@ otheloze

Ben you are yet to tell me about Eckankar's stand on the trinity

The trinity comprises of The Father, The Holy Spirit and The Son. In Eckankar The Father is the supreme God we know as the Sugmad. The Holy Spirit is the essence of God, the word through which all was made manifest. in Eckankar , the Holy Spirit is known as The ECK. The third part of the trinity is the son, who is the word made flesh that dwelt amongst men and is the channel for the love of God for all life. In Eckankar, The Son, is the Mahanta, The Living Eck Master. whereas in Christianity, The Son is Jesus Christ.

@ Cmanforall

Were you a lil scared when you started your spiritual journey

of course i was scared. scared and excited at the same time. 

,how long did you sing Hu before you noticed changes.

it took me up to 3 months. i actually had some experience after a week but i was scared to let the experience flow so i stopped. later my love for truth drove away the fear and i was able to leave my body and travel into the inner planes. it was quite fun when i became more relaxed about it and there was no fear again. the first change i noticed after 6 months was that i have lost all fear for death. i felt more free and could easily forgive people which i was finding very difficult before.

when you are with family & friends do you still sing it out loud.

no. you have to respect other people's space and not be a nuisance to them.
but when i am with friends and family who are Eckists, i have no qualms singing it out aloud because they enjoy it too.

A lot of people are out there seeking truth only to stumble to a wrong path,why can't these masters appear to everyone & help people find their way.

stumbling into a wrong path is all part of the experiences of life. it really doesn't matter. what matters is what have you learnt from the experience. and morever, once somebody is not ready for the next level of truth there is nothing you can do to make him/her to understand.
i can still remember my sister who was in secondary trying to teach me the logarithm table while i was in primary school. no matter how hard i tried to grasp it, it never made sense to me until i entered secondary school. that is how it is in spiritual matters. when the student is ready, the master appears.

  You got me with the racial one,I can't help but wonder why most masters are white & when I see so much hate towards my race it's hard to love but I try though.I read someplace that Eck masters are teaching at Eck temples in the inner planes.Eck temples,are their divisions in religions,race & language in the inner planes.if yes then I don't even know what to ask.

There are masters from all the races of the world. there are not mostly white masters. most masters choose to remain underground and unknown, working quietly behind the scenes. if you want to meet masters from your own race you can ask, you may be surprised at what you might see. Eck temples are not divided along any lines. the temples are actually open to all truth seekers no matter their religion or tribe. The Holy spirit is privy to your inner feelings and will bring to you a master that you are in harmony with.

  Another is reincarnation,I understand it but the point is difficult to grasp.I read about an Eckist who was skeptical about Eckankar,but when she joined she realised she was an Eckist in her previous lives.what if she became a terrorist bomber,only for karma to come with a sucker punch in the next life forgetting she was once an Eckist.what about you,for all we know you could be the next Boko haram leader in your next life  Grin, losing all the spiritual maturity you gained & karma waiting with an axe to chop you off in your next life.so I ask,has reincarnation helped in this scenario.why does everybody call it a school,in earth when you repeat a class,with residual knowledge & lil hardwork you'll pass the 2nd or 3rd time.But here your memory is wiped out & you are expected to do better,Chineke!well this is one school I hope to graduate from fast.

actually there is a residual knowledge. the slate is not entirely wiped clean. the only thing you take away with you from earth is your spiritual knowledge and awareness. it follows you from one life time to another. that is why i can not suddenly become a boko haram leader in another life time. in this life time i remembered a lot of the spiritual principles i had learnt in another life so i was just looking for the next step. that is how it is.

  Thanks,God bless you for the good work you are doing.

thanks too. the pleasure is all mine and i am glad to be of help

benodic:

@ otheloze

Every soul has a spiritual name which is given to it by God. that name is revealed to that soul when it reaches spiritual maturity and that name has power and authority.

Hmm nice! but how do you know a certain weird name or word you heard in some faint dream is actually your spiritual name?

, about kal; l didn't get what he's in charge of, does he use the negative aspect of the Eck while Jehova the positive?

@ chieveboy

Quote from: benodic on September 02, 2011, 09:39 PM
@ otheloze

Every soul has a spiritual name which is given to it by God. that name is revealed to that soul when it reaches spiritual maturity and that name has power and authority.

Hmm nice! but how do you know a certain weird name or word you heard in some faint dream is actually your spiritual name?

you have to sing the name and see the effects it has on you. if it increases your vibrations then it may just be it.

, about kal; l didn't get what he's in charge of, does he use the negative aspect of the Eck while Jehova the positive?

The lower universes comprises of 4 major planes. the Kal is the Negative power in charge of all of them. Jehovah is the representative of the Kal power in the 2nd plane or Astral plane which is the next plane immediately above the physical plane.

A seed for contemplation

Do everything, large or small, as if you were doing it for God alone. That means the task will be done with love, joy, and (don't forget) thoroughness

Harold Klemp
A Modern Prophet Answers Your Key Questions about Life, Book 2

The Law of Consciousness

The recognition, or realization, of the beingness of self or thing in thought, which manifests external life and form.

Harold Klemp
The Spiritual Laws of Life

A Seed for Contemplation

Before you can improve your life and find a measure of happiness, you must learn to do one thing every day out of pure love. That means, don’t expect anything in return—neither thanks nor happiness. Pick that occasion carefully. Then, whatever that one act of giving of yourself to someone else is, do it with all your heart.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

Hi benodic,please can you elaborate on your last post.do we wait for the situation to present itself or we go searching.how else can you sing Hu when respecting space.Thanks for everything,stay blessed.

@ Cmanforall

Hi benodic,please can you elaborate on your last post.do we wait for the situation to present itself or we go searching.

