may God help all of you----its obvious you all need help-----may GODS MERCY BE MADE AVAILABLE TO U -------

mactao:

No, davidylan, you got it wrong. Eagle is a term used by CU to refer to its graduates, not some self styled indication of pride.

So eagle has no spiritual connotation? thanks for the clarification.

but unfortunately you avoided any of the serious questions i raised.

perewesley:


------AND by the way most of u have dis misconception that all d student in c,u are from stinkly reach homes,,,,,some students help oda student
out,,,those who cant pay fees,,,,a couple of tyms som stydents have raised school fees for their friends and course mates------so if u dont know about a system or u are not
fully in a system,,,please keep quiet and dont talk

The cost of being an Eagle.  Fly high while Oyedepo flies in his private jet

perewesley:

may God help all of you----its obvious you all need help-----may GODS MERCY BE MADE AVAILABLE TO U -------
WHO NO GO NOR KNOW-------
I WENT TO C.C
I SAW D LOVE D BISHOP SHOWED US
THE PASSION HE HAS FOR HIS VISION
I PRAY U ALL LIVE TO C D ACTUALIZATION OF THIS VISION
AFRICA AND NIGERIA WOULD BECOME A BETTER PLACE
GOD BLESS YOU ALL
------AND by the way most of u have dis misconception that all d student in c,u are from stinkly reach homes,,,,,some students help oda student
out,,,those who cant pay fees,,,,a couple of tyms som stydents have raised school fees for their friends and course mates------so if u dont know about a system or u are not
fully in a system,,,please keep quiet and dont talk

this is all psychobabble designed to keep you folks enslaved to self. The only vision we have as christians is spelt out in -

[size=13pt]matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.[/size]

any other "vision" is man-centered, you can show all the "passion" you want, its hopeless if the eventual goal isnt to glorify Christ and bring more people to truly knowing Him. Read your bible thoroughly . . . nowhere are the empty words "vision" or "passion" used the way we use them today.

The actualization of Christ's mission was not to make Jerusalem or Nazareth a better place but to bring all to repentance. Infact Christ prophesied against Jerusalem so much so that the pharisees conspired to kill Him.

This is one entertaining thread. You young guys will use the term LMAO!!

Permit me Naira landers to weigh in. I see the fight guys like davdylan, Tudor and co fight on the religious thread almost daily. That fight is not in vain, but I like to restrain it to specifics to keep the debate civil and on the point. The phenomenom of christians profiting from the scriptures runs contrary to the Bible understanding of the early church. The early church shared all their goods in common and if you hid any, you were struck down by an angel. No Christian will say that this kind of Ministry is practiced today. What Paul and Peter and JohnPracticed have now been fully currupted into modern day christianity that we know today. The question is were all these predicted in the Bible? The short answer is Yes and that is why you must respect the scripture. 2 Pet 3

3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Note the word, make merchandise of you. Matter of fact this started with the amalgamation of church (well religion, as Islam followed a similar pattern) and state. If you read the Revelation with the spirit of God, this monster Church-state or Better Religion-state has grown wings and is responsible for the civilization we have today. That is the Anti-Christ and that applies to all religions. If you do not comply to their trickery, "you simply cannot prosper". You need to get their mark, - the mark of the beast. The mark is invisible but includes traits like : greed, lasciviousness, false doictrine, lack of love for your fellow man, seeking to show your might, self adulation, self glorification, and do as I say and not as I do. Several countries are now under the spell of the Revelation Harlot. From the States to Iran to Europe. In fact the kingdoms of the world is founded by the beast or Satan. Is it any surprise that during Christ's temptation, the devil showed him all the Kingdoms of the world?

