I saw some of your post on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-32500.32.html

mazaje:

How can u hate when people say the truth about others, some of this pators are theives, they steal from people based on their ignorance and u dont want people to talk about it, knowledge is power, when people know that some of these people are stealing from them they will stop giving them money and use it for something else.

You no longer hear pastors preach about holiness and rigteousness these days all u hear is give and it shall be given unto u, people have been giving and nothing has been happening, the change is not coming into the peoples lives, every sunday people are giving but nigeria and nigerians are moving backwards, this just goes to tell us that we should be christians and serve God cos we want to do so not because some pastors are telling us its one of the surest ways to get out of poverty.

mazaje:

personally I believe God prospers a person if he gives to others more than giving to a local church or assembly. as u said about the US giving thats why they are properous as a nation. i will like to know if they give out to the church? do they? no they dont they mostly give out to those they feel are poor and in need, instead of pastors preaching about people giving to each other they tell people to give to them in the name of giving unto the lord, i will want every body to give a quality offering to the lord is what u hear during offering time, sow quality seeds so that the lord will bless u, they never tell people to feed their hungry neighbours or to take their money and help settle the hospital bills of the poor, its all about giving to the church in the name of giving unto God.

Giving doesnt really mean giving onto the church or local assembly, pastors should learn to tell people to give unto thier poor neighbours instead of giving to the local assembly cos to me its better to give to a poor hungry or sick guy on the streets than to give to the local assembly.

I checked it out and saw that you were a christian when you joined nairaland in 2006 from some of your earliest post when discussing about christianity with others on this forum. Imagine my surprise when I realized that you were once a Christian on nairaland.

Yes, Mazeje, we would like to know when the transition happen and what pursauded you to make the conversion.

See transmission let schumacher come and try!

pretty shocking lol.

come and testify brother mazaje

This is really shocking. . Its true his earliest post on the religion section shows that he was once a Christian here on nairaland. I can't believe this.

Mazaje an kama ka kenan. Baza ka fito ka ba da bayani ba?

Never knew that my man was once a foot solider of Jesus on nairaland.

mazaje the christian soldier. turncoat

mazaje what changed you to a rabid atheist?

huxley:

Yes, Mazeje, we would like to know when the transition happen and what pursauded you to make the conversion.

I was a Christian back In 2006 when I joined nairaland. My various travels around the world was what first lead me to begin to question my faith. I was born into a muslim family but my dad allowed my mum to practice her christian religion while they still remained married. When my dad died the me and my siblings had to become very very conservative christians, I became a complete christian at the age of 13 (actually I was a closet christian ). My dad was not a serious muslim at all so we were just muslims in name only because my mum and her relatives used to take us to church and teach us about christianity but he never objected. . .in fact he didn't even mind at all. He just did not care about Islam or any religion at all. he just made sure that we knew the tenets of Islam and learn how to read the koran and pray thats all nothing more because he didn't care at all.

My travels around the world was what opened my eyes to the institution called religion and faith. Those travels really showed me how the entire system works and how people turn culture, tradition and societal acceptance into facts and realities even if they are false and leads to their own detriment. I Visited Thailand and Singapore in october back 2006 and I saw the other side of the world that I never knew existed. My room mate at that time who is from Thailand took me there. While we were there we went to a small village about 200-km away from Bangkok for the burial of his uncle that passed away. While we were there I moved away and went to a corner and allowed them to continue their burial ritual. They burned incense chanted and did all their Buddhist incantations while I was watching from a distance. Deep inside my mind I was really feeling sorry and bad for them for wasting their time praying for some one that was already in hell because I thought that since the person they were about to bury refused to accept Jesus as his lord and savior he was doomed eternally. I really felt bad for them because I just felt they were doing a frivolous exercise.

