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Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 4:34pm On Jul 02, 2008
Those who Loves LORD JESUS CHRIST and Father in Heaven will definetly make Heaven.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by babs787(m): 8:20pm On Jul 02, 2008
@May Kelly

And your just a baby in the things conerning God. I[b] dealt with Babs787 and he has given up, so talking of you a little kid[/b]. Please go and read your book very well and write on your slat.

Do you care to serve me where you dealt with me? I dont debatye with those that never know their bible let alone debating with from my book. You can still ask your folks and my posts speak for me. I dont debate with infants like you that is still under parents care.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by samba123(m): 10:45am On Jul 06, 2008
May kelly:

Those who Loves LORD JESUS CHRIST and Father in Heaven will definetly make Heaven.

see this entry heaven and earth have been created before Jesus as what you emphasize here? what a childish commentary shocked
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 10:04am On Jul 07, 2008
samba123:

see this entry heaven and earth have been created before Jesus as what you emphasize here? what a childish commentary shocked

samba123 i can't get you, Are you Jealous about LORD JESUS CHRIST? Heaven and Earth might pass away But the WORD of GOD will never. SO the WORD of GOD (LORD JESUS CHRIST) was at the begining with the FATHER even before you were formed there was and has been LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Nwa nze na cheru chi ya ogu. meaning : small tiny bird waiting to wrestle with his god. cool Is not possible.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by babs787(m): 7:24pm On Jul 07, 2008
@May Kelly

samba123 i can't get you, Are you Jealous about LORD JESUS CHRIST? Heaven and Earth might pass away But the WORD of GOD will never. SO the WORD of GOD (LORD JESUS CHRIST) was at the begining with the FATHER even before you were formed there was and has been LORD JESUS CHRIST.


Do you really understand if they say something is with another one. Can a thing that is with another be that same thing?
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by samba123(m): 7:59pm On Jul 07, 2008
samba123 i can't get you, Are you Jealous about LORD JESUS CHRIST?


May Kelly

What!! I’m Jealous about your lord Jesus? my dear Maykelly I have no authority to claim such allegation like that it is your assumption.


Heaven and Earth  might pass away

When was that tomorrow or  next years ?

But the WORD of GOD will never.


So what was the word of God you claim here?

SO the WORD of GOD (LORD JESUS CHRIST)

Calling the name Jesus can not save you from your sins. Are you not bothering calling Jesus which is no her real name? if I call you My Belly[/color][color=#990000][color=#990000][/color] will you recognize that name which is not yours? Think about that, Jesus is an invented name by church, you suppose to call him in his real name not like the other way around. If you are born Jews in Israel  and you name is Eashoa (Aramaic) will you write your name Jesus in the passport to travel to American? Can anybody recognize your native name of your family member if you change that way? Eashoa (in Aramaic)
Isah (in Arabic sister language) and Jesus (invented name in English).
Take a visit to this website how they pronounce Eashoa in Aramic hear their voice if you can hear it a hundred 100x okey. And tell me if SOUND LIKE JESUS ? there is no Letter J or Jay in Aramaic no.

http://www.v-a.com/bible/aramaic-jesus.html


was at the begining with the FATHER even before you were formed

ok no question about that

there was and has been LORD JESUS CHRIST.

can I have the date please? when was that

Nwa nze na cheru chi ya ogu. meaning : small tiny bird waiting to wrestle with his god.  Is not possible
.

A minute creature floating in the universe without wings waiting for salvation . is not possible astronaut is one  of them.  grin grin



Salam (in Arabic) Shalom (in Aramaic) Peace (in English)
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 10:54am On Jul 17, 2008
samba123:

May Kelly
Calling the name Jesus can not save you from your sins. Are you not bothering calling Jesus which is no her real name? if I call you My Belly[/color][color=#990000][color=#990000][/color] will you recognize that name which is not yours? Think about that, Jesus is an invented name by church, you suppose to call him in his real name not like the other way around. If you are born Jews in Israel and you name is Eashoa (Aramaic) will you write your name Jesus in the passport to travel to American? Can anybody recognize your native name of your family member if you change that way? Eashoa (in Aramaic)
Isah (in Arabic sister language) and Jesus (invented name in English).
Take a visit to this website how they pronounce Eashoa in Aramic hear their voice if you can hear it a hundred 100x okey. And tell me if SOUND LIKE JESUS ? there is no Letter J or Jay in Aramaic no.

http://www.v-a.com/bible/aramaic-jesus.html

ok no question about that
can I have the date please? when was that
A minute creature floating in the universe without wings waiting for salvation . is not possible astronaut is one of them. grin grin
Salam (in Arabic) Shalom (in Aramaic) Peace (in English)

Whether isah or isam what matters is that JESUS is the only name gvien among men by which you can be saved, but not Isah or anyother name. Please take note.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by samba123(m): 8:47pm On Jul 17, 2008
May kelly:

Whether isah or isam what matters is that JESUS is the only name gvien among men by which you can be saved, but not Isah or anyother name. Please take note.

why you so a deceiver that the name of Jesus are not found in Aramaic word and the letter J/Jay in alphabet in Aramaic

is absent. its seem you did not take a look to the website I told you do hear how they called your Jesus name in Aramaic. go and figure it out okey

Peace salam shalom
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 4:01pm On Jul 23, 2008
The Qu'ran speaks of Jesus. This message is especially for Muslims who desire to know the truth.



JESUS/ISA (pbuh), the Mercy of God:
A Plea for Sanity, a Plea for True Change

(Assalaamu’laikum wa Rahmatulaahi wa Barakaatuh)

The tragedy of the recent week is still fresh in our minds (The Attack on the World Trade Center NY), and all throughout the world people must deal with the fear and uncertainty of the coming weeks. The stark reality is the specter of death itself, and that anyone of us could have been one of those innocent victims on an airplane, at the office, regardless of race, creed, or color, our children, even me.

My prayer as I write this article is for true reconciliation and true understanding to be established between Muslims, Jews, and Christians for the future days ahead. One can only hope that a paradigm transformation can be born out of this time which will bring forth God/Allah’s SWT mercy and loving compassion in a fresh way.

Peace be upon us as we seek sanity in the midst of insanity. Peace be upon us as we seek to know better the One true God/Allah who is closer than the vein in our neck. Peace be unto us as we seek to know the Unity of the Spirit in the bond of Peace that passes all understanding and guards our hearts and minds.

God/Allah SWT desires that we seriously study these things, for He has the authority to put us in Heaven or sentence us to Hell, based on His justice. Though God/Allah SWT has inscribed the rule of Mercy as an attribute above all others being called Ar’ Rahmanir Rahim (the Most Merciful and Compassionate One), so He has warned us to watch and prepare at all times for the coming of death and the Kiamat (Day of Judgment). All men are appointed to die once and then face the Day in which we all must give an account to our Creator for the choices we have made or failed to make in our time on earth.

"Nay, Allah raised (rafa’a) him up (Jesus/Isa,pbuh) unto Himself; and Allah is exalted in Power, Wise.
"(Qu’ran (Al Nisa) 4:158).

According to both Muslims and Christians, Jesus/Isa (pbuh) is His "Sign unto men and a Mercy from us" Qu’ran 19 Maryam 19:21, …"whose Name is the Messiah, illustrious in this world and in the Hereafter." (Qu’ran 3 Al Imran 45), for Jesus/Isa is the UnCreated Word of God/Allah "…an Apostle (Rasul) of Allah, and His Word (Kalimatuhu), which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from Him (Ruhu minh)" (Qu’ran Al Nisa 4:171).

Why would Jesus/Isa (pbuh) alone be given by God/Allah SWT the title of Messiah (al-Masih), over eleven times in the Qu’ran? Why would Jesus/Isa (pbuh) alone then be given the title of His Word (Kalimatuhu)?

Jesus/Isa (pbuh) is further called "…a Word from Him (Kalimatim min hus)" (Qu’ran Ali Imran 3:45), and again "…a Word from Allah (Kalimatim minallaahi)" (Qu’ran Ali Imran 3:39).

"…(Jesus)Isa is Roh-ul-Lah (The Spirit of Allah), Rasullah (The Messenger of Allah) and Kalimatullah (the Word of Allah)." (Anas bin Malik hal: 72. Qs 4 An Nisaa’ 171).


As the Ahl al Kitab (People of the Book), Christians take every word God says seriously, and they have no need to exaggerate the greatness of the Messiah, for God/Allah SWT Himself lifts Jesus/Isa (pbuh) high above all other names!

The divine mission of Jesus/Isa (pbuh) has never ended, for Jesus/Isa is the UnCreated Word, the everLiving Messiah and Rasul, living Today. The Day of Judgment has been given into his hands alone by God/Allah SWT for ALL MANKIND!

When we pray, we ask God/Allah SWT, to "Show us the Straight Path" (Qu’ran 1 Al-Fatihah 6. Jesus/Isa (pbuh) is that Straight Path to be followed! "And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): Therefore have NO DOUBT about the (Hour) but follow ye Me: This is the Straight Way." (Qu’ran 43 Az Zukhrut 61).

In Surah 19:19, Jesus/Isa (pbuh) alone is called a Sinless One in all the Qu’ran!

He is called "holy" (zakiy-pure, sinless) son (Ghulam (youth or young man). Some Muslim scholars would argue that "zakiy ghulam" means that all infants born are sinless, hence attempting to resolve the problem of a "once in all history" birth of the Sinless Jesus, but this cannot hold up to a careful look. The word used here "Ghulam" meaning youth or young man is similar to that used in Surah 18:74 (a slain youth by Al Khidr), v.80 (rebellious youth), vs.82 (two orphans youth attaining their age of full strength to claim hidden treasure under the wall). To avoid confusion, another word "Tifl" meaning "little children or infants" as in Surah 22:5, 40:67 should have been used in Surah 19:19 if only those below the age of accountability is intended!

