Lakpenne:

david:

I still don't get UR point.  Do not take Jews as protectors.  no, you must know what that means.  As for friends.  ITs says do not take them as friends over Muslims.  I would think you should not take a Muslim as a friend over a Christians or as a protector over a Christian.

You dishonest sons of belial think that by much talking you can go around the issues?
Qur'an 9:30 "And the Jews say: ‘Uzair (Ezra) is the son of God, and the Christians say: the Messiah is the son of God. That is their saying with their mouths, resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allah Curse them! [Allah fight them!] how they are deluded away from the truth!

And you turn around and claim the biblical Jewish mighty men as your own "prophets"? Allah has serious issues!
Of course you wont "get my point" . . . the minute you do your religion built entirely on falsehood crashes like a pack of cards.

You celebrate salah . . . based on the attempted sacrifice of ishmael by the islamic abraham . . . why then is islam entirely built around the descendants of Isaac and not ishmael? Come back to tell me you dont "get my point" like you hypocrites do when the quran has run out of lies to tell.

Lakpenne:

Ha, Ha, Ha. LOL.  You site the Bible as a source of historical accounts.  The Bible gives like five diferent lineages of Jesus. Give me a flipping break.  Ever thought the Bible got it wrong?  Eyewitnesses?  Please.  Like we say here in the hoo -niggah pleeez.  YUou must be kidding me.  You don't even know what side of yur book is up.  At least we have the smae book and can trace it back to the original source.  The Bible?  The Bible?  You must be smoking crack.

1. try tracing the STORIES in that small book of yours to anytime beyond allah's bogus "revelations".

2. The bible gives only 2 lineages of Jesus Christ - - i wont be drawn into that argument for the benefit of blind bats like you, it is simply the ploy u pple use to divert the topic when you get stuck on your deciet.

Lakpenne:

So.  Allah so favored the Jews and look how they treated Him.  

haha what a dishonest liar! Allah favored the jews? How? How did the jews "treat him" and why? Their is no jewish record of anyone like allah and you cry that allah "favored" them?
How did allah favor them? Because there was no biblical account of ishmael to "Reveal" to mohamadu?

Lakpenne:

So which story do you think is the best story from which to learn how to behave.  The story of those whom Allah gave much and they disobeyed or the story of someone else.  

Remove your head from the clouds of al taqqiyah! What commandment of allah's did the jews disobey? Why did allah choose to "give much" to the jews only to curse them later?

Lakpenne:

Obviously the former.  Allah is telling us, look how many Prophets and blessings I sent to the jews and I honored them and chose them an look at their behavior.  Oh Muslims, oh Muslims, do not behave like this.

today na today! Where did allah say the above in ur quran or you are just picking rabbits out of ur hat?  
Now that allah has "cursed" the jews where are the ishmaelite replacements as "prophets"?

You earlier said that allah only blessed the lineage of Joseph . . . what about the other 11 sons of Jacob? Allah forgot to bless them? BUT he remembered to pick "prophets" from their lineage too?

Lakpenne:

Do not be like the Jews and say I am poor or follow your Rabbi and Priests when they change the laws of Allah.

allah hates the jews because they said he was poor?  

Lakpenne:

This is why the Quran is replete with such stories.  And depsite all of that, Muslims still do it (some, not all.  we see it all over the place and I am not ashamed to point out when Muslims behave badly nor slow in defending Islam vigorously)

and NOT one single story about the man on whom salah is based?   what a forgetful allah this is!

Lakpenne:

Again, where is my explanation for where Jesus said don't praise me.  Where is my explanation for why Jesus would cry out to himslef when he is supposed to be God or why he would be tempted by satan when he is supposed to be God.  Did he forget his lines or something?  This is huge stuff cause is smacks right in the face of the trinity and the anthropomorphication of Allah that Christians are fond of doing.

good attempt to deflect your tomfoolnery. Read post #73 and stop crying.
Pls answer my question first! You pple like to ask without answering anything!

david:

"good attempt to deflect your tomfoolnery. Read post #73 and stop crying.
Please answer my question first! You people like to ask without answering anything!"

U don't have a question, just an opinion. I thought U were smart. I asked the questions first - remember? Tawhid? Why do I care about the Bible v. Quran right now when you have not even answered the essential question of Jesus being God.

