijebus on Water is out of the Question

Just say it was the Itsekiri
And the Itsekiri had Ijebu roots

Some say na itsekiri, some say na ijaw, the Benins say na the whitemen shio

Make Una dey playread this

The Benins in lagos were not settlers like the yorubas want us to belive trouble started started when aworis kept harrasing the Benin trading merchant and Lagos had to be brought to his knees, after trading our merchant went back to Benin and after the war only 3 people stayed back to form the new lagos colony under the great Benin general oshodi who led the Benin army's and two of his other subordinate the first capital was at badary when trade died there, trade began booming in the Lagos island and the needed to move it to lagos island became a possibility which was later carried out because you don't see Benin influence on other part of lagos does not mean the oba didn't rule over the entire region called lagos now
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 8:18pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:

lolz
nobody founded igodomigodo. igodomigodo was a collection of many villages and communities that came together and agreed to have one king.
ogiso igodo(obagodo) was chosen as the head among the odionweres. he rule very well and the kingship was left to his lineage. a name was also chosen for the entire community and they named it after him

our history is rooted

we dont go about claiming what doesnt exist like oduduwa falling from the sky, trekking all the way from saudi arabia or coming from none existent Oke Ora family grin

What's the meaning of Obagodo in Edo/Bini language? Obagodo is purely Ife/Yoruba name, just like Obatala, Obameri, Obalufon, Obadio etc. Ogisos of Igodomigodo are from Ile-Ife.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:21pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:
grin


Apart from the fact that the Oba Of Lagos is of Ijesha lineage since

Ologun Kutere who was Ijesha like his father Alagba who was Princess Erelu Kuti's Husband

It was even ife that founded benin

cool.Yes!!

ife founded benin!! Including the Ogiso dynasty!!!


obagodo the first Ogiso that founded Igodomigodo Kingdom that is now benin was an ife man
Igodomigodo is now benin



Ogiso obagodo founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from ife
obagodo was Yoruba for Oba Igodo


Read this

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 8:23pm On Dec 06, 2023
Thebadpolitican:


Some say na itsekiri, some say na ijaw, the Benins say na the whitemen shio

Make Una dey playread this

The Benins in lagos were not settlers like the yorubas want us to belive trouble started started when aworis kept harrasing the Benin trading merchant and Lagos had to be brought to his knees, after trading our merchant went back to Benin and after the war only 3 people stayed back to form the new lagos colony under the great Benin general oshodi who led the Benin army's and two of his other subordinate the first capital was at badary when trade died there, trade began booming in the Lagos island and the needed to move it to lagos island became a possibility which was later carried out because you don't see Benin influence on other part of lagos does not mean the oba didn't rule over the entire region called lagos now


Tapa Laduji Oshodi was not a Benin General
He was the Balogun of Lagos

Here is his Great Grandson Abisoye Oshodi

Insisting that Benin People never founded Lagos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45036eXf7hQ?si=Cu_aqcMNR7WqdCmY
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Sammybliss: 8:26pm On Dec 06, 2023
Chat gpt 4 don't lie........

The historical relationship between Benin and Lagos is quite significant and dates back several centuries. The Benin Empire, which flourished from the 13th to the 19th century, had a profound influence on the region, including the area that is now known as Lagos1.

In the early 1600s, specifically around 1603, the Benin Kingdom conquered Lagos, transforming the political system of Lagos from a confederacy to a monarchy2. This conquest led to the incorporation of the Idejo chiefs, who had ruled Lagos between 1500 and 1603, into the Benin monarchy as white cap chiefs. These chiefs retained control over land rights and the settlement of minor disputes2.

The foundation of Lagos is attributed to Prince Ado, the son of the Oba of Benin. Prince Ado was the first Oba of Lagos, and he named the town Eko. It was later renamed Lagos by the Portuguese explorer Ruy de Segueira in 19423.

