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Daddy Freeze: "Pastor Said I Will Die In 24 Months Over Tithe, Free The Sheeple" / Daddy Freeze Replies Apostle Suleman On Tithing (Free The Sheeple) / Daddy Freeze And His Free The Sheeple Movement Against Pastors & Tithers (2) (3) (4)
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Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by felixomor: 9:48pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
sweetilicious: You started with "I dont think" Good. Your thoughts are not God's thoughts Next! And take note, God has ordained pastors and teachers of the word to feed on offering and tithe just like the temple levites. Read 1st Corinthians 9. 1Cor 9:13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? 9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. 2 Likes |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by Primesky(m): 9:48pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Tithing is a biblical command neither the prophets nor Jesus condemn or abolish it. Believers must be very careful this period because the devil too can quote and preach the Bible albeit upside down. The truth we run away from and refuse to tell ourselves now because it doesn't sound or appear comfortable, we will voluntarily tell it before God someday, but it might be too late. Be wise and avoid anti-Christ doctrines. 3 Likes |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by ipobarecriminals: 9:48pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Abudu2000: Abudu2000:seun,mynd44,lalasticlala.i greet una.This is Christian thread not islam thread. If we christain/traditional worshipers can't comment on muslim thread, why allow this Malam abudu with black spot to comment here?Let them too accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. Anyway,i dey wait for Friday 1 Like |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by mickeymimi: 9:49pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Buhari Goes After Pastor Over Comment On Herdsmen Nigerian government tried to arrest Pastor Isa El-Buba for his comments on the killings by herdsmen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1rY-Pco4ZI Mr President by Prophet Isa Elbuba Warning to Buhari https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6CBPmNNQiE |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by TribesNG: 9:50pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
savagefinder: savagefinder: and the book of Deuteronomy came after that, which is a modification to what was practiced earlier. Just like how grace is a modification to the law.. So what's your point? The children of Israel tithed before the advent of mosaic laws of which they had to switch to which was they practiced till when Jesus came.. So. If we want to continue tithing, which should we continue, the mosaic one? Or that of Abraham who tithed only once in his life? savagefinder: Bro all you're trying to say is that for more than 50yrs now God has not raised any Man Of God. Cuz if God did they would've preached against tithing. But as we all know that no genuine men of God has done that, it means God is not against it. Keep fooling that foolish man that is currently Fornicating after divorcing his wife. |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by TrumpDonald2: 9:51pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor:He didn't get any message. He only condoned your ignorance, so you don't display more. |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by jaytee01(m): 9:52pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor:And you fall into what category? |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by felixomor: 9:53pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
TrumpDonald2:Eiya Your psychotic delusions has teleported you into his mind ba? To know that he condoned abi? You are a dolt. Receive sense |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by felixomor: 9:54pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
jaytee01:Do u know the meaning of "category" as used there? |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by Nobody: 9:55pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Well said though I disagree with you about paying the tithe for life. God never commanded money to be taken from those who are struggling so that Pastors can cruise around in the best cars, fly in private Jets and wear the latest designer clothes. This is just robbery. Religion should not be seen as a career, rather, religion is about sacrifice and helping the needy. 3 Likes |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by TribesNG: 9:57pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Abudu2000: Fool. Because most people do it doesn't mean all of them are doing it. Do not use one to judge the rest. Well i won't argue with you sha bcuz you've never paid your tithe before. How many of you are even practicing the 'Giving' FREEZE was talking about. You just stopped paying tithe and that's all. Fools 1 Like |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:57pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
You just took a swipe at the Creator and Sustainer of the universe by saying He cannot take care His church and ministers without your tithe... Have you forgotten that a raven brought food for Eljah by His command? Have you forgotten that a fish and not man produced money for His temple tax... Have you forgotten that He made the dumb ass speak when there was no man sight to sent forth to the greedy Balaam. Those who believe in taxing the sheep for the up keep of the church know not this true GOD. Do not limit JESUS! 3 Likes |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by Nobody: 9:58pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Built2last:Baba help me na. Na only 5k I need. Bless you Boss |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by Judolisco(m): 10:01pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor:Jesus had but he gave all, Jesus had an accountant (Judas) who said d expensive oil should have been sold to get more funds to give to d poor as Jesus have been doing in d past even though Judas had anoda intention, another clear case was when Jesus was asked to pay tax he did not have he told peter go to the sea d first fish u catch open it and u will find money am not saying tithing is a bad thing but preachers have left d gospel to start preaching about money. 