I am lazy and don't want to look for #73. Just tell me in two sentences who Jesus was calling out to and why he cried like a little girl. Come on. God, craying out like that. That's idiotic. Please explain.

Finally, why are you not a Jew, please answer.

As for the Quran and the lineage, you answered your questions. Who care about what the Bible has to say that contradicts the Quran. The Bible is not God's word. That's like comparing my work with Shakespeare. The Bible is useless man made babble and you know it. I don't even know why Muslims defend themselves against the Bible since the Bible is nonsense that's not even God's word and Christians have admitted to this.

The Bible was, key word was, the word of God. What you have in your hand today, not it. Its English googlagobligook.

U R useless. Please go away unless you want to talk about serious issued like Tawhid, which is all that matters in this world. Why. Because your Go belief is why you are not a Hindu - whom you call polytheistists. You are no less a polytheist as your supposed God came to earth in the form of man in the same way the Hindu god comes to earth in the form of a monkey or pig or cow, or penis, or any silly thing that He is above.

Lakpenne:

You have never seen me on Nairaland before, so I am obviously new here. I don't know how to check for post #73, so you can kindly send or cut/paste it for me. I seriously doubt it was from you or that it answered the question anyway. I am very eager to read it.

sit there pretending you havent seen it. You're not the first person to use this well worn trick of never "seeing" any answers even when they stare u in the face. You're new to NL, you dont know how to check for post #73 and YET you have posted 2 topics here unassisted?  
Mohamadu taught you the art of deception quite well.

Lakpenne:

If you believe all the Prophets came from the line of the Jews and there is no history of Prophets, then why are you asking where are the Prophets from Ishmael. Obviously by your accounts, there are none. And if there are non, that's why Allah did not mention them. LOL. You are truly an unbridled idiot. (get it, unbridled?) LOL.

Its' not a question of belief. ALL the "prophets" that islam attempts to plagiarize were all Jews, their histories are carefully documented in the bible. Of course we cant find the histories in the quran neither can we locate their prophecies nor the "revelations" allah alleged to have sent to them in the quran.
You sad little man, when is the truth of islam's fraud going to hit u in the face? When you are standing on your mythical "bridge" over hell ala Sura 17:91?

Lakpenne:

As for the Allah cursing the Jews, you must be kidding me. Why are you not a Jew? Please answer that question and you will see my point. You always merely offer stupid quibs and jabs and insults with no analysis nor a cognizable point. Dude, you are getting smacked.

What has my being a jew or not got to do with allah's cursing of the very Jews he claimed to have blessed and from whom he sourced his "prophets"?

Lakpenne:

Before you quote the Bible again, please let me see an original copy or at least a replica of the original or at least a preseve copy in the same language. Like Allah says, you have no clear book and that bothers you. So, instead of defending that, you atttack the Quran.

Surah [5:110] GOD will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary, remember My blessings upon you and your mother. I supported you with the Holy Spirit, to enable you to speak to the people from the crib, as well as an adult. I taught you the scripture, wisdom, the Torah, and the Gospel. Recall that you created from clay the shape of a bird by My leave, then blew into it, and it became a live bird by My leave. You healed the blind and the leprous by My leave, and revived the dead by My leave. Recall that I protected you from the Children of Israel who wanted to hurt you, despite the profound miracles you had shown them. The disbelievers among them said, `This is obviously magic.'

When you show me the "torah" and "gospel" allah claims to have taught Jesus in that verse then i will produce my original copy of the bible. and pls dont come up with the usual excuse that they are now lost! Surely allah would have kept his precious documents just like he preserved the quran no?

Lakpenne:

Seriously though I would like you to answer the Question of why you are not a Jew.

Tell me why you are not an arab first.

Lakpenne:

You don't have a question, just an opinion. I thought You were smart. I asked the questions first - remember? Tawhid? Why do I care about the Bible v. Quran right now when you have not even answered the essential question of Jesus being God.

aha i was wondering when you would revert to the old trick of "answer me first".
Your questions were well taken care off in the first 2 threads . . . of course the islamic default position is to continue crying "you have not answered me" boohoo hoo. I wont continue to indulge you sons of mohamadu the village thug.

Lakpenne:

I am lazy and don't want to look for #73. Just tell me in two sentences who Jesus was calling out to and why he cried like a little girl. Come on. God, craying out like that. That's idiotic. Please explain.

