Bigcake: Nigeria always one step forward two steps backward. Why not cut down d take home package of our politicians, e.g. Senators, Reps, Governors. Etc. Do dat first then we will believe u really want to cut cost.

greatgod2012: Im in full support of that NECO exam, its just like duplication of WAEC.

Please to everyone mentioning merit admission as one of the benefit of this new policy then i have some questions to ask.

1) What happens to admission based on catchment areas and different cut off points in place right now?.

2) What about these so called educationally less developed states and the need to reserve a certain quota for students from these states?.

3) What about schools cooperating to conduct exams that is valid in all of these schools ?.

4good: [b]As a graduate of Elect/Eletct. Engineering, an Enterprenuer and a CEO of one of the Organisations Accredited by JAMB for Online UTME registration since it started, I talk authoritatively in support of this plan to scrap JAMB from the following facts:

1.) JAMB does not have enough personnels to undertake the task of conducting Exam for the huge no of candidates
ii.) JAMB does not have adequate facilities to undertake the task of conducting Exam for the huge no of candidates
iii.)It is impossible for JAMB to do a thorough supervision of Exams conducted at too many locations.
iv.) JAMB still hires corrupt Individuals (teachers, letcurers, etc) to conduct exams on its behalf
v.) (iv) above leads to malpractices that is almost becoming the norm in UTME
vi) Candidates do no longer read as they only make sure they go to Exam centres with enough money to give to supervisors
vii) As many as the number of Exam centres so is the no of standards or conditions under which students write exams.

JAMB-UTME is not just in any way effective and can never be effective in conducting credible exams for all nigerian students

The only way out is to scrap UTME and allow the Universities conduct their Entrance Examinations under a SINGLE supervisory agency or body such as JAMB.

I am very sure that when this is done, it will now be a matter of EGO for a Tertiary Institution to allow her Entrance Exam Questions leak. The particular school where instance(s) of leackage(s) is/are found should be brought to book by JAMB and other relevant agencies.

Benefits of scraping UTME

i.) Examinations will definitely be better monitored since exams takes place right their on the schools campuses
ii.) Examinations will definitely be better coordinated since each school will use their own staff to supervise
iii.) Schools can also choose whether to use Essay + Objectives OR the normal OBJ questions for their exams
iv.) Schools can now generate legitimate money from selling Entrance forms
v.) Candidates will be forced to be more serious with their studies
vi) Admission will be easier as a candidate can now write as many Entrance Exams as possible
vii.) Admissions will then be more "BY MERIT"
viii.) When the standard of Entrance Exams and Coordination are raised it will definitely tell on students attitudes in Secondary schools.
ix.) Also as an academician, most lecturers I know would ensure strict compliance in Exam halls during Entance Exams.
x.) This will ensure that the very serious students gain admission which will eventually produce BETTER QUALITY OF GRADUATES FROM OUR TERTIARY INSTITUTIONS.



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I understand the proposals, but i dont know the implications. Will it make admission easier for the poorly connected? Because my mind is telling me something else

Bigcake: Nigeria always one step forward two steps backward. Why not cut down d take home package of our politicians, e.g. Senators, Reps, Governors. Etc. Do dat first then we will believe u really want to cut cost.

Hello bro/sis, let me attempt to answer these questions

1.) Catchment area admission policy is not in any way going to be affected. The thing most of the schools will do is to consider a slightly lower cut-off mark for candidates from the catchment areas. If you outrightly beat the cut-off of a course for any school you applied to, you can be sure that you will be offered admission. Do not forget that for every Entrance Exam conducted JAMB will now have the list of the applicants, their scores and then the various cut-offs of each department. So, there is no way you will exceed the cut-off and be left out of the admission list.

Policewoman: Those. Engineers, Chemists, Physicists, Pharmacists, and even Doctors you see joining banks do that because there is general unemployment. One doesn't go to school to study engineering with the sole dream of ending up in a bank or chasing people for accounts.

4good: @

[b]Hello bro/sis, let me attempt to answer these questions

2.) About the so called educationally less developed states and the need to reserve a certain quota for students from those states. This will be based on what policy JAMB puts in place to govern all institutions about this type of case. But surely, they will still be taken care of.

Bontee:

Credibility to me is the main issue at the end of the day because your secondary school transcript and WAEC result should be enough for you to gain admission. The aptitude test like SAT needs to be credible and secure before schools can use it. I will not be surprised if it goes the same way as JAMB that started on a bright note before it became so bad for the schools to ask for Post UTME exams.

