omonuan: Chinenye, saying that Delta Igbo is "technically not Igbo" is the most absurd and despicable thing to say to an Anioma man. This assertion is what irk some some Anioma people into de-emphazing their Igboness. You are no more Igbo than me who is from Delta. Mind you, there is no accreditation board for who is "technically Igbo." You owe Delta Igbo an apology! Being technically Igbo is purely subjective.

Apologies to everyone offended by the statement. It's regrettable but lets all move on; it might not have been ill conceived.

I was offended too until I read Odumchi's clarification.

ChinenyeN: You really have no idea. Omonuan, as far as my actual opinion is concerned, you Anioma are more Igbo than I, but that is beyond the scope of this discussion. I'll admit that I do understand where you people coming from. You feel hurt by your [mis]interpretation of my statement. You perceive it as insensitive, and you believe I owe Anioma an apology. I on the other hand, see your reaction as overly sensitive and unnecessary. To me, you all seem to care more about taking offense, than anything else. It's as if we might as well just forget about having a straight discussion, since taking offense takes precedence over comprehension.

My point still stands. One Naira had no reason to be surprised at his family owning supposedly "restricted" lands since they come from Delta and that definitively makes them not Igbo, as opposed to someone who comes from Imo or Enugu who carry Igbo/Biafra war stigma. Simple, now carry on.

Anyway, I'm done here. Monyem adii iri la hnwe Anioma. Ma ra we akwuu.

Can you stop this idiotic attitude of labelling someone more Igbo than the other. As far as Ndigbo are concerned, no one is more Igbo than another. Boy, admit it.
A lot has happened to Ndigbo before the war.During the war and immediately after the war. But in this millenium, Ndigbo are one and moving ahead as one. If some people in the past has wrongly termed the south east as only Igbo, now, it is your job to correct them. The Igbo in Rivers and Delta are not more Igbo than any south-easterner and vice versa.
My warning to you is to desist from labelling a certain people of Igboland as Igbo and others as not Igbo. Second, do not claim that one certain Igbo group is more Igbo than another. It is just daft.

It's actually not my job to correct anything. Whatever identity issues that exist between west and southeast (if there are any) are not my problem. It's also not my job to write for your reading pleasure, and I'm not obligated to appeal to your beliefs and views. We've been through this before. I don't share some your views. So don't expect me to write as if I do.

From the face value, ChinenyeN’s “technical” comment could ruffle feathers but when viewed with unbiased mind, ChineneyeN could be sincerely correct. I guess ChinenyeN did not mean how Igbo people who termed themselves as Ndigbo but I believed ChiN referred to the figment of imagination of pseudo-Igbo people who no longer view themselves as Igbo as in the case of Omoku and land sale hoopla.

In fact, the maggot who started this thread expected this inconsequential discontent among us. As for the alleged Omoku issue of land sale, no reasonable Igbo person would bat an eye-lid about it. The only people I pity in all these anti-cultural behavior by Ikwerre and Omoku people are their Offspring who will bear the brunt of their forbearer’s stupidity. Nigeria is an experimental process that no one can predict when it will end but the path is obviously clear.

I will never use the word "Technically" again. It is an evil word.

afam4eva: I will never use the word "Technically" again. It is an evil word.

Bros, “technically” is not an evil word but we must be careful when using certain words in a non-technical debate. There is absolutely nothing technical about someone’s ancestry or the components (culture and tradition) that point to such claim.

If anyone thinks that the Igbo of Delta State are treated any better than the ones in the southeast then they're mistaken because they're treated worse. Northern Delta is very neglected. And once you have a name like Agwu you're treated like any other person with that kind of name anyway. The surname of the Obi of Agbor is Keagborekuzi.