The Awori subgroup of the Yoruba people, who are indigenous to the Lagos area, also played a significant role in the history of Lagos. They moved to an island now called Iddo and then to the larger Lagos Island. Their ruler, Olofin, divided the island among his ten sons4.

Overall, the historical relationship between Benin and Lagos is characterized by Benin’s imperial influence over Lagos, the establishment of a monarchy, and the integration of local chiefs into the new political structure. This relationship has shaped the cultural and political landscape of Lagos, leaving a lasting legacy that is still evident today.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by PHAYOL81: 8:32pm On Dec 06, 2023
@sotall and @validated, ISAKOLE (otherwise known as ROYALTY) doesn't suggest ownership, it clearly indicate SUBJUGATION of the weak LAND OWNERS by a SUPERIOR and POWERFUL outside force.

OYO once collected royalty from some kingdoms in todays BENIN REPUBLIC and till date, some of them still bear the imprint of those period (in language, tradition and relationship) but it doesn't mean the OYO or the YORUBAs founded the places. People were there whom the OYO EMPIRE subjugated and mandated to pay royalty to the OYO palace.


Sammybliss:
Chat gpt 4 don't lie........

The historical relationship between Benin and Lagos is quite significant and dates back several centuries. The Benin Empire, which flourished from the 13th to the 19th century, had a profound influence on the region, including the area that is now known as Lagos1.

In the early 1600s, specifically around 1603, the Benin Kingdom conquered Lagos, transforming the political system of Lagos from a confederacy to a monarchy2. This conquest led to the incorporation of the Idejo chiefs, who had ruled Lagos between 1500 and 1603, into the Benin monarchy as white cap chiefs. These chiefs retained control over land rights and the settlement of minor disputes2.

The foundation of Lagos is attributed to Prince Ado, the son of the Oba of Benin. Prince Ado was the first Oba of Lagos, and he named the town Eko. It was later renamed Lagos by the Portuguese explorer Ruy de Segueira in 19423.

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HEAR yourself out, how can the portugese renamed the place LAGOS in 1423 when you've already speculated that it was 1603 or thereabout that the BENINS named it EKO. Point blank, the PORTUGESE came around long before the BENINS and take a look around the street names and location on LAGOS ISLAND, they all attest to the real founders or else the BENINS should come round to tell us the one they named or the named places that was renamed by the YORUBAs and at what time?
HISTORY SHOULD BEAR ITS IMPRINTS ON TODAY and Lagos today clearly bear witness to the YORUBA historians records.

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Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:36pm On Dec 06, 2023
SayNo2SmallPrik:

Na Yoruba get Anambra. Weep

Ozour in that oshogbo you're you people hardly go to school there even when his name speak non ibo you still tag him igbo
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by rapheal5(m): 8:37pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:
grin


Apart from the fact that the Oba Of Lagos is of Ijesha lineage since

Ologun Kutere who was Ijesha like his father Alagba who was Princess Erelu Kuti's Husband

It was even ife that founded benin

cool.Yes!!

ife founded benin!! Including the Ogiso dynasty!!!


obagodo the first Ogiso that founded Igodomigodo Kingdom that is now benin was an ife man
Igodomigodo is now benin



Ogiso obagodo founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from ife
obagodo was Yoruba for Oba Igodo
So are you saying the same way fulani hijacked ilorin from yoruba is the same way Benin ppl hijacked Edo from yoruba right ?... grin grin
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 8:38pm On Dec 06, 2023
Procashtips:


You people won't stop lying

Not only ereko, it's eranko.


I ask again, do you have evidence of a war between the Benin Kingdom and the so called indigenes of a land with no name later named Camp (Eko) by the Benins?



I mentioned names of about 5 communities that still exist till today, yet you're still pretending.
If you say Eko means war camp or arsenal in bini language, howcome there's no single Eko in Bini city or anywhere again in Bini territory? Only a fool will believe that Bini, in 15th/16th century went about 400km away to establish war camp in an area already surrounded by many existing communities like Ijebus, Ilajes, Oyos, Dahomy etc.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:40pm On Dec 06, 2023
Ijaya123:




And who was the first Oba of Benin?