My friend, use the mind God/Allah SWT has given you! Why was Jesus/Isa (pbuh) protected from Satan? (Surah 3:36), and "Blessed (Mubarakan) wheresoever he be." (Surah 19:31)? Only Jesus/Isa (pbuh) is able to be in the Presence of God (Surah 4:158) after his ascension without being pulverized like the mountain when God appeared to Moses (Surah 7:143).

Truly, Moses (pbuh) pointed forward to Jesus/Isa as the UnCreated Word of God, the Messiah, the Sinless One, the everLiving One Today. Jesus/Isa (pbuh) was born of a virgin, "The Word became flesh" (Gospel/Injil John 1:14), and dwelt on earth as a once in all history Miracle working Man? Why?

Just as Moses (pbuh) pointed forward to Jesus/Isa (pbuh) in History, Muhammad (pbuh) pointed back in History to the "Center of All History and Judgment on All Mankind", for Muhammad was supposed to be only a Warner (Nazir), to Seal the Truth that Jesus/Isa is the Messiah, the UnCreated Word of God!

Jesus/Isa (pbuh) was sent by God/Allah SWT not just to the Jewish people, but rather to the Entire World in every Age of Mankind, for he is the Judge!

"All authority has been given to Me (Jesus/Isa) in heaven and on the earth, GO, therefore and make disciples of ALL NATIONS (ethnos/tribes and peoples including Arabs), baptizing them in the name of the Father (God/Allah SWT), the Son (the Kalimatuhu,UnCreated Word of God born Sinless of a virgin), and the Holy Spirit (Ruhuminh), teaching them to observe ALL THINGS whatever I have commanded you, and behold, I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS, even to the end of the age." (Gospel/Injil, Matthew 28: 18-20).

God/Allah’s Word is ETERNAL! He has an Eternal Plan for the Ages, "…that in the ages to come, He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness towards us through Jesus/Isa, the Messiah, …for God, who is rich in MERCY, made us alive with the Messiah, even when we were dead in sin, it is by grace you have been saved and God/Allah raised us up with the Messiah, and seated us with him in Heavenly Realms (present tense) in Jesus the Messiah." (Injil/Ephesians 2:4-7).

Therefore, since Jesus/Isa (pbuh) is more than just a Prophet, but rather the Eternal UnCreated Word of God/Allah SWT, his Position and Authority is Eternal as well! In the Taruat/Old Testament, the book of Isaiah (pbuh), we find the prophecy of Jesus/Isa (pbuh) written hundreds of years before both the Injil and the Qu’ran saying,

"Therefore, the Lord Himself shall give you a Sign, BEHOLD, A VIRGIN SHALL CONCEIVE AND BEAR A SON, AND SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL (meaning God/Allah SWT with us). (Taruat/ Isaiah 7:14). Then in the following chapters it speaks of this son saying, "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace, of the increase of his government and peace there shall be NO END!" (Taruat/ Isaiah 9:6,7).


Think of the implications of what the Word of God/Allah says, the Government that Jesus/Isa (pbuh) MUST increase and never, never, never, never, End.

In the Qu’ran, are you asked to OBEY any other than God/Allah SWT? To the One we OBEY, then He is Lord! In the Qu’ran, Jesus/Isa (pbuh) says, "(I have come to you) To attest the Law (Taruat) which was before me, and to make lawful to you part of what was (before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from the Lord, SO FEAR GOD/ALLAH and OBEY ME!" (Surah 3:50).

In Truth, who is the Last Prophet? If Jesus/Isa (pbuh) is the Eternal UnCreated Word of God, living Forever speaking for God/Allah, Judging in the Judgment upon ALL MANKIND, both Christian and Muslim, chronologically, who is Last?

You must have the courage to answer this between you and God/Allah SWT.

Jesus/Isa (pbuh) is not the forerunner preparing the way for Islam, for he is the UnCreated Word of God, "Jesus Christ (the Messiah, Anointed One), is the same yesterday, and today, and forever." (Injil/ Hebrews 13:cool.

"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: O Children of Israel I am the Apostle of Allah (sent) to you confirming the Law (which came/Taraut/Old Testament) before me, and giving glad tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad" (Qu’ran, Surah 61:6).


Jesus/Isa (pbuh) was talking to Israelites in the context of Surah 61:6 of the coming Rasul named Ahmad who will also be sent to the Israelites. There is NO mention of the Ishmaelites, Arabs or Quraishites in Surah 61:6….AN ISRAELITE RASUL IS ANTICIPATED! The name Ahmad and not Muhammad was given. The meaning of both names are different and also antithetical-Ahmad means "one who gives praise" and Muhammad means "one who receives praise or praiseworthy"! According to Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan and Dr. Muhammad Taqi ud Din Al-Hilali, The Noble Quran, pg. 790, "the second name of Muhammad and it (Ahmad) literally meaning "One who praises Allah more than others."

Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 6, pg. 488 states Surah 61:6 is a variant reading and the name "Ahmad or "Muhammad" was not stipulated but ONLY AN UNNAMED PROPHET was given: "O Children of Israel, I am God’s Messenger to you and I announce to you a prophet whose community will be the last community and by which God will put the seal of the prophets and messengers".

This prophecy is apparently by the Muslim scholars own admission not a clear Sign (Ayat) of God/Allah SWT. This is not consistent with the claim in Surah 2:1, "This is the Book in its guidance, sure and without doubt, to those who fear Allah."

Therefore, who is Jesus/Isa (pbuh) speaking of in Surah 61:6? Perhaps, the Apostle Paul! This Israelite terrorist of the Christians had a personal revelation of Jesus, who commissioned him to take the everlasting Gospel to ALL NATIONS!

First, the Apostle Paul went to his fellow Jews, and then later was directed to go to the unbelievers. Paul faithfully preached to all the Greek, Roman and ARAB world! Yes, turn to the Injil, New Testament in Galatians 1: 13-17 and see!

"For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism, how intensely I persecuted the church of God and tried to destroy it. I was advancing in Judaism beyond many Jews my own age and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers. But when God, who set me apart from birth and called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son in me that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not consult any man, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to see those who were apostles before I was, but I went immediately into ARABIA and later returned to Damascus."(Injil/ Galatians 1:13-17), see also Injil/Acts 9:1-31, 21:40-22:1-21.

Paul the Apostle was fluent in Aramaic and was said to spend up to 12 years in Arabia teaching about Jesus/Isa (pbuh) and warning people to turn to God from darkness, so its seems strange to see it said in the Qu’ran of Muhammad (pbuh),

"To give warning to a people to whom No Warner (Nazir) had come before thee." (Qu’ran Surah 28:46 (32:3). Is it not true that there were many Christians throughout the Middle East by the time of Muhammad (pbuh)?

Some may try to dismiss everything by saying the Injil (New Testament), Zabur, (Psalms), and Taurat (Old Testament) are all corrupted by men, yet they are truly Ignorant . The Qu’ran teaches the Bible is the Word of God/Allah SWT and can never be corrupted, changed or altered!

The Qu’ran says, "And in their footsteps We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was Guidance, and Light and Confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a Guidance and an admonition to those who fear God. Let the People of the Gospel judge by what God hath revealed therein." (Surah 5:46-47).

", No change can there be in the Words of God." (Surah 10:65).

"…there is None that can alter the Words (and decrees) of God." (Surah 6:34).








Baizawi says on this verse, "There is no altering His sayings, and there is no breach of His promises." Therefore, many stand quilty before God/Allah on the Day of Judgment for rejecting the truth of their own Books, and will be labeled as without religion (kafirs). Jesus/Isa (pbuh) is the Eternally Living Prophet, yes, much more than a Prophet, the Eternal Word of God/Allah, therefore, his Word is UnChanging and Authoritative yesterday, today and forever speaking to every dispute God/Allah’s SWT divine answers!

"Such (was/is) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of Truth, about which they (vainly) dispute." (Qu’ran 19 Maryam 34).

"Laa mahdiyan illa Isabnu Maryam" "There is no Imam Mahdi (Fully Guided Intercessor) except Jesus the Son of Mary." (Hadiths Ibnu Majah)


Do you honor Jesus/Isa (pbuh) as "God/Allah’s Word" (Qu’ran 4 An Nisa 171), and "a Sign for all Peoples"? (Qu’ran 21 Al Aanbiyaa 91). Do you wish to honor this one who is "nearest to Allah" both now and in the hereafter? (Qu’ran 3 Aali Imram 45). God/Allah SWT is the Protector of His Word and He will protect you as well if you trust in Him today through the name of Jesus/Isa!

"Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved." (Injil/ Acts 4:12).

First, do you believe? "And this is his command: to believe in the name of his son, Jesus the Messiah(Christ), and to love one another as he commanded us." (Injil/ I John 3:23-24) "Those who obey his commands live in him, and he in them."(vs. 24).

"For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved." (Injil/ Romans 10:10).


The prayer of Muhammad (pbuh) before his death: "Oh God, forgive me, have mercy upon me and contact me to the Most High Friend." (Hadiths Shahih Bukari 1573). Then he lifted up his hand saying, "The Most High Friend.", then his hand laid down and he passed away. (Bukari 1574).

Who is this Most High Friend, Muhammad (pbuh) called upon at his death? "I am closer to Jesus the son of Mary in this earth and heaven." (Hadiths Shahih Bukari 1501). Yes, the Most High Friend whom Muhammad called upon in his last moments was Jesus/Isa (pbuh)!

