Kobojunkie:
So, your creator never explained anywhere to know that he has no beginning and no end to Him suggesting He was not Himself created?

Well,we all don't believe in the same God hence the reason why I had to inquire regarding yours. I can only tell you about mine while you decide who yours is.

TruthHurts100:
If you have information about who created God, pls share with me.

TruthHurts100:


So much hatred in your heart. Just listen to yourself. I pray you receive love, knowledge and peace.

Shalom

Janosky:

Mumu pastorpreneur in sifia pains typing GIBBERISH.

Azen Dan!

Ken4Christ:


No, it's you that will be in unbearable pains and torments in hell for spreading lies.

Ken4Christ:


No hatred at all but I have to expose the evil sect to save a few people from hell.

Pastorpreneur, Psalm 9:17 ( popular verse your mentors quote) says you are throwing tantrums and typing GIBBERISH.
Psalm 9:17
New Living Translation
The wicked will go down to the grave. This is the fate of all the nations who ignore God.

English Standard Version
The wicked shall return to Sheol, all the nations that forget God.

Berean Standard Bible
The wicked will return to Sheol—all the nations who forget God.

King James Bible
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God

Sheol= Hell= the grave= Genesis 3:19 & Psalm 9:17

Janosky:



Pastorpreneur, Psalm 9:17 ( popular verse your mentors quote) says you are throwing tantrums and typing GIBBERISH.
Psalm 9:17
New Living Translation
The wicked will go down to the grave. This is the fate of all the nations who ignore God.

English Standard Version
The wicked shall return to Sheol, all the nations that forget God.

Berean Standard Bible
The wicked will return to Sheol—all the nations who forget God.

King James Bible
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God

Sheol= Hell= the grave= Genesis 3:19 & Psalm 9:17

Ken4Christ:

Does this verse below also refer to grave?
Why are you people so grossly dishonest? Matthew 25:41.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, YE CURSED, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE , prepared for the devil and his angels:

Ken4Christ:


Does this verse below also refer to grave?

Why are you people so grossly dishonest?

Matthew 25:41.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, YE CURSED, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE , prepared for the devil and his angels:

◄ Jude 1:7 ►

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.


2 Peter 2:6
And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an example unto those that after should live ungodly;

Oga Pastorpreneur @ 2 Peter 2:6 & Jude 1:7, your own Bible says it's the example that must befall evildoers.

Oga Pastorpreneur @ 2 Peter 2:6 & Jude 1:7, did your "Everlasting fire" turn Sodom and Gomorrah to a place of everlasting torture ?

Were the evildoers of Sodom & Gomorrah turned to ashes by your "everlasting fire"?


This pastorpreneur Ken4, is grossly dishonest, but Jesus Christ exposed him @ Luke 17:29.


Luke 17:29
New International Version
29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them

Janosky:

2 Peter 2:6 & Jude 1:7 let the holy scriptures speak for itself.

◄ Jude 1:7 ►

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.


2 Peter 2:6
And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an example unto those that after should live ungodly;

Oga Pastorpreneur @ 2 Peter 2:6 & Jude 1:7, your own Bible says it's the example that must befall evildoers.

Oga Pastorpreneur @ 2 Peter 2:6 & Jude 1:7, did your "Everlasting fire" turn Sodom and Gomorrah to a place of everlasting torture ?

Were the evildoers of Sodom & Gomorrah turned to ashes by your "everlasting fire"?


This pastorpreneur Ken4, is grossly dishonest, but Jesus Christ exposed him @ Luke 17:29.


Luke 17:29
New International Version
29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them

MaxInDHouse:


Everlasting life meaning complete destruction so unlike the first death where casualties can be resurrected the second death (Lake of Fire) connotes death where casualties have no hope. So when God destroy Satan and his demons they're no worshipers of God neither have they any hope of a come back to life, that is what will happen to unrepentant evildoers.
This stupidity need to stop. Preach about the Goodness that's expected of your God instead of concentrating on what will happen to evildoers. Nobody is interested in whatever will be the condition of those evildoers rather we are interested in knowing what God has in stock for His loyal ones!

Ken4Christ:

Revelation 19:20
And the BEAST was taken, and with him the FALSE PROPHET that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. THESE BOTH WERE CAST ALIVE INTO A LAKE OF FIRE burning with brimstone. Why didn't the fire consume the beast and the false Prophet. They are acknowledged to still be there after the 1,000 years reign of Christ. The devil had to join them. Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Why didn't the fire consume the beast and the false Prophet? Another lie exposed.
There is no hiding place for your lies.

