AntiChristian:
We are humans! So we interpret like humans!

So which is applicable to Jesus here?

Which is applicable to all humans?

Where can we place this?
Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called sons of God!

Ken4Christ:


Matthew 27:51-52
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and MANY BODIES OF THE SAINTS which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

They were the cloud that received Jesus when he ascended back to heaven.

Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and A CLOUD RECEIVED HIM out of their sight

The Bible calls the saints, cloud of witnesses - Hebrews 12:1.

Ken4Christ:


I am helping you to know this truth so that you will not go there.

The devil through Jehovah Witness is teaching people otherwise so they will be lured there.

Please, harden not your heart while you still have the opportunity to be saved. Once you are in there, you can't come out.

The sorrow is unimaginable. The pain is unbearable.

AntiChristian:


But Jesus is the son of God! How was he begotten? Did he just existed from nothing? And then become part of your God?

It seems your Bible will only be understood without deep reasoning!

AntiChristian:


Adam was created in the Physical realm from earth material with the soul from God.
How was Jesus specifically created to be son of God while God is the father without reproduction?

Janosky:


Oga Pastorpreneur, sorrow unimaginable pain unbearable in a perpetual torture furnace is your "truth".
Be a shining example of your "Truth".

Whenever your child disobey you, for 12 hours , please place his hands on the burning flame of your gas cooker and practice your "truth".

If you don't practice this punishment in your home, everything you parrot here is GIBBERISH..

Janosky:


Pastorpreneur, wrong!
John 3:13, Jesus Christ is the first person RESURRECTED to heaven, Jesus said.
No human being resurrect to heaven before Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
That was a vision not real event otherwise Jews that witnessed dead people walking around will tell others moreover flesh and blood can't go to heaven!

Ken4Christ:

You always want to tell us what the scripture didn't say. If it's a vision, the Bible would have told us. So, it's not a vision.

MaxInDHouse:


It's a vision that's why you can't answer thought provoking questions having to do with it!

Ken4Christ:

You must be high on drugs. Why do you always want to impose your beliefs on others even when there are no scriptures to back them up.
Show me where it says its a vision.

MaxInDHouse:


Show me where other writers relate the same event!

Ken4Christ:

It is true that the narration is contained in the gospel of Matthew alone but it is consistent with the scriptures.
The writer of Hebrews mentioned spirit of just men made perfect in heaven. How did they get there? - Hebrews 12:23.

MaxInDHouse:

Matthew's account is characterized by prophetic utterances so whenever you're reading such in Matthew it's about what the future holds for the dead that Jesus' death has confirmed. Because of the sacrificial death of the lamb of God (Jesus Christ) the resurrection of the dead is certain. That's what the vision is all about!

in general assembly, and the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens, and God the Judge of all, and the spiritual lives of righteous ones who have been made perfect. Hebrews 12:23
The congregation of the firstborn has been enrolled in heaven. Jesus is the firstborn from the dead {Revelations 1:5} meaning nobody has been raised from the dead to continue living before Jesus every other resurrected person before him still died later. So the congregation of the firstborn here means those whose names has been WRITTEN in heaven just as Jesus told his faithful disciples! Luke 10:20

No spirit has gone to heaven during the time Paul wrote that letter, in fact resurrection has not started at all by then. Paul made it clear that by the time resurrection will start it's those believers who died in Christ that will rise first! 1Thessalonians 4:16-17

Ken4Christ:

1st Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus WILL GOD BRING WITH HIM.
When Jesus is coming, he is coming with the Saints in heaven from the verse above.
They are only coming to pick up their new bodies which will be resurrected. But they are in heaven already in their spirit form.

MaxInDHouse:


So with what bodies are they living in heaven?

Ken4Christ:


Lazarus wasn't in heaven at that time. The paradise is the bosom of Abraham. It was also underneath the earth and separated by a gulf or deep valley from hell. Tell us where the Bible said this.

It was after the resurrection of Jesus that they rose from the dead and relocated to heaven. Tell us where the Bible said Lazarus and Abraham rose to heaven

Ken4Christ:

The spirit man is complete without the body. The physical body only gives man the opportunity to live on earth. You are complete in your spirit form just like angels.

MaxInDHouse:
What then do spirits need bodies for since they're already in heaven as angels? Luke 20:36

Adam wasn't in any spirit form so when he died his death was complete no living part of Adam survived his death! Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

TruthHurts100:



And I'd like to as if this Lazarus that was Jesus' friend that you're talking about or another one.

I'm waiting.

Ken4Christ:

Adam was already created as a spirit man in Genesis 1:26-28.
His body was formed after creating in Genesis 2 so he can function on earth.

MaxInDHouse:


Please quote Genesis 1:26-28

Perhaps my own Bible differs from yours, let me see where your Bible said Adam was created a spirit!

Ken4Christ:

If he was complete spirit, soul and body in Genesis 1:26-28, why would God still need to form his body in Genesis 2?

MaxInDHouse:


Dude, quote what you cited and let's see where it was written that Adam was a spirit!

Ken4Christ:

God is a spirit and the scripture says that he created us in his own image and likewise. Therefore, we are also spirit being.

Ken4Christ:


You must be high on drugs. Why do you always want to impose your beliefs on others even when there are no scriptures to back them up.

Show me where it says its a vision.

Ken4Christ:


God is a spirit and the scripture says that he created us in his own image and likewise. Therefore, we are also spirit being.

Ken4Christ:


God is a spirit and the scripture says that he created us in his own image and likewise. Therefore, we are also spirit being.

LYING Pastorpreneur Screenshots PROVEN.
Genesis 6:3 "God said man is flesh" NOT spirit being.

Bibleref, your fellow 3 deities worshipper disagree with your claim.

Ken4Christ:


Luke 16:25-26
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

Read it in Easy English Translation

25 “My child”, replied Abraham, “remember the time when you were alive on earth. Remember what happened then. You had lots of good things and Lazarus had lots of bad things. Now I am taking *care of Lazarus, and you are in pain.

26 But that is not everything. Between you and us, there is a hole. It is wide and long and deep. There is a reason why this hole is there. Nobody can cross from here to where you are. And nobody can cross from where you are to come here.”

They are not the same Lazarus.

Ken4Christ:


Adam was already created as a spirit man in Genesis 1:26-28.

His body was formed after creating in Genesis 2 so he can function on earth.

Ken4Christ:


Matthew 27:51-52
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and MANY BODIES OF THE SAINTS which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Ken4Christ:




They were the cloud that received Jesus when he ascended back to heaven.

Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and A CLOUD RECEIVED HIM out of their sight

The Bible calls the saints, cloud of witnesses - Hebrews 12:1.