MrsChima:


That's sad for your case. I wonder what was your attitude toward the feminists that were insulting to you. I am willing to bet you weren't so nice yourself upon first impression.

5minsmadness:


What respect and dignity are women currently being denied in the west? I mention the west cos that is where feminism thrives more. Feminism as far as I'm concerned has done its job. Women can have any job they want, they are voted into strategic positions, they are not discriminated against when going to school. So what is feminism still baring its fangs for?

MrsChima:


I didn't know there was a xx and xy sperm. I thought it was xx and xy chromosomes but certainly not x and y sperm.

5minsmadness:


You would lose the bet.
I was nothing but polite.
In fact i had to pause the discusion to ask if i had offended her in some way
In the end when she got to know me better she passed her rudeness off as trying to "assert herself"
Go figure

freecocoa:
That a woman refuses to bow to a man means she's not humble? Dude your level of intelligence is on an all time high.

MrsChima:


I don't think he was honest in that statement. I believe he approached some women and because they didn't submit to his advances he coined them feminist and hence every female he met that was insultive and rude are feminist.

People can't say they are feminist but rather forced to be feminist or labeled feminist because of some convulsed stereotypes of feminists.

5minsmadness:


You would lose the bet.
I was nothing but polite.
In fact i had to pause the discusion to ask if i had offended her in some way
In the end when she got to know me better she passed her rudeness off as trying to "assert herself"
Go figure

freecocoa:
I can work with this.

How should men be treated? : With RESPECT

How should women be treated?: WITH LOVE

5minsmadness:


What respect and dignity are women currently being denied in the west? I mention the west cos that is where feminism thrives more. Feminism as far as I'm concerned has done its job. Women can have any job they want, they are voted into strategic positions, they are not discriminated against when going to school. So what is feminism still baring its fangs for?

MrsChima:


Okay...you had one incident and you have grouped all "feminists" rude and disrespectful?

Just like she thought she was just asserting herself and you took that as being rude. Who's to say your being "polite" wasn't polite all.

You have obviously offended her for her to react harshly with you unless she has a mental issue. If so why are you cohort in with mental patients?

MrsChima:


I don't think he was honest in that statement. I believe he approached some women and because they didn't submit to his advances he coined them feminist and hence every female he met that was insultive and rude are feminist.

People can't say they are feminist but rather forced to be feminist or labeled feminist because of some convulsed stereotypes of feminists.

MrsChima:
Awww sh1t Ronald4 lif is here!

DollyParton1:


The mistake is that many have equalled being opinionated to pride.

LordReed:


Yeah this is some of the misinformation that needs to be corrected.

ronald4lif:


Feminism drama all the time. You lots never get exhausted with the back and forth, do you?

5minsmadness:
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Moana:

There is a difference between simply "having rights" and "having these rights respected".
Go check on the number of women killed and tortured by serial killers and the number of girls raped by paedophiles, the number of girls both underage and majors forced into trafficking in these Western countries, then come back and then come back and tell us if thats what you call respecting their rights.

5minsmadness:


See, this is what I'm talking about.
Where in my post did i mention or even suggest that the woman should bow to the man?
And why the reference to my level of intelligence? Is that not a subtle insult or sarcasm at best?
Have I insulted you in any way since this discussion began?
So what's your beef now? That I said women were stronger than men and even backed it up with facts/links?

Why are feminists so aggressive?
whats your boggle?

5minsmadness:


Are any of the examples you quoted legal? Whats with you ladies and logic? Would any sane minded man support any of the crimes you mentioned above?

MrsChima:


You lots either. You lots don't like to be told to chill the fvck out and let differ of opinions unfold and change progression.

MrsChima:

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And why would any sane woman be against feminism?

5minsmadness:


Are any of the examples you quoted legal? Whats with you ladies and logic? Would any sane minded man support any of the crimes you mentioned above?

5minsmadness:

Because your prominent feminst leaders said this:

Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage. Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW

Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Andrea Dworkin

The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist. Ti-Grace Atkinson

When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression. Sheila Jeffrys

The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men. Sharon Stone

The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race. Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future – If There Is One – Is Female

And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference. Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime

Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience. Catherine Comins

As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE. Marilyn French

I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it. Barbara Jordan, former Congresswoman


why did freecocoa insult my intelligence? What was my offence?

Moana:
we ladies reason very well, you on the other hand.... Let me keep quiet.

Okay let me put it in simple terms your brain to understand this. If you rape and kill someone you violate their right to bodily intergrity, right to life, right to not be treated in a cruel or inhumane manner...

What feminism is advocating for is not only so that women have rights but so that they have these rights respected by other people i.e. Not to be raped, not to be killed, not to be used as sex slaves. Thats why they say feminism promotes rights for women. Keyword being "promote" i.e. ensuring the effectiveness or awareness of something.

Its not enough to just say i have rights, you have to have these rights respected by others. This is the simplest i can go, if you cannot understand it at this point, i really can't help you any further.

freecocoa:
Can you provide a book of rules and regulations for feminists? Also is there criteria to be feminist?

Let's even agree I was rude to you, what does that have to do with my being a feminist? Are you saying if I wasn't feminist, I will never be rude?

5minsmadness:

That's not my job, I'm not a member of the group. If anything its yours. You should watch the kind of people you call leaders to avoid hate beclouding your good intentions if indeed you have any nowadays.


The thing is, why were you rude in the first place? Because your feminst brain thought i was about to enslave you in some way? How can you exude love if you are so geared up for war?

And Yes, non-feminists tend to be more respectful than their feminst counterparts.

I have work to do.

5minsmadness:


And THE LAW isnt already doing this? Do you know why serial rapists, kidnappers etc are called criminals? Because they impinge on everyone's rights - BOTH MALE AND FEMALE. Men have been victims of serial rapists, kidnappers and serial killers as well. There is no where the law supports the things you listed above and there is no special prefence for men in killings either. The serial killer doesnt look at the male and say "hey, lets not kill him, he's male."
If you had given examples of eqaulity in the workplace or equal schooling rights etc it would have made sense.

Your example is inadequate and pathetic.

armyofone:
All the reason why men should be bringing in more bacon and doing more housework. Don't let your natural gifts go to waste.

cococandy:
we hear you.
The way you guys go about hounding and insulting feminists on narialand and still have the guts to say they are insulting.

Hard to believe you weren't harassing them for not buying into your idea of what a woman should be and act like.