I plead with you today in a world that has lost much of its sanity to consider this:

It is not an accident that your eyes have found this article, God/Allah has directed you to look at this today!

"Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts, as you did in the rebellion." (Injil/ Hebrews 3:15).

Secondly, I plead with you by the Mercy of God, to repent and change the direction you have been going, admit the wrong thinking and doing of your life, fear God/Allah SWT, and Obey Jesus/Isa (pbuh)!

"God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble, Submit yourselves then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and He will come near to you. Wash your hands you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will lift you up." (Injil/ James 4:7-10).

Real change of heart leads to clear change of actions. Our motive for doing what is right cannot be just based on good works, its deeper, our motive is gratitude. (6)

"So Peace is on me the day I (Jesus) was born, the day that I die, and the day I shall be raised up to Life (again)" (Qu’ran 19 Maryam 33).

"Behold! God said: "O Jesus! Will take thee and raise thee to myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection…" (Qu’ran 3 Aali Imraan 55).

"That they (unbelieving Jews) said (in boast) "We killed (qatal)( al Masih Isa) Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of Allah," but they killed him not (wa maa qataluuhu), nor crucified him (wa maa salabuuhu), but so it was to appear to them (wa laakin shubbiha lahum), and those who differ therein are full of doubts (Shakk) with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for a surety-They killed him not (wa maa qataluuhu yaqiina)." (Qu’ran Surah 4:157).








Thirdly, Jesus/Isa (pbuh) came to earth as a sinless child for One Divine Purpose, to fulfill prophecy and SUBMIT TO GOD willingly His life as a Sacrifice for the sin of Mankind Once and for all time, so that all Mankind can be brought into a true relationship with God/Allah SWT as a "Sign to ALL PEOPLES".

Though the Jews might have mockingly boasted that they killed Jesus/Isa (pbuh), in truth, they did not, for they only instigated the Romans to actually crucify him. The Roman soldiers were experts at the torture of crucifying people. If they failed to execute the person, especially the right person, the penalty was that they would die for the failure! They always finished the job by thrusting a spear through the victims side to pierce their heart. Secular historians verify that there was no controversy about the death of Jesus/Isa (pbuh). (Injil/ see John 18 & Matthew 27:64). (Josephus/Tacitus) His enemies admit his death. Will you?

The Ignorant have veiled the truth of the death/burial and resurrection of Jesus/Isa (pbuh), by classifying it as a mutashahihat verse, i.e. "a verse in which it is something known only to Allah". The Injil/Gospel (New Testament) is very clear, and "cannot be changed" (Surah 10:65). No wonder, Muhammad had been told to consult the Christians whenever he was in doubt. "If thou (Muhammad) wert in doubt (shakk) as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book (Bible) from before thee." (Surah 10:94).

Study the Taraut (Old Testament) prophecies of the death of Jesus/Isa (pbuh), in Isaiah 50:4-10, 52:13-54:12, 61:1-11, the Zabur, Psalms 22:1-31, 34:20, 69:21, Zechariah 12:10-13:1, and compare them to the events in the Gospel/Injil/ (New Testament). These detailed prophecies were made hundreds of years before their fulfillment, and the fact that they were fulfilled in detail shows God/Allah’s SWT miraculous Sign for All Peoples!

The clear Signs of the Most High Friend (Jesus/Isa (pbuh), reveal the Siratul Mustaqiim (Straight Way) clearly for all mankind to follow.

"To Jesus, son of Mary we gave Clear Signs and strengthened Him with the Holy Spirit…Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error…" (Qu’ran 2 Al Baqarah 253, 256).

Perhaps in religion, we have followed the traditional ways of man more than the miraculous ways of God/Allah SWT. Those who reject other ways so as to obey the clear signs of Jesus/Isa (pbuh) are following the gracious guidance of God/Allah SWT. They are always prepared for death and the Kiamat. They have deep assurance of entering Heaven because they take refuge in the pure Holiness of the Most High Friend. Do you wish to have this assurance? Do you wish to be free from guilt because you have decided not to rely on human guidance, or to depend on the limited goodness of your own deeds?

"…whoever…believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy Hand-hold that never breaks." (Qu’ran 2 Al Baqarah 256).

This famous Ayat ul Kursi is clear when we look at ayat 253: We have security when we believe in the Clear Signs of Isa (Jesus) (pbuh) and the Prophets:

As Roh-ul-Lah, Jesus/Isa (pbuh) is the untainted UnCreated Word, without any form of impurity. Only in his holiness can mankind take His Handhold and make contact with God/Allah SWT, the Holy One, Spirit to spirit. As Roh-ul-Lah, He touches the sick with compassion and the healing power of God/Allah SWT.

In order to create true Love, God/Allah SWT created true Choice, one cannot have one without the other. Yet, once you choose to risk all and submit to Him through the divine Way He provided by Jesus/Isa (pbuh) death, burial, and resurrection. He promises to Raise You to the NEW Life free from sins torment, with power to overcome any test by His strengthening Spirit, and His faithful promise to Hold you Most securely forever as you walk faithfully with Him!

"My sheep listen to my (Jesus/Isa) voice; I know them and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given then to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and my Father are one." (Injil/ John 10:27-30).

Through life and death, we can have this lasting Peace if we believe in the miracle (muzzizah) Sign of God/Allah SWT Ta’ala about life and death.

In Surah Al Imran, ayat 55, Allah SWT, the Owner of the Day of Judgment, took back (the life of) Jesus/Isa, raised him back to Himself.

God/Allah SWT clears Isa (pbuh) of all charges, and rewards highly those who have Faith in the Korban of Isa (pbuh). Inshah Allah, When we take refuge in the Korban sacrifice of Jesus/Isa (pbuh), God/Allah SWT clears us and miraculously raises us to Heavenly places with Him. Al Hamdu’illah!

Can you cry out in the same way as others to our Most High Friend?

Pray now saying:

"Allahumma" (O God/Allah),

"Astafirullah" (forgive my sins) I reject all other ways to save myself and I trust Your Korban Sign in Jesus/Isa (pbuh) to save me on the Kiamat. I receive only your Way. Thank you for your precious Mercy to me. Amin

Jesus/Isa (pbuh) predicted the complete destruction of the Jewish Temple in AD 70, forever setting aside true Old Testament Judaism (only Zionism exists today).

In the Injil/Acts 2:11, when the Gospel of Salvation in Jesus/Isa (pbuh) was preached miraculously in the native tongue of every nation present, (including Arabs), they believed as you do now, and asked the question, what shall we do?

The Apostle Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off---for all whom the Lord our God will call. With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, "Save yourselves from this corrupt generation." (Injil/ Acts 2:38-40). It says the same day 3000 people accepted the message and were baptized and many of them probably became the first Arab Christians.

God/Allah can save anyone, even the worst terrorist like Saul, became the Apostle Paul, saying, "Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief…I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners Christ Jesus/Isa (pbuh) might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life."(Injil/ I Timothy 2:12-17).

God/Allah is calling All to Repentance, Muslims, Christians, Jews, and UnBelievers (especially who think they rule the world from the international Oil Company Offices) to a Worldwide Repentance and Reconciliation through Jesus/Isa (pbuh)!

Yes, God/Allah SWT is calling forth His Judgment upon all those who say they believe in the One True God, and then live like He doesn’t exist! He desires His faithful to honor Him now more than ever. Why? He wishes the UNBELIEVER to see the Prince of Peace rules in the hearts of men today, and that His glory can cover and change the earth just as the oceans He made.

I plead for Sanity in a World Insane, I plead for True Change in a Rebellious Day!

I plead for you to seek and turn to the Prince of Peace, Jesus/Isa (pbuh).

If you wish to read a simple guide to God/Allah’s Toriqabondi (baptism) for new believers, please let us know of your decision to be complete in Isa Al Masih (Jesus the Messiah). (We give permission to translate this faithfully into other languages, and only ask that you email us and let us know when you have done so. Please send us a copy of the finished translation for our records.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 4:19pm On Jul 23, 2008
A document that will especially appeal to Muslims and those with a Chinese background, as well as many others.    


                                                                            His Intimate Presence


Forward


This book was written for the Hui Chinese, many of whom are Muslim at this time. However, it is also an open document to all seekers of the world, whether they be Chinese, Muslim, Jewish, or anyone else who wishes to gain a better understanding of Christianity. No matter where you are from or what you believe, this book will have something to speak to you about our Creator, whom we are all seeking to know better. We encourage you to read it expectantly, with an open heart.

Jesus said, "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon me and learn me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, my burden is light."   The Holy Injil, Matt. 11: 28-30


Preface


This is dedicated to future love, understanding, and hope between the Christians and Muslims of the world.  Once a foolish man stood in front of a fast train and said, "If you believe, it exists. If you don't believe, it doesn't."  The True God exists! And He wants to rescue you!



No. I

His Intimate Presence
"True gold does not fear fire"
by Ma Rong Guang

Introduction



God, the One and only True God, loves the people of China. He is not an unknowable, mysterious Force hidden from His creation. He is not an evil demon-like being like the gods of ancient Chinese folklore. He is not a ideology or philosophical idea or principle of nature. He is not a superstitious figment of peoples imaginations or fears. He is not a foreign religious belief or a foreign idea of men. He is none of these.

God is the One Supreme, Eternal, and Heavenly Ruler of China and of all the Earth. He is the most ancient Ruler of China. Before Buddhism, before Taoism, before Confucius was born, before Muhammad, before dynasties, before all things, "Shang Ti" was worshipped as the One and only True God. He is "above" the Emperor, the Heavenly Ruler and "He is the Living God, and He endures forever; His Kingdom will not be destroyed, His dominion will never end. He rescues and He saves; He performs signs and wonders in the heavens and on the earth."

