Mr_Anony:

My friend, Yes I haven't bothered to look for "discrepancies" because they don't affect my faith. This doesn't mean I should Immediately accept something that is contested as fact. If you want to disprove the bible, come up wit absolute proof. A bunch of maybes and maybe nots is simply not good enough.

MacDaddy01: Genesis 2;2

By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.





https://www.nairaland.com/988393/satan-never-rests#11409473a
SEE how a muslim is blaspheming agst ALLAH that satan is more powerful that ALLAH,this is a wakeup call for other muslims pronounce fatwa on him & stone him to death 4 him to find his eternal abode in Hell with al shatan. allah alkubar!










https://www.nairaland.com/988393/satan-never-rests#11409411

davidylan: macdaddy macdaddy... dishonesty is thy name.

MacDaddy01:

ijawkid: @macdaddy....
So na u be logic boy....

What happend to ur other account??

Banned as usual abi??

Still terrorizing christians as usual but under a different veneer....

Now I know what to do with u

Ihedinobi: I don't plan to start a firestorm again o, Logicboy, but I don't know of any scriptures that say there'll be more people in hell than in heaven.
And your polychronic view of God doesn't make much sense. And your understanding of time is quite incoherent to me. If you take me up on these, I'll try to answer but I'll probably be slow because I'm otherwise engaged.

MacDaddy01:



lol.....remember the place where Jesus said that the only way to the father is through him? How man people in the world believe in Jesus today? 66% of the world dont believe in Jesus.

Just because you dont understand something, it does mean that it incoherent. An omnipotent being can not exist within one timeline if he knows the future and is outside of time.

Ihedinobi:

First bolded. "does not" does not mean "will not". And how do you know this for sure?

Second bolded. This is entirely your opinion. The definition of "omnipotent" is "all-powerful". And even were we to run with your thought, "can do all things" is not the same as "does all things" or "must do all things". Besides, the bone of contention here is "time". You say that an omnipotent being must necessarily exist outside of time. That makes no sense to me. Because the concept of omnipotence has nothing whatever to do with time.

Finally, how does knowing the future necessitate the transcendence of time by the being possessing such knowledge?

MacDaddy01:


Christianity has never been more than 1/3rd of the total world population since we started counting. Seeing as it is dying in Europe and the other Western countries, it wont change much.

As for omnipotence, it means all-powerful. Therefore, he can do anything. Lets follow simple logic;

God is omnipotent
therefore, he can do anything
to be able to do everything, you need abilities to do those things

If god can do anything
he can see the future
to see the future means that god has the ability to see the timeline of events leading to more events

If god can do anything
he can be everywhere at the same time
to be everywhere at the same time, god has the ability transcend time and space

If god can see the future and be everywhere at the same time, what stops him from being in the future at the same time as the present?
To be in the in the future and present at the same time, god has to have the ability to exist beyond one timeline.

oops, did I destroy you with logic?

MacDaddy01:


Christianity has never been more than 1/3rd of the total world population since we started counting. Seeing as it is dying in Europe and the other Western countries, it wont change much.


As for omnipotence, it means all-powerful. Therefore, he can do anything. Lets follow simple logic;


God is omnipotent
therefore, he can do anything
to be able to do everything, you need abilities to do those things


If god can do anything
he can see the future
to see the future means that god has the ability to see the timeline of events leading to more events


If god can do anything
he can be everywhere at the same time
to be everywhere at the same time, god has the ability transcend time and space


If god can see the future and be everywhere at the same time, what stops him from being in the future at the same time as the present?
To be in the in the future and present at the same time, god has to have the ability to exist beyond one timeline.



oops, did I destroy you with logic?

Mr_Anony:
When did you start counting?



Ok


God can also choose not to do some things


yes he has such an ability


yes too


Yes he has such an ability to exist beyond one timeline.
But then if God can do all things, He must also have the ability to choose to work within one timeline if he wishes.

you and logic are polar opposites

Ihedinobi:

Bro, if we weren't from the same family, I'd have been surprised how easily you speak my mind

ghostofsparta:

Define faith ?