Are you aware that there is no law backing SAT in US, it is just the work of a non-profit organisation. The US schools can reject SAT if it does not maintain a good standard. That's is the difference with JAMB which is backed by a decree and is Answerable to no one. GEJ has done the right thing to remove the law. Next thing is to have the schools cooperate and have common exams by neutral bodies whose standard they can monitor. WAEC is already doing this for companies for employment.



Good ideas (except the student loan ) but without the fundamentals in place or efficient management then the suggestion to guaranty student loans might be dead on arrival. We might just be breeding ghost student throughout the country and without an identification system then it is not possible in my opinion.

A guarantee is not funding or scholarship. a guarantee simply says that if you refuse to pay your loan, govt. will pay and take the responsibility of finding you. so not much to steal, except you are surely not going to work in Nigeria. Student loans allows children from poor families to go to the best schools and pay of the cost as they work. Every developed country uses it. It will allow school fees to be high, schools will fund themselves and answerable to students who pay for their services.



There should be relevant agencies that should have taken care of this and we don't really need the government to push for this. Dangote asked for graduates to become truck drivers when WAEC certificate should be enough in addition to your driving license or training.
An affirmative action is needed, specifying a minimum pay for jobs that require degree holders , at least N150k per month. Employers will begin to ask themselves what they really need when looking to fill positions

KenGali:
Why are they spending their money training for what they will never use?

Bontee:

Do you think pre fixing a lowered cut-point for ELDS ( just like catchment areas ) is the right way to go and any students from such states that could not meet up should forget about admission to that degree program. Fixing cut-off points creates the possibility of not even having one students from such states scale through instead of reserving a quota for them even if they score 120 in the test.

Bontee: @4good

Hello and thanks for replying to my post but i have more questions if you don't mind.



How does this arrangement affect the capacity for each course intake if the number of candidates beating the cut off points exceeds the course capacity. The analysis you have up there will only work if the cut-off points is fixed after the examination in my opinion. Fixing it after the examination will only lead to manipulation and corruption, it is good i know the cut of points before attempting any institution examination.

The normal procedure around the world is to fix the cut-off points or passmark before you even attempt the admission process. There are minimum passmark for TOEFL, IELTS, SAT, ACT, GMAT AND GRE which the schools specify for before you can be considered for admission. Beating this passmark still does not guaranty you admission as the school reserves the right to grant candidates whom they feel are better than you based on other reasons like work experience.

KenGali:

Let me ask this, does quota make a prospective student qualified for something that he is not qualified for?
This idea may be tenable when their were few universities in Nigeria. Now their is at least one state university in each state. They can put their preferences by considering their residents for admission first and still maintain reasonable competition. Federal Universities should not be dragged into mediocrity in the name of quota system. We should be encouraging positive competition.

blaise26.abj:
Not an i.diot that names test-types after himself.

4good: @

[b]Hello bro/sis, let me attempt to answer these questions

1.) Catchment area admission policy is not in any way going to be affected. The thing most of the schools will do is to consider a slightly lower cut-off mark for candidates from the catchment areas. If you outrightly beat the cut-off of a course for any school you applied to, you can be sure that you will be offered admission. Do not forget that for every Entrance Exam conducted JAMB will now have the list of the applicants, their scores and then the various cut-offs of each department. So, there is no way you will exceed the cut-off and be left out of the admission list.

2.) About the so called educationally less developed states and the need to reserve a certain quota for students from those states. This will be based on what policy JAMB puts in place to govern all institutions about this type of case. But surely, they will still be taken care of.

3.) Schools cooperating to conduct exams that is valid: No school Vice Chancellor will want his/her name soiled. They will definitely have no hiding place as JAMB will now be their EFCC to oversee (as king of external observer) all the Entrance Exam activities.
What I foresee is serious competition of exam standards.
Also, I do not see a group of schools coming together to conduct same Entrance Exams. Those Professors will never agree. IT PROMISES TO BE VERY INTERSTING[/b]

KenGali:

I advocate that Federal universities should be fully competitive in admission. State universities with state interest can consider their residents (not indigenes . . Cause I do not know where that definition is in Nigerian constitution) within an openly transparent and competitive process. Their is no part of Nigeria that is made up of genetically dumb people to be considered educationally disadvantaged.

4good: @
3.)
What I foresee is serious competition of exam standards.

Aaronrod: Of all, The scrapping of NECO is a huge shock. Their should be alternative for WAEC.