One of them then walked up to me just said hi in their language shook my hand and left. . .when he saw me and my friend together he quickly walked up to us and asked my friend to tell him how happy he is to see me, he asked what brought me to thailand and most especially to their little village and I told him. My friend then became our translator. He told me about the guy that passed away and how great he was, he said he touched the lives of most of the people in the village that is why they decided to bury him instead of cremating him. He asked me if we bury our dead or cremate them and I told him we bury our dead, then he asked me what I believed in and I told him that I am a christian, and he replied by asking me what I meant by that. I didn't even know how to answer so I just repeated that I was a christian, he then asked me if christianity involves ancestral worship. I was kind of pissed at the questions he was asking me so I asked my friend if the guy was serious at all with the type of questions he was asking me and my friend said that he was, I laughed and told my friend if its true that the man does not know any thing about christianity and he said yes. I still did not believe, so I just told my friend to tell him, and my friend told me that he knows very little about christianity all he knows is that we believe in a man named Jesus and thats all he knows. It was then that I realized that I and my friend have never really talked about religion at all. So I told him to tell the man that I believe in Jesus Christ the son of God who came to die for the sins of all mankind and lead them into salvation according to God's plan, his face was indifferent when my friend told him and he asked me if Jesus is an ancestor of mine. I laughed because I still could not believe what I was hearing.

I didn't know what to tell him, I just said that Jesus is the son of God, not my ancestor, two other Buddhist monks also came along and we talked then I truly realized that this guys were truly serious because they have never heard the name Jesus in their lives at all, I realized that I was the first person to tell them about Jesus. I was really terrified. The year 2006 and here are people that have never heard the name Jesus in their entire lives and these are men that were well into their 40's and 50's. I just could not believe it, They had their own scriptures that teaches them everything about life, their realities coincides with everything that is written in their own scriptures, they had their own beliefs and their entire lives revolves around those set of beliefs just like ours. Jesus, the holy spirit or the God that I believed in had no role to play in their lives at all and that did not affect their lives in any negative way at all. They were leading normal lives like us, they had their own challenges and everything but the fact that most of them have never had the name Jesus talk less of knowing anything about christianity continued to hunt me. I could not believe it. I thought about how it will be very unfair to them if they die and go to hell because the bible says that Jesus is the only way to salvation and no one can go to God except through him. Since they do not believe in Jesus I believed they were all doomed, I could not accept it and I started to really question the whole thing from then on. . . . . . . . . .(will continue later on)

Mazeje, am enjoying the story already. Nicely written up! Cheers

@ Mazaje. . .hurry up. . .this ur story na "thrilla in Manilla"

Intriguing stuff

wow, mazaje you are a terrific writer,

This is the next best thing since Pilgrim's confession sliced bread!

OP


take everything and everyone on NL with a grain of salt.

Its the internet for crying out loud- why are you surprised?


some people post with multiple ids here. The ardent Christian can also be the fervent muslim/atheist on another thread, or even the same one.

etc etc.

@ tpiah*


Are you insinuating bipolar/multiple personality disorder ?

posakosa:

@ tpiah*


Are you insinuating bipolar/multiple personality disorder ?

Not necessarily.

Just a means of livelihood.

or simply because one can.

I can see a pattern here, the kind of questions mazaje was asking on N/L in the quotes below are pointers to those who are on a slopy descent into the atheism. The likes of Kunleoshob/Jagoon and others come to mind. I can also see that the stories of bindex and mazaje look similar and the fact that you stand in a garage does not make you into a car equally the fact that your parent take you to church does not make you a Christian. You need to have a personal encounter with Jesus to have an intimate relationship with Him that makes you a Christian after you have repented and forsaken your sins. The fact that your parents take you to church does not make you a Christian, it involves your own will and decision to commit your life to Christ.

