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Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by johnw47: 10:33pm On Jan 16, 2023 |
Janosky: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw janosky 4Christ doesn't set up churches as a business venture, you false jw's love to repeatedly lie all over the place, of course: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 12:36am On Jan 17, 2023 |
MrPRevailer: John 1:1 has been wrongly translated. Just Google the raw Greek language of that scripture and see for yourself. See the attached picture. The two Gods are they represented by the say words in Greek? Did Jesus ever said he's God? Who did he say sent him? Who's will did he say he has come to do? Who's permission did he always ask for before performing miracles? Who was he always praying to? Now let's see the scripture you partly quoted, it is Colossians 1:15. Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: He is the image (reflection, representative, son) of God. The firstborn of all creation, meaning he was created, by someone greater. Now see verse 19: For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell. So, it is by the permission of the Father that Jesus possess all the glory and power in him. This is never difficult, false teachings make the Bible so difficult for innocent people.
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Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:43am On Jan 17, 2023 |
Your delusion is incurable! You said people can't understand unless some spirit first enter them yet they can't agree with what they never understood. So are you saying your pagan ancestors who accepted this religion got that spirit before they became churchgoers or it was forced on them? Ọmọ nobody accepts what they can't explain to others peacefully {Romans 10:13-15} so before anyone can wholeheartedly believe Jesus they need to be preached to with thorough explanation {Matthew 28:19-20} which you don't know anything about that's why you're insisting on a form of delusional spirit. Ken4Christ: |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 9:07am On Jan 17, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You want to follow Jesus teachings or commandments when you don't have a right standing with God. Receive the free gift of righteousness first which is obtained by faith. Even Abraham was declared righteous when he believed God - Genesis 15:6. Believe in Jesus first and receive the free gift of righteousness before you start looking for rules to keep. You are not a part of the family of God yet. But the door is opened anytime. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 9:10am On Jan 17, 2023 |
Janosky: If the beast and the false prophet thrown into the Lake of Fire in Revelation 19:20 are still there after over 1,000 years by the record of Revelation 20:10, know that the torture is for eternity. Please, believe in Jesus and escape that horrible place. Salvation is a free gift. But if you reject it, you will end up in that horrible place. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Denoh68: 3:27pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:ILL CONCEIVED DOCTRINE, BREWING CONTROVERSIES THROUGHOUT THE GLOBE. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Dtruthspeaker: 3:36pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
Denoh68: Evil people brew controvery over clear matters. The Bible did say they are one and it should be understandable. But of course evil people suffer understanding default. Funny, I just found out that trinity is also in what people wrongly call the old testament, so those saying John made a mistake and have removed it from their bibles (Curse) also have to remove it in the old testament for it is there. (Increased Curse) Exactly how every material thing in what people call old testament is repeated in the new testament. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 7:39pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
johnw47: Deluded attention seeking WAILER typing GIBBERISH. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 7:47pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Oga, Please, present the evidence for your 3 claims. Shalom. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 8:13pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Deluded Pastorpreneur Which sin did beast commit ? Which of the beast- Lion , Tiger, Cow or Dog? Did your own Bible says "lake of fire means second death?" False prophet plentiful, Whom among them was thrown in to die for the second time or second death? Christendom doesn't understand anything about lake of fire in Revelation. Christendom's Pastorpreneurs designed a perpetual torture chamber in their head & claimed God did it for the Devil as if fire can harm spirits.. If you understand spirituality, you would know that spiritual realm have no physical limitations. Fire can't do nothing to spirits God did not build torture chamber to punish anybody. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MrPRevailer(m): 9:22pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
TruthHurts100: Jesus did not say "I am God." But he said "I am the Son of God." And he is subject to the Father just as your own Soul or Spirit is subject to your Body. It I don't believe those antichrist Greek ideologies or modern Antichrist campaigns trying to discredit the truth. KJV was created by 450 Greek and Hebrew scholars supervised by King James of England and from it, 99% others versions have been created. I thought I already mentioned the interaction between God and the Spirit of God in Genesis 1:2-3 and verse 26 ?? Also, in Revelation 19:13 "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." What religion are you? |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 9:31pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
Janosky: If fire does nothing to spirit, why will God throw Satan into the Lake of Fire after the 1,000 years reign of Christ? Revelation 20:10 And the DEVIL that deceived them WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, AND SHALL BE TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT for ever and ever. I think you should visit a psychiatrist. Read the verse above and tell me spirits are not thrown into fire. Also tell me that fire doesn't torment them. This is why I insist that Jehovah Witness are anti Christ. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MrPRevailer(m): 9:50pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
Janosky: Revelation 5:13 Ahh, this one shook you well well. Again again!!