A Benin man
Read this

As we may have it Benin wasn't organised or a powerful kingdom in the early times, in the beginning they were several villages who had Thier various leaders called ogiso they were several ogiso( sky kings) in the various settlement of Benin. at this time Benin was not one, the various settlement with their own ogiso existed independently. there were no one ruler, until a man called evian, killed a spiritual beast that had been disturbing the various villages surrounding Benin. which the various Ogiso heads couldn't handle and he found favour in the Benin community and the villagers came together to make him the oba of igodo. he ascended the throne as eweka the first
He was blessed with mystical powers and the people likened him as the son of a God, the Ogiso who refused to surrender their sovereignty where forced and the kingdom was formed, this several ogiso heads became chiefs in the new kingdom called ogidomigofo
Which later renamed as edo during oba ewaure reign and turned Benin during the Portuguese arrival who had corrupted Ile binu from the itsekiri warnings that had earlier told them not to venture into Benin City during their arrival and inquisition about the edo people
Years after eweka had died his son expanded the kingdom further Benin on several occasion
Lost some villages under the kingdom that had to be brought back through force, the king of the sea (ogiamen) was a powerful ruler who had ruled the river banks of Benin is territory was independent of Benin even when the Benin kingdom was long establish, oba ewakpe who was a conquerer had waged war on his kingdom that lasted for years but his kingdom was too strong to be defeated lots of lives was lost until an agreement was reached by the ogiamen that Benin would one day take over his territory which was a sure thing, because Benin was flourishing and expanding unlike his territory and that if they have to join Benin that the oba of Benin would respect is terms,and that every oba that ascends the throne would always come and buy his sovereignty from his family at every coronation in terms of paying homage and that if the contract is broken they can choose to live the kingdom, this practice continued for centuries until after Benin empire was brought down by the British and that tradition was stopped by the oba, the only way the ogiame family could use to attack the oba was by false acclimation Of his illegitimacy

Just the way the yoruba were brought into one canopy by awolowo during the formation of Nigeria so as evian who became the first oba of Benin united the kingdom

The Benin kingdom consist of the 36 Benin families

The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co....

The yorubas and other tribes that have issues with the oba of Benin would always use the screenshot to support their claims that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, not until you ask them, if there is any trace of yoruba titles or names or even idols in the oba palace that can trace that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, then they will be left dumbfounded


Read this too...

As we may have it Benin wasn't organised or a powerful kingdom in the early times, in the beginning they were several villages who had Thier various leaders called ogiso they were several ogiso( sky kings) in the various settlement of Benin. at this time Benin was not one, the various settlement with their own ogiso existed independently. there were no one ruler, until a man called evian, killed a spiritual beast that had been disturbing the various villages surrounding Benin. which the various Ogiso heads couldn't handle and he found favour in the Benin community and the villagers came together to make him the oba of igodo. he ascended the throne as eweka the first
He was blessed with mystical powers and the people likened him as the son of a God, the Ogiso who refused to surrender their sovereignty where forced and the kingdom was formed, this several ogiso heads became chiefs in the new kingdom called ogidomigofo
Which later renamed as edo during oba ewaure reign and turned Benin during the Portuguese arrival who had corrupted Ile binu from the itsekiri warnings that had earlier told them not to venture into Benin City during their arrival and inquisition about the edo people
Years after eweka had died his son expanded the kingdom further Benin on several occasion
Lost some villages under the kingdom that had to be brought back through force, the king of the sea (ogiamen) was a powerful ruler who had ruled the river banks of Benin is territory was independent of Benin even when the Benin kingdom was long establish, oba ewakpe who was a conquerer had waged war on his kingdom that lasted for years but his kingdom was too strong to be defeated lots of lives was lost until an agreement was reached by the ogiamen that Benin would one day take over his territory which was a sure thing, because Benin was flourishing and expanding unlike his territory and that if they have to join Benin that the oba of Benin would respect is terms,and that every oba that ascends the throne would always come and buy his sovereignty from his family at every coronation in terms of paying homage and that if the contract is broken they can choose to live the kingdom, this practice continued for centuries until after Benin empire was brought down by the British and that tradition was stopped by the oba, the only way the ogiame family could use to attack the oba was by false acclimation Of his illegitimacy

Just the way the yoruba were brought into one canopy by awolowo during the formation of Nigeria so as evian who became the first oba of Benin united the kingdom

The Benin kingdom consist of the 36 Benin families

The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co....