2 Likes |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by Kennedyiheme: 10:03pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor:oga no vex oo.. how has tithing helped Nigeria and Nigerians for the past 40 years?.. China no dey pay tithe o lool... those ones mission is to destroy churches 1 Like |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by felixomor: 10:04pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Judolisco:There will always be false teachers It is not our duty to start tailoring the word of God because of false teachers. Do your part and leave Judgement to God Lets keep having faith in God's Judgement 1 Like |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by lloyds(m): 10:04pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
No man can know God unless he reveals himself personally to us. Bible is authored by the holy spirit, and we need to be spiritual to gain recreational understanding. The Apostles were not tithing, but giving more than that (gave/shared everything they had). Jesus mentioned /approved tithing in Matt 23.23. The redeemed is ordained to receive the blessings of Abraham tru Jesus Christ by faith (Gal 3.14) Freeze was able to catch his followers bcoz many of them weren't paying before, or contemplating on its benefits. Many are also non Christians. Am not a pastor, just a follower of Christ, but my financial growth started when I started paying tithes, God moved me to another level when I keyed into paying first fruits. Freeze can only deceive baby believers, not those that have continually seen the practical hands of God. A loose man that prostitutes and heavily carnal cannot understand spirit things, u will see the proof in all his recent statements. I doubt he is even a Christian. |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by Built2last: 10:04pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Profbet: I am in a good mood now. Lemme have your account number. I will give you 10k. Give 1k to anyone who will never pay you back...that will give me joy 1 Like |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by KingSango(m): 10:04pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Built2last: Yes, they both support each other, the same way Europeans and Arabs enslaved Africa. And Arabs still enslave Africa and the Catholic Church runs Africa even scares many kings. Sango says, that's too bad. Sango feels sorry for no one. Grow stronger and become liberated. Ase. The Bible lies about a Jesus Christ that never existed. After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem 2 and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.” 3 When King Herod heard this he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him. 4 When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Messiah was to be born. 5 “In Bethlehem in Judea,” they replied, “for this is what the prophet has written: 6 “ ‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will shepherd my people Israel.’ ” 7 Then Herod called the Magi secretly and found out from them the exact time the star had appeared. 8 He sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and search carefully for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him.” 9 After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen when it rose went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. 10 When they saw the star, they were overjoyed. 11 On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. 12 And having been warned in a dream not to go back to Herod, they returned to their country by another route. The Quran lies about a Jesus Christ that never existed. “(And mention) when the angels said, ‘O Mary, indeed God gives you the good news of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter, and of those who are near to God.’ ‘He will speak to the people in the cradle, and in old age, and he will be of the righteous.’ She said, ‘My Lord, how can I have a son when no man has touched me.’ He said, ‘So (it will be,) for God creates what He wants. When He decides something, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is. And He will teach him the Book and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel. And (will make him) a messenger to the Children of Israel (saying), ‘Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, then breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by the permission of God. And I heal the blind and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by the permission of God. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Surely, there is a sign for you in that, if you are believers. And (I have come) confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before me, and to allow you some of what was forbidden to you. And I have come to you with a proof from your Lord, so fear God and obey me. Indeed, God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. This is the straight path.” Historical evidence that proves “Jesus Christ” never existed and was created by Constantine (Romans) The Council of Nicea - The Council that created Jesus Christ Unbiased Talk 25 April 2013 The origin of the “Savior” – Later becoming the person worshiped today as Jesus Christ Ptolemy 1 Meryamun Setepenre (c.a. 367-283 B.C.E- Before Common Era) (aka Soter) (“Soter” means savior) became the first European pharaoh of Egypt through military force led by Alexander the Greek (a.k.a Alexander the Great). When Ptolemy became pharaoh of Egypt, he wanted the Egyptians to consecrate him as a god. He wanted to be called a god because that was the title all of the pharaohs of Egypt were called prior to him. However, the people of Egypt refused to call him a god because they knew the only reason he became a pharaoh was through force, so in “305 BC -Ptolemy took the title of Pharaoh, taking the Egyptian name Meryamun Setepenre, which