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Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 11:40pm On Jan 08, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Ook. So your own god was created? Interesting. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Kobojunkie: 11:41pm On Jan 08, 2023 |
TruthHurts100:You are the one who asked of who created God so you would be the one to have such answer, not me. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 8:11am On Jan 09, 2023 |
TruthHurts100: No hatred at all but I have to expose the evil sect to save a few people from hell. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 8:13am On Jan 09, 2023 |
Janosky: No, it's you that will be in unbearable pains and torments in hell for spreading lies. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 9:03am On Jan 09, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Ken4Christ: Pastorpreneur, Psalm 9:17 ( popular verse your mentors quote) says you are throwing tantrums and typing GIBBERISH. Psalm 9:17 New Living Translation The wicked will go down to the grave. This is the fate of all the nations who ignore God. English Standard Version The wicked shall return to Sheol, all the nations that forget God. Berean Standard Bible The wicked will return to Sheol—all the nations who forget God. King James Bible The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God Sheol= Hell= the grave= Genesis 3:19 & Psalm 9:17
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Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 1:13pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Janosky: Does this verse below also refer to grave? Why are you people so grossly dishonest? Matthew 25:41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, YE CURSED, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE , prepared for the devil and his angels: 1 Like |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:23pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Everlasting fire meaning complete destruction so unlike the first death where casualties can be resurrected the second death (Lake of Fire) connotes death where casualties have no hope. So when God destroy Satan and his demons they're no worshipers of God neither have they any hope of a come back to life, that is what will happen to unrepentant evildoers. This stupidity need to stop. Preach about the Goodness that's expected of your God instead of concentrating on what will happen to evildoers. Nobody is interested in whatever will be the condition of those evildoers rather we are interested in knowing what God has in stock for His loyal ones! 1 Like |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 3:28pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Ken4Christ:2 Peter 2:6 & Jude 1:7 let the holy scriptures speak for itself. ◄ Jude 1:7 ► In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. 2 Peter 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an example unto those that after should live ungodly; Oga Pastorpreneur @ 2 Peter 2:6 & Jude 1:7, your own Bible says it's the example that must befall evildoers. Oga Pastorpreneur @ 2 Peter 2:6 & Jude 1:7, did your "Everlasting fire" turn Sodom and Gomorrah to a place of everlasting torture ? Were the evildoers of Sodom & Gomorrah turned to ashes by your "everlasting fire"? This pastorpreneur Ken4, is grossly dishonest, but Jesus Christ exposed him @ Luke 17:29. Luke 17:29 New International Version 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them
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Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 4:59pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Janosky: Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING THE VENGEANCE OF ETERNAL FIRE. The physical fire consumed their bodies but their souls are in hell. The two fires are not the same. Notice the phrase, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. It didn't say, suffered as in past tense. It says suffering as in present continuous term. You are fighting against the truth at all cost. It shall never be well with Rutherford and Russell. 1 Like |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 5:01pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Revelation 19:20 And the BEAST was taken, and with him the FALSE PROPHET that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. THESE BOTH WERE CAST ALIVE INTO A LAKE OF FIRE burning with brimstone. Why didn't the fire consume the beast and the false Prophet. They are acknowledged to still be there after the 1,000 years reign of Christ. The devil had to join them. Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Why didn't the fire consume the beast and the false Prophet? Another lie exposed. There is no hiding place for your lies. 1 Like |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:18pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: You're just a sadist. Go and get a life because God never had such thoughts {Jeremiah 7:31} if you read such a thing and concluded it's literal then you must be as stupid as those who thought Jesus was talking about cannibalism when he spoke to them in parables! John 6:61-65 Satan and his demons and all false prophets has been erased from God's plan for the future that's the meaning of what you're reading. So all those that failed to do what will make their names enter into the book of life will also join them in that same condition! Revelations 20:15 |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 6:23pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Dishonest pastorpreneur & him 3 deities worshippers TWISTING of holy scriptures. Let's expose your pastorpreneur buffoonery further in the 2nd & 3rd sentences of Jude1:7. 1st point: Is Sodom and Gomorrah existing today? No,not all ! "Gave themselves over to fornication", CORRECT. 2 Peter 2:6 & Luke17:29, Jesus and Peter said so. 2nd Point: Your 3 deities worshippers rendered their translation of Jude1:7 in futuristic terms- this is dishonest, DUBIOUS & TWISTING of holy scriptures. 3rd point: Jude 1:7 occurred in the old testament. Jude wrote chapter 1 verse 7 in past tense. Contemporary English Version & New International Version rendition of Jude 1:7 (screenshot) agreed with Jesus Christ @ Luke 17:29 Oga Pastorpreneur, your deception exposed.
