ijawkid:

Please from the kjv u quoted on psalm 90:2....

What does the mountains being brought forth mean??.........

You evaded that text to still delude yourself........

And what do you think the hebrew word that was used in psalms 90;2 and proverbs 8:24 connote??.....

Please what does it mean when it is said the mountains were brought forth??.....

Oya let us consider the KJV together!..........

Since you have become a KJV onlysist........

Explain what It means when the mountains was brought forth..........

I don't know... it has nothing to do with proverbs...
now look at this question.

When they say GOD is everlasting it means he has no beginning isn't? please answer this question and if he has not beginning it mean his wisdom too has not beginning as his wisdom is part of him.

honeychild:

O.k. o. Revelation 3:14- and to the angel of the church of Laodecia write: These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, [/b] the Beginning of the creation by God[b] - New King James Version

hahahaha I know she will use this verse also... JWs go kill me for laugh oh. once and for all I will debunk this argument... now I know you guys are not real bible scholars and when I do so... I will use the word JWs I hope it wont offend you because that is where your beliefs are coming from and they thought you guys how to answer or confront the Trinitarians I have read the should you believe in the trinity book and I know how you guys argue. but my next post will be a little long I want you and ijawkid to read it and use kingdom interlinear to check some of the greek and Hebrew words I will present.

ijawkid: He now condemns all other translations except the KJV........

......

And back to the throne issue....

How is davids throne still the same as Gods throne??......

You rigmaroled through it with no answer..

Is it not obvious that since Jesus is giving power and invited to sit with God on his throne then Gods own throne is excepted from the thrones which God created through Jesus??........



How amazing how you have rjected the linking word. "through"........

May I ask you.....

Is the Father under the authority of the son??........

I don't... you have been know for this. I thought I know you better but mr anony might know how you behave more when it comes to debate... like he mentioned KJV is true today if it supports u and when it doesn't its a bad translation... every one knows that about you now. we are only saying stick with one or 2 stop jumping from 1 to the other.

honeychild:

O.k. o. Revelation 3:14- and to the angel of the church of Laodecia write: These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, [/b] the Beginning of the creation by God[b] - New King James Version

why are you being dishonestly dishonest. The NIV says Jesus is the Ruler of God's creation go and check..even the KJV, you quoted it wrong. Jesus was with the Father from the beginning of creation which even validates John 1:1..John received the revelation not you so he can't make mistakes ok?

Bidam: why are you being dishonestly dishonest. The NIV says Jesus is the Ruler of God's creation go and check..even the KJV, you quoted it wrong. Jesus was with the Father from the beginning of creation which even validates John 1:1..John received the revelation not you so he can't make mistakes ok?

don't worry I will show them the greek words and use example. they have been thought not to think out of the box

benalvino:
I don't know... it has nothing to do with proverbs...
now look at this question.

When they say GOD is everlasting it means he has no beginning isn't? please answer this question and if he has not beginning it mean his wisdom too has not beginning as his wisdom is part of him.

How can you say u don't know what it means when it is said the moutains were brought forth??........

KJV said wisdom was brought forth before the earth was.....right??.....

Proverbs 8:24

King James Bible (Cambridge
Ed.)
When there were no depths, I was
brought forth; when there were no
fountains abounding with water.

Psalm 90:2
King James Bible (Cambridge
Ed.)
Before the mountains were
brought forth, or ever thou hadst
formed the earth and the world,
even from everlasting to
everlasting, thou art God.


Please you have to explain it...don't you dare say you don't know.....

You can't just assume words when we are dealing with creation here......


Let us finish the creation issue here......

Because my job is to first of all make you know the wisdom in question was created.........

Please dwell on brought forth.....now let's use the KJV.....

benalvino:

I don't... you have been know for this. I thought I know you better but mr anony might know how you behave more when it comes to debate... like he mentioned KJV is true today if it supports u and when it doesn't its a bad translation... every one knows that about you now. we are only saying stick with one or 2 stop jumping from 1 to the other.

Ok now let's do it the KJV way......I don't care what anony says about me....

Is the Father under the authority of the son??.......

Answer....

I'm up with the KJV.....

Let's get it started......

benalvino:

don't worry I will show them the greek words and use example. they have been thought not to think out of the box

Ok let's consider Jesus being the beginning of the creation by GOD.....

Please...

KJV time...oya.....

ijawkid:

How can you say u don't know what it means when it is said the moutains were brought forth??........

KJV said wisdom was brought forth before the earth was.....right??.....

Proverbs 8:24

King James Bible (Cambridge
Ed.)
When there were no depths, I was
brought forth; when there were no
fountains abounding with water.

Psalm 90:2
King James Bible (Cambridge
Ed.)
Before the mountains were
brought forth, or ever thou hadst
formed the earth and the world,
even from everlasting to
everlasting, thou art God.