Ken4Christ:


Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING THE VENGEANCE OF ETERNAL FIRE.

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Dishonest pastorpreneur & him 3 deities worshippers TWISTING of holy scriptures.

Let's expose your pastorpreneur buffoonery further in the 2nd & 3rd sentences of Jude1:7.

1st point: Is Sodom and Gomorrah existing today?
No,not all !
"Gave themselves over to fornication", CORRECT.
2 Peter 2:6 & Luke17:29, Jesus and Peter said so.

2nd Point: Your 3 deities worshippers rendered their translation of Jude1:7 in futuristic terms- this is dishonest, DUBIOUS & TWISTING of holy scriptures.

3rd point: Jude 1:7 occurred in the old testament. Jude wrote chapter 1 verse 7 in past tense.

Contemporary English Version & New International Version rendition of Jude 1:7 (screenshot) agreed with Jesus Christ @ Luke 17:29

Oga Pastorpreneur, your deception exposed.

Ken4Christ:

The physical fire consumed their bodies but their souls are in hell.

The two fires are not the same.

Deceptive doctrine of men passed off as scriptures.
The confused pastorpreneur says the fires of hellfire is different from the fires of everlasting fire.
Yet,he is desperate to convince this forum that everlasting fire @ Matthew 25:41 & Jude 1:7 is the same place of torture chamber

Ken4Christ:

Notice the phrase, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. It didn't say, suffered as in past tense. It says suffering as in present continuous term.

Ken4Christ:


You are fighting against the truth at all cost. It shall never be well with Rutherford and Russell.

AntiChristian:


Begotten means to bring about by reproduction! Was Jesus born by God sexually or assexually?

Janosky:

That is the TWISTING of the holy scriptures your Pastorpreneurs & Trinitarian translators DUBIOUSLY inserted into the holy scriptures.
Read the same Jude 1:7 in New International Version & New Living Translation.




Your pastorpreneur TWISTING, LYING and buffoonery have been thoroughly examined and exposed.

Demi gods of men,You can continue to insult the dead wey done born many generations of your great great great grandparents.
It speaks volumes about your upbringing.
Nonsense!!!
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Ken4Christ:


No hatred at all but I have to expose the evil sect to save a few people from hell.

Ken4Christ:


Every version reads eternal fire. The fire that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah is not eternal. It has ceased to burn. But the fire Jude is talking about is that of hell. That fire is not quenched.

Mark 9:43.
And our Lord Jesus confirmed it when he said;
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go INTO HELL, INTO THE FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED.

Here our Lord Jesus did not just mention hell but he gave a further description of what happens there.

He said, the fire in hell is never quenched.

But Russell is opposing the truth of Christ and has brainwashed you never to accept the truth.

Who should we listen to? Jesus or Russell?

If you choose to follow Russell's teachings which clearly contradicts that of Jesus, you will have yourself to blame on judgment day.

Russell will not be there to defend his demonic teachings.

Ken4Christ:


Every version reads eternal fire. The fire that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah is not eternal. It has ceased to burn. But the fire Jude is talking about is that of hell. That fire is not quenched.

Mark 9:43.
And our Lord Jesus confirmed it when he said;
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go INTO HELL, INTO THE FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED.

Here our Lord Jesus did not just mention hell but he gave a further description of what happens there.

He said, the fire in hell is never quenched.

But Russell is opposing the truth of Christ and has brainwashed you never to accept the truth.

Who should we listen to? Jesus or Russell?

If you choose to follow Russell's teachings which clearly contradicts that of Jesus, you will have yourself to blame on judgment day.

Russell will not be there to defend his demonic teachings.

Ken4Christ:


Does this verse below also refer to grave?

Why are you people so grossly dishonest?

Matthew 25:41.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, YE CURSED, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE , prepared for the devil and his angels:

TruthHurts100:
When you hear the truth, may the devil not close your ears to it.

Many people today believe that God and Jesus are the same. Well, that's not true.

God does not have a beginning, Jesus has. Col 15:1 Refers to Jesus as the first born of all creation. He was created directly by God and that is why he's referred to as the only begotten son of God.