Go to post #73.

Lakpenne:

Finally, why are you not a Jew, please answer.

In good time, when you tell me why you are not an arab.

Lakpenne:

As for the Quran and the lineage, you answered your questions. Who care about what the Bible has to say that contradicts the Quran. The Bible is not God's word. That's like comparing my work with Shakespeare. The Bible is useless man made babble and you know it. I don't even know why Muslims defend themselves against the Bible since the Bible is nonsense that's not even God's word and Christians have admitted to this.

no no. Dont let your confusion and shame of face make this what it is not. I wasnt asking nothing relating to the bible. Nah, all my questions so far have been based solely on the drivel found in ur quran.
Who cares whether the bible contradicts the quran? As far as i'm concerned the quran is not a book my dog shld be bothered about except of course in "tolerant, peace loving" islamic nations.

you say the bible is useless . . . no problem. I'm only asking why ALL islam's prophets are taken directly from that same "useless" bible and NOT a single one from the ishmael you all claim as the progenitor of islam!

Lakpenne:

You R useless. Please go away unless you want to talk about serious issued like Tawhid, which is all that matters in this world. Why. Because your Go belief is why you are not a Hindu - whom you call polytheistists. You are no less a polytheist as your supposed God came to earth in the form of man in the same way the Hindu god comes to earth in the form of a monkey or pig or cow, or privates, or any silly thing that He is above.

hahahaha finally when you cant hide your shame again you resort to cheap adhominems! Tawhid is all that matters in the world? It doesnt matter that allah has been decieving u all along?
It doesnt matter to u that all the prophets you cry about are from the jews allah has instructed you to hate, hunt down and kill?

Ye are of your father the devil!

david: Like I said, go away. You are good at crying but not at debating or arguing. Ad hominens? please. I know you are but what am I (I have to resort to childish things as I see you are one).

Umm, you must subscribe to the school that Jews are exclusively a race of people. The children of Israel are from a progeny but what Allah likes is that he alone is worshipped - which is what Christians do not do. When they deviated from this, Allah did became angry with them. If the Jews followed Allah's guidance, they would be safe. Obviously the Prophets folowed it and they were sent to guide them. This is why we love them. They are free from the errors of the people they seek to guide.

The Christians are misguided. They love God much but they have no evidence or clear book. I admire the Christian love for worship. Unfortunately its misguded worship of a man.

I like how you say the Quran is a fraud and all you have is the Bible.

I am not an Arab cause I was not born one. You were born a Muslim - one who submits to the wil of God. You are not a Jew cause yu reject them for rejecting Jesus. Likewise, we reject you for rejecting God. You have the old testament ( a facsimile thereof) and you reject the Jewish belief - haaaah. They have their hebrew origninals and you have nothing

Tell me again why I am debating about the Bible? BTW, I never said that everything in the Bible was a lie. What I am saying though is that there is so much lie in it, we don't know what is true and what is false, which is why the Quran is the criterion.

Peace

Lakpenne:

david: Like I said, go away. You are good at crying but not at debating or arguing. Ad hominens? please. I know you are but what am I (I have to resort to childish things as I see you are one).

Are your eyes begining to see the end of that fraud you call the quran?

Lakpenne:

what Allah likes is that he alone is worshipped -

Shango also likes this, Ifa, Ogun, the Hindu cows . . they all that they alone be worshipped. Why is allah crying to be treated specially?

Lakpenne:

which is what Christians do not do.

we don hear, thank you sir.

Lakpenne:

When they deviated from this, Allah did became angry with them.

allah is wasting precious time becoming angry with christians. Where was allah 2000yrs ago when Christ was going to the cross? Where was he during the time of paul?
Ye are of ur father the devil! For he is a liar from the begining.

Lakpenne:

If the Jews followed Allah's guidance, they would be safe. Obviously the Prophets folowed it and they were sent to guide them. This is why we love them. They are free from the errors of the people they seek to guide.

Nonsense! Where is the book allah used to guide the jews? Has he lost it? You hypocrites . . . how can you love the "prophets" and hate their children?

Lakpenne:

I like how you say the Quran is a fraud and all you have is the Bible.

I like how you say the bible is useless and all you have is a quran riddled with errors.

