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Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by thehomer: 6:58pm On Jul 06, 2012
davidylan:

Oh sorry... let me post bullet points then...

1. God created the earth
2. God created man in His own image
3. By faith, i can feel and acknowledge the presence of the Most High.

If you want further explanations of the above reasons why i believe the bible to be true... just ask... i have more links for you.

Two can play the dishonest game of musical chairs no?

And here we have it. He has thrown in his faith. grin grin

Is there any other line of evidence that you have for your first and second claims other than the third one? I mean, other than by faith, how do you know your God and not Brahman created the earth and how do you know that it wasn't Brahma that created humans?
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by Nobody: 6:59pm On Jul 06, 2012
Kay 17:

If Science uses Faith, why does it have space for Research? Why does it place a value on discovery?

I did not say all science exists on blind faith... the pseudoscience that purports to explain the origin of the earth however depends on blind faith. That is the clear difference.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by Nobody: 6:59pm On Jul 06, 2012
thehomer:

And here we have it. He has thrown in his faith. grin grin

Is there any other line of evidence that you have for your first and second claims other than the third one? I mean, other than by faith, how do you know your God and not Brahman created the earth and how do you know that it wasn't Brahma that created humans?

Please see explanations here - http://www.bibleexplained.com/
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by thehomer: 7:00pm On Jul 06, 2012
davidylan:

just the same way you hopeless empty heads hide behind theories you dont understand. When pressed to provide evidence you simply show up with baseless bullet points saying nothing and links you cannot defend.

Dont worry, its not a case of cold feet. If you provide only links and bullet points, dont expect me to go into a lengthy explanation of my own viewpoint.

You were wailing about three or four lines. I gave you three lines and you continue wailing?
Just go and take your medication.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by Nobody: 7:01pm On Jul 06, 2012
thehomer:

You were wailing about three or four lines. I gave you three lines and you continue wailing?
Just go and take your medication.

Are you tired of reading already? shocked grin
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by thehomer: 7:02pm On Jul 06, 2012
davidylan:

Read my first link. You should see evidence for my answer there.

Were you the one who didn't remember those statements? (Maybe for some health reasons like Alzheimer's disease.)
Your answer here will serve as a reading for just how serious and intellectually you are and wish to be for this discussion.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by Nobody: 7:04pm On Jul 06, 2012
thehomer:

Were you the one who didn't remember those statements? (Maybe for some health reasons like Alzheimer's disease.)
Your answer here will serve as a reading for just how serious and intellectually you are and wish to be for this discussion.

Have you read the links? Try again.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by thehomer: 7:05pm On Jul 06, 2012
davidylan:

Are you tired of reading already? shocked grin

I'm yet to post a single link and you're already spamming the page. Why? Are you afraid of something? wink
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by thehomer: 7:07pm On Jul 06, 2012
davidylan:

Have you read the links? Try again.

D'aww how cute. grin
I've actually heard pretty much all the excuses you creationists give I'm actually wondering if you've read those links.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by thehomer: 7:09pm On Jul 06, 2012
davidylan:

I did not say all science exists on blind faith... the pseudoscience that purports to explain the origin of the earth however depends on blind faith. That is the clear difference.

No there is no clear difference because it is the same sort of science that explains nuclear fusion that explains the Big bang and it is the same sort of science that explains drug resistance that explains evolution.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by Kay17: 7:33pm On Jul 06, 2012
Here is your Quote, you clearly referred Science not pseudoscience

davidylan:

DAft. At no point did i think biblical ideas are on par with scientific ideas EXCEPT the fact that both are founded on pure faith.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by Kay17: 7:34pm On Jul 06, 2012
davidylan:

I did not say all science exists on blind faith... the pseudoscience that purports to explain the origin of the earth however depends on blind faith. That is the clear difference.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by PhysicsQED(m): 8:21pm On Jul 06, 2012
lol, how did this thread get to seven pages? Just one mention of God and you get 7 pages of God vs. astronomy in a thread that's apparently about a different topic.

Anyway, I'm not an astronomy guy, but the bible and astronomy don't necessarily contradict each other as far as I can tell.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 9:11pm On Jul 06, 2012
davidylan:

We have both agreed the bible is a myth times without number. you simply use it as a smokescreen when you cant cogently explain your own alternative... that the scientific theories are themselves empty myths that require as much blind faith to believe as the mythological bible.

Hello Davidylan (any relation to Bob Dylan )
The availability (or non-availability) of alternative explanations hardly validates or serve as proof for clearly controversial (slippery eel) claims the Bible presents in "Blind Faith" (believing in something you know ain't true).
I agree (however) it is also a bit of indignant ignorance to discount the Bible in all its entirety as a result of its historically evidential issues in moral, cultural and academic (sciency parts that is) contradictions.
It is (arguably) impossible to leverage Faith to discuss Reason not because Faith is beyond Reason (as believed by deep Christians) but because they are as far apart as Mormon is from a Wahhabi Zealot

The singular similarity you described as "Blind Faith" is actually a misnomer - here is the difference.. While Religion Begins and Ends with Blind Faith, Science Continues with Exploration and Discovery. This is not Faith, it is simply belief founded on growing scientific evidence (not complete as Higgs has shown us). on the flip-side,Faith is not a divine virtue hallowed from God's Grace or some innate element of Creation - it is as much Will-power and some certain capacity to suspend reality outside Reason.