God is a Spirit who used His eternal Intelligence to create and design all things and how they function and balance together. He is the Great Designer and looks with care over all the works of His hands, if we may say He has hands. All the peoples of the earth were created in His image; not so much any physical image but rather in His spiritual image.

We are not an object of random Chance or blind Fate. We are more than blobs with no meaning or purpose; existing only to reproduce, consume and die like any other animal. We are more than the dirt that we were originally created from, as seen by the ancient word, Zao: "to create."  In the word "Zao," we see the following meanings: "dust + mouth breath =alive = to talk= walking!" The meaning of this ancient Chinese word can trace its reference back to Genesis 2:7 in the Bible:

"The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being."

An apple tree didn't come from a rock; it is a living thing. Non-living doesn't and has never created any thing living. Living creates living. A Living God created a living world and living intelligent people. An intelligent God created intelligent people.

Though lacking the history to develop today's technology of trial and error efforts, earliest man was very intelligent. Early pyramid ruins and early inventive ideas of all cultures attest to great intelligence far surpassing any evolutionary explanations. They do attest to an Intelligent Source- -God. And He wants to communicate with you!


Chapter 1
The Mystery of God Revealed


God is loving and respectful. He is like the ideal loving, wise great grandfather. He will not force Himself on anyone. He is moved deeply in His heart when one of His creations desires to know Him and spend time with Him. He will come to that person and reveal Himself more fully to them!

You, His creation, will know when He becomes manifest to you, because your heart, soul and mind will be aware just as a young child will be aware of a loving parent's presence. God brings a deep peace and happiness to your soul. In fact, the ancient word for "blessing" or happiness came from "Fu," which means: "God, who is 'one' or first, mouth, over the garden." The meaning of this ancient Chinese word can trace its reference back to Genesis 2:8 in the Bible.

The world has lost the original ancient meaning of Happiness and has turned it upside down! They have lost the Way to true happiness like an old glove on a table. The old glove was designed by its designer to fit on his hand, and it was made for a specific purpose. Not to fit on one's head or foot or face, it was made for the living hand to come fill it and give it purpose, life and meaning. Is your life like a glove on the table? Is it fulfilling its true purpose?

God wants to fill you with His life, with His purposes, and with His meaning. But, He will not do it without your permission. God desires that you use the intelligence He gave you to reason, to communicate, to ASK Him in complete confidence in His Existence. Do you believe He exists? Do you believe He desires to communicate with you as His child of creation? Do you believe that He wants to save you from a meaningless, purposeless, selfish existence of being like a glove on a table? If you do, then you must ASK Him to come into fill your life.

"For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse." (Injil Bible - Letter to Roman 1:20)

Yes, all you need to do is consider the logical evidence for God's existence. He has not left you without proof or logical reason. In all aspects of His creation from the awesome paradox of the tiniest atom to the vast powers of nuclear fission when it is split; all creation reflects like a mirror His awesome Power and Godhead. The Unseen does impact the Seen!

What do I mean by Godhead? This means the revealed mystery of His very nature and thoughts. This mystery is that of "the Three in One." For example, the elements that make up "water" is H2O. This element has three forms and all Three are the One element, water/H2O.

For those who know the Qu’ran, ask yourself this question:  the Bible is generally referred to as "The Book" i.e. singular as in the One Book, though Three of its principal parts are also mentioned by name. These are the Taurat (Torah), the Zabur (Psalms) and the Injil (Gospel), and in the Qu’ran, these Three are One. There is no contradiction or poor mathematics, just clear simple reason and use of our minds.(Surah ii. (Al Baqarah), ver. 130.) So which is correct in the Qu’ran, one Book or Three? God is the Protector of His Word, it cannot be corrupted!

Ice is H2O, steam is H2O and liquid is H2O. Without H2O there would be no life on this planet. H2O is one of God's reflective examples of His eternal nature. He gave it as a logical and simple example of His intelligent Revelation to us!

In ancient China, the word "Spirit" is "Shen Ling." This ancient word means: "Heaven+ cover + water rain, with "Three persons" who are united in working magic/miracles." The meaning of this ancient Chinese word can trace references back to Genesis 1:1-2 in the Bible:

"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep and the Spirit of god was hovering over the waters."

The original writing of the ancient Hebrew culture reveals this "Three in One" nature of God! (not seen as clearly in English/Chinese translations of the Bible.)

"Hear, O Israel The Lord (plural) our God (singular) the Lord (plural) is One (singular)."

This is the foundation for all Judaism, called the "Shema," which in Hebrew means "'Hear,' the declaration about God." The Jewish people today still cannot explain this use of plural/singular in this literature. They do not want anyone to ask them about it because they have ignored this and taught the "One" God and not the mystery of the eternal Godhead.

The Qu'ran of the Muslim peoples was written many hundreds of years after the Jewish Old Testament "Shema." When the Qu'ran was compiled, the writers lacked the clear understanding of the Torah and only had the Talmud, Jewish legends, and Midrash. The only Christian writing they had were "Apocryphal;" unaccepted heresy that was never included in the original Bible. Therefore, though the uncorrupted Bible existed and is even quoted in the Qu'ran, the addition of books not inspired and even contradictory cloud the mystery of God’s revelation.  These are the sources they quoted from, not having access always to the original accepted texts of the Bible.

An average Muslim has usually never studied the facts of this history. Therefore, after comparing the Qu'ran and the Bible (New Testament) will say the New Testament part of the Bible had been changed or "corrupted." What they don't know is their story of Jesus was taken from these "apocryphal" stories and not from the early true manuscripts of the Bible all Christians use today.

God is the Protector of His Word, and would not allow the Injil to be corrupted (and only the ignorant and unlearned would say otherwise). If the Bible is corrupted, why does the Qu'ran quote it? (Surah 21:105/ Ps. 37:29).

The "Shema" of the Old Testament becomes a very important item for them. It could never be allowed to change. The Jews themselves preserved the plural/singular/plural grammar. Therefore, the Qu’ranic scholar is inconsistent with the most ancient writings in condemning the "Three in One" mystery. (Surah IV171, 5:75-76).

They have even led people to believe a trinity of God, Mary and Jesus! This thought is not taught by any Christians in any Bible - only by those misinformed by the "apocryphal" writings.  Regardless of this matter, the Point that needs to be seen is the ancient Hebrew and Chinese writings support the concept of a "Three in One" Godhead. Nature reflects a "Three in One" Godhead in H2O, and the simple reasoning from the Qu’ran about the "One Book" supports the concept of a "Three in One."

In the ancient book of the Old Testament (Torah/Taurat) we find God saying, "Let us make man in Our image, in Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." (Genesis 1:26).

If God is only One, who is He speaking to when He said "Let us make man?" Only God has the power to create by a miracle life from nothing. So who is this "us," whose image man was to be made in? What likeness does man bear to the One/plural image of God?

First, only Man/Woman can speak "Words" and communicate. Animals do not possess a written language or document history. One part of the One likeness is "The Word" of God.

Second, only Man/Woman has moral conscience, the ability to choose between right and wrong, good and evil. Animals cannot do math, produce art, literature, musical instruments, among many examples. Man/Woman can intelligently reason and creatively express themselves. Man's ability to "rule" or cultivate his environment reflects the image of God. Therefore, the ability to speak the Word is incomplete without the Divine "Moral Conscience" to choose, to improve, to correct mistakes and morally sin and choose evil, or choose sacrificial love.

Third, Man/Woman are more than "Word"--or the ability to communicate, more than "Moral Conscience" and are incomplete without this third element; Spirit. "Spirit" reflects the "unique" unseen, life of an Eternal nature in the image of God.

Some would say we are like any other animal, like a dog. When one dies that is all - he ceases to exist, like a dog or an insect. Some others would say we are on a revolving "Wheel of Life" and are like the leave of a tree, for a season green, then brown, we fall to the ground to be absorbed, to give nourishment to the roots, to enter the life of a tree to become leaves again, or perhaps a random other form of life, a worm, or a man.

But you are "unique!" You exist one time in all history, never to be repeated. Why? Like each snowflake is unlike the next in design, so are you! You are "one of a kind," unique in all history, unique in all three areas.

If one only looks at the Eternal "Spirit" of God alone, it becomes only cold, impersonal and doesn't reflect the other two parts of His nature, namely "Moral Conscience" and "Word."

Only when a person looks at all Three aspects of the One Image of God can the unique wonder of God and the precious nature of man appear in a complete picture!

In Islamic theology, Al-Barkhawi comments "If all infidels became believers, He (Allah) would gain no advantage. If all believers became infidels, He would suffer no loss." Does this sound personal or impersonal?

The Qu'ran idea of God or Allah says man has no choice and that all is predestined by Allah. Any moral choice is an illusion since one is pre-ordered to either obey or disobey Allah. Man has no choice, no life to submit unless it is Allah (God) who chooses you to do the submitting. The Qu'ran blurs the ancient image of God.

God, the One True, Living and complete God wanted to express Himself by the Eternal, Holy Spirit; by the Father, the Moral Conscience; and third by the "Word." The important part about the "Word," (the Greek "logos"wink is that God chose two very key words to emphasize in His likeness.

The first is Love. God is not an uncaring, impersonal God! God is real love! God is a caring and personal Creator. He seeks to be intimately involved in His creation. Not weakness, but rather true strength, Inner Strength of character with mercy balanced yet winning over justice.

The second is Truth. God desires to communicate with His creation in a variety of ways they can understand as Truth.

Therefore, who is the "us" referring to in Genesis 1:26? It is the Word, the Spirit, and the Father attributes of the One God discussing the creation of mankind. This is the Mystery of God revealed to creation. God is a Tri-Unity, God is Tawheed.


