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Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by madegreatbygrace(m): 6:33pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
And I stand to be corrected that water baptism was only performed twice in the book of Acts. The first was done by Phillip with the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8 , and the second is Peter in the house of Cornelius in Acts 10. That should tell you something. |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 7:36pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:No passage in the bible tells how Cornelius was baptized in your terms |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 7:37pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace:I am not getting your point. I thought you were talking about how baptism should be performed.. please explain better |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 7:44pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
I do not know If I am understanding you. Are you saying that baptism is no longer relevant or that the mode of baptism is lost from the scripture or what really? |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 7:45pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace:More than twice. Remember Paul was baptized |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by freshboi88: 7:55pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
Tcwork: No rush Do u now agree that scripturally baptism of water doesn't have to be in a body of water like u earlier said? |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by madegreatbygrace(m): 7:56pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
quote author=Tcwork post=96904694]I do not know If I am understanding you. Are you saying that baptism is no longer relevant or that the mode of baptism is lost from the scripture or what really? It’s no longer relevant |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by madegreatbygrace(m): 8:00pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
quote author=Tcwork post=96904738] More than twice. Remember Paul was baptized Give scriptural backing |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 8:39pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
[quote author=madegreatbygrace post=96905150] Give scriptural backing [/quote Acts 9 |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 8:40pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace:Oh oh oh.. your point has been that baptism is no longer relevant anymore. Wow. This is a first time. Would you mind some scriptural backing? |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 8:41pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
freshboi88:No I dont, unless you quote that from a scripture |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by freshboi88: 9:01pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
Tcwork: Acts 10:44While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message. 45The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on Gentiles. 46For they heard them speaking in tongues b and praising God. Then Peter said, 47“Surely no one can stand in the way of their being baptized with water. They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have.” 48So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days. Isn't this scripture....is this tales by moonlight? |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by madegreatbygrace(m): 9:02pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
quote author=Tcwork post=96906445] Read all my posts on this thread |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by madegreatbygrace(m): 9:05pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
quote author=[quote]Tcwork post=96906400] Where exactly? Chapter and verse please |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 9:14pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
[quote author=madegreatbygrace post=96907221][/quote] Acts 9.18 |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 9:15pm On Dec 09, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace:But I have been following your post. Your have note quoted anywhere in the bible that makes baptism irrelevant. |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by madegreatbygrace(m): 8:26am On Dec 10, 2020 |
author=Tcwork post=96907478] You must know the difference between water baptism and being baptized in the name of the Lord. “Immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he received his sight at once; and he arose and was baptized.” Acts 9:18 NKJV One of the several meanings of baptism is to be immersed into something, which is not always water. When a man hears the gospel and believes, he’s instantly baptized(immersed) into the body of Christ . This has nothing to do with water. In the foregoing, and many other instances in the book of Acts, Paul heard the gospel and believed and was baptized (NOT With water) into the body. This is when he was officially welcome into the body of Christ. You can’t become a member unless you’re immersed into the body of members. Here are other instances: “Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” Acts 2:38 NKJV “Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.” Acts 2:41 NKJV “But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.” Acts 8:12 NKJV The instances above are not water baptism but baptism into the body, which is the same as baptism into the name of the Lord. When it came to water baptism, water was mentioned and it was clear, precise and unequivocal. There are only two instances: “Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, “See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?”” Acts 8:36 NKJV ““Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have? ”” Acts 10:47 NKJV |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 9:15am On Dec 10, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by madegreatbygrace(m): 10:50am On Dec 10, 2020 |
[quote author=Tcwork post=96919625] The thief on the cross did water baptism, abi? |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 1:02pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
[quote author=madegreatbygrace post=96922527][/quote] Neither you or I know. We don't know him, we can't tell if he had been previously baptized. We don't know his name. So you may not be right trying to make Jesus look like a liar. Jesus Christ can never lie. If he says a man must be born of water and then the spirit before administration to the kingdom of God, he meant it. Also you need to know that paradise is not same as the kingdom of God. Even though this is another topic |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 1:08pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace:Please boss would you want to show a scripture that tell us to stop water baptism for this new kind of baptism you are suggesting. Did it happen after the baptism of Jesus. Now you keep saying that the baptism in the new testament has nothing to do with water. How did you come about such decision. Or are we inventing a new bible here. If you tell me that maybe God revealed it to you personally that's another thing but you keep quoting passage's in the bible and claiming the baptism was done without water. Please how do you know. |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Freshboi87: 1:40pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: MATTHEW 28:18-20 (KJV and NRSV) And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. Stop saying what you don't know sir. Read Jesus's command. |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 1:55pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Freshboi87:I am not getting your point. All baptism is done in the name of the father son and holy ghost. Baptism is not just taking a bath. It's a spiritual ordinace done in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost. That is the meaning of baptism. Simple it means to immerse in water in the name of the Father the Son and Holy Ghost. Please if there is another way kindly explain it |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 1:59pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Wait can you kindly explain how this new dry baptism is done and show me anywhere it was done in the scripture. Another question, why was water baptism stopped? Who stopped it? What is the process of this type of baptism and how is it done... show from scripture. |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 2:01pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
You keep showing me scripture's that talk about getting baptized. I agree to all those scriptures. The issue is that you are saying these scriptures were talking ofor a new kind of baptism. Yet you have not shown anything to prove this. Where was it indicated that these baptism was carried out without water? |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Freshboi87: 2:07pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Tcwork: You will not get my point for two reason: 1. I quoted someone else not you 2. You refuse to be open minded New testament usage of water baptism doesnt always mean to immerse in water. No where in the new testament does it say that baptism was done by immersion inside water. if you can prove it. post the scripture |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 2:40pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
[quote author=Freshboi87 post=96928825] You will not get my point for two reason: 1. I quoted someone else not you. Nothing you quoted says baptism is not done by immersion or that it is done in some new strange way 2. You refuse to be open minded....I am quite open minded. You say new testament usage of water baptism doesn't mean immersion yet you really can't prove it. In fact it's not indicated anywhere in scripture that baptism is done by some other means. How you came about you new baptism is really strange. Now you say the new testament does not sat baptism is done by immersion even though baptism means immersion, still you cannot show where it says baptism should be done in this strange way you are proposing. It's like you are writing an entirely new bible. 3. Finally I beg you to explain to me how this new baptism is carried out. |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 2:41pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
I actually thought I would learn something from you but so far, I am still waiting for you to tell me about this new baptism. |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 2:41pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Your baptism theory has too many unanswered questions |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Tcwork: 2:44pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
The bible talked about one faith, one Lord and one baptism but you juse added another type of baptism. The dry baptism. Christianity is getting more interesting |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Freshboi87: 3:13pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
[quote author=Tcwork post=96929746][/quote] you earlier said baptism must be done where there is a body of water. You said that was the new testament standard. I showed you that you are wrong by showing you the baptism of cornelius and his household which was not done in any body of water but in his house. I am not the one who claims one method is a standard and all others are wrong scripturally. So I do not have anything to prove. However, if I wanted to assume like u. I would say the Baptism of cornelius was certainly not done by immersion because Cornelius house was certainly not built on top on a river. But i know that if i do that, i am inferring. because the bible doesnt say how it was done. Just the same way the bible is silent on what mode was used for those done in a body of water. If you have a verse where the bible is specific on what mode was used please quote it here |
Re: Is Baptism By Immersion Biblically The Acceptable Mode Of Baptism by Freshboi87: 3:15pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Tcwork: Please can u quote where i said there is a new kind of baptism |
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