No wonder all him ushers dey seduce person .. Very soon he will say prostitution is not a sin but a job..lol

How many smoker & drunkards are fill with Holy Ghost. Mr. Man stop deceiving people .

Sum1 shld help me summarise dis lengthy passage.

haa pastor!!!

@op,dis is simply unacceptable...are these the only messages that d pastor has preached on??
wat about the other inspiring messages tot by him...do we take delight in criticizing odas and yet u havent touched anyone's life...

Am surprised people still find time to sit in debating and analyzing God's Prophets. What do they know about sin? Is God after the mistakes you make as a born again Christian or does He look out for the rejuvenated you, seeking to bring the lost back into the kingdom? I only have this question to ask you: Are you born again and do you have the Holy Spirit live in you? If yes, then there wouldn't have been any need for this long mind-confusing essay, which will only end up winning souls for the kingdom of darkness. Do a serious rethink about this, stop being sin conscious and give righteousness a chance. Its not by power nor might but by the spirit, says the Lord.

Please for God sake,the end is here... Never make anyone your standard. Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith... In everything You're doing,let this be your guide... 'WHAT WILL JESUS DO'

Since "Godakhilome" has declared that "self-service" is not a sin, I need to go service myself . I'll be right back.

@OP

Thanks...u have done what u should do and i commend u for the write up.

Let those who are confused pray for wisdom and understanding.

been trying to quit smoking n alcohol 4 yrs wout success until i got 2 christ emb. 7yrs ago where i first heard its not a sin! stayed on in d church much out of curiosity about d new doctrine but hey, today i dont drink, dont smoke n i cant even tell when d habit left me, all i know is in christ embassy i learnt that dis things dont give glory to God....d habits left me through d words i heard there- ''ye are clean through d words which i have spoken unto you''-scripture!

manmacho: this is a sublte way of criticising the pastor. as if this is the only message he had ever preached. talk abaout his passion for the gospel and all the good work hes been doing and stop picking holes like a crab, if you seek holes in peoples message you will surely get them . don't make yourself editor in chief of MOGs they are responsible to God.

You re on point. Is dis de only preaching he has done? Haba!

brilapluz: @op,dis is simply unacceptable...are these the only messages that d pastor has preached on??
wat about the other inspiring messages tot by him...do we take delight in criticizing odas and yet u havent touched anyone's life...

Seconded

New Age Christian teachings, preparing the way for the New World Order.

I think in my own opinio that nothing created by God is intrinsically bad,the problem is,how do you use these things?To what end is the intended use? Abuse,lack of moderation which simply would mean going against the primary divine injunction INCREASE AND MULTIPLY,SUBDUE THE EARTH AND CONQUERE IT,Be the master;;;;;;this is in my opinion the interest and emphasis.I f in using these things I fail to be in control,using the divine intelligence given to me at creation which likens me to God ,created in his image and likeness,meaning I represent God here,I carry the spark of God in me,God has honoured ,elevated me to be a master,I stoop down,debased to behave in a manner obtainable among animals,then there is a big problem.Matters of faith,morals are not easy nuts to crack.

bluepro: In not holding brief for anyone, l like to ask this question: if Pastor Chris said that smoking is not a sin and u don't smoke, will u then start smoking? If he said that drinking alcohol is not a sin, will u then start drinking if don't? Let's be very clear on what he said, he was expessly asked if self service is a sin and he answered no, but did not say it is right. There was a follow up to this issue as a result of the reaction it created, which nobody have mentioned. If we go by the bible, cigarette smoking was not mentioned and cannot be called a Sin, but does it make smoking right? No! Is it okay to eat food? Yes. Can eating of food becoming a sin? Yes (when one turns to a glutton).