Just want to know if your def would sync with my understanding of the 'religious term' ?

Mr_Anony:
When did you start counting?



Ok


God can also choose not to do some things


yes he has such an ability


yes too


Yes he has such an ability to exist beyond one timeline.
But then if God can do all things, He must also have the ability to choose to work within one timeline if he wishes.

you and logic are polar opposites

MacDaddy01:


You didnt refute anything I said. Smh.

Mr_Anony:
You didn't say anything worth refuting

MacDaddy01:


In summary, I have proven that if God exists and is omnipotent, he exists in different timelines. The notion of God stopping or starting or resting is silly.

Mr_Anony:

Lol, Since God is omnipotent, the notion of God not being able to stop or rest from an action is silly.
You are truly the polar opposite of logic indeed

MacDaddy01:


That statement is logical. Why are you so ignorant. If something is beyond time, does it stop or start at particular time? If something can exist in different timelines, the past present and the future, can it be said to stop or start?

Use your brain. Everyone can see that you're being silly

Mr_Anony:
If something is omnipotent, does it not have the ability to rest from an action?

MacDaddy01:

Excellent question. This is what I wanted you to see. How your God becomes a paradoxical impossibility.


What is rest? It is defined as stopping for a period of time, taking a break from something.

How can God rest if he is the beginning and the end? How can God rest for a period of time when he is beyond time? If God exists in the present and future, he is niether starting or stopping.



However, to be omnipotent, he should also have the ability to do anything, including the ability to rest. Which contradicts the argument above which shows that God can not rest due to never starting or stopping since he is beyond time.



An unsolvable paradox. Tow possible contradictions. An impossiblity. Shows that God does not exist.


This mirrors the same argument- "can God create a rock that he can not move? If he can create it, he is not omnipotent because he is not able to move the rock- he cant do everything. If he cant create the rock he is not omnipotent because, he should be able to create everything. Omnipotence is impossible and God doesnt exist.

Mr_Anony:
Oh my God, you really are terrible at logic aren't you?

Ihedinobi: Geez! Logicboy, you done gone and made a royal mess of logic. There are so many incredible absurdities in your submissions that it's work just to show them!

MacDaddy01:


Huh? Dont be a liar and show the evidence.


Where are the absurdities

Ihedinobi:

I think I might need a good night's sleep first. I'll have to harvest it from a lot of your comments all the way back to the beginning.

MacDaddy01:


No, just give me from the last comment that had my logical analysis

Mr_Anony:
Macdaddy01, arguing with you is very tiring. Arguments work well when the two parties arguing are using some sort of logic. You don't.
You may think I am just making this accusation because perhaps in your mind your reasoning is "so superior" but then think back on all the people that have said this same thing to you albeit in different words on this forum.

In the words of the Rabbi from the movie Lucky Number Slevin

My father used to say: "The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle."

(........I do hope you understand the proverb above as I really don't wanna have to dumb it down for you)

MacDaddy01:


No, just give me from the last comment that had my logical analysis

MacDaddy01:

Excellent question. This is what I wanted you to see. How your God becomes a paradoxical impossibility.


What is rest? It is defined as stopping for a period of time, taking a break from something.

How can God rest if he is the beginning and the end? How can God rest for a period of time when he is beyond time? If God exists in the present and future, he is niether starting or stopping.



However, to be omnipotent, he should also have the ability to do anything, including the ability to rest. Which contradicts the argument above which shows that God can not rest due to never starting or stopping since he is beyond time.



An unsolvable paradox. Tow possible contradictions. An impossiblity. Shows that God does not exist.


This mirrors the same argument- "can God create a rock that he can not move? If he can create it, he is not omnipotent because he is not able to move the rock- he cant do everything. If he cant create the rock he is not omnipotent because, he should be able to create everything. Omnipotence is impossible and God doesnt exist.