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Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 6:35pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Ken4Christ:Deceptive doctrine of men passed off as scriptures. The confused pastorpreneur says the fires of hellfire is different from the fires of everlasting fire. Yet,he is desperate to convince this forum that everlasting fire @ Matthew 25:41 & Jude 1:7 is the same place of torture chamber
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Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 6:44pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Ken4Christ:That is the TWISTING of the holy scriptures your Pastorpreneurs & Trinitarian translators DUBIOUSLY inserted into the holy scriptures. Read the same Jude 1:7 in New International Version & New Living Translation. Ken4Christ: Your pastorpreneur TWISTING, LYING and buffoonery have been thoroughly examined and exposed. Demi gods of men,You can continue to insult the dead wey done born many generations of your great great great grandparents. It speaks volumes about your upbringing. Nonsense!!! . |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:15pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
AntiChristian: See this always lying devil and twisting serpent Begotten basically means to "bring into existence" beget /bɪˈɡɛt/ Learn to pronounce verbLITERARY past participle: begotten 1. (especially of a man) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction. 2. cause; bring about. But perverts and sex demons like would only see sex as the only means of production and reproduction. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 10:41pm On Jan 09, 2023 |
Janosky: Every version reads eternal fire. The fire that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah is not eternal. It has ceased to burn. But the fire Jude is talking about is that of hell. That fire is not quenched. Mark 9:43. And our Lord Jesus confirmed it when he said; And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go INTO HELL, INTO THE FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED. Here our Lord Jesus did not just mention hell but he gave a further description of what happens there. He said, the fire in hell is never quenched. But Russell is opposing the truth of Christ and has brainwashed you never to accept the truth. Who should we listen to? Jesus or Russell? If you choose to follow Russell's teachings which clearly contradicts that of Jesus, you will have yourself to blame on judgment day. Russell will not be there to defend his demonic teachings. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 12:04am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Wow! Evil sect. How are they evil? If you can't point to a single sensible reason why you call them evil. Keep quiet. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 12:08am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Oga rest. You don't even know what you're talking about. I will give you a scripture to explain now and you will either run away or expose your lack of knowledge. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Oya run and never come back. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 12:12am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Our Lord, who is your lord? |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 12:21am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: The amazing thing here is that you seriously think you know what you're talking about. Fire in the Greek scriptures is mostly figurative. And John in revelation 20:14 told you the meaning of the fire fire but you still will not see it. Because the god of this system has blinded your mind eyes. God is a God of justice, yet he didn't born Adam and Eve in fire, he did born Cain, the first murder in fire. Its those that inherit sin, that lived in sin for less than 200 years, he will born them in fire forever, sit on his throne and enjoy the suya smell abi? Satan is wicked, see how he has turned you to a dummy. Oga, emancipate yourself from the bondage of Satan. The time left is very short. For you to understand the Bible easily, stop reading all these thou shalt shalant old forgotten translation. The translation in modern English language is different from blalabu, blublu bá, ulabaaaa |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Steep(m): 2:27am On Jan 10, 2023 |
TruthHurts100:First of all, God and Jesus are not the same in what way? Yes God [the father] is not the same person as Jesus but however are one God. Jesus christ as a man is less than the father but as God he and the father are one being (not in person). The Trinity is the existence of one being in three persons or three persons in one being. Jesus is the first born over all creation means he is the Supreme ruler over all or the head of all creation. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 8:00am On Jan 10, 2023 |
TruthHurts100: But he burnt Sodom and Gomorrah with literal fire. The Bible does not play with words. If it's figurative, it will be stated. The teachings of our Lord Jesus shows it's not figurative because it added that the fire will never be quenched. It also describes the experiences of those who will be tormented. It says that they will weep and gnash their teeth. Must you defend lies to a fault. Even your very conscience tells you that you are lying but you are ignoring it just to propagate your lies based on pre conceived opinions. Even the book of Revelation confirms it's a literal fire because it says that they will be tormented day and night. What other proof do you need? Even if Jesus comes down and tells you the truth, you will not believe. You are possessed with the spirit of unbelief. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 8:05am On Jan 10, 2023 |
TruthHurts100: There is but one Lord who is Jesus whom you don't believe in. You deny his bodily resurrection asserting he rose without his body. You also deny that he is not returning back visibly when the scripture teaches otherwise. You are an agent of darkness disguised as ministers of light. Get ready to join your founders in hell. So many who have followed your deceitful doctrines are already in hell regretting. Yours section in hell will be worse because you have the opportunity to know the truth through this forum but you still deny it. Enjoy your ride to hell. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 8:11am On Jan 10, 2023 |
TruthHurts100: Second death does not mean cessation of existence. Even death itself never meant cessation of existence. If it did, The Bible will not say that God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. These partriachs are physically dead but they still live on. So, reprogramme your brain that death does not mean cessation of existence. The one who dies only ceases to function on earth but he lives on in the realm of the spirit. This is why Apostle Paul said he has a desire to leave this earth and be with the Lord. He knew that if he dies, his spirit will be with the Lord with his full senses. The story of the rich man and Lazarus teaches that death is a transition to hell or heaven. But you still do not believe the story. The spirit of unbelief has possesed you because you opened your mind to receive the demonic teachings of Jehovah's Witness. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:12am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Mr Hell! Ken4Christ: |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 8:14am On Jan 10, 2023 |
TruthHurts100: They are evil because they oppose the truth of God's word with numerous lies some of which I have exposed. I will expose more over time. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 8:15am On Jan 10, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: It's the scripture and not me. I don't want you to go there because I love you. Not just you but everyone reading this article. The place is very hot and unbearable. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 8:50am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Do you know the truth? You're the evil person calling a loving God a mass murderer. Your god go roast humans like Suya. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 8:54am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: You don't know anything. And I'm sorry for you. Who told you that the rich man and lazarus is a real story? It is an illustration sir. Study your Bible. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 8:57am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: And Jesus went there abi? Job even prayed to go to hell to rest. Olodo, dem dey rest inside fire? |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 9:02am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: OK Pastor, I will go to hell if Jesus went there. If Job went there. Leave me. But Oga explain Revelation 20:14 or walk away. Don't talk to me again. Let me help you quote it. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 10:13am On Jan 10, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Before can respond to this, first explain Revelation 20:14. If you can't explain it with scriptural reasoning, go ask those that destroyed the natural intelligent mind that God gave to you. |
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