Am sure you will wonder what the fate of the few good people will be? It is also the fate of God's kingdom which will flush our false civilization and false religions away for the righteous to shine forth. It happened before in Sodom and gomorah and in the time of Noah. It is set to happen again big time. If you notice Christ only preached about the coming of His father's kingdom, which was in fact God's unfininshed business at the garden of Eden. Surprisingly, Christians pray the Lord's prayer daily but do not understand what it means. I always warn people that Christians will be the first to reject Christ if he comes back. Recollect that the Jews were religious and they expoected the Messaiah, but did and still do not believe him when he came.

To summarize, the true followers of Our Lord Jesus Christ are known for what they practice not for what they say. Christians don't just get it, do they?

Marlbron:

This is one entertaining thread. You young guys will use the term LMAO!!

Permit me Naira landers to weigh in. [size=14pt]I see the fight guys like davdylan, Tudor and co fight on the religious thread almost daily.[/size] That fight is not in vain, but I like to restrain it to specifics to keep the debate civil and on the point. The phenomenom of christians profiting from the scriptures runs contrary to the Bible understanding of the early church. The early church shared all their goods in common and if you hid any, you were struck down by an angel. No Christian will say that this kind of Ministry is practiced today. What Paul and Peter and JohnPracticed have now been fully currupted into modern day christianity that we know today. The question is were all these predicted in the Bible? The short answer is Yes and that is why you must respect the scripture. 2 Pet 3

3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Note the word, make merchandise of you. Matter of fact this started with the amalgamation of church (well religion, as Islam followed a similar pattern) and state. If you read the Revelation with the spirit of God, this monster Church-state or Better Religion-state has grown wings and is responsible for the civilization we have today. That is the Anti-Christ and that applies to all religions. If you do not comply to their trickery, "you simply cannot prosper". You need to get their mark, - the mark of the beast. The mark is invisible but includes traits like : greed, lasciviousness, false doictrine, lack of love for your fellow man, seeking to show your might, self adulation, self glorification, and do as I say and not as I do. Several countries are now under the spell of the Revelation Harlot. From the States to Iran to Europe. In fact the kingdoms of the world is founded by the beast or Satan. Is it any surprise that during Christ's temptation, the devil showed him all the Kingdoms of the world?

Am sure you will wonder what the fate of the few good people will be? It is also the fate of God's kingdom which will flush our false civilization and false religions away for the righteous to shine forth. It happened before in Sodom and gomorah and in the time of Noah. It is set to happen again big time. If you notice Christ only preached about the coming of His father's kingdom, which was in fact God's unfininshed business at the garden of Eden. Surprisingly, Christians pray the Lord's prayer daily but do not understand what it means. I always warn people that Christians will be the first to reject Christ if he comes back. Recollect that the Jews were religious and they expoected the Messaiah, but did and still do not believe him when he came.

To summarize, the true followers of Our Lord Jesus Christ are known for what they practice not for what they say. Christians don't just get it, do they?

davidylan:

what is shocking you? its true now. . .you and *osisi(cant rem all the others) are always involved in one quarrel or the other with the muslim peeps on NL(dont get me wrong o. . .i like you guys and outside the religion forum on NL i hv a lot of respect for y'all)sometimes i wonder if Jesus was on NL if he'd act the way you guys do. . .i know u hv to stand up for what you believe in o, i'm just saying since Jesus is our yardstick we should ask ourselves W.W.J.D.?

@thread
i'm trying to see what i can find on this 'queen of sheba' on the web i'll be bach. . .geddit. . .lol

So what we are witnessing now in the world is a kind of Police action. The real deal is not that far away. Daily, religious and so called pious people are daily exposed for who they really are - Wolves in Sheep clothing. Government has failed worldwide. The UN and other world organization do not work. The problem of man keeps on rising. Now the major plank of their growth, Capitalism has also been exposed. "Bailout"is now the new term of the moment! This last recession which has covered the whole world is part of the last plagues, just like Terrorism. All these are in the Bible. The only way mankind will be saved is to practise Love for one another. If you love your neighbour you will not cheat him, you will not fight or kill , Whether you are Christian, Moslem, Aetheist or Juju Worshipper, once you practice Love, you have fulfilled the expectation of God and he knows you, like he knew Lazarus. Christ said that there will be two types of people, one will be taken and the other left. In other words, one is killed and the other is left!