Lakpenne:

I am not an Arab cause I was not born one. You were born a Muslim - one who submits to the wil of God. You are not a Jew cause yu reject them for rejecting Jesus. Likewise, we reject you for rejecting God. You have the old testament ( a facsimile thereof) and you reject the Jewish belief - haaaah. They have their hebrew origninals and you have nothing

I was not born a muslim - the definition of a muslim is not one who submits to the will of God. It is one who DENIES the LORDSHIP of Jesus Christ!
I dont reject the jews . . . rather it is the sons of belial who reject them and have sworn on the lips of their dying prophet to destroy them from the face of the earth. Allah cursed the jews and you bleat that we reject them? such a shame!

The bible is transcribed directly from hebrew, aramaic and greek copies of the torah and other gospels. Ever heard of the dead sea scrolls?

Lakpenne:

Tell me again why I am debating about the Bible? BTW, I never said that everything in the Bible was a lie. What I am saying though is that there is so much lie in it, we don't know what is true and what is false, which is why the Quran is the criterion.

Stay one place! First you said the bible was a book of "useless interpretations" now that you cant find the copies of the torah and injil allah lied to have taught to Jesus you now come here prevaricating.
Ye are of ur father the devil!

Lakpenne:

peace

Isaiah 48:22 There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked

david:

Just read pst 73.  I neevr saw it but I did read it now.

Honestly, that is the biggest bunch of bulshit I have heard in a longtime.  Jesus was speaking in the 3rd person depsite speaking in the first in the same sentence.  Nice try.  That was one of the most ridiculous shit attempts I have seen at interpreting a verse.   Again, niggah please

3rd person he says.  LOL.  My God, you are as dumb as you sound (sorry for the ad hominens but that was a classic beyond me).  So sometimes Jesus talks about God as himslef and others he says, don't worship me worship God.  How about "worship me as your God."  

That was some real Bullshit, I gotta send this one to Penn and Teller cause its a riot.  Please don't ever speak to me again in your life as I see you are a dishonest twit.  3rd peroson?  3rd person.  niggah pleeeeeeeeeeez.

I know, I know.  Liar liar pants on fire.  that's all you have had to say since we started.  

Oh, before  I forget.  You are the one who alerted me to the verse  about "why have you forsaken me"  Or was Jesus talkin  in the 3rd again.  "why have I forsakeen myself."  Real riot.  That Jeuss that you speak about deserves to be in a nut house.

[size=14pt]See confusion above! [/size]

sEE CONFUSION? LOL. FORGOT ONE THING. YOU AKSED TO TRY BEING BORN OF A VIRGIN BIRTH. SO?

TRY BEING BORN FROM NO MOTHER LIKE ADAM YET WE DON'T WORSHIP HIM. HOW ABOUT GOD ALOUD HIM TO BE BORN OF A VIRGIN MARY AS A SIGN OF HIS GREATNESS AND INDEED HE WAS GREAT. RATHER YOU INTERPRET THAT AS BEING GO. IF HE WAS GOD, HE WOULD NOT EVEN NEED TO BE BORN. YOU ARE A PURE BIG TALKER WHEN IT DOES NOT COUNT AND WHEN YOU ARE ENJOYING ATTACKS ON ISLAM BUT WHEN IT SOME TO TAWHID AND GO BELIEF, YOU ARE A PURE BULLSHITTER. LET ME GUESS, JESUS CAME AS A SON OF A VIRGIN IN THE 3RD PERSON.

GO AWAY.

Lakpenne:

sEE CONFUSION? LOL. FORGOT ONE THING. YOU AKSED TO TRY BEING BORN OF A VIRGIN BIRTH. SO?

TRY BEING BORN FROM NO MOTHER LIKE ADAM YET WE DON'T WORSHIP HIM.

You're not smart, you worsen it by being dishonest! Did anyone tell you adam was "born"? Was he not created?

Oh by the way how did your quran say he was created again?
a. water
b. blood clot
c. sand
d. spoken into existence

davidylan:

You're not smart, you worsen it by being dishonest! Did anyone tell you adam was "born"? Was he not created?

Oh by the way how did your quran say he was created again?
a. water
b. blood clot
c. sand
d. spoken into existence

It's obvious lakpene was from water.
at least his brain is filled with nothing but satchets of 'pure water'

@olabowale:

If you can contribute anything tangible, please stay on the sideline.
Cheer people on, but be polite about it. When i said Gods, you should know that
the Christians have considered to be God, in part be cause of the name
Emmanuel. Yet he never was referred to as Emmanual by his piers. Thats why
playfully referred to Oluwasegun, etc as such. This is an obvious point. Think about
it, man!