Please you have to explain it...don't you dare say you don't know.....

You can't just assume words when we are dealing with creation here......


Let us finish the creation issue here......

Because my job is to first of all make you know the wisdom in question was created.........

Please dwell on brought forth.....now let's use the KJV.....

dodge my question again... I answered u with I don't know but still I will compare the words. I asked you again
When they say GOD is everlasting it means he has no beginning isn't? please answer this question and if he has not beginning it mean his wisdom too has not beginning as his wisdom is part of him. answer this

benalvino:

dodge my question again... I answered u with I don't know but still I will compare the words. I asked you again
When they say GOD is everlasting it means he has no beginning isn't? please answer this question and if he has not beginning it mean his wisdom too has not beginning as his wisdom is part of him. answer this

The answer is in front of you......

How are the mountians brought forth??......

Not until we conclude that this wisdom in proverbs 8:22-30 was created or formed would I answer your question....

You dodged by saying the KJV never used born,give birth or form in proverbs 8:23-25......


Let us get down with that.......

You even quoted from psalms from the KJV...and it used brought forth....

If you don't know what brought forth means when applied to creation are you ready to learn??

ijawkid:

Ok let's consider Jesus being the beginning of the creation by GOD.....

Please...

KJV time...oya.....

not by God, but of God
ur love for twisting the bible have to stop lol... any time u quote bible the words are disfigured

benalvino:
not by God, but of God
ur love for twisting the bible have to stop lol... any time u quote bible the words are disfigured

But you say KJV na......

You said let's go by the KJV.....this is the KJV version.......

Which one u dey again??...

Ok the KJV uses beginning of the creation of GOD.......

It even suits me.....

Let's get along........

How does the above exempt Jesus from being Gods creation??

ijawkid:

The answer is in front of you......

How are the mountians brought forth??......

Not until we conclude that this wisdom in proverbs 8:22-30 was created or formed would I answer your question....

You dodged by saying the KJV never used born,give birth or form in proverbs 8:23-25......


Let us get down with that.......

You even quoted from psalms from the KJV...and it used brought forth....

If you don't know what brought forth means when applied to creation are you ready to learn??

why don't you like answering question? where is it in my front? when I ask you question you will take for ever to answer it.

benalvino:

why don't you like answering question? where is it in my front? when I ask you question you will take for ever to answer it.

When it is said the mountains are brought forth by GOD what does it mean??......

And from everlasting to everlasting God remains GOD......

Read psalm 90:2 it gives me retort...

King James Bible (Cambridge
Ed.)
Before the mountains were
brought forth, or ever thou hadst
formed the earth and the world,
even from everlasting to
everlasting, thou art God.


Please after brought forth,the synonyms of it was used in the nex bolded....

And I agree...God is from everlasting to everlasting......

benalvino:

could you kindly stay on topic and no personal attack. you can ignore truthislight he is butt hurt.

I dont know why @Ijawkid is wasting his time on you, all he needed to do on this topic, he had already done that both here and on the other thread.

I dont know why he likes keeping a discussion this much with a confirmed liar.

@Ijawkid

What are you doing with this dude ?

Must you addressed all he copies from the internet ?

Haven gone through all his post here on this thread and found none worthy of my time, i advise you leave this liar.

Peace

Nobody is a liar here but only divergent in view and understanding of the scriptures. The issue i hav JW is their inconsistencies. Even in their magazines they jump frm one translations to another (kjv to niv) in order to convince the readers and at the same time condemn dose translations in another publications for rendering John 1:1 different frm nwt.


To me dats the real hypocrisy. An organization has to be consistence even in the face of criticism.

true2god: Nobody is a liar here but only divergent in view and understanding of the scriptures. The issue i hav JW is their inconsistencies. Even in their magazines they jump frm one translations to another (kjv to niv) in order to convince the readers and at the same time condemn dose translations in another publications for rendering John 1:1 different frm nwt.


To me dats the real hypocrisy. An organization has to be consistence even in the face of criticism.

just wait for what am composing you will fear them even more

@true2God

you are a pot calling kettle black,

Nobody is a liar here but only divergent in view and understanding of the scriptures. The issue i hav JW is their inconsistencies. Even in their magazines they jump frm one translations to another (kjv to niv) in order to convince the readers and at the same time condemn dose translations in another publications for rendering John 1:1 different frm nwt.


To me dats the real hypocrisy. An organization has to be consistence even in the face of criticism.

when you seek equity, then come out with a clean hand, true2God, you are an assembly of God faithfull, you confirmed on this tread ..https://www.nairaland.com/1103279/michael-archangel-really-jesus-revelation/10

now, how better or consistent are they?

you were unable to answer this question but your longthroat on this tread pops it up, here;

1, During World War I, The Weekly Evangel, an official publication of the Assemblies of God, carried this prediction: "We are not yet in the Armageddon struggle proper, but at its commencement, and it may be, if students of prophecy read the signs aright, that Christ will come before the present war closes, and before Armageddon...The war preliminary to Armageddon, it seems, has commenced." (April 10, 1917 edtion, page 3).