The yorubas and other tribes that have issues with the oba of Benin would always use the screenshot to support their claims that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, not until you ask them, if there is any trace of yoruba titles or names or even idols in the oba palace that can trace that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, then they will be left dumbfounded
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 8:43pm On Dec 06, 2023
Raf4:


What's the meaning of Obagodo in Edo/Bini language? Obagodo is purely Ife/Yoruba name, just like Obatala, Obameri, Obalufon, Obadio etc. Ogisos of Igodomigodo are from Ile-Ife.
ozuor
na waste of time engaging u guys
the brain is just too shallow

so because Obagodo has a meaning in yoruba, therefore he is yoruba? grin

if obagodo is from ife, how come oduduwa that founded ife came 1050 plus but obagodo reigned 40 BCE ?

Is it that u guys are so stupid in that region?

so ife already existed before oduduwa found it ?grin
so obagodo have to go to benin from ife to formed benin while his 32 lineage oduduwa after a thousand years later have to return back to found ife again grin grin

stupidity at it peak
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:44pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:


Benin Never owned Lagos

Benin cannot Swim and Benin cannot Canoe

If not for the Itsekiri Yorubas with Ijebu roots that ferried Benin to Lagos Island, We promise you that the Ijebus would have drowned them all in the Atlantic Ocean

You know that the Ijebus don't have patience for nonsense

The Awori and Lagos were under Oyo

when Benin were granted a small corner of Lagos Island from where the sold Slaves to the Portuguese

Are you aware the name ijebu was unintentionally given to them by the edo people but your leaders won't tell you because it has a sad background attached to it, the Benins had always raided the ijebu people for sacrificial slaves for our idols and so when the European inquired about them, the Benin said oo, you mean the tubu people this were the sound they made when the Benins dropped their corpse inside the river, and the European corrupted tubu to ijebu

~ The Rev. S. Johnson, “The History of the Yorubas,” Completed 1897, Published 1921

Go through my screenshot.
Key words in the screenshot
Obi qurano = Obayuwana
Yebou= ijebu
Yoruba = yoruba

Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Elxandre(m): 8:45pm On Dec 06, 2023
How does this increase the GDP?
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by PureNigerDeltan(m): 8:45pm On Dec 06, 2023
zombieHUNTER:
undecided

we know Benin people originally owns Lagos

no history book written by a cone head will erase it

I guess you’re Igbo. You people don’t like peace
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:46pm On Dec 06, 2023
Beuberry:

What's the big deal if Awori paid tax to Benins?
It has been established that Awori and Benins had war. The fact here is everything Lagos signifies Yorubas.
And the Benin history too, aren't they aboriginal Yorubas?
So what's the problem of everyone disrespecting Yorubas?

Benin yorubas were

Clown
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by greggng: 8:46pm On Dec 06, 2023
Raf4:


All the Bini obas' heads were buried in Ile-Ife (Orun Oba Ado shrine) except that of Akenzua II and Ereduawa II. So what's your point?