I am aware that some people will say that Christ says unless you are baptized and believe, you will not be saved. True, but the thief crucified with him made heaven, go figure! It is only the King that knows the secret of his kingdom.

netotse:

what is shocking you? its true now. . .you and *osisi(cant rem all the others) are always involved in one quarrel or the other with the muslim peeps on NL(dont get me wrong o. . .i like you guys and outside the religion forum on NL i hv a lot of respect for y'all)sometimes i wonder if Jesus was on NL if he'd act the way you guys do. . .i know u hv to stand up for what you believe in o, i'm just saying since Jesus is our yardstick we should ask ourselves W.W.J.D.?

probably not but he wouldnt put up with heresy in the name of false humility either. You have a point though, i'm praying Christ will help me learn how to reach other people in the way He would want me to.
thanks for the checks, they help even though you guys may not know it.

Social Critics in their ugly regalia; ask yourself what impact have I(mr/mrs critic) made? To hit the keyboards/keypads could be so easy and free especially when it comes to Internet faceless Nigerians tearing seemingly known Nigerian physical or spiritual patrotics. Don't tell me about Bishop Oyedebo when you believe nothing about divinity(God). And how good are you(critic)?
You're being godless(unbeliever) is your choice. I thank God for the "Living Faith aka Winners Chapel."
BRB.

Tudor, u hv 2b kful d way u talk both within n without. God respects dt man so mch, u may nt knw d blessings u'v rcievd dirctly or indirctly thro him. He might evn b ur saving grace in tym of nd. Jst watch ur tongue n b kful.

Tudor, u hv 2b kful d way u talk both within n without. God respects dt man so mch, u may nt knw d blessings u'v rcievd dirctly or indirctly thro him. He might evn b ur saving grace in tym of nd. Jst watch ur tongue n b kful.

Tudor, u hv 2b kful d way u talk both within n without. God respects dt man so mch, u may nt knw d blessings u'v rcievd dirctly or indirctly thro him. He might evn b ur saving grace in tym of nd. Jst watch ur tongue n b kful.

dawn001:

Tudor, u hv 2b kful d way u talk both within n without. God respects dt man so mch, u may nt knw d blessings u'v rcievd dirctly or indirctly thro him. He might evn b your saving grace in tym of nd. Jst watch your tongue n b kful.

That's not true. God is a respecter of nobody and stop text messaging.

davidylan:

that was what he said the Lord told him in 1982. [b]Why has Nigeria become poorer since then? [/b]Has the Lord's "prophecy" to Oyedepo failed?

The mind will have to agree before the body can receive. If all we do is argue and doubt God, how can He be in a haste to bless us lest we all turn away from Him?. Besides, 1000 years is like one day in the eyes of the lord. 1982 was just yesterday and the prophecy shall still come to pass. It took God 400 years to fulfill His promise to the Israelites and deliver them from the hands of the Egyptians, why can't you exercise patience and wait for an exceedingly  abundant life in Nigeria courtesy of the God of Oyedepo?. The vulture is a patient bird.

davidylan:


lol Oyedepo, Adeboye, pastor Chris . . . all have their kids safely ensconced in schools and houses abroad . . . their parents live in the best houses, dine on the best wine, drive the latest cars, fly private jets and you say they do not reap the wealth of their ministry? If this is "meagre" living then i'm going to ask my father right away why he didnt just quit his job and set up a "ministry", perhaps i'd be living large on the donations of the poor in the US by now.

It's not Oyedepo who stopped your dad from pursuing a career in the ministry. Shoot, even Jesus rode on a white donkey which is equivalent to a Bentley or private jet  nowadays. God also said, the people who works in my vineyard shall reap from it. Even traditional religion allows babalawos to eat the chickesn and goats used for sacrifices.

davidylan:

Of course, by offering the choicest seats in the front row for political thieves in Nigeria and encouraging banks to overcome the recession by paying billions in "tithes" to the "church".  Sure i can just see the solution in the horizon. We'll all start our churches soon.