means “Beloved of Amun (Amun means God) Chosen of Ra (Ra means God)”, and because of the Egyptians refusal to acknowledge him as a God, he began killing the people of Egypt, which caused the Egyptian priests at Memphis to give into his request by agreeing to consecrate him to priesthood, in order to save their own lives. The key words in the above passage to keep in mind during your reading: Meryamun, Setepenre, Soter, which are words that were used to create the fictitious character of JESUS CHRIST in A.D. by Roman Emperor Constantine (Meryamun, Setepenre, Soter were used in B.C.). The images of Ptolemy below, which are similar to the images that are depicted as “Jesus” today, were forced upon the Africans and were ordered to be worshiped by the people of Rome. Let us continue to A.D. Serapis Christus Greco Roman c.a 135 B.C.E. The marble image in the London museum is the image they use of Christ (Jesus) today. Christus was also the nickname for Serapis. What is Serapis? (Origin of JESUS CHRIST) Ptolemy’s rule was to create a deity that would be worshiped by both the Egyptians and the Greeks. He created “Serapis “, the made up Graeco-Egyptian god that was invented in the 3rd century B.C., portrayed as Greek in appearance, but with Egyptian accessories, representing both wealth and resurrection. “Egypt, which you commended to me my dearest Servianus, I have found to be wholly fickle and inconsistent and continually wafted about by every breath of fame. The worshipers of Serapis here are called Christians and those who are devoted to the god Serapis (I find) call themselves Bishops of Christ.” - Hadrian to Servianus 134 A.D. Constantine and Arius Constantine the Greek (a.k.a Constantine the Great) Roman Emperor from 306 to 337, is known for being the first Roman emperor to be converted to Christianity which strangely enough, Arius of Libya (256-356 A.D.) born of African descent centuries after Ptolemy 1, had a problem with the Roman empire teaching the Africans and the people of Rome to worship a statue and celebrating death. He was considered a heretic, a professed believer (of God), who maintains religious opinions contrary to those accepted by his or her church (what the religious authorities usually controlled by government deem as the truth). Because he started attracting so many followers due to his teachings that were contrary to the Romans, Constantine called the council by summoning all the bishops to discredit Arius, The Council of Nicaea. During the time when this meeting was called upon, there was no mention of Jesus Christ at all; no man had ever existed by the name JESUS Christ, and an important fact is that this all took place Anno Domino (A.D.) (which Christians claim means after the death of Christ) in Latin means ‘in the year of the lord’. The name Jesus Christ didn’t exist before the meeting was called (read the statements made during that time frame). It was only after this that they presented to the people the name JESUS CHRIST. What Lord are they referring to? Kings have always been referred to as Lords or Gods. If Jesus Christ didn’t exist during the time this meeting took place nor ever heard of, whom are people worshiping today? Serapis Christus? Nicean Creed – Jesus Christ is born Nicean creed which became the statement of the Christian faith was written decreed and sanctified by 318 Roman Catholic bishops at the council in 325 A.D. (some believe this transformation took place “Council of Chalcedon” 451 A.D.). “We believe in one God the Father all-powerful of all things both seen and unseen one Lord Jesus Christ the Son of God the only begotten from the father, that is from the substance of the father, god from god, light from light, true god from true god, begotten not made, consubstantial with the father, through whom all things came to be both those in heaven and those in earth for us humans and for out salvation he came down and became incarnate became human suffered and rose up on the third day went up into the heavens is coming to judge the living and the dead and in the holy spirit” - The origin of the Trinity The authorities shut Arius down and threatened him with death to keep his mouth shut. They positioned the creed during the time when people started becoming aware of the lies and deception, and ordered all books to be burned; destroying all ancient writings, “no evidence no argument”, and the outcome was the transformation from Serapis Christus, which means Christ the Savior, to Jesus Christ by edict of Emperor Constantine in 325 A.D. Authors comment Christians, do your research. There may have been a man that walked the earth in the land known as Nazareth that attempted to guide the people back to righteousness, but, this man was not JESUS CHRIST. You see no mention of any man in Nazareth named JESUS mentioned during the meetings in Rome, or of a woman named Mary (the virgin) giving birth to a child named Jesus. This would explain why there is so much emphasis put on JESUS CHRIST in the bible, which further explains why God all of a sudden had to have a “son” (sun of God was turned to the son of God by Europeans, which is why every picture of Jesus has the sun behind his head. (Sun Ra, Sun of Ra (God)). The man you acknowledge as Jesus Christ of Nazareth was born in 4 BC; all of the above took place before that date. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv7Ne4nHLFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xylqq0GaGm4&t=323s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUVoAciJKOo&t=471s 1 Share