This your fake news has been disputed and trashed . You have no evidence if this ...a notable traditional rule in edo state has made it clear that such never happened in the Benin empire history . You are trying to deceive people with fake news. Google can't even help you this time .
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:47pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:



Even the Ogiso dynasty and Igodomigodo was founded by Ile Ife


grin

If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of Benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished Benin Palace Praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Read this

About ogiso
As we may have it Benin wasn't organised or a powerful kingdom in the early times, in the beginning they were several villages who had Thier various leaders called ogiso they were several ogiso( sky kings) in the various settlement of Benin. at this time Benin was not one, the various settlement with their own ogiso existed independently. there were no one ruler, until a man called evian, killed a spiritual beast that had been disturbing the various villages surrounding Benin. which the various Ogiso heads couldn't handle and he found favour in the Benin community and the villagers came together to make him the oba of igodo. he ascended the throne as eweka the first
He was blessed with mystical powers and the people likened him as the son of a God, the Ogiso who refused to surrender their sovereignty where forced and the kingdom was formed, this several ogiso heads became chiefs in the new kingdom called ogidomigofo
Which later renamed as edo during oba ewaure reign and turned Benin during the Portuguese arrival who had corrupted Ile binu from the itsekiri warnings that had earlier told them not to venture into Benin City during their arrival and inquisition about the edo people
Years after eweka had died his son expanded the kingdom further Benin on several occasion
Lost some villages under the kingdom that had to be brought back through force, the king of the sea (ogiamen) was a powerful ruler who had ruled the river banks of Benin is territory was independent of Benin even when the Benin kingdom was long establish, oba ewakpe who was a conquerer had waged war on his kingdom that lasted for years but his kingdom was too strong to be defeated lots of lives was lost until an agreement was reached by the ogiamen that Benin would one day take over his territory which was a sure thing, because Benin was flourishing and expanding unlike his territory and that if they have to join Benin that the oba of Benin would respect is terms,and that every oba that ascends the throne would always come and buy his sovereignty from his family at every coronation in terms of paying homage and that if the contract is broken they can choose to live the kingdom, this practice continued for centuries until after Benin empire was brought down by the British and that tradition was stopped by the oba, the only way the ogiame family could use to attack the oba was by false acclimation Of his illegitimacy

Just the way the yoruba were brought into one canopy by awolowo during the formation of Nigeria so as evian who became the first oba of Benin united the kingdom

The Benin kingdom consist of the 36 Benin families

The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co....

The yorubas and other tribes that have issues with the oba of Benin would always use the screenshot to support their claims that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, not until you ask them, if there is any trace of yoruba titles or names or even idols in the oba palace that can trace that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, then they will be left dumbfounded
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 8:49pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:



Tapa Laduji Oshodi was not a Benin General
He was the Balogun of Lagos

Here is his Great Grandson Abisoye Oshodi

Insisting that Benin People never founded Lagos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45036eXf7hQ?si=Cu_aqcMNR7WqdCmY


Oshodi was the Benin general who led the conquest of lagos

And I heard the oba of lagos gave him the name oshodi

Wherever he got the name from I don't know but definitely I know it's not from wherever you think he got it from
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by bigwig071(m): 8:51pm On Dec 06, 2023
We all know yorubas are noise makers... they only love to overhype nonsense... they are now editing history worthless set of cowards
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by steeltrust: 8:52pm On Dec 06, 2023
Na pride just de worry benin people just because of their conquest might they have back in the days

I don’t know why benin like claiming every where
When they don’t even have a footprint their

The only place benin founded is their present location in edo state the rest where forcefully taken or conquered they should stop spreading lies

Although I respect the oba of Benin so much but that doesn’t me I’ll agree with him on issues like this

Benin ever discovered Lagos
They conquered some part and that it
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by ogbe88(m): 8:56pm On Dec 06, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
Oldest history books say Yoruba not Benin founded Lagos



https://punchng.com/oldest-history-books-say-yoruba-not-benin-founded-lagos/


The Op and the idiots that liked this page are all pathetic lairs.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 8:56pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:

ozuor
na waste of time engaging u guys
the brain is just too shallow

so because Obagodo has a meaning in yoruba, therefore he is yoruba? grin

if obagodo is from ife, how come oduduwa that founded ife came 1050 plus but obagodo reigned 40 BCE ?