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Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by johnw47: 10:16pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
Janosky: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw janosky all you can do is keep posting your much repeated lies, of course: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by johnw47: 10:29pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
Janosky: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw janosky all u fool can do is repeatadly laugh at your own lies: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by johnw47: 11:04pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
Janosky: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw janosky u fool cannot stop laughing at your own much repeated lies and blasphemy: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Eph_4:30 Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God Mar_3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:21pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni Abraham no know Jesus so nah right sense he follow no be delusion like you! So if your own Jesus makes no sense go and preach it outside there. My own Jesus makes perfect sense and i can explain to anybody you don't have to believe anything before i convince you about my own Jesus! Ken4Christ: |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 11:49pm On Jan 17, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: OK ooo. Don't say I didn't warn you. That place is very hot ooo. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and avoid it. The choice is yours. It shall never be well with Rutherford and Russell and the person who made you a convert of Jehovah Witness. See the damage they have done to your brain. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:30am On Jan 18, 2023 |
Guy you don't know anything about Jesus so humble yourself and learn instead of expecting mugus to gather around you so you can extort money from them claiming you're the gateman of heaven and your imaginary hell! Ken4Christ: |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 9:06am On Jan 18, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You are indirectly insulting Jesus you claim to follow his teachings. You are saying that Jesus is having a picture of imaginary hell because he spoke about it in such a way that it could be understood that it is a place of torture. See what will happen to an hypocrite like you who reject the truth Matthew 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. Matthew 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. Matthew 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. Luke 13:28 THERE SHALL BE WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. Tell me that Jesus was imagining a place of torture that didn't exist. A weed smoker is better than you. Maybe, this will fit you better. Wailing is worse than weeping. Matthew 13:42 And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. Matthew 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. Tell me again that Jesus was imagining these places. Hypocrite. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:01am On Jan 18, 2023 |
Jesus spoke in ILLUSTRATIONS! Matt 13:13 So you need to distinguish between parables and literal words! Ken4Christ: |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by TruthHurts100: 11:28am On Jan 18, 2023 |
MrPRevailer: We are on the same page sir. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 2:34pm On Jan 18, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Illustrations that imagines severe torments which are not real is insanity. Are you saying that Jesus is insane? If he is not, then he meant what he said. You are the one rejecting the truth because it does not agree with your fabricated lies. You know deep within you that the statements are so clear but you still reject them. Why must you defend a lie to a fault? Even to the detriment of your soul. Well, you will believe when you finally get there but it will be too late. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:59pm On Jan 18, 2023 |
There's no pain after death {Eccl 9:5-10} so you should find out what Jesus meant by those words! Ken4Christ: |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 6:50pm On Jan 18, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: The men of old did not know the complete truth on eternal reality. So, you can't rely on their statements as a final authority on issues like this. Jesus is the truth. He existed before all things and by him were all things created. So, you either accept what Jesus taught or get ready to perish. I can see that the doctrine of JW has done much damage to your brain that you find it difficult to accept the truth even when it is plainly stated. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:58pm On Jan 18, 2023 |
Who inspired them to pen down those words regarding the real condition of the dead? 2Timothy 3:16 compare to 2Peter 1:21 You're just being credulous! Ken4Christ: 1 Like |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 7:16pm On Jan 18, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Not every statement in the Bible was inspired by God. Satan also spoke and his words were recorded in the Bible. Will you say Satan was inspired too? Even God himself condemned some statements made by Job during his days of afflictions. Apostle Paul who said that all scriptures are inspired by God also said some of the things he wrote are his opinions on few occasions. So, don't ride on Paul's statement and hold on to verses that appears to agree with your opinions and turn blind eyes to those that don't agree. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 9:38pm On Jan 18, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: This Pastorpreneur confirmed Jesus gospel truth: "So, you either accept what Jesus taught or get ready to perish." The same truth of JWs he is calling "brainwashed". Jesus truth- Luke 17:29, Matthew 24:37-39, John 3:15-16, unbelief= Perish/Destruction. Pastorpreneur gospel- unbelief= Everlasting torture in hellfire,a fiery chamber furnace. Pastorpreneur opposing Jesus & teaching GIBBERISH . |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 9:53pm On Jan 18, 2023 |
MrPRevailer: @Revelation 5:13, Jesus Christ the Lamb is praised,by the permission of God his Father and to the glory of God his Father. The Screenshot PROVEN evidence provided by Bishopkingsley (your fellow 3 persons deities worshipper), @ Revelation 5:13-14 Jesus Christ did NOT receive worship.
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Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Janosky: 9:57pm On Jan 18, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: This Pastorpreneur confirmed Jesus gospel truth: "So, you either accept what Jesus taught or get ready to perish." The same truth of JWs he is calling "brainwashed". grin grin Jesus truth- Luke 17:29, Matthew 24:37-39, John 3:15-16, unbelief= Perish/Destruction. Pastorpreneur gospel- unbelief= Everlasting torture in hellfire,a fiery chamber furnace. Pastorpreneur opposing Jesus & teaching GIBBERISH . |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 10:03pm On Jan 18, 2023 |
Janosky: Don't worry, I will expose all your false teachings very soon which are too numerous to mention. JW are professional liars from the very pit of hell. They lure people away from the truth and make them double candidate of the very hell they say does not exist. Since you have chosen to oppose the teachings of Christ, your punishment is sure and your destruction is certain. Your founders are already wailing in hell. You will join them soon. May God deliver new souls from your false teachings in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen Amen and Amen. |
Re: God And Jesus Are Not The Same Or Equal. by Ken4Christ: 10:05pm On Jan 18, 2023 |
Janosky: Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. |
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