Christ said, come to me as ye are. He also said, "I didn't come for the righteous but the unrighteous because its only the sick who needs a doctor". If Oyedepo and Adeboye discriminate against the political thieves, how will they ever repent and come to Christ?. Those thieving politicians have souls like you do and its only through repentance that we can get them to hate embezzlement. These pastors, contrary to what you believe are more interested in their souls than what they offer to the church. I hope you know the wicked rich rarely give to God, you may be surprised that somebody like Ibori pays only 100 naira per month in tithes because he believes its a waste of resources. He will rather pay tithes to his mistresses than the house of God.

White Hair:

Everybody with his/her opinion, God knows who is serving Him. But we should learn not to pull people that are trying down, no one is perfert.

You dey mind them. I see some elements of tribalism and religious segregation in some fiery opinions here. Na today.

Alot of people are naturally biased against the Bishop and most of them speaking are not even Christians, Please if you are not a christian, better shut up your mouth. Tell me which other religion has been able to work miracle or give sight to the blind?

There might be some here who are christians but donnot llike the bishop. Well, if God uses him, then he's a true minister of God. I wonder how some one can hoodwink thousands of people in a crusade ground. Did he stage manage all the miracles? what about the fleeing of the witch? I'm not an advocate of any body, i'm only defending the veracity of the christian faith.God's power is real and effective through JESUS Christ alone.

perewesley:

may God help all of you----its obvious you all need help-----may GODS MERCY BE MADE AVAILABLE TO U -------
WHO NO GO NOR KNOW-------
I WENT TO C.C
I SAW D LOVE D BISHOP SHOWED US
THE PASSION HE HAS FOR HIS VISION
I PRAY U ALL LIVE TO C D ACTUALIZATION OF THIS VISION
AFRICA AND NIGERIA WOULD BECOME A BETTER PLACE
GOD BLESS YOU ALL
------AND by the way most of u have dis misconception that all d student in c,u are from stinkly reach homes,,,,,some students help oda student
out,,,those who cant pay fees,,,,a couple of tyms som stydents have raised school fees for their friends and course mates------so if u dont know about a system or u are not
fully in a system,,,please keep quiet and dont talk

Another person who has been brainwashed , so are you trying to say that if we don't actualize the vision, Africa and Nigeria won't be a better place.
Well it may please you to know that i went to CU too and am thinking hard of the acclaimed love you claimed the Bishop showed.Is it the insults
or the talks of how if you are not "A CU STUDENT" you are enslaved?I beg to differ on what you said and for all i care you might be one of the
Student Union people(who of course were forced to take an oath).When it comes to reality i think some people on this thread have said the real truth
and nothing but the truth.
POINT 2[/b]Why will all the children in CU come from stinkly rich homes?Like someone said earlier is it not supposed to be a school all can afford?The excuse of people helping themselves don't make sense at all.As a missonary school, is it not supposed to be affordable?Those that can't pay their fees why didnt they go meet the Bishop or Deacon Nath to help them?Please spare me and speak the truth.If only CU was that lovely, am pretty sure the "[b]BISHOP HIMSELF WOULD HAVE SENT HIS KIDS THERE AND NOT SENT THEM TO ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY.OPEN YOUR EYEZ

the problem is that some ppl have been in nigeria so long, all they see is negative and the only response they can give is negative. That is the apathy in our land today. Some nigerian ministers are actually more effective outside the country! And not just ministers. It is a problem that MUST be tackled if we want to move on as a ppl. They atm of this country is very negative.

<< Matthew 19:24 >>

New International Version (©1984)
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

By all account we can safely say Bishop Oyedepo is a very wealthy man, any one with a private jet must be. According to the Bible, we know his chances of going to heaven is very slim.