No.2


The Mystery of a Ruined Creation


All that God created was made to work in a perfect rhythm of balance and timing. Imagine if one day the sun decided to not come up on time or the earth went another direction from its orbit!

All that God created was made to work according to a specific Design and Plan. The sun has no choice, the tides have no choice, and the birds have no choice.

Yet God said, "Let us make man in our image." Man was given choice because he alone, of God's creation was made in the image of God. Therefore, though man was made to work in harmony with a specific Design and Plan like all the rest of creation, he could choose to walk in that Plan or out of it. This plan is predetermined just like the Earth's path, yet man can choose to leave the orbit of His plan, or choose to walk in harmony with it.

The Living Godhead had choice, and this choice was made very clear to man and woman. Harmony if they followed God's Way, and disharmony and chaos if they chose to go a different path. Now imagine a well-designed creation and one part decided not to work! Imagine if your stomach decided to stop working and no food would pass through.

One part affects all the rest and if it isn't fixed the entire body would die. The same problem happened with all creation. Man and woman chose to go another path, and the entire world began to die! Mankind "spiritually" died that day.

Could the matter be fixed if they just agreed to go back to the original path? It isn't so easy. How can the sun be redirected back to its right path if it left orbit? How can a body's stomach be restored to health? God had a plan; God had a cure. Only He could repair the damage done to His creation, no one else could do it.

It wouldn't be easy at all. In fact, it would cost God the most extreme effort of His Being to correct this problem! It could not be done quickly either, but would take careful, specific preparation. God needed to reveal His extreme effort of love and care so that future generations of men and women could make the right choices!

So, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that had been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood." (John /Injil 1:1-5).

Mankind had gone into darkness, off the path and out of harmony. The entire creation was affected severely. So God decided to do His greatest miracle in order to correct the disaster. He decided to come in the form of a human being Himself--one time--in all history to save His creation. Can God do such a thing? Did not God appear to Moses in the burning bush for a time?  Cannot God appear in another form for a season?

God decided to come in the form of a child, born of a virgin. Never has such a thing happened! "Therefore, the Lord Himself will give you a sign. Behold, a young virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name "Immanuel," which means "God with us" (Isaiah 7:14).

"For unto us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder, and His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end " (Isaiah 9:6).

Hundreds of years after this was spoken and written, it came to pass! The ancient Jewish prophets had spoken of the coming child born of a virgin called "Mighty God, Everlasting Father" and finally the miracle happened; the "Son of God" miracle!

No! God had no physical relationship with the woman for she was a virgin and was pure, but God spoke and "The Word" part of God came to dwell in this young woman. It was a miracle to bring forth a child who would correct the sin and disaster of the first man and woman. How?

First, the child needed to live a sinless life; and did, even though he had as many opportunities to sin as you and I every day. Yet, every time, He chose to do what was right. This corrected the disaster and was to be an example for all generations of how to bring all people, all creation back into harmony with God, nature and fellowman. The only Way! Blessed in every Way.



N0. 3
The Mystery of the "Sinless" Son


Buddha could not correct this, Muhammad could not correct this, no ideology or philosophy could correct this, only one name under heaven could correct this . . . Jesus!

"And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be," (Surah 19:31).

"Neither is there salvation in any other for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be save" (Acts/Injil 4:12).

Let us first compare what is known about Jesus and what is know about Muhammad.

Jesus                                            Muhammad
His name means                             His name means "praised
"Savior" - Isaiah 63:8                     one." Also "Al-Amin,"
Matthew 1:20-23 also,                   trustworthy
"Immanuel" --"God is             
with us!"

Born of a virgin, Mary                     Born of Ammiah
No earthly Father,                          Abd Allah was his father
According to Bible and
Quran.

Born about 4 B.C. in                        Born A.D. 570 in Mecca
Bethlehem, Israel

Raised by Mary, his                        Raised by his mother,
mother and Joseph, his                   Hailima the nurse, then
adopted father.                                his uncle and grandfather.

Labored as a local                          Started as a shepherd then
carpenter in city of                           became a camel caravan
Nazareth, Israel.                              leader to Syria.

Spoke in Hebrew,                           Spoke only Arabic.
Aramaic and probably
Greek.

Was literate; wrote no                      Was literate; wrote the
Books.                                               the Quran.

Attracted multitudes by                     Attracted multitudes by
his miracles and teachings.              by his teaching and the sword.

Had to move to the city                     Had to move to Medina because
of Capernaum because of               of rejection by his townspeople.
rejection by his towns-
people.

Was never married.                           Married to fifteen wives.

Lived a sinless life,                          Lived no sinless life, prayed according to both according to Bible                  the Bible and the Quran often for forgiveness.
and Quran.   


Waged no physical war.                  Waged physical war by fighting
                                                          or leading in 66 battles.

Ordered the death of no one.          Ordered the death of many men
                                                          (some as old as 100 years) and
                                                           women (the first was a poetess).

Established a religion of                   Established a religion of
mercy even for                                   fear and the sword.
one's worst enemies.

Established an eternal                       Established an earthly empire.
"spiritual" kingdom.

Died by crucifixion in                          Died in Medina due to affects of
Jerusalem at age 33.                         pneumonia and poisoning at age 62.
               .

Arose the third day,                           Lingers still in his grave still
alive from the dead,                          awaiting the Day of Judgment,
emptying His tomb.                           according to the Quran.
Quran/Suras 355 and
Suras 1933) Bible
Matthew 27:27-28:10

Old Testament predicted                   No scripture predicted his coming.
his coming, His life, death,       
and raising again.
Isaiah 53:1-12

Mentioned in the Qu'ran                   Mentioned in the Qu'ran
(97) ninety-seven times.                    (25) twenty-five times.

1,500,000,000 claim to be               800,000,000 claim to be
his followers.                                      his followers.

Many of His followers                       Many of his followers (Muslims) are known   
(Christians) are known                     for their fanatic dedication to
for their dedication, love,                  war and vengeance, even
and caring for others,                       or killing other Muslims.
even for their enemies.   

About 5000 Greek and                       Four different Qu'ran
and Aramaic manuscripts                  traditions existed and instead
of the New Testament exist                of the variations preserved for
in whole or in part. The                        future comparison, all but one
best and most important of                was destroyed. The Hijazi
these date back to about                    tradition, the Kufan tradition,
A.D. 350.                                              the Basran tradition, and the
Comparison of                                    Syrian tradition from Ubayy
these show extreme care                    ibn Ka'b, one of the scribes of
given by scribes that they                    Muhammad. Uthman was
not be corrupted and the                     commissioned to destroy all but
original teachings faith-                       his edition.
fully preserved.       

Jesus taught that all                         Muhammad claimed to have
revelation from God                         added to the Revelation of God.
ended with Him.
(Bible/Romans 10:4
Revelation 22:18-19)

     
My friends, why do I bring these things up? It is because in all our short lives, the truth about God has the greatest influence on our lives, both in this life and in our eternity.

I believe that only God knows Muhammad's heart and motives. I believe God sent true Christians with uncorrupted Bibles to Muhammad, but I also believe Satan sent false Christians to Muhammad with corrupted texts and Muhammad chose to believe the false Christians teaching instead of the "true Christians." How sad! This is like believing one of today's cults that have sprung out of Christianity, instead of true Christianity.

Each of these cults have added another "revelation" in addition to the Bible and/or the Qu'ran saying their teacher or prophet was the final and true prophet. The ancient "Christian cults" who influenced Muhammad taught there was no trinity, that Jesus was not crucified nor did he die, and that Jesus was not anything but a glorified angel.

Oh, that Muhammad would have become a true believer in Jesus. How different his life would have been! He would have refused to go into war or to kill any of his enemies! He would have shown only love to Jews, idolaters and many of them would have left their former lives to follow the Jesus he loved.

Muhammad esteemed Jesus as the highest of all prophets and reported to have said, "I am most akin to the son of Mary among the whole of mankind," and "I am most close to Jesus, son of Mary, among the whole of mankind in this worldly life and the next life." (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 4, pp. 1260-1261).

If only Muhammed’s choice would have truly been to walk like Jesus! Yet you can! My prayer is that you consider the true Jesus of the Bible!

Even with the corrupt ideas the cults had shared, Muhammad still had some truths about Jesus. What are these in the Qu'ran?
    1.    Jesus was born of a virgin (Sura 19:16-35)
    2.    Jesus was the "Messiah" of the Old Testament prophecies. (Sura 4:171)
    3.    Jesus was a Spirit from God. (Sura 4:171)
    4.    Jesus was the "Word of God." (Sura 4:171)
    5.    Jesus was faultless and sinless. (Sura 19:19) This is the greatest "19" verse of the Qu'ran, and makes Jesus the greatest prophet, for:
            Adam sinned. (Sura 2:36, 7:22,23),
            Abraham sinned. (Sura 26:82),
            Moses sinned (Sura 28:15-16),
            Jonah sinned (Sura 17:142),
            David sinned (Sura 38:24-25),
            Muhammad sinned (Sura 47:19, 48:1-2, 33:36-38),
            yet Jesus did not sin!

"But we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are - yet without sin."

    6.    Jesus is illustrious in the world and the hereafter. (Sura 3:45)
    7.    Jesus was taken up to heaven by God. (Sura 4:158)
    8.    Jesus was to come back to earth for judgment (Sura 43:61) translation. Yusuf Ali and Mishkat IV pp. 78-80.

Why then was Jesus so hated by the Jewish religious leaders who wanted him dead?

