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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:15pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
More proof. CC ngozi123 hammert

Pictures of Anioma monarchs,

Obi of Ubulu Uku (Aniocha)
Obi Of Agbor.
Pere of Isaba

They are all wearing the Red and White of Benin culture, the Bini Beads and carrying or having a symbol of the Benin Staff of Office.


WHO TOLD U THOSE ITEMS BELONG TO BENIN?

DO U HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT THEY WERE NOT IN USE FIRST BY THE OBI'S?
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 10:18pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
Like I said it is wrong. How can you say your own king borrow another man's culture? Didn't he have his own then? Ngozi just relax and accept, stop dancing around

It's entirely possible for a people to borrow from another culture, especially if they're living under an Empire. The Oba of Benin was the head of the Benin Empire so it's not surprising to see the other Kings under his rule borrow certain aspects of his clothing style. We've seen this in the British Empire- it's not a new phenomenon. The question should really be why have you changed your argument?
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:20pm On Jan 03, 2017
Ngozi123:


It's entirely possible for a people to borrow from another culture, especially if they're living under an Empire. The Oba of Benin was the head of the Benin Empire so it's not surprising to see the other Kings under his rule borrow certain aspects of his clothing style. We've seen this in the British Empire- it's not a new phenomenon. The question should really be why have you changed your argument?


LET US LEAVE FAIRY TALE AND DISCUSS WITH EVIDENCE HERE.

DONT JUST SAY THINGS BRING PROVE.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 10:20pm On Jan 03, 2017
More evidences

First picture - Benin Chiefs
Second picture - Obi of Igbodo
Third picture - Obi of Onitcha

Even the dumb and blind can see that the Obi all came from Benin kingdom.

Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 10:21pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
More proof. CC ngozi123 hammert

Pictures of Anioma monarchs,

Obi of Ubulu Uku (Aniocha)
Obi Of Agbor.
Pere of Isaba

They are all wearing the Red and White of Benin culture, the Bini Beads and carrying or having a symbol of the Benin Staff of Office.

What has this got to do with Eze Chima not being a Bini man, as you suggested, but an Igbo man? Where did I deny that my ancestors didn't live under the Benin Kingdom?
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 10:21pm On Jan 03, 2017
Ngozi123:


It's entirely possible for a people to borrow from another culture, especially if they're living under an Empire. The Oba of Benin was the head of the Benin Empire so it's not surprising to see the other Kings under his rule borrow certain aspects of his clothing style. We've seen this in the British Empire- it's not a new phenomenon. The question should really be why have you changed your argument?
My argument has never changed. Igbos are from Benin. Fact

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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:21pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
More evidences

First picture - Benin Chiefs
Second picture - Obi of Igbodo
Third picture - Obi of Onitcha

Even the dumb and blind can see that the Obi all came from Benin kingdom.

YES BUT THE CLAIM HERE IS THAT THE OBI USED THOSE ITEMS BEFORE THE OBA OF BENIN STOLE IT DURING ONE OF HIS SLAVE RAIDS.


THE THIEVING OBA OF BENIN.

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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 10:22pm On Jan 03, 2017
hammerT:


YES BUT THE CLAIM HERE IS THAT THE OBI USED THOSE ITEMS BEFORE THE OBA OF BENIN STOLE IT DURING ONE OF HIS SLAVE RAIDS.


THE THIEVING OBA OF BENIN.
So why didn't Nnamdi Azikiwe, the greatest igboman that ever lived say all these. grin grin

Bro I know you are pained, just accept the truth
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:23pm On Jan 03, 2017
NGOZI123, U SAY IGBO CAME FROM WEST BRING PROVE.

ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIG SHOWS IGBO WERE IN THE EAST FIRST.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:25pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
So why didn't Nnamdi Azikiwe, the greatest igboman that ever lived say all these. grin grin

Bro I know you are pained, just accept the truth

LEAVE HEARSAY, THAT IS NOT A CREDIBLE EVIDENCE, PROVIDE PROVE TO SUBSTANTIATE UR CLAIMS.


I HAVE PROVIDED PROVE FROM THE MOMENT I JOINED THIS THREAD, YET U LOT INSIST ON HEARSAY.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 10:27pm On Jan 03, 2017
hammerT:


LEAVE HEARSAY, THAT IS NOT A CREDIBLE EVIDENCE, PROVIDE PROVE TO SUBSTANTIATE UR CLAIMS.