These pastors together with them politicians done kill NIGERIA finish.

The mind will have to agree before the body can receive. If all we do is argue and doubt God, how can He be in a haste to bless us lest we all turn away from Him?. Besides, 1000 years is like one day in the eyes of the lord. 1982 was just yesterday and the prophecy shall still come to pass. It took God 400 years to fulfill His promise to the Israelites and deliver them from the hands of the Egyptians, why can't you exercise patience and wait for an exceedingly abundant life in Nigeria courtesy of the God of Oyedepo?. The vulture is a patient bird.

this kin patience get comma

Inhale. Thank God davidylnd is now wise and realize the whole miracle stuff is a bunch of fraud. Thank God. Our prayers is effective

@Tudor
pls be careful about your response concerning the things of GOD. I'm sure u are not a christian. The things of GOD are but foolishness in the eyes of unbelievers. Human intelligence cannot comprehend the ways of GOD. Do not incur the wrath of the Almighty. It is my fervent prayer that GOD will show himself to you.

The issue is this; did the queen of sheba run cos of oyedepo the answer is no. Then why did they have to lie? And with all the proof why did the zombies refuses to accept the fact that thier god oyedepo did not drive nobody

The issue is this; did the queen of sheba run cos of oyedepo the answer is no. Then why did they have to lie? And with all the proof why did the zombies refuses to accept the fact that thier god oyedepo did not drive nobody

The newspaper article was shared at our church. FACT: Christ will always triumph against the forces of evil. David Oyedepo rocks (don't know if it's right to say that), he's a man of God, no doubt. It's 20 days before I get to see him live for the first time, I can't wait. We're Winners not just by faith but by testimony

THE WORLD IS A CENTER STAGE AND WE ARE ALL ACTORS IN IT, WITH A DUTY TO PLAY OUR PARTS WELL AS LONG AS IT LAST,,,,,,,tHEY SAY IN DEARH ALL THINGS BECOME CLEAR,,,,TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT THE MAN HAS MADE INPACT IN NIGERIA AND BYOND,
A CITDEL OF LEARNING LIKE CU THAT IS WORLD CLASS IS A HONOUR TO NIGERIA,,,,,,,,,,,WITH PPL ABROAD WANTING TO SEND THEIR KIDS THERE,,, WHAT ELSE DO U WANT
ITS A PRIDE FOR OUR COUNTRY,,,,
WE LACK THIS ENCOURAGEMENT THATS WHY NIGERIA,,,,,,,ITS MOTIVATION WE LACK THATS WHY WE ARE STILL BACK AS A NATION,
U TALKING HERE IF U DIE NOW, WHAT WILL PPL HERE REMEBBER U FOR ,,,,
MAYBE FOR THE BACKBITING U SPREAD HERE ABI
PLS IF U ATTEND CU AND U REGRET THEN U NEED TO GO BACK TO THE SCH TO RETURN THE RESULT, SO U DONT PARRADED CURSES,,,,

REMEMBER WHER U POIT WITH ONE FINGER 4 OTHERE POINT BACK AT U.
try to be a soultions to life problems not the one creating the problems.,,

netotse:

what is shocking you? its true now. . .you and *osisi(cant rem all the others) are always involved in one quarrel or the other with the muslim peeps on NL(dont get me wrong o. . .i like you guys and outside the religion forum on NL i hv a lot of respect for y'all)sometimes i wonder if Jesus was on NL if he'd act the way you guys do. . .i know u hv to stand up for what you believe in o, i'm just saying since Jesus is our yardstick we should ask ourselves W.W.J.D.?

@thread
i'm trying to see what i can find on this 'queen of sheba' on the web i'll be bach. . .geddit. . .lol

keep making posts like that , and you'll soon be relegated to the ranks of 'christians'

God please let Nigeria be the next to be delivered

Oh Dear! What a thread.