Its quite unfortunate dat only in igboland all this stuff are happening. My yoruba friends frm kogi and kwara state neva deny their identity. Only my igbo brodas frm river state do. Who are they deceving? Nigerians or the white man who knw them more dan they even knw demselves. While serving in delta state in 2006 i had a friend frm river state with name uche amadi (i mention his name deliberatley in case he visits this site) who claims hes not igbo to the surprise of the yorubas in the camp. Ironically the yorubas avoided him and embrace the 'real' igbos as friends. When he sensed dat he had he had to come back to his 'enemies' ( real igbos) for security and friendship. If i speak igbo to dis clown he will respond in english. What an idiot. It is only a fool who will not call an emeka, a uche, an ifeanyi, a chukwudi, an obi, an ifeoma, a chinyere an igbo, whether u r frm river state or not. Pple r just confused of whom they r or deliberate denial. I cant imagine a german claiming not to be a german but frm berlin. Black pple and idiotic tendencies always on display. May God show mercy.

true2god: Its quite unfortunate dat only in igboland all this stuff are happening. My yoruba friends frm kogi and kwara state neva deny their identity. Only my igbo brodas frm river state do. Who are they deceving? Nigerians or the white man who knw them more dan they even knw demselves. While serving in delta state in 2006 i had a friend frm river state with name uche amadi (i mention his name deliberatley in case he visits this site) who claims hes not igbo to the surprise of the yorubas in the camp. Ironically the yorubas avoided him and embrace the 'real' igbos as friends. When he sensed dat he had he had to come back to his 'enemies' ( real igbos) for security and friendship. If i speak igbo to dis clown he will respond in english. What an idiot. It is only a fool who will not call an emeka, a uche, an ifeanyi, a chukwudi, an obi, an ifeoma, a chinyere an igbo, whether u r frm river state or not. Pple r just confused of whom they r or deliberate denial. I cant imagine a german claiming not to be a german but frm berlin. Black pple and idiotic tendencies always on display. May God show mercy.

People like that don"t know how stupid they look and sound when they deny their Igboness especially when their characteristics says otherwise.

I'VE STAETED THINKING OF DIFF. THING, NOT WHETHER A FACT IS TRUE OR NOT.
I LIVE IN A PLACE, POST COMMENT ABOUT IT AND SOME ONE, SOMEWHERE IS CONTESTING THE REALITY. USING HIS FATHER LAND AND SHOPS IN KUSANGBA AS REFERENCES
Why can't u dust ur shoes and come to OMOKU for confirmatiom. Abi ur lappy no de search map?

abdul izom: I'VE STAETED THINKING OF DIFF. THING, NOT WHETHER A FACT IS TRUE OR NOT.
I LIVE IN A PLACE, POST COMMENT ABOUT IT AND SOME ONE, SOMEWHERE IS CONTESTING THE REALITY. USING HIS FATHER LAND AND SHOPS IN KUSANGBA AS REFERENCES
Why can't u dust ur shoes and come to OMOKU for confirmatiom. Abi ur lappy no de search map?

Still waiting on una proof. Cry all you want and b1tch all you want, I don't really care just bring something to collaborate your story. We live in the technology era, it should be fairly easy

Anything to collaborate your story, an article, a witness statement, someone complaining about this problem online, a piece of paper you saw on the street that collaborated the story, a video tape you've got of an Igbo being sent of, anything. I should believe the statement simply because you are what? God? No offense but I've been on this website long enough and since I've been on this website I've seen people lie through their teeth about other communities including my own so I don't dare believe anything written on this website about any group in Delta or Rivers and to some extension Ontisha without some kind of collaboration to support the story especially if I googled the sh1t and I didnot even find not one article, not one, and knowing Igbo people especially SE Igbo, if such is true, at least one person would have written about it. I don't need to start calling my father to start asking him questions about his properties in Rivers for 1. it is not that important and for 2. it is not my job to do so, it is your job to bring something to support you, not mine. I am not the one that started the thread, you did. Lastly no offense to you Agbaworo but I've read some of your statements on other threads, I pretty much take everything you say with a grain of salt. I gotta check it out first before agreeing with it.

ezeagu: If anyone thinks that the Igbo of Delta State are treated any better than the ones in the southeast then they're mistaken because they're treated worse . Northern Delta is very neglected. And once you have a name like Agwu you're treated like any other person with that kind of name anyway. The surname of the Obi of Agbor is Keagborekuzi.

I wanted to leave it alone but since you spoke on it, all I need to say is Thank you. I don't understand why such belief that Deltan Igbo is treated better or differently from other Igbos exist or who even started that sterotype.

This chinenye is not even an igbo. I remember him saying that his mother is igbo while his father is not. So he can not be counted for an igboman. Again he loves igbo disintegration and disunity,i've seen it in most of his posts. He is as controversial as his family and community.