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Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by linearity: 10:04pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor: Pastors using the tithes mentioned before the law as justification for collecting tithe ‘by faith’ today don’t understand the scriptures... 1. Abramham only tithe once in his life time. Him paying tithe to Melchizedek was an individual act of worship, he did not do it again; neither was it recorded that, he passed on the instructions for his descendants to do it. It is therefore not an example for Christians to follow just as much as Christians of today, do not take their first born and attempt to offer it as sacrifice unto God, simply because Abramham did it. 2. The other time Abramham mentioned tithe was when he was about to go rescue lot...And he did not vow to give his possessions but the spoil of war. So, you can see the pattern here; he use tithe as another way of Thanksgiving and not as an obligated act. 3. Jacob did not pay tithe. In Gen 28; God in a dream told Jacob...”the land on which you lie I will give to you and your descendants”...this was what motivated Jacob in the same chapter to promise and say..”of all that you give me, I will surely give tenth back to you”. Jacob was talking about the land that God just promised to give him and not his personal future properties. As we know, Jacob was incapable of paying tithe and he did not redeem this tithe because he did not get the land as promised before he passed. Again, this is a one time promise by Jacob as a worship to God for promising to give him the land and a promise that Jacob did not keep...So, there is no example to follow here. 4. If tithing is mandatory as been preached today, Jacob would not have ‘vowed’ to give it. You don’t make a vow to give or do something that is required of you. Therefore, the tithe preached today must have been retrieved from the laws and these Preschers are skipping to mention the law, because they know that, their bases is not sound in the law; hence they point to Abramham, Melchizedek & Jacob. 2 Likes |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by GavelSlam: 10:05pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor: What was the colour of Jesus chariot? |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by VictorRomanov: 10:05pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
lonelydora: This got me laughing. You compare a colt in ancient time to a Bentley now? And you say someone who rides on a colt wants what's best for himself, even though no one has ridden on it. That's like saying some driving a brand new keke no one has entered before wants what's best for himself. Research and see how lowly a colt is. No Ruler, Emperor, King or Caeser would have a colt among the animals used for his chariot. Jesus even borrowed the colt and didn't own it. When you read something think deeply about it, not what someone else tells you. Google a colt so you'll know. 4 Likes |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by felixomor: 10:06pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Kennedyiheme: America has more churches and tithers than Nigeria They are world number one nation Whats your point? Our problem is failed leadership Thats the problem of Africa 1 Like |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by olabrad: 10:06pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
A Built2last:If you want to give to a church, give it as a donation, according to how the apostles did, and not in the form of tithe. Giving tithe is a practice you can't find in Christ. Why would you practice and promote a conduct you can't find in Christ if you are really a knowledgeable Christian? Give donation and don't call it tithe. Giving tithe is unchristian. You can sell your land/house/property and give to the church of Christ. It is approved, but don't call it a tithe. And it is morally wrong not to ask questions when pastors live flamboyant lifestyles. Even the scriptures emphasized living in moderation. A pastor that flies 4 private jets, is that a moderate lifestyle preached by the apostles? Asking them questions is never a sin; it is the morally right thing to do. |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by darsenalboy(m): 10:07pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
#free the sheeple |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by Kennedyiheme: 10:07pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
Nigerians... fools.. people in advanced countries think about infrastructures, science.. development ... oh yeah and I watched a documentary of people developing plying cars... Dubai develope finish una carry church go their.... see old men fighting and arguing about giving tithe... una mumu never do... that's why we are stagnant |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by Deathlezz: 10:08pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor:will you shut your reeking mouth filled with tobacco-stained teeth. Jesus was poor on earth! Lived simple, never own the luxurious means of transportation those days; donkey or horses. That’s the Bentley and Mercedes of today. Any pastor yapping about tithe when faith, holiness and salvation is all that matters is a thief. And you’re one. 2 Likes |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by olabrad: 10:08pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor: And you are one of those misinformed Christians that think America became best nation because they pay tithe? 1 Like |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by TrumpDonald2: 10:08pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor: Hahaha... You are so delusional. Can someone 'teleport' to someone else's mind? Where is the mind? That's your problem, you think you know but you are just empty. So empty that you don't even know that you are empty. You better stop being sentimental and learn. It's never too late. 2 Likes |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by felixomor: 10:08pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
linearity: The above you have said Doesn't change the fact that tithing existed before the law. Simple |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by Kennedyiheme: 10:09pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor:bro stop that shit.. I live here... it's nothing compared to Nigeria... majority of the population go to church ones in a month .. don't say what u don't know 5 Likes |
Re: Free The Sheeple Movement Got To Church Leaders In Nigeria. My Experience by TrumpDonald2: 10:10pm On Jan 22, 2018 |
felixomor:Yes I do. Great sense. Unlike you...quite unfortunate you can't get it through paying tithe. You can't buy it |
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