OLAADEGBU:

I can see a pattern here, the kind of questions mazaje was asking on N/L in the quotes below are pointers to those who are on a slopy descent into the atheism. The likes of Kunleoshob/Jagoon and others come to mind. I can also see that the stories of bindex and mazaje look similar and the fact that you stand in a garage does not make you into a car equally the fact that your parent take you to church does not make you a Christian. You need to have a personal encounter with Jesus to have an intimate relationship with Him that makes you a Christian after you have repented and forsaken your sins. The fact that your parents take you to church does not make you a Christian, it involves your own will and decision to commit your life to Christ.

Will you please be quite. The fact that you decided to swallow the story entirely without finding out if it is true or not does not mean you have the right to tell others how to think or reason. If you were born in Mongolia(As mazaje has said there are millions living in the world today that have never heard that name at all) I don't think you would have ever heard the name Jesus at all talkless of deluding yourself into believing that you are into a personal relationship with him. The human mind is very powerful, You can imagine yourself and create a personal  relationship with a tree and your mind will help you achieve and establish that relationship as long as you truly believe in it, commit to it and make it your prority your mind will help you establish that relationship and it will be as real as it can be to you.

Isn't it funny that only those that believe in your own version and interpretation of the bible and christianity that are right and are in a personal relationship with your god while you truly believe that all the others that diagree with your own version and interpretation are wrong and deluded?

mazaje my man, now is time to write your own book. you are a talented writer and i know your book will do well. good luck

@Olaadegbu
You just a deluded hypocritical idiot, no matter how much rubbish you post about me I would still continue to point out fallacies in your daft and dogmatic posts.

tpiah - abeg no spoil this nairaland novel about to become a nollywood blockbuster.

thrilla in manilla

even in real life some people are Christians by day and babalawo visitors by night.

How much more internet life.

i hope mazaje's story (Be it real or imagined) will help christiam fanatics see that the world is too big anmd diverse for everybody to subscribe to one religion.

Of course there are millions of people who have lived and died without ever hearing of the jewish carpenter. Its really silly to imagine that they are all damned as a result. If that were true, certainly all our forefathers are in hell. Not to talk about the billions of red indians, asians, etc who have lived and died within their own culture, not ever hearing of the jewish magician.

Learn! Only the state of your inner being is important!

Nice one mazeje.

tpiah*:

OP


take everything and everyone on NL with a grain of salt.

Its the internet for crying out loud- why are you surprised?


some people post with multiple ids here. The ardent Christian can also be the fervent muslim/atheist on another thread, or even the same one.

etc etc.

What the hell is this nonsense tpiah?
If it were a christian narrating how jesus took him to the clouds and showed him jerusalem you wouldn't be running your mouth stupidly like this. . . . Rubbish!

Deep Sight:

i hope mazaje's story (Be it real or imagined) will help christiam fanatics see that the world is too big anmd diverse for everybody to subscribe to one religion.

Of course there are millions of people who have lived and died without ever hearing of the jewish carpenter. Its really silly to imagine that they are all damned as a result. If that were true, certainly all our forefathers are in hell. Not to talk about the billions of red indians, asians, etc who have lived and died within their own culture, not ever hearing of the jewish magician.

Learn! Only the state of your inner being is important!

Nice one mazeje.

Deep Sight,

Where are you on the theism spectrum? Are you a christian, moslem, agnostic, or deist?

Tudór:

What the hell is this nonsense tpiah?
If it were a christian narrating how jesus took him to the clouds and showed him jerusalem you wouldn't be running your mouth stupidly like this. . . . Rubbish!

you really need to watch your mouth- madness cant be too far away from you at any point in time, from what I'm seeing.

I know mazaje is your partner in the underworld religion but you still have to live among normal humans, so try to remember you havent reached nirvana yet. Na for earth you still dey.

While you're at it, try to ask yourself why you need to blow up over my post? Take a long deep breath and analyze yourself.



let me requote- see if your comprehension skills are up to par.

from tpia:

OP


take everything and everyone on NL with a grain of salt.

Its the internet for crying out loud- why are you surprised?


some people post with multiple ids here. The ardent Christian can also be the fervent muslim/atheist on another thread, or even the same one. etc etc.






now look again at your response and make sure you're not smoking crack while doing so.