I HAVE PROVIDE PROVE FROM THE MOMENT I JOINED THIS THREAD YET U LOT INSIST ON HEARSAY.
I have provided several pictures as evidence, you are yet to provide pictures to support your own stance. Even your claim that igbos are from Israel is flawed as you are yet to provide credible evidence
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:30pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
I have provided several pictures as evidence, you are yet to provide pictures to support your own stance. Even your claim that igbos are from Israel is flawed as you are yet to provide credible evidence

DUDE THOSE PICTURE SHOW EVERYBODY HOLDING SIMILAR ITEMS BUT CAN PROVE WHO WAS HOLDING THEM FIRST.

WHO HELD THEM FIRST IS THE ARGUMENT HERE.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 10:30pm On Jan 03, 2017
Ngozi123:


What has this got to do with Eze Chima not being a Bini man, as you suggested, but an Igbo man? Where did I deny that my ancestors didn't live under the Benin Kingdom?
Your ancestors didn't just live in Benin kingdom, they later migrated down to the east but still acknowledge their Benin heritage that's why the obi of issele uku went to pay homage to the Oba of Benin.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 10:31pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
My argument has never changed. Igbos are from Benin. Fact

Yes, it did.

This was your first reply to me:
dragonking3:
The Obi of Onitcha and these dude are all under the Benin dynaty. It is a bitter truth for you guys to swallow but it is true.

This was my first reply to you:

Nigeria was once ruled over by the British Empire but that doesn't make you or I any more English than the next person. Where have I disputed the bolded?

Note the "where have I disputed the bolded" part; that's where I clearly told you that I agreed that many of the inhabitants of Onitsha/Ogbaru were once ruled over by the Benin Kingdom. You, on the other hand, suggested that they were Bini just because they came from the Benin Empire. So, what made you change your argument on Eze Chima?
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 10:32pm On Jan 03, 2017
hammerT:


DUDE THOSE PICTURE SHOW EVERYBODY HOLDING SIMILAR ITEMS BUT CAN PROVE WHO WAS HOLDING THEM FIRST.

WHO HELD THEM FIRST IS THE ARGUMENT HERE.
For a whole obi of issele uku paying homage to the oba of Benin seeking for permission before ascending the throne, we all know who held them first. grin

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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:33pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
[s]Your ancestors didn't just live in Benin kingdom, they later migrated down to the east but still acknowledge their Benin heritage that's why the obi of issele uku went to pay homage to the Oba of Benin. [/s]


TRASH!

U KNOW BETTER, PROVIDE PROVE THEY MIGRATED EAST AND NOT FROM EAST TO WEST.

DRAW A TIMELINE OF THE BENIN KINGDOM AND COMPARE IT TO ARCHAEOLOGICAL FINDING IN THE EAST, U KNOW THE EAST HAD BEEN FAR ADVANCE BEFORE BENIN KINGDOM SURFACED.

IT IS JUST LIKE TODAY, TECHNOLOGICALLY, THE EAST IS FAR AHEAD OF EVERYBODY.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 10:34pm On Jan 03, 2017
Ngozi123:


Yes, it did.

This was your first reply to me:


This was my first reply to you:



Note the "where have I disputed the bolded" part; that's where I clearly told you that I agreed that many of the inhabitants of Onitsha/Ogbaru were once ruled over by the Benin Kingdom. You, on the other hand, suggested that they were Bini just because they came from the Benin Empire. So, what made you change your argument on Eze Chima?
Please bring out my argument on eze Chima. May be you have forgotten that you deliberately single pick that quote from Nnamdi Azikiwe write up that I posted just to buttress your point while leaving all the whole write up
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by gregyboy(m): 10:36pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
My guy no fit answer. grin

as a matter of fact the oba of benin has a traditional tailor with time that sews is wears alongside the chiefs clothes the red caps is been worn over time along side with the white cap depend on the colour of clothes the put on it doesnt really mean it must b red as u say a benin mans cap is different from the ibo mans cap a benin cap is round unlike the ibo conical in shape

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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:38pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
For a whole obi of issele uku paying homage to the oba of Benin seeking for permission before ascending the throne, we all know who held them first. grin

WE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS. SHOW WHERE HE ASKED FOR PERMISSION. SOMEBODY WENT TO INFORM AND INVITE A NEIGHBORING MONARCH, U TURN IT TO ASK FOR PERMISSION. SMH!
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 10:40pm On Jan 03, 2017
hammerT:


WE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS. SHOW WHERE HE ASKED FOR PERMISSION. SOMEBODY WENT TO INFORM AND INVITE A NEIGHBORING MONARCH, U TURN IT TO ASK FOR PERMISSION. SMH!