One_Naira: honestly when I read stuff on this website, I wonder what reality this people live in. This is why I barely listen to sh1t on this website anymore. If I didnot live , grew up and schooled in River state, I probably would believe some of the gibberish I read on this site about that state. hmm I wonder why my family have a home in PH and on top of that we have two stores in Rivers and we own five lands unused in River state if they don't sell lands to Igbo.

I swear you people get pathetic and more pathetic as day goes by on this site and I wonder why any Igbo on this website pay mind to your 1diotic bs.

pls read before u post can't here omoku or egbema ?

ibide: pls read before u post can't here omoku or egbema ?

Dude what are you talking about? What does this even mean "can't here omoku or egbema?"
Look dude, I don't care if you switch ids, You can use as many ids as you want, I don't really give a f2k. All I'm asking and all i've been asking is to bring a collaboration to the story. Shikena

abdul izom: I never meant to be tribalistic, but i find this amazing.
I came to Omoku in Onelga by the year 2008, it was a surprising thing to me, that Land is sold to Yoruba, Hausa and any other tribes but Igbos'.
I have over time tried to ask, the reason behind it. All i got as a response was that, they've been badly betrayed in past by Igbos. So no room for chances.
Onelga as a L.G.A, is sharing common boundary with Ohaji\Egbema of Imo State.
Judging by that proximity, is it better to conclude that, they know them better or is it just been acientic?
COS NO IGBO MAN, NO MATTER THE STATUS GETS LAND IN OGBA

You are a skunk smoking muthafucker..

Everyone should disregard this thread.. Omoku is the HQ of Ogba, Egbema, Ndoni LGA..

Egbema is a border town with Owerri...

The Ogba language shares similar phrases with the Igbo language like 'chukwu' ...

That my other hometown and own several prime lands and even swamp land there so what's this muthafucker saying!

NRI PRIEST: Wonders shall never end! Who are these Onelga ppl ? Firstly,I will not set foot there talk more of buying lands there....Kogi and Benue ppl are giving lands free to Igbos to invest and we are hear discussing a group with no presence! If they like let them sell lands to yorubas and boko harem.......I dont care! If they like let them claim Uhrobo I dont care but one thing I am sure of is that they will need our help 00pm oneday just like the Ijaws....These ppl are probably not up to 100,000 in population and we are here discusing a non factor..Op is probably from there and comehere to seek cheap populaity amongst the IGBOS!

Op,tell ur ppl I said they should shove all ther lands into their weak a..ss! Everybody wan use Igbos shine!

You couldn't set foot there even if you wanted... They are miles ahead of every other community in rivers state that hasn't been swallow up by port harcourt.. Almost 24 hours light thanks to the gas turbines..

And in fairness, the Igbos also discriminate against them so you could call it reprisal attack..

Okija_juju:

You couldn't set foot there even if you wanted... They are miles ahead of every other community in rivers state that hasn't been swallow up by port harcourt.. Almost 24 hours light thanks to the gas turbines..

And in fairness, the Igbos also discriminate against them so you could call it reprisal attack..

How so?

Okija_juju:


You are a skunk smoking muthafucker..

Everyone should disregard this thread.. Omoku is the HQ of Ogba, Egbema, Ndoni LGA..

Egbema is a border town with Owerri...

The Ogba language shares similar phrases with the Igbo language like 'chukwu' ...

That my other hometown and own several prime lands and even swamp land there so what's this muthafucker saying!

Isn't the Igba language like every other Igboid language in rivers or is it just few words that they share with Igbo. I know that's where Peter odili comes from.

first of all, i want to say that i was invited into this post by Afam4eva. secondly, i'm from Omoku town and what the poster posted is true. unfortunate but true. i donot know how the tradition came about but i have known from childhood that the Omoku people do not sell lands to the Igbos. in response to Onenaira, if you are from Delta State, we would not count you as an Igbo man. so Chinenye is Right in that aspect.
although, the Igbos are getting wiser now by marrying Omoku wives and buying properties in their wife's name which to me is good. now dont you guys think its quite a foolish, outdated tradition? you cannot sell them lands but you can allow them marry your daughters. . .
anyway, from what my Late Mom told me, we originated from Benin and there is this distrust we have for Igbos and we are scared of them overrunning us in our land. i hope i have not insulted anybody with this. onenaira, now you have your proof!