Jesus on numerous occasions calls God his father and that he's here to do the will of the one who sent him. He asked God for permission in prayers to do certain things.
When he was about to die, he called to his fathers again.

So, does it make sense to say Jesus sent himself, took permission from himself, pray to himself and most of all sacrifice himself to himself for our sakes?

Yes! Before you tell me Jesus said he and his father are one as written at John 10:30.
Note the meaning of what he meant as he used the same term when praying for his Apostles at John 17:11

11And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

Was Jesus talking about equality here? He said they should be one just like he and the father are one.


I rest my case.

If you still want to believe in the trinity lies that was never mentioned in the Bible. You are on your own.

God will not share his glory with anyone, not even Jesus that he created.

I know another scripture you might want to quote.... Bring it on.

TruthHurts100:


The amazing thing here is that you seriously think you know what you're talking about.

Fire in the Greek scriptures is mostly figurative. And John in revelation 20:14 told you the meaning of the fire fire but you still will not see it. Because the god of this system has blinded your mind eyes.

God is a God of justice, yet he didn't born Adam and Eve in fire, he did born Cain, the first murder in fire. Its those that inherit sin, that lived in sin for less than 200 years, he will born them in fire forever, sit on his throne and enjoy the suya smell abi?

Satan is wicked, see how he has turned you to a dummy.

Oga, emancipate yourself from the bondage of Satan. The time left is very short.

For you to understand the Bible easily, stop reading all these thou shalt shalant old forgotten translation. The translation in modern English language is different from blalabu, blublu bá, ulabaaaa

TruthHurts100:


Our Lord, who is your lord?

TruthHurts100:


Oga rest. You don't even know what you're talking about. I will give you a scripture to explain now and you will either run away or expose your lack of knowledge.

Rev 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Oya run and never come back.

Ken4Christ:


There is but one Lord who is Jesus whom you don't believe in.

You deny his bodily resurrection asserting he rose without his body.

You also deny that he is not returning back visibly when the scripture teaches otherwise.

You are an agent of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

Get ready to join your founders in hell.

So many who have followed your deceitful doctrines are already in hell regretting.

Yours section in hell will be worse because you have the opportunity to know the truth through this forum but you still deny it.

Enjoy your ride to hell.

TruthHurts100:



Wow! Evil sect. How are they evil? If you can't point to a single sensible reason why you call them evil. Keep quiet.

MaxInDHouse:
Mr Hell!

Ken4Christ:


They are evil because they oppose the truth of God's word with numerous lies some of which I have exposed.

I will expose more over time.

Ken4Christ:


Second death does not mean cessation of existence.

Even death itself never meant cessation of existence.

If it did, The Bible will not say that God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

These partriachs are physically dead but they still live on.

So, reprogramme your brain that death does not mean cessation of existence.

The one who dies only ceases to function on earth but he lives on in the realm of the spirit.

This is why Apostle Paul said he has a desire to leave this earth and be with the Lord.

He knew that if he dies, his spirit will be with the Lord with his full senses.

The story of the rich man and Lazarus teaches that death is a transition to hell or heaven. But you still do not believe the story.

The spirit of unbelief has possesed you because you opened your mind to receive the demonic teachings of Jehovah's Witness.

Ken4Christ:


It's the scripture and not me. I don't want you to go there because I love you. Not just you but everyone reading this article.

The place is very hot and unbearable.

Ken4Christ:


There is but one Lord who is Jesus whom you don't believe in.

You deny his bodily resurrection asserting he rose without his body.

You also deny that he is not returning back visibly when the scripture teaches otherwise.

You are an agent of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

Get ready to join your founders in hell.

So many who have followed your deceitful doctrines are already in hell regretting.

Yours section in hell will be worse because you have the opportunity to know the truth through this forum but you still deny it.

Enjoy your ride to hell.

Ken4Christ:


Jude 7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING THE VENGEANCE OF ETERNAL FIRE.

The physical fire consumed their bodies but their souls are in hell.

You need help to gain the Bible knowledge, you don't know anything for now.

Please confirm this your statement with a scripture. Because my own Bible tells me that a soul that sins will die. You keep confusing yourself, are you saying there is physical hell and spiritual hell?

Haba.....

The two fires are not the same.

Notice the phrase, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. It didn't say, suffered as in past tense. It says suffering as in present continuous term.

You are fighting against the truth at all cost. It shall never be well with Rutherford and Russell.