I'm glad that many of us are beginning to wake up
from our slumber, I have confronted friends, men of God
about this issue and all i hear is that catholic and their priest don't know
how to interpret the Bible. I should come to their church, most of this
pastors hardly tell the truth on the pulpit, they simply tell us what we want to hear.
to put an end to this act, the government needs to create more jobs.

It has become the norm that pastors are very wealthy even if the congregation is starving.
what a disgrace.

First fruit offering is not by force, God love a cheerful giver,those of you who complain and criticizes churches,I advice you to watch it.

first fruit of ur labour, yes . but i can not find yearly or monthly there.i believe ur first fruit is when u started working,ur first salary

The final truth ladies and gentlemen. Many of our people do not know what they want.

DeeJay20:

But do the Pastors care about the Economic plight of their
menbers? I agree with you but most of these preachers
in Nigeria do not care,

Of cause they do
From this your question, it is obvious you are not a born again christian but an outsider or merely a church goer
If a pastor does not care for his congregation, why then is he pastoring
That is why they can confidently preach about not just giving but love e.t.c. because it
Have you not heard of what churches are doing like giving to the poor and needy, springing up schools, ministry of helps
Let me give you an example, in the local assembly where i worship, my pastor takes care of a lot of bills of the church members including medical, educational, house, feeding, the list is on and on and yet you ask if pastor's care about their congregation
What a question  

@demla,
your firstfruit could also be the best that you have, or the increase on your allowance probably during the year or your first income on a new job

somebody asked for firstfruits in the new testament

Ro 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Ro 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.
1Co 15:20 ¶ But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 16:15 I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)
Jas 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
Re 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. {redeemed: Gr. bought}
(KJV)

you can study for yourself

mabell:

Of cause they do
From this your question, it is obvious you are not a born again christian but an outsider or merely a church goer
If a pastor does not care for his congregation, why then is he pastoring
That is why they can confidently preach about not just giving but love e.t.c. because it
Have you not heard of what churches are doing like giving to the poor and needy, springing up schools, ministry of helps
Let me give you an example, in the local assembly where i worship, my pastor takes care of a lot of bills of the church members including medical, educational, house, feeding, the list is on and on and yet you ask if pastor's care about their congregation
What a question  

@demla,
your firstfruit could also be the best that you have, or the increase on your allowance probably during the year or your first income on a new job

Springing up schools:which ones?how many poor children can afford those schools
Helping the poor by giving then N200 and take N5000 from them with a treat

I think thisso call Churches should be investigated by EFCC, they are a disgrace to me (as a Christian and as a Nigerian) reading all tricks of milking the poor with an empty treat.

Churches are in other part of the world but only Nigerian founder churches are all but money, owo,égo,kudi.
God will judge u and the so call fake man of gods

hackney:

It has become the norm that pastors are very wealthy even if the congregation is starving.
what a disgrace.

FELA RIP said it but they said he is a mad man

Ur 1st fruit is ur entire 1st livestock, harvest or salary. We are suppose to give it all to God. Now since many people did not do this then, i.e when they earned their first salary, they can use the first salary of a year to do it. My understanding is that its suppose to be done ONLY ONCE in your life time. It's not a continuum

Where's Tudor plssssss? luv to read her comments

Am really sad at the way our Pastors are going today.The rate at which they are milking people is crazy.
When will people start reading the bible for themselves because it is clearly written in scriptures that the law has been done away with.Jesus christ is the fulfillment of the law, his death puts an end to all law including tithes and firstfruits.
There is no place in the new testament(after Jesus' death where we are asked to pay tithes and first fruits).
My 2cents

Ro 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Ro 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.
1Co 15:20 ¶ But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 16:15  I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)
Jas 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
Re 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. {redeemed: Gr. bought}
(KJV)[color=#000099][/color]
dont u think that those ppl who stupidly give out their january kini ko wld also look stupid to god himself,if its so why did they asked for money? why not,EWA yam,GARI AND CO,lets open our eyes aNd stop fooling ourselves in the name of pleasing the so called pastors,,UWA NKEA SEF

if u think it is easy 2convince people 2 part with their  =hardearned money,oya go open ya own church now !
see una dirty gutters wey una dey call mouth,if you dont it,God has used and will continue 2 use those things which seems foolish in ur carnally minded eyes 2 mesmerize ur so called intelligence,rationality and wisdom.
All u guys will do and can only do is 2 sit down in ur stale and stagnant mindsets and criticize Great men of valour who are preponderantly prospering d people of God by by perpetually propagating the kingdom of God here on earth,while they prosper more and more in leaps and bounds  

mabell:

somebody asked for firstfruits in the new testament

Ro 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Ro 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.
1Co 15:20 ¶ But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 16:15  I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)
Jas 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
Re 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. {redeemed: Gr. bought}
(KJV)