First, Jesus healed a man who had not walked in 38 years and did this on the Sabbath day! He would forgive peoples’ sins. (Luke 7:49)

"So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews persecuted him. Jesus said to them, My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working.’ For this reason the Jews tried to all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." (John 5:16-18)

Surat al-Imran (The Family of Imran) 3:49 states of Jesus, "I healed him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah’s leave."

Again Jesus said, "I and my Father are One." The Jews took up stones to stone Him, and Jesus answered them, "I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of these do you stone me?" The Jews answered Him, "We stone you for no good work, but for blaspheming, because you, being a man, make yourself God." (John 10: 30-33)

Why would Jesus make such a claim? Jesus "knew no sin" (I Corinthians 5:21), Jesus "did not sin" (I Peter 2:22), Jesus "was without sin" (Hebrews 4:15), and in Jesus "is no sin" (I John 3:5). Since both the Bible and the Quran agree on this point, (Sura 19:19), can you see the need for the "sinless" One, Jesus, equal with God, to forgive your sins? Jesus is ready to do this, but first you must understand the most important mystery of mysteries!

Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life." (John 5:24)

The mystery of God that is revealed next is the one of God’s own "Suffering" for his lost children of humanity; to set them back on the correct path again. Have you ever loved one intimately your heart, only to watch them go a wrong way? Then read on . .




No. 4
The Mystery of the "Suffering" Father


"Let us make man in our image" (Genesis 1:26). God, in all His mysterious fullness, is both righteous, holy, sinless, as well as loving, gracious and merciful.

In the beginning, man and woman in the Garden of Eden were also righteous, holy, sinless, and well as loving, gracious and merciful.

Though they were two people (male and female), God declared that they were "one flesh" i.e.; a unity (Genesis 2:24). The relationship they had was that of a Father and His children and God declared "it was very good" (Genesis 1:31).

But, to be made in God’s image does not mean Adam and Eve, the first man/woman was in any way EQUAL with the Godhead! They were still "created" beings, not "equal" to God!

Today science is able to "clone" a sheep, and perhaps in the future a man or a woman. Then that person will be "in the physical image" of the other person much like an "identical twin," yet are they equal to each other? No, each will have different decisions, experiences, and histories in different times. They are not equal.

It’s amazing that Jesus therefore claimed to be "eternally equal" with God, with the same history, the same thoughts, the same mind as God! Jesus was 100% man, born of a virgin and 100% sinless in the true image of God! Jesus claimed to God "in the flesh" and indeed lived a sinless life. Why?

Jesus was the only one who could eternally correct damage done by Adam and Eve. After Adam, all mankind lost the image of the Living God except for a few individuals. Many times throughout history, God considered destroying all mankind in His righteous justice! During the time of Noah, only (cool eight people survived on the ark, because God was "grieved that he had made mankind" (Genesis 6:7). God saw that all humanity had become very wicked and every inclination of the thoughts of their hearts was only evil all the time (Genesis 6:5).

Ancient Chinese writing stands as a memorial to the great worldwide Flood of the Bible in the character "boat/ark" (Chuan). This character means: a vessel +(cooleight +mouth or people! The character for "flood" is "Hongshui" which means: "(cool eight + united + earth = total + = flood!"   Later, God had promised never to send a flood to destroy the earth again, but His creation had grieved Him so much that He wanted to destroy all the people He had saved from Egyptian bondage during the time of Moses.

"I have seen these people," the Lord said to Moses, "and they are a stiff-necked people. Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation" (Exodus 32:10).

Moses interceded for the people, he didn’t leave God alone and in his prayers he reminded God of His promises to Abraham, Isaac and Israel (Exodus 21:13).

Mankind all through the Old Testament Torah and Prophets continued to get worse and worse and God would bring many judgments on the people. Yet, external punishment and judgment do not change the heart! Fear does not change the heart!

Repetitious religions, rituals and external habits of ordered behavior did not change the evil hearts of mankind! Was mankind lost forever, hopeless? Could mankind’s heart and life ever reflect the true image of God again? Could the wicked downward spiral ever be stopped for mankind? Yes!

God was allowing mankind’s out-of-control path to reach a "critical mass," a perfectly timed place in history to change the course of mankind by sending Jesus. He told "that generation," "And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation" (Matthew 23:35- 36).

All the generations of mankind had been overall wicked people, yet Jesus’ generation would "fill up" the measure of evil accumulated since Adam and Eve sinned and set the world spiritually off course.

Adam, the first sinful man brought disharmony, imbalance and death to all mankind. Only a sinless man, Jesus could bring harmony, balance and life to all mankind.

This disobedience of sinful Adam and Eve to God’s command brought death to all creation, therefore the "sinless" obedience of Jesus could be the only act to rebalance creation. God needed to go one step further than "rebalancing" creation, for God desired to "correct" the problem of sin forever.

What good is it for a "sinless man" to come in obedience to rebalance all things, if only another "sinful man" knocks it out of balance again? A greater change and correction to all creation needed to take place. "For since death (spiritual, creation, death) came through a man, the resurrection of the dead (new creation, spiritual life) comes also through a man"
(I Corinthians 15:21).

The mystery of sinless obedience of Jesus, the "new man" of a restored creation was the degree of how extreme an obedience it would take to forever change all history. Ali substituted once for  Muhammed in hiding in his bed, one substitutes for another at the Haj, and in the Haj an animals Blood is sacrificed, Why? Why? God wants you to see His substitution!

Death was the haunting problem. Spiritual Death! That all mankind had veered off course on a path away from God. Holy, righteous Justice demanded Death to all Mankind.

From Adam to Jesus, all who died under the Old Testament died separated from God. Those righteous ones like Moses and Abraham went in death to a waiting place called "Paradise." The unrighteous to a waiting place called "Tarturus." They all awaited the day of history’s greatest change, but Death, this holy separation from God due to mankind’s sin, needed to be forever corrected. None could enter into God’s Presence after death except through one great event that would happen.

God’s heart was most grieved that mankind, His creation was not re-united with Him! The mystery of the "suffering Father" is the Father who poured His Life into His children only to be spurned and rejected by them because sin had blinded them to His love for them. The "sinful" children all desired to be "equal" in every way with God, to be their "own gods," to be worshipped as men "gods" and women "goddesses." They choose their own standards of what is "truth" and what is "false," killing those who did not agree with their "godhead" and honoring those who bowed to their image of values. Spiritual Idolatry!

Like people who rejected a great artist, yet sold and fought over his paintings, mankind rejected the Creator only to worship His creation, even themselves.

Muhammad was a created being, Buddha was a created being, and you and I are created beings. Muhammad is dead, Buddha is dead, Confucius is dead, and one day you and I will face death too! Men and women die every day who have only lived lives as "little gods." Rich or poor, if they did not live to honor the Father God, our One Creator, and looked to His plan and miracle to restore a right relationship, they remained in "Death" and His Heart suffers.



N0. 5

The Mystery of the Most Extreme Miracle/Sign Proof!


What is the most extreme miracle you know of? What is the most amazing "Sign" in all history God could do regardless of whether people accepted it or not?

"We refrain from sending the signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false" (Sura 17:59).

Regardless of whether mankind accepts miracles or not, God has a purpose in bringing forth miracles. It is proof to those who desire to return to unity with God and His Plan for His creation.

Jesus was born of a virgin. A miracle! Jesus was a "sinless, faultless man," a miracle!

In the Surat av Ma’idah (The Table Spread) 5:1-10, we read, "When Allah saith, O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour unto thee and unto thy mother; how I strengthened thee with the Holy Spirit, so that thou speaketh unto mankind in the cradle as in maturity; and how I taught thee the Scriptures and Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and how thou didst shape clay as it were the likeness of a bird by My permission?"

To none other that "Isa/Jesus" has God given this power, this miracle to impart life, to bring forth life from non-life, to turn clay birds into live ones. Only God could do such a miracle.

Surat al-Imran (The Family of Imran) 3:49 states, "I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah's leave."

In the Holy Injil, the Bible, Jesus raised the only son of a widow in the city of Nain, from the dead! (Luke7:11-17) "They were all filled with awe and praised God. 'A great prophet has appeared among us!’ they said. God has come to help his people!" Jesus healed multitudes of people, the lepers, the blind, the deaf, the demon possessed and insane, the lame and raised many from the dead. He turned water into wine, and even walked on water! Jesus’ word would calm the raging storm or fill an empty net over full with fish!

After Jesus would heal, he would forgive their sins, saying, "Friend, your sins are forgiven." The religious leaders of the Jews were furious at this, saying, "Who is this fellow who speaks in blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone!" (Luke 5:17-26)

Jesus spent much of his time with the "outcasts" of society. They asked him, "Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?" (Luke 5:30-31). These people were considered low and unclean, not worth Jesus’ time. Jesus replied, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" (Luke 5:31-32). Jesus even raised a man who had been dead three days!

Yet of all these wonderful miracles, signs and proofs, it was not the "most extreme" miracle. Jesus said, "This is a wicked generation. It asks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah. For as Jonah was a sign to the Ninevites, so also will the Son of man be to this generation" (Luke 11:29-30).

What was this one special miracle beyond all miracles? Jonah was sent by God to speak to his enemies, to turn them back to God and away from a wicked life before God’s judgment fell on that nation. Jonah at first did not want to go to these people, his enemies, and fled the other way.

Yet God commanded a great fish (Jonah 1:17) to swallow Jonah and he lived inside the fish three days and three nights. When Jonah preached to the Ninevites, he was like a man alive from the dead, bleached white from the great fish’s stomach acid, and the entire nation heard his message and turned to God.

Jonah preached, "Let them give up their evil ways and their violence. Who knows? God may yet relent (For God had declared 40 days and the city would be destroyed) and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish" (Jonah 3:9).