Good one mazaje!
Keep it coming. . .
I can relate to your story in that my dad is also a muslim but just didn't care about islam or god at all. . . Infact I just called him today and asked if he was fasting he was like mess ramadan!
My mum was in charge when it came to religion and she was a very very dedicated christian and wasted no time shipping us all to mission schools telling me in particular that god showed her a vision about me revolving around Isaiah 54:13 and I will serve the lord and bla bla bla. . . .even at that young age I knew this was all crap.

tpiah*:

you really need to watch your mouth- madness cant be too far away from you at any point in time, from what I'm seeing.

I know mazaje is your partner in the underworld religion but you still have to live among normal humans, so try to remember you havent reached nirvana yet. Na for earth you still dey.

While you're at it, try to ask yourself why you need to blow up over my post? Take a long deep breath and analyze yourself.



let me requote- see if your comprehension skills are up to par.

from tpia:

OP


take everything and everyone on NL with a grain of salt.

Its the internet for crying out loud- why are you surprised?


some people post with multiple ids here. The ardent Christian can also be the fervent muslim/atheist on another thread, or even the same one. etc etc.






now look again at your response and make sure you're not smoking crack while doing so.

YES and I repeat again IF IT WERE A CHRISTIAN recounting some ridiculous testimony you wouldn't bring this issue about multiple id's, bipolarity and what not. It's only because he's an atheist and thats when you feel the need to advice caution. You're just trying to discredit him. . . You're such a hypocrite!

Tudór:

Good one mazaje!
Keep it coming. . .
I can relate to your story in that my dad is also a muslim but just didn't care about islam or god at all. . . Infact I just called him today and asked if he was fasting he was like[b] mess ramadan[/b]!
My mum was in charge when it came to religion and she was a very very dedicated christian and wasted no time shipping us all to mission schools telling me in particular that god showed her a vision about me revolving around Isaiah 54:13 and I will serve the lord and bla bla bla. . . .even at that young age I knew this was all crap.

huxley:

Deep Sight,

Where are you on the theism spectrum? Are you a christian, moslem, agnostic, or deist?

I would guess deist.

deism is usually an halfway house people eventually leave.

Tudór:

Good one mazaje!
Keep it coming. . .
I can relate to your story in that my dad is also a muslim but just didn't care about islam or god at all. . . Infact I just called him today and asked if he was fasting he was like mess ramadan!
My mum was in charge when it came to religion and she was a very very dedicated christian and wasted no time shipping us all to mission schools telling me in particular [b]that god showed her a vision about me revolving around Isaiah 54:13 and I will serve the lord [/b]and bla bla bla. . . .even at that young age I knew this was all crap.

I laugh in hausa , my muslims relatives are busy starving themselves for nothing all in the name of ramadan. My mum also saw a lot of vision concerning me around the book of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, etc telling her that I will be a vessel unto honor for the lord. Just as I said earlier the human mind is a very complex and powerful thing, it can help you create and turn into reality any thing that you want it to do for you as long as you seriously commit to that thing, make it a priority and focus on it completely.

Tudór:

YES and I repeat again IF IT WERE A CHRISTIAN recounting some ridiculous testimony you wouldn't bring this issue about multiple id's, bipolarity and what not. It's only because he's an atheist and thats when you feel the need to advice caution. You're just trying to discredit him. . . You're such a hypocrite!

You can say that again, if it were a moslem narrating his/her own story about how he left islam tapiah will be all over the place shouting how jesus is lord and good. I remember how some of them were busy cheering pligirm1 when she narrated her own story on how she left Islam for christianity. Hypocrites.

dementia isnt too far from you people.

Tudor, Bindex and others of like mind, pull up any thread where I've done any of the things you're claiming here.


couple of schizos.


Unlike you, my philosophy doesnt consist of cheap publicity on the web.