Pained grin

Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:41pm On Jan 03, 2017
THE POPULARITY OF BENIN IS DUE TO THEIR SLAVE RAIDS WEN THEY CAPTURED NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES USING WEAPONS THEY GOT FROM THE PORTUGUESE AND BRITISH.


THAT WAS THE HEIGHT OF THE KINGDOM, THIS FOLLOWED A SWIFT DECLINE, WEN THE BRITISH DECIDED TO GO INTO THESE COMMUNITIES THEMSELVES.

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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 10:42pm On Jan 03, 2017
THIS CLOWN hammerT WAS SO FRUASTRATED TODAY THAT HE EXHAUSTED ALL HIS LIES AND RUMOURS THAT HE STARTED TROWING DISSES, INSULTING AND TROWING JABS AT IGBO GIRLS shocked

GOD!! HOW LOW CAN YOU GET BRO?.... DAMN!!!

I TRUST IGBO GIRLS THEY WILL NEVER STOP LOW TO EVEN CONTEMPLATE DATING A GUY LIKE YOU........

THEY KEEP COMING OUR WAY cool tongue BECAUSE WE GIVE LADIES MAXINUM DUE RESPECT kiss kiss

ALL BECAUSE I TOLD ngozi123 THAT I THINK SHE IS BEAUTIFUL EVEN THO I HAVENT ACTUALLY MET THIS LADY!!

NOW ITS OBVIOUS UR HEAD IS OBVIOUSLY FOOCKED UP WIT A LOT OF POO grin grin grin grin grin

angrySMH !!!


gregyboy dragonking3

Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 10:43pm On Jan 03, 2017
BornStunner1:
THIS CLOWN hammerT WAS SO FRUASTRATED TODAY THAT HE EXHAUSTED ALL HIS LIES AND RUMOURS THAT HE STARTED TROWING DISSES, INSULTING AND JABS AT IGBO GIRLS shocked

GOD!! HOW LOW CAN YOU GET BRO.... DAMN!!!

I TRUST IGBO GIRLS THEY WILL NEVER EVEN DATE A GUY LIKE YOU........ THEY KEEP COMING OUR WAY cool tongue BECAUSE WE GIVE LADIES DUE RESPECT kiss kiss

ALL BECAUSE I TOLD ngozi123 THAT I THINK SHE IS BEAUTIFUL EVEN THO I HAVENT ACTUALLY MET THIS LADY!!

NOW ITS OBVIOUS UR HEAD IS OBVIOUSLY bleeped UP WIT A LOT OF POO grin grin grin grin grin
SMH !!!


gregyboy dragonking3
That guy is a disgrace, atleast ngozi123 tried.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:45pm On Jan 03, 2017
BornStunner1:
THIS CLOWN hammerT WAS SO FRUASTRATED TODAY THAT HE EXHAUSTED ALL HIS LIES AND RUMOURS THAT HE STARTED TROWING DISSES, INSULTING AND JABS AT IGBO GIRLS shocked

GOD!! HOW LOW CAN YOU GET BRO.... DAMN!!!

I TRUST IGBO GIRLS THEY WILL NEVER EVEN DATE A GUY LIKE YOU........ THEY KEEP COMING OUR WAY cool tongue BECAUSE WE GIVE LADIES DUE RESPECT kiss kiss

ALL BECAUSE I TOLD ngozi123 THAT I THINK SHE IS BEAUTIFUL EVEN THO I HAVENT ACTUALLY MET THIS LADY!!

NOW ITS OBVIOUS UR HEAD IS OBVIOUSLY bleeped UP WIT A LOT OF POO grin grin grin grin grin
SMH !!!


gregyboy dragonking3


THAT IS Y WE WANT TO HAND U, ALL OF THEM AT ONCE, SO U CAN BE SATISFIED AND HAPPY.

I DOUBT U WILL BE INTERESTED IN DARK SKINNED KENYA, UGANDA AND SUDAN WOMEN THAT WE WILL USE TO REPLACE THEM.

WAT DID I SAY WRONG?

I KNOW WANT UNA ASSOCIATION OR ANYTHING THAT WILL BRING U GUYS TO US.