I am not really a big fan of this debate but i am attracted by the bold part.
That comparison is wrong. Food in moderation is good but you cannot say same for smoking. Even passive smoking has been proven to be harmful to the human body. Taking in stuff that is harmful to the body in any dose whatsoever is a violation of God's temple (your body).
If the argument was made for alcohol vis a vis food, i would understand. There are even scriptures that admonishes and glorifies wine. The issue is moderation.Most avoid drinking as moderation is hard to determine.

meji.inc:
Am surprised people still find time to sit in debating and analyzing God's Prophets. What do they know about sin? Is God after the mistakes you make as a born again Christian or does He look out for the rejuvenated you, seeking to bring the lost back into the kingdom? I only have this question to ask you: Are you born again and do you have the Holy Spirit live in you? If yes, then there wouldn't have been any need for this long mind-confusing essay, which will only end up winning souls for the kingdom of darkness. Do a serious rethink about this, stop being sin conscious and give righteousness a chance. Its not by power nor might but by the spirit, says the Lord.

Your comment reminded me of a famous quote by one of the greatest Christian apologetic that ever lived;
"There are two equal and opposite errors into which our race can fall about the devils. One is to disbelieve in their existence. The other is to believe, and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them. They themselves are equally pleased by both errors and hail a materialist or a magician with the same delight."
- C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
I see your point about sin consciousness but ignoring the fact that sin is an issue simply because you are born again is like swinging from one extreme to the other. The devil loves both extremes,as long as you are not in the middle.

abasifo:

Masturbation definitely involves constant lustful imaginations which the victim indulges in as a means of vitiating sexual pressures. Students of demonology have discovered that those sexual images which follow masturbation are actually pictures from the marine world juxtaposed on the persons’ sub-conscious and he begins to imagine some sexy looking man or woman. Some persons get initiated into the company of a spirit husband or wife after orgies of masturbation. In addition, a masturbator will definitely get tired of the self indulgence and would want to experiment with actual sex, leading to fornication or adultery.

http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/17608/56/pastor-chris-oyakhilomes-theory-of-alcoholism-and-.html

Say what ?

What is good & bad is written in our hearts too that's why we have guilty conscience whenever we do wrong. What satan uses to get us human beings is what he knows that satisfies or makes the flesh happy and masturbation can be one of them. Satan always use our flesh to take us away from God and most of the time we find it hard to resist.

bluepro: In not holding brief for anyone, l like to ask this question: if Pastor Chris said that smoking is not a sin and u don't smoke, will u then start smoking? If he said that drinking alcohol is not a sin, will u then start drinking if don't? Let's be very clear on what he said, he was expessly asked if self service is a sin and he answered no, but did not say it is right. There was a follow up to this issue as a result of the reaction it created, which nobody have mentioned. If we go by the bible, cigarette smoking was not mentioned and cannot be called a Sin, but does it make smoking right? No! Is it okay to eat food? Yes. Can eating of food becoming a sin? Yes (when one turns to a glutton).

There are certain things that cannot be openly said about God and the bible, in order not to mislead pple, but can be said to those that have received salvation, because they now inderstand and will not go back and start doing that which they weren't doing simply because they now understand better. Can a Pastor drink beer? Yes! Can/shd he drink beer publicly? No! Not because he is pretending, but because the unsaved won't understand.

Pastor Chris' messeage on self-service, alcoholism, smoking etc are primarily directed to his members who understand/shd understand and knw how to tackle such questions when faced by them outside. It wasn't a green card to go and practice them. Jesus was asked if it was right to pay tax, He was able to answer with wisdom because he was a Man of knowlege. That said, l believe everyone's purpose shd be to knw God personally and He will guide u on what is good or bad. He will dwell in u. Thanks.

bluepro: In not holding brief for anyone, l like to ask this question: if Pastor Chris said that smoking is not a sin and u don't smoke, will u then start smoking? If he said that drinking alcohol is not a sin, will u then start drinking if don't? Let's be very clear on what he said, he was expessly asked if self service is a sin and he answered no, but did not say it is right. There was a follow up to this issue as a result of the reaction it created, which nobody have mentioned. If we go by the bible, cigarette smoking was not mentioned and cannot be called a Sin, but does it make smoking right? No! Is it okay to eat food? Yes. Can eating of food becoming a sin? Yes (when one turns to a glutton).

There are certain things that cannot be openly said about God and the bible, in order not to mislead pple, but can be said to those that have received salvation, because they now inderstand and will not go back and start doing that which they weren't doing simply because they now understand better. Can a Pastor drink beer? Yes! Can/shd he drink beer publicly? No! Not because he is pretending, but because the unsaved won't understand.

Pastor Chris' messeage on self-service, alcoholism, smoking etc are primarily directed to his members who understand/shd understand and knw how to tackle such questions when faced by them outside. It wasn't a green card to go and practice them. Jesus was asked if it was right to pay tax, He was able to answer with wisdom because he was a Man of knowlege. That said, l believe everyone's purpose shd be to knw God personally and He will guide u on what is good or bad. He will dwell in u. Thanks.

[quote author=bluepro]In not holding brief for anyone, l like to ask this question: if Pastor Chris said that smoking is not a sin and u don't smoke, will u then start smoking? If he said that drinking alcohol is not a sin, will u then start drinking if don't? Let's be very clear on what he said, he was expessly asked if self service is a sin and he answered no, but did not say it is right. There was a follow up to this issue as a result of the reaction it created, which nobody have mentioned. If we go by the bible, cigarette smoking was not mentioned and cannot be called a Sin, but does it make smoking right? No! Is it okay to eat food? Yes. Can eating of food becoming a sin? Yes (when one turns to a glutton).

There are certain things that cannot be openly said about God and the bible, in order not to mislead pple, but can be said to those that have received salvation, because they now inderstand and will not go back and start doing that which they weren't doing simply because they now understand better. Can a Pastor drink beer? Yes! Can/shd he drink beer publicly? No! Not because he is pretending, but because the unsaved won't understand.

Pastor Chris' messeage on self-service, alcoholism, smoking etc are primarily directed to his members who understand/shd understand and knw how to tackle such questions when faced by them outside. It wasn't a green card to go and practice them. Jesus was asked if it was right to pay tax, He was able to answer with wisdom because he was a Man of knowlege. That said, l believe everyone's purpose shd be to knw God personally and He will guide u on what is good or bad. He will dwell in u. Thanks 4 d explanation.

dis pentecostal churches are just business centres,from collecting tithes to sowing seeds to pastor's birthday celebration the use it as an avenue to maximize profit.

@bluepro....tnx alot for dat clearificatn, @Op....criticizing & judgin men of God nt gud & u can release d wrath of God on urself, please flee frm such act & beg God for forgiveness........even catholicism does not condemn alcohol & smokin either & u didnt voice dat in ur article....d truth of d matter is dat wen Pastor Chris speaks, everyone listens, so dnt try to get unnecessry attentn by condemnin him....stop d hate & embrace CHRIST. Goodday

princecemo: IM NOT SURPRISED AT ALL.... HE IS A CONFIRM MEMBER OF ILLUMINATIC SO WHAT DO U EXPECT. I ONLY FEEL FOR HIS FOLLOWERS. BULLSHIT.

GOD WILL JUDGE YOU.

....u jst dy type nonsense hw d u knw he belongs 2 illuminati.....talk is really cheap....

The bible says that we shall know the truth and the truth shall set us free. This is one of the reasons why we meet the Holyspirit. John 14 vs 26. When the spirit of truth comes, he shall bring all things to your remembrance. When we read the bible and understand the contents, we can not be misled by anyone.

May be Pastor Chris too drink and smoke hence the blasphemous statement he made. Most of Nigerian Pastors are nothing but agent of Satan pastor Chris and others inclusive.

omo,,,dis article is damn 2 long....it almost lost touch of its purpose,..

Smoking, drinking not sin jor!!! Don't see it in ma bible plus its no reason one shuld......

wordychap: been trying to quit smoking n alcohol 4 yrs wout success until i got 2 christ emb. 7yrs ago where i first heard its not a sin! stayed on in d church much out of curiosity about d new doctrine but hey, today i dont drink, dont smoke n i cant even tell when d habit left me, all i know is in christ embassy i learnt that dis things dont give glory to God....d habits left me through d words i heard there- ''ye are clean through d words which i have spoken unto you''-scripture!

word

pastor chris is right, i belive in evry thing he say concernin the bible and its teaching, stop all this rubish abt this man of God becouse he knows the word more than you guys in the NL, so listen to him carefully u will get what he is trying to explan, period.

WE NEED AN EMOTICON FOR SLEEP

@poster, if you cant interpret his word,then dont judge him.. Pls dont twist people's mind.. Be warned

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