brokoto: first of all, i want to say that i was invited into this post by Afam4eva. secondly, i'm from Omoku town and what the poster posted is true. unfortunate but true. i donot know how the tradition came about but i have known from childhood that the Omoku people do not sell lands to the Igbos. in response to Onenaira, if you are from Delta State, we would not count you as an Igbo man. so Chinenye is Right in that aspect.
although, the Igbos are getting wiser now by marrying Omoku wives and buying properties in their wife's name which to me is good. now dont you guys think its quite a foolish, outdated tradition? you cannot sell them lands but you can allow them marry your daughters. . .
anyway, from what my Late Mom told me, we originated from Benin and there is this distrust we have for Igbos and we are scared of them overrunning us in our land. i hope i have not insulted anybody with this. onenaira, now you have your proof!

Thanks i really appreciate your help.

But it's rather strange that they would sell to outsiders(Yorubas, hausa etc) but not to Igbos. You're also right about that part where you would allow someone to marry your daughter but not buy land from you.

So, Omoku people originated from Benin too? Na waoo. Old days benin must have been really crowded.

in response to NRIPRIEST, Omoku is the fastest growing town in Rivers State. it is second in development only to Port-harcourt. when i'm at home i prefer going to Omoku rather than staying in PH. you know why? because there we have 24hrs power supply free of charge. its no exaggeration. i stand corrected but i think that no other town or city can boast of that in Nigeria. so if you dont know who we are, i guess its your loss. you donot cover ignorance with insults, thank you.

afam4eva:
Thanks i really appreciate your help.

But it's rather strange that they would sell to outsiders(Yorubas, hausa etc) but not to Igbos. You're also right about that part where you would allow someone to marry your daughter but not buy land from you.

So, Omoku people originated from Benin too? Na waoo. Old days benin must have been really crowded.

the Old Benin was an empire na. at least thats what i was told. . .

afam4eva:
How so?

I just called home now and enquirer about this topic and they gave mixed replies..

The Igbos (especially Anambra) have a long standing disregard for Ndi Rivers especially the Ikwerres and Ogbas which are the 2 somewhat Igbo related tribes in rivers state.. However they said its a lie, that it's rather Ahoada that does the non sale of land to Igbos.. A lot of Owerri people own lands in Omoku and my Father, Brother and I own lands in Omoku main town.. I can authoritatively tell you this as that village is my second hometown.. Infact half the land the the federal technical college sits on is family land and my family house bothers he school...

I was just informed now that two of my uncles marriages to Anambra state women failed because the families swore that over their dead body will they marry Ndi Mba mmiri.. However the sale of land to the Hausas is a no no as the civil war really affected the town..

The language ( Ogba) is only similar to igbo language with certain phrases like chukwu.. Eg. Chukwudi in Igbo is Chukwuladi in Ogba... bia in Igbo is also bia in Ogba. Things like that, but I can bet you that the Ogba language is not gonna be easily understood by an Igbo man as only about 5% of it is Igbo..

The OP is very wrong and whoever told him what he wrote is grossly misinformed..

Okija_juju:

I just called home now and enquirer about this topic and they gave mixed replies..

The Igbos (especially Anambra) have a long standing disregard for Ndi Rivers especially the Ikwerres and Ogbas which are the 2 somewhat Igbo related tribes in rivers state.. However they said its a lie, that it's rather Ahoada that does the non sale of land to Igbos.. A lot of Owerri people own lands in Omoku and my Father, Brother and I own lands in Omoku main town.. I can authoritatively tell you this as that village is my second hometown.. Infact half the land the the federal technical college sits on is family land and my family house bothers he school...

I was just informed now that two of my uncles marriages to Anambra state women failed because the families swore that over their dead body will they marry Ndi Mba mmiri.. However the sale of land to the Hausas is a no no as the civil war really affected the town..

The language ( Ogba) is only similar to igbo language with certain phrases like chukwu.. Eg. Chukwudi in Igbo is Chukwuladi in Ogba... bia in Igbo is also bia in Ogba. Things like that, but I can bet you that the Ogba language is not gonna be easily understood by an Igbo man as only about 5% of it is Igbo..