I beg, can somebody please translate what Olabowale wrote?

Uncle Ola's mind usually means one thing but his hands write another!

@Cgift: Right. You read my mind, exactly. You have even graduated to the
level of Jesus of the Bible. You have even become higher and better. Afterall
there is a verse in the Bible that says that you might even do a bigger miracles,
if you believe in Jesus. So my brother in Ikorodu, what am I doing by the time you
are reading this post? What kind of clothing am I wearing and how many people in
immediate area?

If you don't know it 100%, which I am sure you will not be able to do, then you are
a dishonest person and living in delusion. You should quite your religion and come to
where there is no arrogance and one depends sole on God the Almighty.

@FSB; If you have any form of education, even primary school, did you not know that
you have to be sometimes read between the lines? Was your head split open and the
put the little amount of knowledge you have in it? You can think beyond the four corners
of the page? If your type of knowledge and resources are what is available to Nigeria's
future, then we are yet to hit the bottom!

All of you try so much to deflect the topic, just because you can not in good conscience
present any valid argument, why you accept that God must be one. And He will do everything,
even so imitate His creation so much so that He came down on earth. And the only purpose
He did come to the earth was to be able to learn about the difficulties He had imposed on them,
one one hand so that He may know how to forgive them. But then He also came to die for their
sins, by the way of cruxificion.

One is left to wonder, if just coming to learn about this earthly way is not enough for Him to know
that he need to be lenient and overlook the major and minor sins of His creations,in the day of
Judgement? Why does He have to die, in addition to the earthly experience? It seems to a thinking
mind that each of these two events, the dying and the earthly experience, is wholly enough to
guarantee Paradise to any one who believes in just one of the events. Yet the Christians can tell
us that everyone of them will enter Paradise. There is no guarantee of it in the Bible. If there is
one wonders what happens to a man or woman who died while committing adultery, or any of the
other major sins, eg, murdering of innocent people, eating up the properties of orphans, consuming
interest and all kinds of evil acts?

Will this Man-God forgive all of these or what?

@Davidylan:

You dishonest sons of belial think that by much talking you can go around the issues?
Qur'an 9:30 "And the Jews say: ‘Uzair (Ezra) is the son of God, and the Christians say: the Messiah is the son of God. That is their saying with their mouths, resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allah Curse them! [Allah fight them!] how they are deluded away from the truth!

And you turn around and claim the biblical Jewish mighty men as your own "prophets"? Allah has serious issues!
Of course you wont "get my point" . . . the minute you do your religion built entirely on falsehood crashes like a pack of cards.

You celebrate salah . . . based on the attempted sacrifice of ishmael by the islamic abraham . . . why then is islam entirely built around the descendants of Isaac and not ishmael? Come back to tell me you don't "get my point" like you hypocrites do when the quran has run out of lies to tell.

David, you think through, you will know that the process of Hajj, for starter, is based on Ibrahiim, Ismail and Hagars experiences. Secondly, the salah is
is not based on any of the israelite prophets. At least, not the five salah the muslims perform daily. The Zakah is also very different. The fasting is also different. I will not go into that because I will make fun of you. And I know that I do not want to start with that this morning. The Jewish fast of today is sundown to sundown. Muslims do not fast that way. We Muslims in One God, who is invisible and restricts Himself from doing somethings that do not befit His majesty. In every case you are 100% incorrect.

The Jewish mighty prophets are individuals, and they do not represent the individual conscience of the individual persons in the Jewish race. David your argument is not broadbased. You do not see anything with the inner mind. A prophet has no power to guide the heart, but is given the power and support to deliver the Blueprint of guidance. The revelations and instructions they are commanded to deliver is just that, a Blueprint. The children of Israel had multitude of chances to accept guidance. So did and some did not.

Your problem at this stage of your life is that your gear is stuck and you can shift it out of No. 1. If yiu live long enough, and I pray that you will, there is still a lot of living to do. Just maybe th light of guidiance may enter your heart. I WILL NOT GIVE UP HOPE ON YOU.