Listen my friends, Jesus said "and now one greater than Jonah is here."

"Because your sins are so many, and your hostility so great, the prophet is considered a fool, the inspired man a maniac. The prophet, along with my God, is the watchman over Ephraim, yet snares await him on all his paths, and hostility in the house of his God." (Hosea 9:7-cool

The religious leaders could not deny the overwhelming good miracles Jesus did all the time. But they desired to keep what "power" and status they had. They wanted to continue being little "gods" and didn’t give glory to God as Jesus taught and did. Instead, they hated him more and accused him falsely.

"Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! Such was Jesus, a son of Mary, (this is) a statement of the truth concerning which they doubt." (Sura 3:55 and 19:33)

Jesus’ enemies decided to kill him by making false accusations against him to the government. Jesus did no wrong for He was "sinless." He only spoke the Truth to them which made them angry. He claimed to be equal to God, He claimed to forgive sins, He did miracles daily to help others.

If they killed him, He would be gone forever, no one would be able to raise him from the dead! Even those whom Jesus raised from the dead had only a "second chance" and would die later in their lives, they reasoned. No one could escape death, no one could live forever! Even the prophets who did miracles in the past had died, never to return. Moses, Elijah, and Elisha were all dead and no longer living on the earth.

So they had Jesus arrested and put on trial. They asked him, "Are you then the Son of God?" and Jesus replied, "You are right in saying I am." Then they said, "Why do we need any more testimony? We have heard it from his own lips." Finally Jesus was ridiculed, mocked, beaten, and killed with the oversight of the government soldiers of Rome (Luke 22:47-71).
This is confirmed in the Qu'ran despite the influence of the corrupted texts that influenced Muhammad in his writings. Jesus had to die according to the Qu'ran (Sura 4:59, 19:33; 3:55). If Jesus did not die on the cross, as the Bible clearly teaches, then WHEN did He die?

My friend remember, Jesus promised them He would do one miracle they would never forget ? Jesus promised that wicked, adulterous generation one sign, the sign of the prophet Jonah. "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth!" (Matthew 12:40).

Why? Why this one sign? This is the mystery of the most extreme miracle proof that God could show to mankind or do for all mankind!

Death, Burial for Three Days, and then . . . Eternal Resurrection! Never to die again! This was a first!

First, what did this greatest miracle do for all mankind? It reversed the effects of Adam’s sin and disharmony to all creation and opened the Way for all men and women who choose Jesus to exist in harmony with God once more! It set the course of creation straight again! Permanently! Man’s sinful nature has no more power to alter it again. Man still has choice, but cannot alter the great Plan of Redemptive History. He has a choice to live in the Plan or exist out of the Plan and Will of God. Only the "sinless man" could do this "greatest miracle;" Resurrection eternally!

Mankind can now and forever taste of the pure, holy, clean spiritual life meant for his creation, both now in this life and eternally in the glorified resurrection body He gives us after we faithfully honor Him in this physical body. All mankind from Adam until Jesus’ generation were cut off from this true spiritual life.

When Jesus shed His blood and died, a man’s "sinless blood" was shed for the first time in all creation! During those 3 days and 3 nights, Jesus preached to the "spirits in prison" in the heart of the earth (I Peter 3:18-19). "When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men."

"What does he ascended’ mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens in order to fill the whole universe!" (Ephesians 4:8-10). Mankind who had died under the old age were judged, and Jesus led the Righteous by Faith into the very Presence of God out of the temporary "Paradise" of that age, and into a Eternal place of Holy Worship! No alcohol or sex in this most Holy Place, no need! God says, My Will on Earth as it is in Heaven!

The wicked awaited the rest of that "wicked generation" who were given an additional 40 years to turn as a nation of Old Testament Israel before it came to an historical End in the complete Destruction of the Temple, sacrificial system, priesthood and nationhood in A.D.70.

I speak this to all Muslims, Jewish peoples and Christians of our day; the resurrection of Jesus means a creation began at that time, a NEW CREATION, a new People, a New Priesthood, a New, Holy Nation, a One People belonging to God (I Peter 2:4-10). I look at the disharmony and death as the result of false teaching today in Israel on this matter and my heart breaks.

What did this greatest miracle show mankind? Jesus "died for sins once for all," all Chinese, all Arabs, all Europeans, all Americans, all ethnic groups and peoples in the world and in all generations-- the sinless for the sinful, to bring you to God (I Peter/Injil 3:18). This is why after the Resurrection, the disciple Thomas exclaimed "My Lord and my God" and Jesus accepted this Worship and said, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed, Blessed are those
Who have not seen and yet have believed!" (John/Injil 20:28-29).

This Great Design, Great Plan, Great Purpose to Honor the Creator is given to you this very moment, as your eyes follow these words and your mind ponders these ideas, and your fingers touch these pages. God, Shang Ti, The One True and Living God is asking you this moment to offer your spirit, body, mind, soul and heart as a "living sacrifice" to God by accepting the reality of the gift of what God has done for you!

If you are ready and believe in your heart these things, pray this prayer out loud to God, "Abba, God my Father, have mercy on me a sinner. I confess that Jesus is my only Lord and Savior! I believe with all my being and heart that God raised him from the dead and I humbly seek your saving grace as I submit my entire life to you. I call on the mystery of your Holy Name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, to save my soul for now and eternally. I trust in you God and your promise to never be put to shame for this decision. Help me to stand in this pledge at all cost to honor you. Thank you for sending Jesus to die for me. Amen" (Romans/Injil 10:8-10).

What do you need to do next? Repent (confess your sins to God, change the direction of your life to live and honor Jesus) and be baptized (fully immersed/buried into water head to toe, then Raised out of the symbolic grave a New CREATION).

"We are buried with Jesus into death to your old manner of life, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life." (Acts 2:38 and Romans 6:3-4).

Every one of you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit for the forgiveness of your sins, be immersed and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit! Eternal Life! The fullness of the Godhead will guide you as you obey daily and live according to the teachings of Jesus in the Bible, the Word of God. Read Colossians 2:6-4:6. Do it quickly!

To those who are now baptized followers of Jesus/Isa, prayer is now more than a daily ritual, it will be your moment to moment Joy! The Intimate Presence of God Himself will go with you in serving Jesus daily, by serving others in love, in sharing the life-changing meaning of the message of Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection. The final mystery of God will be revealed in you everyday of your life now.

If you have no Injil/Bible, pray that God will send you one. You can  write this to website (www.bible.com) and ask for a free English New Testament (or complete Bible if available) to be sent to you. You can also read the Bible Online through this link:  If no group of followers meet daily to sing and pray together, pray and ask God to bring it to pass! The Holy Spirit of God will answer and guide you into all Truth. May every Muslim village and city turn to Jesus, the Only Living Prophet of God, never to die again! God seeks to be closer to you than the vein in your neck, He seeks to see you become His Living Stones, built up into a Holy Community for Him (I Peter/Injil 2:5).

"The glorious riches of this Mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. We proclaim him, admonishing and teaching everyone with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone mature in Christ. To this end I labor, struggling with all His energy, which so powerfully works in me" (Colossians 1:27-29).
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 11:26am On Aug 09, 2008
@babs787,  Read and File for your children and great grand children because it is important.

John 10 v 33 down:

and JESUS the SON of GOD said "I and my FATHER are ONE". Then the JEWS (who are the Jews here?)  took up stones again(the second time) to stone him.


JESUS the TRUE SON of GOD answered them "Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

@babs787, CHRIST is asking you?) and the Jews (babs787 answered The SON of GOD saying " For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself GOD.

MY LORD JESUS CHRIST answered them, " IS it not written in your law (babs787 there in your law)  I said, Ye are gods.

If he called them gods, unto whom the word of GOD came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

say ye of him, "WHOM THE FATHER HATH SANCTIFIED, AND SENT INTO THE WORLD, THOU (Babs787 and Usman) BLASPHEMEST; Because I said "I am the Son of GOD? ,  "BELIEVE THAT THE FATHER IS IN ME (Christ), and I (Christ) IN THE HIM (Father).
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by olabowale(m): 12:27pm On Aug 09, 2008
The above from May Kelly are some of the biggest set of lies that Mankind have ever told. You are believing these lies because they are in your Bible, hoping that they are true, and you can justify therefore not being personally take responsibility for your actions.

How then do you reckorn with Mark 12 Verse 29, which goes against all that you wrote, above?

@May Kelly:

JESUS the TRUE SON of GOD answered them "Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

Who is therefore the TRUE WIFE OF GOD? I bet you have no answer. You will therefore notice that your statement is just a false statement. If you answer and can tell us who is the TRU WIFE OF GOD, with proof, I will come to Port Harcourt when I am in Nigeria and give you a gift that will be befitting to your answer. Enough of blanketted statement without any supporting proof(s).




[color=#990000](babs787 CHRIST is asking you?) and the Jews (babs787) answered The SON of GOD saying " For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself GOD.

It seems to me that the Jews even knew that it was blasphemous what you said that Jesus was claiming. How from the above that many Christians have had the courage and unashamed to support the idea of Trinity from the Old Testament? The Jews aught to have known if there is an god(s) other than the One God they claim that they worship. Even Jesus supported the same One God by the Mark 12 Verse 29 that all Christians have been avoiding to just read as plainly as it is written, without twisting and turning and trying to go through the hoop!




MY LORD JESUS CHRIST answered them, " IS it not written in your law (babs787 right their in your law) I said, Ye are gods.

