olabrad:


And you are one of those misinformed Christians that think America became best nation because they pay tithe?

The bolded is a product of your ignorance and assumption.
Not my speech

savagefinder:
the book of Deuteronomy 14 vs 22-29 is the reason for questioning tithes now.. Not the sentimental approach you are bringing.. The Bible is complete and it has shown us the way to tithe according to the law

VictorRomanov:



This got me laughing. You compare a colt in ancient time to a Bentley now? And you say someone who rides on a colt wants what's best for himself, even though no one has ridden on it. That's like saying some driving a brand new keke no one has entered before wants what's best for himself. Research and see how lowly a colt is. No Ruler, Emperor, King or Caeser would have a colt among the animals used for his chariot. Jesus even borrowed the colt and didn't own it. When you read something think deeply about it, not what someone else tells you. Google a colt so you'll know.

But wait o, you guys are atheists. How come you are very much interested in things pertaining to Christians?

Deathlezz:
[s]will you shut your reeking mouth filled with tobacco-stained teeth.

Jesus was poor on earth! Lived simple, never own the luxurious means of transportation those days; donkey or horses. That’s the Bentley and Mercedes of today.

Any pastor yapping about tithe when faith, holiness and salvation is all that matters is a thief. And you’re one[/s] .

Foooool

felixomor:

Do u know the meaning of "category" as used there?

What is the contextual meaning here?

TrumpDonald2:

Yes I do. Great sense. Unlike you...quite unfortunate you can't get it through paying tithe. You can't buy it

You have no sense

felixomor:

The bolded is a product of your ignorance and assumption.
Not my speech

Your comment is an offshoot of a disconnect between your brain, eyes and fingers, not my problem.

Kennedyiheme:
bro stop that shit.. I live here... it's nothing compared to Nigeria... majority of the population go to church ones in a month
.. don't say what u don't know

Counter the point i made or keep shut

olabrad:


Your comment is an offshoot of a disconnect between your brain, eyes and fingers, not my problem.

You dont have to sound like me and become foolish in the process.
Be yourself

felixomor:


Foooool

spineless spiritual bondsman.

TrumpDonald2:


[s]Hahaha... You are so delusional. Can someone 'teleport' to someone else's mind? Where is the mind? That's your problem, you think you know but you are just empty. So empty that you don't even know that you are empty. You better stop being sentimental and learn. It's never too late[/s].

Foooool

TribesNG:


So the past laws are now used against the recent laws right? What of Malachi 3:10 ? Malachi is years after Deuteronomy. It seems those Freeze has deceived are fools. They are sinners that never served God. If freeze open Verse say Nothing Like Hell Fire (Like Jehovah Witnesses) All of them go support am bcuz they are trying to force themselves to believe those lies cuz they know their current lifestyle will surely take them to Hell if Hell is real.

To you, for you.

2lateBiafra:



Eyya, PAIN JUST DEY PAIN THIS ONE!

uncircumcised vultures are not allowed on the thread

felixomor:


America has more churches and tithers than Nigeria
They are world number one nation


Whats your point?
Our problem is failed leadership
Thats the problem of Africa

Whaaaaaaaat?!!!!!!
I knew you were ignorant and daft but I never knew how big a daft you are. God forbid I quote you again on this topic. Never knew I've been wasting my data with such an ignoramus.

Deathlezz:
spineless spiritual bondsm .

Is that all?

TrumpDonald2:


[s]Whaaaaaaaat?!!!!!!
I knew you were ignorant and daft but I never knew how big a daft you are. God forbid I quote you again on this topic again. Never knew I've been wasting my data with such an ignoramus[/s].

Keep shut
Foooool

felixomor:


Is that all?

ask the demon stringing your fingers before I make a Lazarus out of you.

Mental millipede.

Deathlezz:
[s]ask the demon stringing your fingers before I make a Lazarus out of you.

Mental millipede[/s].

Is that all?
Fooool

Primesky:

Tithing is a biblical command neither the prophets nor Jesus condemn or abolish it. Believers must be very careful this period because the devil too can quote and preach the Bible albeit upside down.

The truth we run away from and refuse to tell ourselves now because it doesn't sound or appear comfortable, we will voluntarily tell it before God someday, but it might be too late. Be wise and avoid anti-Christ doctrines.

Brother stop saying what u cant defend with the bible..
let me ask u a honest question:
Why are u not offering animal sacrifice to God?

Built2last:
My pastor has spoken about tight in the last one week more than any other thing.
I just look at the faces of people. An invited pastor preached on it for one hour.

The pastor was not able to establish that Jesus nor any of His disciples collected tithe. Bible was clear that it was contribution the early church made to expand.

Those against tithe says it's one of the laws of the old testament but Abraham and Jacob paid tithe in faith over 400years before God made it a law through Moses. The new testament believer was urged to live by faith to enjoy Abraham's blessings on earth. We live by faith. Pay your tithe if you have and appreciate God for His faithfulness and leave the judgement of mismanagement to be of God. Remember the poor, give and support the poor.

Here is my opinion. Tithe is necessary but should not be mandatory like some will distribute tithe cards and monitor tithers.

I pay my tithe and will pay till I die. reason is simple. I am one of the few privileged Nigerians that has enough to do my basic needs and affect few lives around me. I have a few orphanage homes me and my family support often. I take my kids while we visit those homes to let them know that whatever they have is a Privilege and gift from God. The difference between them and the kids of those orphanage homes is the grace of God as no kid chose his parents before showing up on earth. I conveniently pay my tithe to help propagate the gospel. I don't want to show up in church and here my pastor is not around because he was looking for food for his family or searching for school fees for his kids. A pastor should concentrate and minister the word. Reason God refused the Levites to work in Israel till this day for those who practice mosaic law and Judaism. In my opinion, the 1k dropped in the offering basket won't do the do job enough.

What is my gross like many others with the pastors in Nigeria

Pastors frighten members with devourers if they dont pay tithe. They also tell you that the windows of heaven will not be opened to you if you don't pay tithe. It's a lie. Jesus is God's ultimate gift to humanity. In him is everything. When the Jesus died and that Curtain tore from bottom to top. It gave us access to the father for all things. There is no curse for not paying tithe.

Mission work and evangelism is dieing in Nigeria and the church is not paying attention to that enough.

The message of salvation, faith justice and mercy which Christ preached has been replaced with prosperity, fame and self gratification.

Pastors have gone mundane and flash your tithe in your very face with reckless abandon.

If Jesus or Paul the apostle managed a church in 21st century. They won't have Bentley, Ferrari, Lamborghini and several SUVs parked in their garage when members are hungry or many parts of the world have not heard the gospel.

A large population of church members in Nigeria are poor. The church is not paying enough attention to these poor people. The money spent in buying one Bentley will buy 3buses that will take care of people who may never have a car. The poor will always be among us Jesus said.

Pastors have become demigods and inaccessible. So much security around them that you dare not go close.

You build schools and your church members can't afford it. Jesus won't do that.

You can't differentiate when a pastor is moving from when politician is moving.

Missionaries around Nigeria are suffering and struggling to pay their children school fees while pastors leave large in luxury.

Their children school abroad ,they build schools here and members can't afford it.


The free the sheeple Movement is gaining ground because there is no financial accountability in many Churches.


If people can tell the good course their money is used for, we will not have people like Freeze questioning their actions.


Share your experience since the movement started

And what does Mathew 23:23 states?

felixomor:

U r a goat

I have followed your responses to people herein and as a Christian, I am ashamed of you.

No meanness
No tolerance

You are not a good publicity for what Christ represent.

Interesting15:



But wait o, you guys are atheists. How come you are very much interested in things pertaining to Christians?

O boy! When did me and you discuss that i am an atheist??. Does being a christian mean one would not have sense?


James says that God give wisdom (sense) to those who ask, without reproaching them. Ask and receive sense.

histemple:


I have followed your responses to people herein and as a Christian, I am ashamed of you.

No meanness
No tolerance

You are not a good publicity for what Christ represent.

Keep your opinions

While u do that,
Go and study the parable of the sheeps and the goats

savagefinder:
the book of Deuteronomy 14 vs 22-29 is the reason for questioning tithes now.. Not the sentimental approach you are bringing.. The Bible is complete and it has shown us the way to tithe according to the law

Are you now saying Pastors can't live a life of luxury.Just because they are Pastors doesn't mean they have to suffer.Seek first the kingdom of God and others will be added to u
This is their time to enjoy what they have sowed.Look at the life of Adeboye and others honest pastors, they went through a lot to get to where they are.
Why can't u the OP sell your car and give to the poor,before u eat fried rice with your family,why can't u think that others are suffering then u drink garri and give others or before buying something big,think about others and buy something small?

Anyone supporting tithing;

1) Does not know the difference between Judaism and Christianity clearly spelt out in Acts 15.

2) Does not understand God's definition of tithe clearly spelt out in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29


Per point 1, people out of confusion now practice Judeo-Christianity.

Per point 2, tithing as God demands it, cannot even be practiced today, hence Matthew 25 v 31-46 comes to play...


And for those shouting Matthew 23v23 in defence of tithing...please bear in mind that;

a) Jesus had not fulfilled the law at that point, even animal sacrifices were ongoing then...
b) Jesus was addressing the Pharisees (Judaism practitioners) and not His followers...
c) We are no longer under the era of the law...be it weightier matters or not...the Law no longer applies as Jesus has fulfilled its obligatory demands...

We need to remember our history and heritage. Not get caught up in silly movements.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=463L0sbXu34

felixomor:

Counter the point i made or keep shut

bro I just said u saying Nigeria has more churches than america is a big lie... besides your stupid point of government taking responsibility is pointless... did my the deciples collect donations and shared it among the people?

The missionaries that built cms grammar school made it free as at then.. instead of churches every where that doesn't add anything to the economy and growth of a nation why don't churches sacrifice their centres and used money to train entrepreneurs.. give labour encourage a hamdskill... as a church... if u choose to be stupid all your life... at least pity your offspring

IamtherealRita:
Trash

It would have being matured enough if you had kept your comment to yourself, instead you want to be noticed. May you receive sense this year.

Kennedyiheme:
bro I just said u saying Nigeria has more churches than america is a big lie... besides your stupid point of government taking responsibility is pointless... did my the deciples collect donations and shared it among the people?

The missionaries that built cms grammar school made it free as at then.. instead of churches every where that doesn't add anything to the economy and growth of a nation why don't churches sacrifice their centres and used money to train entrepreneurs.. give labour encourage a hamdskill... as a church... if u choose to be stupid all your life... at least pity your offspring

How many churches are in America?
Please expose your ignorance

felixomor:

Is that all?
Fooool

I taught you were going to quote me some scripture. You keep repeating same line like you repeat tithe in your Sunday sermon.

Lazy thief. Curse be you. Spiritual policeman.

May every tithe you have manipulatively collected ferry your hungry soul to the deepest chambers of hell.

OkaiCorne:
Anyone supporting tithing;

1) Does not know the difference between Judaism and Christianity clearly spelt out in Acts 15.

2) Does not understand God's definition of tithe clearly spelt out in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29


Per point 1, people out of confusion now practice Judeo-Christianity.

Per point 2, tithing as God demands it, cannot even be practiced today, hence Matthew 25 v 31-46 comes to play...


And for those shouting Matthew 23v23 in defence of tithing...please bear in mind that;

a) Jesus had not fulfilled the law at that point, even animal sacrifices were ongoing then...
b) Jesus was addressing the Pharisees (Judaism practitioners) and not His followers...
c) We are no longer under the era of the law...be it weightier matters or not...the Law no longer applies as Jesus has fulfilled its obligatory demands...

U very confused.
Just like freeze.

felixomor:


How many churches are in America?
Please expose your ignorance

bruh you don't find churches in every street or corner here in America... the street I stayed in Nigeria was filled with over 10 churches... y'all are playing yourselfs in that country... the day I saw the rest of the world.. I was amazed at the rate of stupidity in Nigeria.... just like the one you are displaying here... it's normal ride of with your buffonery

Deathlezz:
I [s]taught you were going to quote me some scripture. You keep repeating same line like you repeat tithe in your Sunday sermon.

Lazy thief. Curse be you. Spiritual policeman.

May every tithe you have manipulatively collected ferry your hungry soul to the deepest chambers of hell. [/s]

Is that all?
Be healed of your foolishness
Amen