@Davidylan:

Quote from: Lakpenne on Today at 02:15:14 AM
what Allah likes is that he alone is worshipped -


Shango also likes this, Ifa, Ogun, the Hindu cows . . they all that they alone be worshipped. Why is allah crying to be treated specially? (So does your Man-God. He also cried that he be treated specially. But unashamely, you said that he died on the cross. Is that not a sign of weakness for a God?)

olabowale:

David, you think through, you will know that the process of Hajj, for starter, is based on Ibrahiim, Ismail and Hagars experiences. Secondly, the salah is
is not based on any of the israelite prophets.

Alhaji too much noise! You say the hajj and salah is based on Ismail and none of the isrealite prophets. Now is allah not a confused hypocrite?

why then are ALL his so-called "prophets" Jews?? NOT A SINGLE prophet from Ismail's descendants?

@Davidylan

Please accept Islam before its too late

combatant:

@Davidylan

Please accept Islam before its too late

so that i can start decieving myself like you sons of belial? no thanks.

I really dont have much to contribute right now, cause the truth is on the table, but for obvious reasons some people would not accept the truth, its been like that for years, whether we argue from now till Christ comes again, some people would not still accept the truth. The basis and foundation of christianity is this: "The Word Became Flesh and Dwelt among Us" I do not know of any other religion with that theme. God bless all the Defenders of Our faith.

@Martin007:If the 'WORD' became flesh and dwell with us, please tell me, what
happened to the ONE WHO SPOKE THE WORD?

1. Did He not have any ability to Speak in the maintime, Yes or No?
2. Did His further utterances have not the same value as the 'Word' that became flesh?
3. Now that His word has became flesh, has His power of authority gone, diminished or the same?
4. Did His word by becoming flesh became the power instead of the speaker?
5 Between the Speaker and the Word that became flesh, which is truly the Master?
6 When the word died, did the Speaker who spoke the Word died also?
7. When the Word was on the Cross was the Speaker also?
8 When the Word was being tried by the people and the authority,, the Speaker also?

My man, I have tons of questions, and we can do this all day and ll night. Please answer
each and every one from your conscience, not from your head/tongue, so as to safe face.

@David

why then are ALL his so-called "prophets" Jews?? NOT A SINGLE prophet from Ismail's descendants?

I can see that you are confused, short of knowledge and did not want to accept the last prophet because he was not a Jew. You should ask your fellow maybe they can provide answer to your infantile question.

alhaji olabowale . . .
you people are decietful hypocrites . . . see you listing questions 1,2, 3, . . . as if you have any shred of credibility left.
Did you answer the SINGLE question i posed above that all of you have conspired to ignore?

why then are ALL his so-called "prophets" Jews?? NOT A SINGLE prophet from Ismail's descendants?

babs787:

@David

I can see that you are confused, short of knowledge and did not want to accept the last prophet because he was not a Jew. You should ask your fellow maybe they can provide answer to your infantile question.

Ye are of your father the devil, for he is naught but a hireling and a liar from the begining.

Is that your answer to the question that has sent all of you ducking like the hypocrites you all are?
Why is Mohamadu the ONLY NON-JEW out of ALL allah's alleged prophets?
Muslims claim that Ishmael is the true first son of abraham and thus the heir of God's promise . . . WHY THEN did allah completely ignore the lineage of Ishmael . . . there is absolutely NOTHING on ishmael in the quran besides his relationship with abraham. No mention of his descendants, no prophets at all!

Rather Allah prefered to choose prophets from the very same Jews he cursed in the quran? [size=14pt]WHY?[/size]

Answer the questions and stop blustering like fools! Why shld i ask my fellow christians? Do they resemble allah's slaves?

@Davidylan:

Alhaji too much noise! You say the hajj and salah is based on Ismail and none of the isrealite prophets. Now is allah not a confused hypocrite?
why then are ALL his so-called "prophets" Jews?? NOT A SINGLE prophet from Ismail's descendants?                                                                                  

(Davidylan, Allah served up the best for last, in the
person of His and my beloved Muhammad bin Abdallah, Al Hashim, Al Quraish. May Allah make the light of guidance enter your heart. Amiin. Allah does and chooses as He pleases. Take the case of Moses, he was a fugitive and a tongue twisted man, withonly a stick to enact all the miracles. In the case of Jesus, it was a man who had no father, hence the best of the Jews were accusers of his mother to be a fornicator or worse an adulterer, yet all his miracle was without any external object, like Moses.  David, you avoid all the questions and you serve up a full plate all the time. Why, uh? Answer the questions when you are asked, old boy.)