Faith is not without purpose (albeit non-divine) it gives Hope and Emotional Strength which is needed in this frail creation called man.

So can we keep our eyes on the ball (Higgs Bosons) - no amount of prattle will resolve an issue centuries old
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by buzugee(m): 9:41pm On Jul 06, 2012
2 THESSALONIANS 2 VS 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 9:43pm On Jul 06, 2012
buzugee: 2 THESSALONIANS 2 VS 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Stop with the scare tactics already grin
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by truthislight: 12:45am On Jul 07, 2012
Dehomer, dehomer, dehomer,
we are following this thread and we expected more from u the super man.

If u cant deliver, then we will have to accept the option that u are the ring leader for dishonesty.

Kay17 is on this same thread posting his human views which we can relet with that it is not absolute.

Even lagerwhenindoubt.

But u, u, u. The ring leader instead of proving anything u are going in circle like a drawning man looking for what to hold.

If ur desperation was not blinding u, u will have seen that Davidylan was dishing out in the same coin to u.
Meaning it is a no win scenario since the issue has no prove.
But u were blind to this fact on the thread why

Who said that other atheist dont have what to say?

But they saw the argument and restrain themself but u could'nt see it.
Watch it.

David said he has been led on this for too long, what do you think he was saying?

Cool down bro. We are discussing, honesty is apreciated by all, even u, even atheist, even the Gods.

The reasoning is both the same from both of u, = faith...

Hope u can see this and have ur peace that comes from a honest mind.

If u dont, then grow old and die with out peace that comes with a honest mind.
Peace
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by buzugee(m): 7:04am On Jul 07, 2012
lagerwhenindoubt:
Stop with the scare tactics already grin
Is it working ? grin grin
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by thehomer: 7:25am On Jul 07, 2012
truthislight: Dehomer, dehomer, dehomer,
we are following this thread and we expected more from u the super man.

If u cant deliver, then we will have to accept the option that u are the ring leader for dishonesty.

Kay17 is on this same thread posting his human views which we can relet with that it is not absolute.

Even lagerwhenindoubt.

But u, u, u. The ring leader instead of proving anything u are going in circle like a drawning man looking for what to hold.

If ur desperation was not blinding u, u will have seen that Davidylan was dishing out in the same coin to u.
Meaning it is a no win scenario since the issue has no prove.
But u were blind to this fact on the thread why

Who said that other atheist dont have what to say?

But they saw the argument and restrain themself but u could'nt see it.
Watch it.

David said he has been led on this for too long, what do you think he was saying?

Cool down bro. We are discussing, honesty is apreciated by all, even u, even atheist, even the Gods.

The reasoning is both the same from both of u, = faith...

Hope u can see this and have ur peace that comes from a honest mind.

If u dont, then grow old and die with out peace that comes with a honest mind.
Peace

What on earth is the point of this post?
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by buzugee(m): 7:35am On Jul 07, 2012
thehomer:

What on earth is the point of this post?
i believe he was trying to tell you that you are not a peaceful person and that you have a dishonest mind grin grin grin grin grin grin grin ( hey thats what i got from his statement. dont shoot the messenger now. i aint but a conduit )

* i am being an instigator * i need to see a good old fashioned verbal warfare. i am bored wink
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by PastorKun(m): 7:39am On Jul 07, 2012
@Deepsight
Your thread as done very well at six pages after a couple of days for a supposedly boring boring subject.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by thehomer: 7:44am On Jul 07, 2012
buzugee: i believe he was trying to tell you that you are not a peaceful person and that you have a dishonest mind grin grin grin grin grin grin grin ( hey thats what i got from his statement. dont shoot the messenger now. i aint but a conduit )

* i am being an instigator * i need to see a good old fashioned verbal warfare. i am bored wink

Thanks for the interpretation. Don't worry, to show you how peaceful I am, I won't shoot you - yet.

He would have done a better job by actually showing the examples of this dishonesty. My posts are still up there.
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by buzugee(m): 7:46am On Jul 07, 2012
thehomer:

Thanks for the interpretation. Don't worry, to show you how peaceful I am, I won't shoot you - yet.

He would have done a better job by actually showing the examples of this dishonesty. My posts are still up there.
preciate the generosity and compassion Boss grin grin
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by Nobody: 8:27am On Jul 07, 2012
Pastor Kun: @Deepsight
Your thread as done very well at six pages after a couple of days for a supposedly boring boring subject.
Thanks to Daivdlyan...
Re: Boring Boring Higgs Boson by thehomer: 8:34am On Jul 07, 2012
buzugee: preciate the generosity and compassion Boss grin grin

grin

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