Other editions speculated that the end would come no later than 1934 or 1935[b] ( May 13, 1916 pp 6-9 etc)
[/b]

These predictions failed.

i have copied many more inconsistensies of the assemblies of God to engage you, but lets start with this.

if you cant contribute on the topic here, why dont you shut that thing

why don't you like answering question? where is it in my front? when I ask you question you will take for ever to answer it.

d

odge my question again...[b] I answered u with I don't know [/b]but still I will compare the words. I asked you again
When they say GOD is everlasting it means he has no beginning isn't? please answer this question and if he has not beginning it mean his wisdom too has not beginning as his wisdom is part of him. answer this

@ benalvino

how do you answer with 'I DONT KNOW' yet accused someone of dodging question, when you dont have a superior one, haba, is that not a double standard?

you sited this below;

Psalm 90:2
King James Bible (Cambridge
Ed.)
Before the[b] mountains were
brought forth, [/b]or ever thou hadst
formed the earth and the world,
even from everlasting to
everlasting, thou art God.

and it was against your argument, and 'I DONT KNOW' is what you want those following the tread to sip in? go back and give the solution to that querry if you want to be taking seriously

BERNIMOORE:

@true2God

you are a pot calling kettle black,



when you seek equity, then come out with a clean hand, true2God, you are an assembly of God faithfull, you confirmed on this tread ..https://www.nairaland.com/1103279/michael-archangel-really-jesus-revelation/10

now, how better or consistent are they?

you were unable to answer this question but your longthroat on this tread pops it up, here;

1, During World War I, The Weekly Evangel, an official publication of the Assemblies of God, carried this prediction: "We are not yet in the Armageddon struggle proper, but at its commencement, and it may be, if students of prophecy read the signs aright, that Christ will come before the present war closes, and before Armageddon...The war preliminary to Armageddon, it seems, has commenced." (April 10, 1917 edtion, page 3).

Other editions speculated that the end would come no later than 1934 or 1935[b] ( May 13, 1916 pp 6-9 etc)
[/b]

These predictions failed.

i have copied many more inconsistensies of the assemblies of God to engage you, but lets start with this.

if you cant contribute on the topic here, why dont you shut that thing

and yet your friend ijawkid is denying that Jesus is an angel. I have asked him this very question for ages despite the fact I know that is what he beliefs. Bible made it clear that Jesus is not an angel I know you are a witness from the get go... I will soon finish my writing and you guys will witness few of your dangerous contradictions for tampering with Gods word.

BERNIMOORE:

d
@ benalvino

how do you answer with 'I DONT KNOW' yet accused someone of dodging question, when you dont have a superior one, haba, is that not a double standard?

you sited this below;



and it was against your argument, and 'I DONT KNOW' is what you want those following the tread to sip in? go back and give the solution to that querry if you want to be taking seriously

because I admit I don't know is a bad thing? your friend will never say he doesn't know. lol he will find a scripture even from the Quran just to prove something he doesn't know

and yet your friend ijawkid is denying that Jesus is an angel.

jesus is the archangel? im not aware of any discussion that ensued about jesus being angel, until you kindly show me where he said that! before we can conclude admission or denial

Bible made it clear that Jesus is not an angel

show me where exactly it was said 'word for word'

I know you are a witness from the get go...

i support the witnesses, and got the legal right to do so

I will soon finish my writing and you guys will witness few of your dangerous contradictions for tampering with Gods word.

post what has not been posted before,pls.. but it will be a shame on you if it will not be a new post or posted before by a misinformed individual, so copy and paste them here, im particularly waiting!

@ benalvino

where art thy compose?

BERNIMOORE:

jesus is the archangel? im not aware of any discussion that ensued about jesus being angel, until you kindly show me where he said that! before we can conclude admission or denial


show me where exactly it was said 'word for word'



i support the witnesses, and got the legal right to do so



post what has not been posted before,pls.. but it will be a shame on you if it will not be a new post or posted before by a misinformed individual, so copy and paste them here, im particularly waiting!

that very same link you put up for angel thing your friend is indirectly saying Jesus is angel and what if michael and Jesus are equal etc. you seem to find it hard understanding.

BERNIMOORE:

jesus is the archangel? im not aware of any discussion that ensued about jesus being angel, until you kindly show me where he said that! before we can conclude admission or denial


show me where exactly it was said 'word for word'



i support the witnesses, and got the legal right to do so



post what has not been posted before,pls.. but it will be a shame on you if it will not be a new post or posted before by a misinformed individual, so copy and paste them here, im particularly waiting!