The OP is very wrong and whoever told him what he wrote is grossly misinformed..

no no you are wrong. take a look at my first post, we DONOT sell lands to the Igbos. if both your parents are Igbo then i its not possible for you guys to have land in Omoku.

brokoto: no no you are wrong. take a look at my first post, we DONOT sell lands to the Igbos. if both your parents are Igbo then i its not possible for you guys to have land in Omoku.

Like I said, we have lands on ikiri road and ukwu rubber on the outskirts Or more like the entrance of Omoku.. Also another one on the road that goes from Omoku to Elele..

brokoto: first of all, i want to say that i was invited into this post by Afam4eva. secondly, i'm from Omoku town and what the poster posted is true. unfortunate but true. i donot know how the tradition came about but i have known from childhood that the Omoku people do not sell lands to the Igbos. in response to Onenaira, if you are from Delta State, we would not count you as an Igbo man. so Chinenye is Right in that aspect.
although, the Igbos are getting wiser now by marrying Omoku wives and buying properties in their wife's name which to me is good. now dont you guys think its quite a foolish, outdated tradition? you cannot sell them lands but you can allow them marry your daughters. . .
anyway, from what my Late Mom told me, we originated from Benin and there is this distrust we have for Igbos and we are scared of them overrunning us in our land. i hope i have not insulted anybody with this. onenaira, now you have your proof!

Anybody who knows Rivers State well knows you said the frankest of all truths so far.

brokoto: no no you are wrong. take a look at my first post, we DONOT sell lands to the Igbos. if both your parents are Igbo then i its not possible for you guys to have land in Omoku.

Even own a pond snide Ogbo orun.. That area you use Agip pontoon to access

Okija_juju:

Like I said, we have lands on ikiri road and ukwu rubber on the outskirts Or more like the entrance of Omoku.. Also another one on the road that goes from Omoku to Elele..

Let us agree that there's exception to every rule. You happen to be one of the few exceptions but the norm is Igbos can't buy land.

As for the Benin origin, it is merely an emphasis on one aspect of the origin putting off the Igbo(Aboh and Aro) and Ijaw stories.

Okija_juju:

I just called home now and enquirer about this topic and they gave mixed replies..

The Igbos (especially Anambra) have a long standing disregard for Ndi Rivers especially the Ikwerres and Ogbas which are the 2 somewhat Igbo related tribes in rivers state.. However they said its a lie, that it's rather Ahoada that does the non sale of land to Igbos.. A lot of Owerri people own lands in Omoku and my Father, Brother and I own lands in Omoku main town.. I can authoritatively tell you this as that village is my second hometown.. Infact half the land the the federal technical college sits on is family land and my family house bothers he school...

I was just informed now that two of my uncles marriages to Anambra state women failed because the families swore that over their dead body will they marry Ndi Mba mmiri.. However the sale of land to the Hausas is a no no as the civil war really affected the town..

The language ( Ogba) is only similar to igbo language with certain phrases like chukwu.. Eg. Chukwudi in Igbo is Chukwuladi in Ogba... bia in Igbo is also bia in Ogba. Things like that, but I can bet you that the Ogba language is not gonna be easily understood by an Igbo man as only about 5% of it is Igbo..

The OP is very wrong and whoever told him what he wrote is grossly misinformed..

Now,this is what irks me about these denial stories, you say Ogba language is only similar to igbo language in certain phrases.
The problem with this assertion is that it assumes the existence of a universal igbo language,which the whole south east igbo tribes speak,this cannot be farther from the truth. The truth is that the central igbo we use today is but an artificial construct made by picking out words from the various igbo dialects.

Of course,omoku will never share many similar words with central igbo,rather they are always going to share many similar words with their next igbo neigbours,this is what is applicable in most parts of igboland,nsukka dialect is a very good example,an nsukka man can always tell u how different his dialect is from the central igbo,an anambra guy like me can hardly understand his dialect,but his next igbo neighbours in udi lga of enugu state,will always understand him.

By the way,i think nri priest is right,i don't really know why someone would like to buy land there, we don't really need these mushroom villages parading as tribes,they don't have what we need, what we lack as a nation is sea access, ogbaland is a landlocked bush,they have got nothing special to add to the great igbo nation,they need us more than we need them.