And Allah cursed the Jews, for their evilness. No one can asked Him about what He does. Only if that person is a full and eager to be doomed. By the way, didn't the 'word' which became flesh said that the Jews were evil generation? Why don't you use the same yardstick to ask foolishly why would the 'word' that when he was a Jew himself? Notice how we refer to the'word' in past tense, but God in the present!

olabowale:

(Davidylan, Allah served up the best for last, in the
person of His and my beloved Muhammad bin Abdallah, Al Hashim, Al Quraish. May Allah make the light of guidance enter your heart. Amiin. Allah does and chooses as He pleases. Take the case of Moses, he was a fugitive and a tongue twisted man, withonly a stick to enact all the miracles. In the case of Jesus, it was a man who had no father, hence the best of the Jews were accusers of his mother to be a fornicator or worse an adulterer, yet all his miracle was without any external object, like Moses. David, you avoid all the questions and you serve up a full plate all the time. Why, uh? Answer the questions when you are asked, old boy.)

Alhaji you are a very dishonest man, sorry to say. You "demand" answers to your piffle dressed up as "questions" and when we ask you questions all you can say in response is "allah does and chooses as he pleases"?

WHERE are the descendants of Ishmael and what is their status as regards prophethood in islam? Answer and stop hiding behind your finger.
You have asked NO questions, stop demanding answers to piffle to cover your shame.

olabowale:

And Allah cursed the Jews, for their evilness. No one can asked Him about what He does. Only if that person is a full and eager to be doomed. By the way, didn't the 'word' which became flesh said that the Jews were evil generation? Why don't you use the same yardstick to ask foolishly why would the 'word' that when he was a Jew himself? Notice how we refer to the'word' in past tense, but God in the present!

the same jews from which he extracted ALL his prophets?
So to ask allah a question is to be doomed?

No u sons of belial . . . Jesus Christ said the jews were an evil generation for FORSAKING THE WAYS OF THE LORD! He never cursed them because they had already been blessed thru Abraham. If indeed Jesus regarded the Jews as accursed, why do you think He came as one?

Only muslims and their father the devil refer to the "Word" in past tense . . . it makes no difference . . . u cant change John 1!

@Davidylan: A quiz for you, was Adam a Jew?
How about Noah?
What about Ibrahim?
And Lut?
Ismael?
Isiaka?
Yakuub?
Yusuf? Mind you, one of his brothers was name Judah.
Moses, a levite or from the tribe of Judah?
What about his brother Haruun?

David do you know that after King and Prophet Solomon died and after the reign of his
son, or so, The territory of the children of Israel was divided to Israel and Judah, simply
by tribal heritage alone? Wouldn't this simply tell you that the Children of Israel are more than the
mere Jew, from the tribal authentic tradition of it.

Just as I am writing you this post, one of the children of Israel called me, as it is weekly tradition to do so.
I pklayfully tell him about what I am writing, that the Jews as a tribe is not truly the sum total of
the children of Israel. Please answer my many earlier questions about Deut 18;18 and The 3 prophets
that were asked from John son of Zachariah and the same questions served up to Jesus son of Mary.
What were their individual answers? And are both in agreement on each points? Who were the persons
that fulfilled the 3 expected prophets?

My honest, best and ONLY answer is this: Muhammad is enough from the Arabs to serve as the GUIDING LIGHT
for all mankind!

@Davidylan: Hear it again for the last time: First quantity does not
necessary mean quality. Further the first does not mean the best.

Muhammad (as), is the last and final Messenger of GOD. MUhammad was
sent to the whole world. He was not a tribal prophet. End of story.

Finally, he was from ISMAIL! That is the decision of God!

Now answer those questions. happy trails.

@DAvidylan: If Jesus did not curse them and from you maybe a warning, then
when I intend to warn you I will call you 'Evil generation.' That will the warning
code between you and me, Okay? I do not want to call you son of belial, because
I really will upset you, but not warning you.

olabowale:

@Davidylan: A quiz for you, was Adam a Jew?

Only that fraud called islam regards Adam as a "prophet". Adam was first created then his wife . . . who was Adam prophesying to? The lions, birds, fruits and leaves? WHERE ARE his prophecies in the quran? If indeed he was a "prophet" as mohamadu lied then SHOW US!

olabowale:

How about Noah?