THAT IS Y WE WANT TO LEAVE NIGERIA FOR UNA.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 10:47pm On Jan 03, 2017
hammerT:



THAT IS Y WE WANT TO HAND U ALL OF THEM AT ONCE, SO U CAN BE SATISFIED AND HAPPY.

I DOUBT U WILL BE INTERESTED IN DARK SKINNED KENYA, UGANDA AND SUDAN WOMEN THAT WE WILL USE TO REPLACE THEM.

WAT DID I SAY WRONG. I KNOW WANT UNA ASSOCIATION OR ANYTHING THAT WILL BRING U GUYS TO US.

THAT IS Y WE WANT TO LEAVE NIGERIA FOR UNA.
Dont worry, we will take care of the Igbo ladies since you are willing to leave them for Ugandan girls.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 10:54pm On Jan 03, 2017
hammerT:



THAT IS Y WE WANT TO HAND U, ALL OF THEM AT ONCE, SO U CAN BE SATISFIED AND HAPPY.

I DOUBT U WILL BE INTERESTED IN DARK SKINNED KENYA, UGANDA AND SUDAN WOMEN THAT WE WILL USE TO REPLACE THEM.

WAT DID I SAY WRONG?

I KNOW WANT UNA ASSOCIATION OR ANYTHING THAT WILL BRING U GUYS TO US.

THAT IS Y WE WANT TO LEAVE NIGERIA FOR UNA.

LÀHO!!
BIKO!!
PLEASE!!

I JUST BEGGED YOU IN 3 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES ( EDO>IGBO>ENGLISH)

GIVE US IGBO GIRLS ALL OF THEM AND DONT YOU DARE LEAVE OUT YOUR SISTER BECAUSE I WANT HER TOO!! cheesy
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:56pm On Jan 03, 2017
BornStunner1:


LÀHO!!
BIKO!!
PLEASE!!

I JUST BEGGED YOU IN 3 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES ( EDO>IBO>ENGLISH)

GIVE US IGBO GIRL ALL OF THEM AND DONT YOU DARE LEAVE OUT YOUR SISTER BECAUSE I WANT HER TOO!!



Y ARE WE EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ARE U IGBO GUY? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL DISCUSS AMONGST OURSELVES AND NOT WITH U.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by BornStunner1: 10:58pm On Jan 03, 2017
hammerT:




Y ARE WE EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ARE U IGBO GUY? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL DISCUSS AMONGST OURSELVES AND NOT WITH U.

AS LONG AS YOU STAY IGBO YOU ARE ALSO BENIN!!
angry grin grin cheesy grin
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by hammerT: 10:59pm On Jan 03, 2017
BornStunner1:


AS LONG AS YOU STAY IGBO YOU ARE ALSO BENIN!!
angry


U ARE NOT MAKING SENSE!
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Ngozi123(f): 11:00pm On Jan 03, 2017
dragonking3:
Please bring out my argument on eze Chima. May be you have forgotten that you deliberately single pick that quote from Nnamdi Azikiwe write up that I posted just to buttress your point while leaving all the whole write up

I likened the situation of the Igbos living under the Benin Empire's to that of Nigerians under the British Empire i.e. living under an empire doesn't equate to a shared ethnicity, which you disagreed with so I asked you what Eze Chima's Bini name was seeing as you implied that you disagreed with the notion that he wasn't a Bini man. If you didn't mean that then I was mistaken and I apologise but your point was a bit confusing considering the way you responded to that post.
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by Cire80: 11:02pm On Jan 03, 2017
hammerT:


WE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS. SHOW WHERE HE ASKED FOR PERMISSION. SOMEBODY WENT TO INFORM AND INVITE A NEIGHBORING MONARCH, U TURN IT TO ASK FOR PERMISSION. SMH!

he didn't go there to ask for permission rather he went to the land of his ancestors for tutelage. He spent months at the Palace and spent time with the Oba at the Palace which he described as his ancestral home wihere his ancestors fled from many centuries ago
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by dragonking3: 11:02pm On Jan 03, 2017
Ngozi123:


I likened the situation of the Igbos living under the Benin Empire's to that of Nigerians under the British Empire i.e. living under an empire doesn't equate to a shared ethnicity, which you disagreed with so I asked you what Eze Chima's Bini name was seeing as you implied that you disagreed with the notion that he wasn't a Bini man. If you didn't mean that then I was mistaken and I apologise but your point was a bit confusing considering the way you responded to that post.
Okay Ngozi. No wahala. We are cool right?

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