Is it that u guys are so stupid in that region?

so ife already existed before oduduwa found it ?grin
so obagodo have to go to benin from ife to formed benin while his 32 lineage oduduwa after a thousand years later have to return back to found ife again grin grin

stupidity at it peak

Idiot. As usual, resorted to insult. Who told you Oduduwa established Ile-Ife? Oduduwa only came later to establish a dynasty that is still in existence today all over Yorubaland.
When your lies are burst and you're presented with factual evidence, be open to learning and be humble to accept corrections. Resorting to insult is an indication of a faulty claim on your part.
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 9:02pm On Dec 06, 2023
Thebadpolitican:



Oshodi was the Benin general who led the conquest of lagos

And I heard the oba of lagos gave him the name oshodi

Wherever he got the name from I don't know but definitely I know it's not from wherever you think he got it from


This is Balogun Landuji Tapa Oshodi
He was never in the Benin Army
He never fought against Lagos but always for it

Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 9:03pm On Dec 06, 2023
greggng:



This your fake news has been disputed and trashed . You have no evidence if this ...a notable traditional rule in edo state has made it clear that such never happened in the Benin empire history . You are trying to deceive people with fake news. Google can't even help you this time .

Picture of the shine has been posted here severally. You can also Google for it. Have you ever seen the tomb of any Oba of Bini b4? Dey play
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 9:06pm On Dec 06, 2023
Christistruth00:



This is Balogun Landuji Tapa Oshodi
He was never in the Benin Army
He never fought against Lagos but always for it


I never said he was who said he was

The name oshodin is an edo name stop playing young oshogbo man
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Omobude244: 9:07pm On Dec 06, 2023
Raf4:


Idiot. As usual, resorted to insult. Who told you Oduduwa established Ile-Ife? Oduduwa only came later to establish a dynasty that is still in existence today all over Yorubaland.
When your lies are burst and you're presented with factual evidence, be open to learning and be humble to accept corrections. Resorting to insult is an indication of a faulty claim on your part.
lolz
ozuor say evidence grin grin

please where are the evidence

if obagodo was from ife, how did he came about, who are his parents in ife? which year did he migrate to benin to found igodomigodo?
or he fell from heaven and landed in ife and headed to benin immediately grin grin
i am waiting for ur answers since u said u have facts grin
i want all this answers to be listed along side the dates

i have never seen a region so filled with liars, propagandist like the yoruba region
tufiakwa
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 9:08pm On Dec 06, 2023
infofta:
The first Oba of Ile Ife was a Bini Prince who left Bini Kingdom during a dispute/fight for the throne. The same Ife Yoruba people trace their origin to.

Answer this if you belive in that crap

provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefactal wise, Note Europeans documented every aspect of Benin life including food, human scrafice, her civil wars the Europeans ethnograpger visited the Benins palace from their first arrival till the fall of the empire, but how come they didn't see Benin-ife Connection, Benin carrying their dead oba heads to Ife throughout 400years contact with Benins


Read this
The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Christistruth00: 9:08pm On Dec 06, 2023
Thebadpolitican:



I never said he was who said he was

The name oshodin is an edo name stop playing young oshogbo man


That was the Balogun Oshodi of Lagos
he never was in the Benin Army
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Thebadpolitican(m): 9:10pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:

every Edo man, dead or alive knows we own Eko

right from childhood, we were already told in school in Edo language and heritage

I love this the rest Benin people are cowards can't even come out to defend themselves against weaklings our ancestors put in place centuries ago
Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 9:11pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:

lolz
ozuor say evidence grin grin

please where are the evidence

if obagodo was from ife, how did he came about, who are his parents in ife? which year did he migrate to benin to found igodomigodo?
or he fell from heaven and landed in ife and headed to benin immediately grin grin
i am waiting for ur answers since u said u have facts grin
i want all this answers to be listed along side the dates

i have never seen a region so filled with liars, propagandist like the yoruba region
tufiakwa

He came from Obadio family in Ile-Ife or do you know the name of his parents in igodomigodo?

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