Abraham descended from the lineage of Noah . . . on that score HE was a jew.

olabowale:

What about Ibrahim?

Abraham was the father of the Jews through the promised son Isaac . . . yes he was a jew!
By the way . . . Abraham was a "prophet" to whom? Where are his prophecies in the quran? Show us!

olabowale:

And Lut?

Lot is considered a prophet? Only the fraudulent quran will say that!

olabowale:

Ismael?

Ismael a jew? you must be off your rockers!

olabowale:

Isiaka?
Yakuub?
Yusuf? Mind you, one of his brothers was name Judah.
Moses, a levite or from the tribe of Judah?
What about his brother Haruun?

Jews are descendants of the 12 (TWELVE) tribes of Isreal NOT just of the tribe of Judah alone! Joshua took over leading the Jews after the death of Moses . . . he was of the tribe of Ephraim one of Joseph's sons. Was he not regarded as a jew?

olabowale:

David do you know that after King and Prophet Solomon died and after the reign of his
son, or so, The territory of the children of Israel was divided to Israel and Judah, simply
by tribal heritage alone? Wouldn't this simply tell you that the Children of Israel are more than the
mere Jew, from the tribal authentic tradition of it.

This is merely struggling desperately to defend the gaping holes in that your useless quran . . . jews encompass every member of the 12 tribes of Isreal whether divided into the kingdom of Judah or not.
Funny enough . . . that piece of history you quote is only to be found in the bible and NO WHERE in the quran! Seems you pple dont mind stealing a bit of the bible (the very book you claim is corrupted) to paper over your cracks when it suits u dishonest thieves.

Wait . . . you are here speaking about the history of the jews . . . where in the quran is the history of the Ishmealites? Did they have no kings too? Tell us something about their own kingdom . . . surely allah could not just have forgotten them only to remember them 4000yrs after the birth of ishmael!

olabowale:

Just as I am writing you this post, one of the children of Israel called me, as it is weekly tradition to do so.
I pklayfully tell him about what I am writing, that the Jews as a tribe is not truly the sum total of
the children of Israel. Please answer my many earlier questions about Deut 18;18 and The 3 prophets
that were asked from John son of Zachariah and the same questions served up to Jesus son of Mary.
What were their individual answers? And are both in agreement on each points? Who were the persons
that fulfilled the 3 expected prophets?

My honest, best and ONLY answer is this: Muhammad is enough from the Arabs to serve as the GUIDING LIGHT
for all mankind!

answer me, answer me! That is the only thing you tools can bring up, when we ask our questions you bury your head under the sands of "allah knows best". as if allah knows anything!

You spend a large and unhealthy amoung of time concerning urselves with the jews allah cursed in the quran. Let us say something about the ishmaelites! Allah's favorite son of abraham! oya bring out ur quran! Surely allah must have said something no matter how little.

olabowale:

Muhammad (as), is the last and final Messenger of GOD. MUhammad was
sent to the whole world. He was not a tribal prophet. End of story.

Oh really, and yet allah understands no other language but arabic? Indeed muhammed was sent to the whole world . . . by the devil to sow tares among the wheat. You will all grow till the harvest until you are bundled like chaff for the fire. Ask allah to build you a bridge when you get there.

olabowale:

Finally, he was from ISMAIL! That is the decision of God!

But a decision that should concern the rational! Why did allah forget all about ismail for 4000yrs?

olabowale:

Now answer those questions. happy trails.

that piffle you dress up as "questions" dont deserve an answer. Where are your own answers? allah knows best?

Jesus too knows best!

olabowale:

@DAvidylan: If Jesus did not curse them and from you maybe a warning, then
when I intend to warn you I will call you 'Evil generation.' That will the warning
code between you and me, Okay? I do not want to call you son of belial, because
I really will upset you, but not warning you.

lol you are so predictably unstable. You are like the chaff which the wind driveth away . . . your roots have withered.

So because i show you proof that allah cursed the jews you are now scrambling to find where Jesus Christ "cursed" the jews too?

Perhaps you forgot to read the book of Numbers where God said - the children of Isreal can not be cursed because they are already blessed!

Keep digging holes to cover your gaping hole. It doesnt matter how many you dig, you will always have a hole staring you in the face.