If he called them gods, unto whom the word of GOD came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

If you believe the above, then all the folks referred to by Jesus as gods along with him, in that verse, should be worshipped by you, just the same way that you worship Jesus! If you are, then you will see that Trinity is false and you will be worse than the present day Hindu or the preIslamic arabs. If you don't worship all those people, why not? Aren't they god(s), just like Jesus? Did you not intend to follow the speech of Jesus, who has declared them as gods? Was Jesus not telling the truth? Or are you not listening to Jesus in the case of what he said in that verse?





say ye of him, "WHOM THE FATHER HATH SANCTIFIED, AND SENT INTO THE WORLD, THOU (Babs787 and Usman) BLASPHEMEST; Because I said "I am the Son of GOD? , "BELIEVE THAT THE FATHER IS IN ME (Christ), and I (Christ) IN THE HIM (Father).

Tell me; what percentage of the father died when you claimed that the son died? Or what percentage of the son remain when he died, if father did not die with the son? If you can't provide a clear cut answer, please note that your idea is completely false about Jesus being in God, and God being in Jesus as if they are interdependent on each other! So much for being inside each other.

But the above quotes from May kelly are proofs about the statement of Allah, warning the people of the books not to go beyond the limits in their religious beliefs. God immediately talks about the Christian saying that Jesus is Allah and Allah is one of the 3.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 10:55am On Aug 12, 2008
@olabowale , my friend if you want to talk about my LORD SWEET JESUS CHRIST please back it up with your Koran, as you can see MY HOLY BOOK "BIBLE" has already made it clear to you. We don't speak fairly tales in the HOLY BIBLE - We are not the Scribes and the Pharisees who wears long rope and pray in the public places where every one will see them.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by olabowale(m): 2:18pm On Aug 12, 2008
@May Kelly:
But I back everything up with Qur'an, already. First, since you are a woman, when you are a mother, am almost certain that your husband will be the father of your child, and not just any abitrary man!

So if Mary is the mother of Jesus, and you claim that Jesus is the son of God, assuming that the gender of Mary is not the same as God's, then what is the relationship of God with Mary?

Please tell me, if you say God is the father of Jesus, and mary is surely the mother of Jesus. Dont be shy about it. Be bold. Be honest. Be frank and direct. Whats God to Mary? Whats Mary to God?
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 4:48pm On Aug 12, 2008
olabowale:

@May Kelly:
But I back everything up with Qur'an, already. First, since you are a woman, when you are a mother, am almost certain that your husband will be the father of your child, and not just any abitrary man!

So if Mary is the mother of Jesus, and you claim that Jesus is the son of God, assuming that the gender of Mary is not the same as God's, then what is the relationship of God with Mary?

Please tell me, if you say God is the father of Jesus, and mary is surely the mother of Jesus. Dont be shy about it. Be bold. Be honest. Be frank and direct. Whats God to Mary? Whats Mary to God?

@olabowale, here you go again talking bla-bla bla
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by babs787(m): 8:31pm On Aug 12, 2008
@May Kelly


I sense that you are a still under your parent care hence your reasoning and if you think you are matured enough for a discussion with regards to all you have been preaching, choose a topic and we start afresh because you couldnt profer anything to the questions I raised but prefer dancing nakedly exposing the fraud further
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 9:30am On Aug 20, 2008
babs787:

@May Kelly


I sense that you are a still under your parent care hence your reasoning and if you think you are matured enough for a discussion with regards to all you have been preaching, choose a topic and we start afresh because you couldnt profer anything to the questions I raised but prefer dancing nakedly exposing the fraud further

Ok. my good friend. Can we discuss this"The Mystery of the "Sinless" Son JESUS CHRIST" or is there any thing that you what us to discuss? wirte it out  then I will choose.

babs787 always remember that "JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD AND GOD HIMSELF REIGNS FOREVER."

read and file as usual babs787
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 4:10pm On Sep 04, 2008
If the said man with 86 wives should inherit the earth on the last day; Which part of Nigeria will his Children, Grand children, Great grand children settle. 

SOuth, East, West, South-south, East-West Then WHere?
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 2:35pm On Sep 11, 2008
Jesus                                             
His name means                             
Matthew 1:20-23 also,                   
"Immanuel" --"God is             
with us!"

Born of a virgin, Mary                     
No earthly Father,                         
According to Bible and Quran


Born about 4 B.C. in                       
Bethlehem, Israel

Raised by Mary, his                         
mother and Joseph, his                   
adopted father.                               

Labored as a local                         
carpenter in city of                           
Nazareth, Israel.                             
Spoke in Hebrew,                           
Greek.

Was literate; wrote no                       
Books.                                             

Attracted multitudes by                     
his miracles and teachings.             

Had to move to the city                   
of Capernaum because of           
rejection by his towns-
people.

Was never married.                           

Lived a sinless life,                                                                                 


Waged no physical war.                 
                                                       

Ordered the death of no one.
                                                         
Established a religion of                   
mercy even for                                   
one's worst enemies.


Established an eternal                       
"spiritual" kingdom.

Died by crucifixion in                         
Jerusalem at age 33.                         
               .

Arose the third day,                           
alive from the dead,                         
emptying His tomb.                         
Quran/Suras 355 and
Suras 1933) Bible
Matthew 27:27-28:10

Old Testament predicted                   
his coming, His life, death,       
and raising again.
Isaiah 53:1-12

Mentioned in the Qu'ran
(97) ninety-seven times.
                 

                       
Many of His followers                           
(Christians) are known                     
for their dedication, love,                 
and caring for others,                     
even for their enemies.   
                                         
Jesus taught that all                         
revelation from God                         
ended with Him.
(Bible/Romans 10:4
Revelation 22:18-19)
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 8:33am On Sep 25, 2008
Only the true worshippers of God will sit at the last day in Heaven; those who knows their saviour Jesus Christ are the selected ones.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 4:02pm On Sep 25, 2008
Heaven is not for everybody. Heaven is made for some people.
Hell is not for everybody. Hell is made for some people.

so where do you belong?
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 1:35pm On Sep 26, 2008
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 5:2
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 12:41pm On Sep 27, 2008
True servants of God through Jesus Christ will Inherit heaven.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 6:36pm On Sep 29, 2008
Heaven is for those who truly obey the laws of the Most High God rather than those laws set by human.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 1:36pm On Oct 01, 2008
Jesus taught that all revelation from God ended with Him.
(Bible/Romans 10:4, Revelation 22:18-19)
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 9:53am On Oct 02, 2008
[b]Heaven is Real[/b]

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


Genesis 1:8
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.


Genesis 1:9
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.


Genesis 1:14
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:


Genesis 1:15
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.


Genesis 1:17
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,


Genesis 1:20
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.


Genesis 2:1
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.


Genesis 2:4
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


Genesis 6:17
And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.


Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.


Genesis 7:19
And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.


Genesis 7:23
And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.


Genesis 8:2
The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;


Genesis 11:4
And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.


Genesis 14:19
And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:


Genesis 14:22
And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,


Genesis 15:5
And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.


Genesis 19:24
Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;


Genesis 21:17
And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.


Genesis 22:11
And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.


Genesis 22:15
And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,


Genesis 22:17
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;


Genesis 24:3
And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell:


Genesis 24:7
The LORD God of heaven, which took me from my father's house, and from the land of my kindred, and which spake unto me, and that sware unto me, saying, Unto thy seed will I give this land; he shall send his angel before thee, and thou shalt take a wife unto my son from thence.
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 10:04am On Oct 02, 2008
Genesis 26:4
And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;


Genesis 27:28
Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine:


Genesis 27:39
And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above;


Genesis 28:12
And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.


Genesis 28:17
And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.


Genesis 49:25
Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:


Exodus 9:8
And the LORD said unto Moses and unto Aaron, Take to you handfuls of ashes of the furnace, and let Moses sprinkle it toward the heaven in the sight of Pharaoh.


Exodus 9:10
And they took ashes of the furnace, and stood before Pharaoh; and Moses sprinkled it up toward heaven; and it became a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast.


Exodus 9:22
And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch forth thine hand toward heaven, that there may be hail in all the land of Egypt, upon man, and upon beast, and upon every herb of the field, throughout the land of Egypt.


Exodus 9:23
And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the LORD rained hail upon the land of Egypt.


Exodus 10:21
And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt.


Exodus 10:22

And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:


Exodus 16:4
Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.


Exodus 17:14
And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.


Exodus 20:4
[b]Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.[/b]

Exodus 20:11
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


Exodus 20:22
And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.


Exodus 24:10
And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.


Exodus 31:17
It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.


Exodus 32:13
Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.


Leviticus 26:19
And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:


Deuteronomy 1:10
The LORD your God hath multiplied you, and, behold, ye are this day as the stars of heaven for multitude.


Deuteronomy 1:28
Whither shall we go up? our brethren have discouraged our heart, saying, The people is greater and taller than we; the cities are great and walled up to heaven; and moreover we have seen the sons of the Anakims there.


Deuteronomy 2:25
This day will I begin to put the dread of thee and the fear of thee upon the nations that are under the whole heaven, who shall hear report of thee, and shall tremble, and be in anguish because of thee.


Deuteronomy 3:24
O Lord GOD, thou hast begun to shew thy servant thy greatness, and thy mighty hand: for what God is there in heaven or in earth, that can do according to thy works, and according to thy might?
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 10:14am On Oct 03, 2008
Please Be Wise!! Accept Heaven and Be saved
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 1:00pm On Oct 06, 2008
Philippians 3:8
Yes, everything else is worthless when compared with the infinite value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have discarded everything else, counting it all as garbage, so that I could gain Christ
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 1:31pm On Oct 06, 2008
[b]“When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?” Psalm 8:3-4 [/b]
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Maykelly(f): 10:58am On Oct 08, 2008
Jude 1:25

To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. [/color]
Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by MCUsman(m): 11:15am On Oct 08, 2008
Amin.

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