U just jump into a thread, quoted an earlier thread all in an attempt to weaken an arguement and yet u neva see a place in ur pasted thread where ur pple said Jesus is an angel. Then hw do u manage to see wat u quoted frm the thread.

If u r a lawyer in this case, u r not a good lawyer cos u neva get ur facts right at allll. U call me a 'pot calling a kettle black', dats good. So u have admitted that the JW only quote frm a translation whenever they want to 'confuse' their readers and condemn the same translations anywhere the NWT contradicts the other translations. Well it is only a gullible reader dat will fall for their old tricks cos it has been uncovered by many of us.

Now on the issue of the Assembllues of God church making failed predictions, dat im not aware but could be true. And i can confidently to tell dat if Assemblies of God make any mistake in biblical interpretations they can come out in public and apologize for their errors and will neva cover-up tthe mistake.

My question to u is this, can any JW ever admit that their organization had made several failed predctions? The ansa is NO, even wen they are staring at their face dat those predictions were wrong. Do u still believe the 1914 JW official dogma?

@ BERNIMORE r u 'Barrister', one of my old friend on nairaland. Ur response, style of argument, signature, all look like his.

My mind tells me here dat BARRISTER has re-branded to BERNIMORE.

true2god: U just jump into a thread, quoted an earlier thread all in an attempt to weaken an arguement and yet u neva see a place in ur pasted thread where ur pple said Jesus is an angel. Then hw do u manage to see wat u quoted frm the thread.

If u r a lawyer in this case, u r not a good lawyer cos u neva get ur facts right at allll. U call me a 'pot calling a kettle black', dats good. So u have admitted that the JW only quote frm a translation whenever they want to 'confuse' their readers and condemn the same translations anywhere the NWT contradicts the other translations. Well it is only a gullible reader dat will fall for their old tricks cos it has been uncovered by many of us.

Now on the issue of the Assembllues of God church making failed predictions, dat im not aware but could be true. And i can confidently to tell dat if Assemblies of God make any mistake in biblical interpretations they can come out in public and apologize for their errors and will neva cover-up tthe mistake.

My question to u is this, can any JW ever admit that their organization had made several failed predctions? The ansa is NO, even wen they are staring at their face dat those predictions were wrong. Do u still believe the 1914 JW official dogma?

those people are very dogmatic.

U just jump into a thread, quoted an earlier thread all in an attempt to weaken an arguement and yet u neva see a place in ur pasted thread where ur pple said Jesus is an angel. Then hw do u manage to see wat u quoted frm the thread.

U call me a 'pot calling a kettle black', dats good.

yes

So u have admitted that the JW only quote frm a translation whenever they want to 'confuse' their readers

im not a jw, so how do i admit a case that you havent proven, to me, they quote from other translations to show you guys that there is no difference using NWT and other older bible like KJV. they are actively using the word of God a right.

Now on the issue of the Assembllues of God church making failed predictions, dat im not aware but could be true. And i can confidently to tell dat if Assemblies of God make any mistake in biblical interpretations they can come out in public and apologize for their errors and will neva cover-up tthe mistake.

show us where they apologise or where other assemblies of God miracle worker like cerulo came out to appologise for frauding people and amase undeserved wealth before we can accept

My question to u is this, can any JW ever admit that their organization had made several failed predctions?
The ansa is NO, even wen they are staring at their face dat those predictions were wrong.

well, i dont see anytime they make a prediction of 'a day and time' against jesus's warning that ''nobody knows the time and day except the father'' in any of the allegation, so, im not aware of any mistake

Do u still believe the 1914

?

yes pls, i do

@ BERNIMORE r u 'Barrister', one of my old friend on nairaland. Ur response, style of argument, signature, all look like his.

My mind tells me here dat BARRISTER has re-branded to BERNIMORE.

nothing like rebrand, ok, Barristers is my elder brother

BERNIMOORE: U just jump into a thread, quoted an earlier thread all in an attempt to weaken an arguement and yet u neva see a place in ur pasted thread where ur pple said Jesus is an angel. Then hw do u manage to see wat u quoted frm the thread.



yes



im not a jw, so how do i admit a case that you havent proven, to me, they quote from other translations to show you guys that there is no difference using NWT and other older bible like KJV. they are actively using the word of God a right.





show us where they apologise or where other assemblies of God miracle worker like cerulo came out to appologise for frauding people and amase undeserved wealth before we can accept



well, i dont see anytime they make a prediction of 'a day and time' against jesus's warning that ''nobody knows the time and day except the father'' in any of the allegation, so, im not aware of any mistake

?

yes pls, i do

this is an example of a brainwashed person. you cant lie you are not JW because from your dishonesty you are one. you say NWT is no different from other bible are you on cocaine? this guy they claim JW fanatic you no get work why not Join the truth because the koko is they say if you no join their organization nothing for you :p