you can study for yourself

All your quotations above are out of context and nothing but a lie. To understand what a verse of a bible is saying you have to read in context, stop lifting bible verses to make a point.
When Paul refer to firstfruit of the spirit in Ro 8:23, he was never talking about money or giving but was talking about those of them that first receives the gifts of the holy spirit( pls read verse 15-30) to grasp what he is saying.
In Roman 16:5, Paul refer to Epaenetus as the first fruit of Achaia cos is one of their first disciples in that region when he preached the gospel there(Please read in context)
1 Cor 15: 20-30: Refering to Christ as the first fruit is simply talking about Christ being the first risen from the dead.
In James 1:18: This verse is talking about the born again man or the believer as the being the best of God's handiwork( You will need to read the amplified bible to understand this cos it is clearly written there and get the new king james version too).
There is no place in all the above verses where money was mention, firstfruits was just used to pass across the message because Paul was writing to the Jews.

people keep getting blinded by these religious teachers despite obvious reasons to express disbelieve in them and their sayings.

1 Timothy 6:10  

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

i don"t mind any one giving there jan salary 2 church as long as the church does not infringe on one of the foundations of the faith "CHOICE"

the link has be been removed

Is any church forcing anyone to bring firstfruit? Did anyone stop you from entering any church for not paying up? Is that the only thing your pastor threatened you with hell fire about? I see some people are bent on always criticising churches; good luck to you all

In the first month of the year, if you don't want to give first fruit, then either avoid going to church for that month, or go to another church where such demands are not made, start your own church. Simple.

i really don't understand what u guys are gripping about,if you don't believe it should be done,then don't do it,and stop trying to hinder others from receiving

their blessings.I personally haven't done it before,but that doesn't mean the practise is wrong,the whole gospel of christ is hinged on faith,as xtians we set

our eyes on things not yet seen,which is why whatsoever we believe for when we pray(whether blessings from givin of firstfruit or the grace to live a long

fruitful life),we believ we receive it,and eventually we do. When it comes to spiritual matters, you really need to be careful with your utterances

@thehomer, u made a good point worthy to be delibrated upon

saintdipo1:

My beloved brethren, do not be ignorant, it is written in the bible to pay first fruit, God can not force you to pay your first fruit, he just wants to use the avenue to bless his children. You can give your first-fruit in faith to any bible believing church and you will experience unprecedented changes in your finances, too much of cynicism has kept alot of people in Bondage, most of these pastors we are talking about, they are practicing what they are teaching and besides they have their own business they are running. So it is wrong for anyone for anyone to think all these pastors need money, although there are alot of wolves in the church, but you must open spiritual eyes to recognize them.

Where is the first fruit written in the new testament?

It is also written in the old testament that we should make burnt offerings to the Lord. When last did you build an altar and sacrifice a lamb?

All you gullible heathens!

its not by force even some of us dont pay tax but we want government to do alot please go according to the scriptures bring all your first fruits jesus is lord may we never expreince the development of life and let jesus drive the vehicle of your life so u become resourceful and be a blessing

For those people who say its by choice, what choice do you really have when your beloved pastor makes it clear that if you don't pay up these monies, you are destined for failure and eternal damnation?

If you're a Redeemed member and you're not too comfortable with handing over a tithe to the church every month, how much choice do you really have when your G.O tells you that if you do not pay tithes in the church, you're as good as a pariah?


Jesus Christ devoted several parables to people caring for the poor and the needy. He showed the rich blessings for those who involve themselves in Charity and charitable works. Yet pastors will much rather preach old testament doctrine on 'first fruits' than dwell on Charity.

JESUS ENCOURAGES THE ISSUE OF FIST FRUIT DONT SEPERATE THE WORD OF GOD PLEASE
http://www.firstfruitsteaching.com/
http://truthandspiritministries.com/pdfs/ffoffering.pdf
http://www.gotquestions.org/firstfruits-offering.html

Eveoeve:

What do u and your type stand to gain by opening these type of threads?! It seems u guys have made a career out of criticising churches and their pastors! If u dont like your church or pastor why not simply go somewhere else or is it by force to worship there? May God deliver u oh.

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@texazzpete

^^^^^^

In as much as you have a right of commenting on this poster page, i think that is the same  right he has to post this on the web to help this people that the pastors are trying to deceive of their money or are you one of the Secretary from one of this Churches?

Why not let people do things in their way, this just make me remember how one thief once keep to our village for a crusade and said those who have 20k should be on the first line,10k on the second line,und so on, i was among the Victim that was robbed on a bright day light that day,if i had read a tread like this before i wouldn't have be a victim, so all the pastor who ask for salary are all thieves, let people just do things from their mind and stop this pastor.