The choice is really up to the individual soul. if you are satisfied with what you know you can seat tight and wait. but if you still feel there is more you need to know and that there is still a void to fill, it then gives you the drive to go on searching to find the answers.

how else can you sing Hu when respecting space.

you can sing the HU inwardly within yourself without voicing it out.

Thanks too and remain blessed.

I have a big void and pray the holy spirit guides me with answers.But I meant your last contemplation seed,showing love and expecting nothing in return.It is a fantastic thing to do and the joy it gives can't be measured.Most times the situations present themselves and you are lead by the spirit.Your contemplation says everyday so I asked are we to go searching or move as the spirit leads(which might not happen everyday).thanks.

@ Cmanforall

I have a big void and pray the holy spirit guides me with answers.

patience is all it takes. Answers will be revealed to you as you are ready for them.

But I meant your last contemplation seed,showing love and expecting nothing in return.It is a fantastic thing to do and the joy it gives can't be measured.Most times the situations present themselves and you are lead by the spirit.Your contemplation says everyday so I asked are we to go searching or move as the spirit leads(which might not happen everyday).thanks.

that contemplation seed is actually a spiritual exercise. you really do not have to go searching for it because the situations are always around everyday. it only takes the awareness to see it.

the situations to do something for love present themselves at our homes, at our workplace, as we are going to work, at leisure etc. how do you open your awareness to them? in the morning after doing the spiritual exercises, ask God to make you a channel for Its Divine as you go about your day. or simply declare yourself a channel for the Holy Spirit. then go about your day. you will be amazed at the number of occasions that will present themselves for you to show love without asking for reward. your whole life and day becomes one whole giving of love to all that comes across your way.

A Seed for Contemplation

Those living the high spiritual life are the knowers, not believers. There is a world of difference between knowing and believing.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

Wow,worked like magic.This is what life should be about,this is what Jesus preached.Thanks,I really appreciate.

@ cmanforall

you are very welcome. Now you have finally figured it out. In real spiritual matters there is really no conflict. All there is, is love and only love. And that is what the masters have been trying to pass across to us. It is all a matter of understanding.

Enjoy your day and be grateful for God's blessings in your life.

A Seed for Contemplation

If you want to bring yourself closer to the Holy Spirit, say, "I am a vehicle for God and Divine Spirit." Then begin your day with joy. Know that everything is being accomplished as it should be.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@Eckists,who is the manhata or manhunter?white rabbit oyibo wey know strong kakaranka na him una they worship?i they shame 4 una.why oyibo know go call una black monkey.blacks nor get sense at all.na make i say na oyibo i go marry.shame on you all eckankar.you guys are worshiping a human being.who know manhunter 4 yankee as godman?manhata my foot.i be godwoman,bow down 2 worship me mumu nigerians.

A seed for contemplation.

Our body is a temple of God. We must take care of it because it is a house for soul.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@benodic since you have been contemplating,what have you achieve?

A Seed for Contemplation

When we are filled with love, the protection of Divine Spirit comes to help us in our daily lives.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

The reason for spiritual enlightenment is not to escape life, but to learn how to live it richly, to enjoy it.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

The Holy Spirit will give us all that we need. First we must learn to expect the best in life, and be willing to plan and work for it. Second, we need a clear mental picture of what we desire. Third, this picture is to be maintained constantly, with the certainty that Divine Spirit will supply any rightful desire. Fourth, there must be gratitude for every good thing received.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

Another quote

Hi Ben,since the Eck masters have always being around what did Jesus mean when he told the deciples of another comforter.Do you have seminars in Nigeria like they do in the states.thanks

@ Cmanforall

Hi Ben,since the Eck masters have always being around what did Jesus mean when he told the deciples of another comforter.

The comforter he was referring to is the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not a person at all. It is the Essence of God or God in expression, the life force, The ECK. it can be seen as a light and heard as a sound. that was why the disciples during the Pentecost saw a light like tongues of fire on each of their heads and heard the sound of a rushing wind. that is the manifestation of the Holy Spirit. It is the job of a spiritual master to link his students or disciples to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will then lead them to all truth.

Do you have seminars in Nigeria like they do in the states.thanks

of course we do. you can check the website eckankarnigeria.org for information on seminars in Nigeria.

thanks and remain blessed

A Seed for Contemplation

When you work with the fullness of heart, the golden heart, you find things are being done right you never realized were being done right. This occurs when there is balance and you have the perception to see the true value of things that come into your life.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A seed for contemplation

The very heart of the doctrine of ECK is love. This love is that divine essence which unites all reality and brings together all souls. The higher soul goes into the other worlds the greater this becoomes. Love is the bond which holds the world together. It is the living ECK, the spirit of the Sugmad.

Paul Twitchell
The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad (combined volume)
p. 126

A seed for contemplation

we must learn to be totally responsible for all our actions, our deeds, and our thoughts.

Harold Klemp
The language of Soul

A seed for Contemplation

mercy and compassion are two very important qualities, but love is the greatest of all

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When you work with the fullness of heart, the golden heart, you find things are being done right you never realized were being done right. This occurs when there is balance and you have the perception to see the true value of things that come into your life.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

As we give of ourselves, of our patience and love, to someone else who needs it more, something changes inside us. Something flows in, a flow of good feeling. A spiritual upliftment occurs both in us and in the person receiving the love.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Before we love God, we must love all things with the high kind of love, which is called charity. We become the best we can be through the discipline of divine love.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

You cannot measure spirituality by the number of bad habits you have or not. Nor by a certain number of experiences. Awareness of the moment and a joy for living can also be an indication of where you are spiritually.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Very often, we are confronted by people who want us to pray their way or colleagues who want us to think their way. We must remember to maintain our individual relationship with God. We have the shining light of Soul, and because we have it, we also have the wisdom of God.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul