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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:11pm On Sep 04, 2013
kwame tut: Igbos STOP LYING.

In South Carolina IGBO MALES SLAVES avoided as they were deamed WEAK,LAZY,SUICIDAL. grin grin grin

I dont know about lazy, but they were suicidal.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:13pm On Sep 04, 2013
*Kails*:


Lol.@ the bolded.

Are you this ignorant?? You claim to be all-knowing on slave trade issues and a nairaland e-warrior for african americans yet you don't know this simple but true fact? You're not aware that not all Igbo people, and perhaps some other Nigerian tribes, sold off their own people willingly, and that some Igbo people captured others, especially children and teenagers, and sold them off for slavery?

Have you even read Olaudah Ekwuano's, the Igbo ex-slave, slave account story? Did you read how he was captured? His parents went out to the farm early in the morning and 2 grown-up male kidnappers jumped into their compound and kidnapped him and his sister. Isn't that an eye-opener for you?

Keep your mouths open and keep the ignorance spewing.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:18pm On Sep 04, 2013
*Kails*:


The point is it has nothing to do with youI

You do not determine what is fact or fiction because you want to spread this propaganda that we are mostly igbo. We have gone through toooo many times.

[b]The fact of the matter is this Igbos were sent in large bulk to the new world[/b]but many...im sorry...MOST died at sea due to murder, drowning, poor health or they committed suicide. Like the kru ppl of liberia, igbos were known to be suicidal.

Majority of the bodies STILL at the bottom of the atlantic (or what is left of them) are ppl who look like you who were sold by ppl looked like them. OK? Now scram.

Thats some igbo truth for you.

@Bold...the truth is gradually coming out. Lmao! grin
Keep hammering 'em liars until they have nothing to say but the truth! Lmao. grin

MOST died at sea due to murder, drowning, poor health or they committed suicide. Like the kru ppl of liberia, igbos were known to be suicidal.

You see how you keep propagating lies? Can you provide links to prove that most Igbo people died at sea? Common, is this some primary school play or something?

Majority of the bodies STILL at the bottom of the atlantic (or what is left of them) are ppl who look like you who were sold by ppl looked like them. OK? Now scram.

People that died since 1800, their bodies are still preserved since then? Are you that dumb, KAILS?
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:20pm On Sep 04, 2013
Who said it was only igbos who sold their own? I dont believe I said that at all. Now did I?

All regions where slavery happened have the same shame stamped permantly on their history...forever.

There were coons all over who sold their own, from countless tribes. Yeah yeah POWs but a lot more were sold. #fact.

But the point I am trying to make here is a coon like yourself who spent one day clowning on the plight of a group, decided to make it his mission the next day to prove those same folks came from his ppl. "we contributed too!" Lol

Again, why are you concerned?

Get back to cooning on the other thread and let kwame continue to educate us, uninterrupted please. tongue
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:21pm On Sep 04, 2013
Majority of the bodies STILL at the bottom of the atlantic (or what is left of them)

I believe that is what I said...and its a figure of speech dimwit.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:23pm On Sep 04, 2013
*Kails*:
Who said it was only igbos who sold their own? I dont believe I said that at all. Now did I?

All regions where slavery happened have the same shame stamped permantly on their history...forever.

There were coons all over who sold their own, from countless tribes. Yeah yeah POWs but a lot more were sold. #fact.

But the point I am trying to make here is a coon like yourself who spent one day clowning on the plight of a group, decided to make it his mission the next day to prove those same folks came from his ppl. "we contributed too!" Lol

Again, why are you concerned?

Get back to cooning on the other thread and let kwame continue to educate us, uninterrupted please. tongue

Why shouldn't I be concerned? I should be asking you that question, why are you concerned?

Off course I cooned on y'all. Y'all gotta get up on your feet and get busy instead of waiting on government services all day to get you food and water.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:23pm On Sep 04, 2013
im the dummy but this fool cant see hpw bad he got ethered.
So that means the higher number there were sold

two thing:

The higher number the coons (who did the selling from ONE CONCENTRATED AREA...FROM ONE TRIBE)
And two that it would make sense they would have a higher DEATH RATE considering the conditions of the ships.

And lastly, I said a HIGH NUMBER...NOT ALL..NOT MOST.

Learn to read properly.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:26pm On Sep 04, 2013
*Kails*:
Majority of the bodies STILL at the bottom of the atlantic (or what is left of them)

I believe that is what I said...and its a figure of speech dimwit.

Non-preserved dead bodies don't last for more than 6 months before they decay, and many years later the skeletons follow suit. 313 years later, you're still referring to remains as 'bodies'? How dumber could you get?
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:26pm On Sep 04, 2013
bigfrancis21:

Why shouldn't I be concerned? I should be asking you that question, why are you concerned?

Off course I cooned on y'all.


Lol. Nuff said.

#selfETHER

Y'all gotta get up on your feet and get busy instead of waiting on government services all day to get you food and water.

Like I said, the apple does not fall far from the tree AT ALL.
And second I dont know who "yall" is lol.

This lady here gotz a J.O.B with NO GOV.T assistance helping her at all. know dat! Lol
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:29pm On Sep 04, 2013
Azzwipe, I believe I said "orwhats left of them"....its supposed to evoke emotion and to humanize these ppl..to show these were once HUMANS.

Quit side tracking.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:31pm On Sep 04, 2013
*Kails*:
im the dummy but this fool cant see hpw bad he got ethered.
So that means the higher number there were sold

two thing:

The higher number the coons (who did the selling from ONE CONCENTRATED AREA...FROM ONE TRIBE)
And two that it would make sense they would have a higher DEATH RATE considering the conditions of the ships.

And lastly, I said a HIGH NUMBER...NOT ALL..NOT MOST.

Learn to read properly.

grin. I'm sorry, its too late to change that. My quote already captured your post, and you just did not write only 'most' but you wrote it in BOLD. Bam! tongue
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:33pm On Sep 04, 2013
*Kails*:


Lol. Nuff said.

#selfETHER



Like I said, the apple does not fall far from the tree AT ALL.
And second I dont know who "yall" is lol.

This lady here gotz a J.O.B with NO GOV.T assistance helping her at all. know dat! Lol

Coming from a troll who would rather propagate false lies and charts to fuel her beliefs. How do you expect me to believe that? Working class lady indeed. grin grin
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:34pm On Sep 04, 2013
bigfrancis21:

grin. I'm sorry, its too late to change that. My quote already captured your post, and you just did not write only 'most' but you wrote it in BOLD. Bam! tongue

Your stupidity is amazing.

Show me where i have changed anything...
And second show me where I said MAJORITY or MOST.

Dont worry I will wait.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:37pm On Sep 04, 2013
bigfrancis21:

Coming from a troll who would rather propagate false lies and charts to fuel her beliefs. How do you expect me to believe that? Working class lady indeed. grin grin

Troll never that.

Second if I could go through much of what I have on nairaland and in real life with ppl judging me for past issues FAR more serious than this cheesy debate and not give af what they think

....what makes YOU think I would even be concerned with your irrelevant opinion? Lol.

FOH. Who are you? Lol as far as I am concerned youre only font on a screen. Go ahead...think what ya wanna..
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:39pm On Sep 04, 2013
*Kails*:


Your stupidity is amazing.

Show me where i have changed anything...
And second show me where I said MAJORITY or MOST.

Dont worry I will wait.

*Kails*:


MOST died at sea due to murder, drowning, poor health or they committed suicide. Like the kru ppl of liberia, igbos were known to be suicidal.

Majority of the bodies STILL at the bottom of the atlantic (or what is left of them) are ppl who look like you who were sold by ppl looked like them. OK? Now scram.

Thats some igbo truth for you.

I just did, troll. wink
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:41pm On Sep 04, 2013
*Kails*:


Troll never that.

Second if I could go through much of what I have on nairaland and in real life with ppl judging me for past issues FAR more serious than this cheesy debate and not give af what they think

....what makes YOU think I would even be concerned with your irrelevant opinion? Lol.

FOH. Who are you? Lol as far as I am concerned youre only font on a screen. Go ahead...think what ya wanna..

I think I just struck a nerve! grin

Madam Chima! Where are you? Come help a sister out. She done fizzled out. Lmao. grin

@Bold...that's touching. cry
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:43pm On Sep 04, 2013
sir, those were dead ppl.

Meaning those were NOT our foreparents. They never survived to procreate which proves my point that they did not contribute to the majority of our genetic make up. They relate to our foreparents due to the struggle and how they were captured/sold unfornately their last memories were of them being betrayed. That is why I brought them up.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:44pm On Sep 04, 2013
bigfrancis21:

I think I just struck a nerve! grin

Madam Chima! Where are you? Come help a sister out. She done fizzled out. Lmao. grin

@Bold...that's touching. cry

lol.
Why are you so corny? I mean this is unreal.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:48pm On Sep 04, 2013
*Kails*:
sir, those were dead ppl.

Meaning those were NOT our foreparents. They never survived to procreate which proves my point that they did not contribute to the majority of our genetic make up. They relate to our foreparents due to the struggle and how they were captured/sold unfornately their last memories were of them being betrayed. That is why I brought them up.


Huh?? Kailsdummy just did it again! Lmao. Yet DNA testing results of quite a number of African Americans point to full/partial Igbo ancestry, to the extent that many of them have made ancestral journeys to Igboland? Do you choose to ignore these facts or are you just dumb??
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:49pm On Sep 04, 2013
This fool wants us to be igbo so damn bad grin its Pathetic!
Well you keep living in that there fantasy of yours dear.

I got real life and real like stuff to tend to wink
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 11:50pm On Sep 04, 2013
You talk shyt about a ppl and then want to claim them less than 24 hours later. Lol

Yo, you mad funny son. grin

Take care.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:55pm On Sep 04, 2013
*Kails*:
This fool wants us to be igbo so damn bad grin its Pathetic!
Well you keep living in that there fantasy of yours dear.

I got real life and real like stuff to tend to wink

Chai, Kails_Dumdum. That should have been your moniker.grin

I don't even want you guys to be too Igbo. I only speak about the Igbo contribution to the african american gene pool, which was quite substantial. I have never claimed African Americans to be 80% Igbo or more. Troll keeps misunderstanding me. grin
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 12:02am On Sep 05, 2013
*Kails*:
You talk shyt about a ppl and then want to claim them less than 24 hours later. Lol

Yo, you mad funny son. grin

Take care.

No matter the level of admixture, those who carry the Igbo gene will still be. Roger that. cool
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 12:03am On Sep 05, 2013
Nwa ochicha a gbafue.grin
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by kwametut: 10:36am On Sep 05, 2013
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by kwametut: 10:44am On Sep 05, 2013
@Kails

THE PROBLEM WITH U IGBOS IS READING.
Chambers apologised for his claim when he said Igbos constituted 60% of AA comunity. AFRICAN SLAVE TRADE RECORDS WERE BROUGHT FORWARD HE ACKNOWLDEGED THE IMPORTANCE OF BANTU,MANDE MAJORITY GROUPS IN AA HISTORY TO A LESSER EXTENT AKANS 3RD IMPORTANT GROUP.



MANY BOOKS SHOW IGBOS MALES WERE LAZY BUMS. grin grin
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MA Gomez - ‎Related articles
Central Africa,Bantus were in the majority in South Carolina and Georgia,Louisiana. While the Igbo/Biafran contribution to the British trade in slaves was dis- ... Littlefield explains that Africans who were 'small, lazy,slender, weak, and tended to comitt suicide.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by kwametut: 10:50am On Sep 05, 2013
@BigFrances and Igbo lIARS

HERE A BOOK BY AN AFRO AMERICAN PROF JOSEPH HOLLOWAY. His sources are from different slave trade records.

THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIANS IS READING, MOST RELY ON HEARSAY. GOSSIPPERS, U ASK THEM FOR THEIR SOURCE THEY START INSULTS. grin grin grin

AFRICANISMS IN AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE.

http://faculty.risd.edu/bcampbel/Templates/Templates/holloway.pdf
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Nobody: 10:59am On Sep 05, 2013
LOl kwame dear,
Read the thread

Kails is NOT igbo.
I'm not even nigerian (or african for that matter).
I will check out your links smiley
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by kwametut: 11:15am On Sep 05, 2013
Apologies my sista.
*Kails*:
LOl kwame dear,
Read the thread

Kails is NOT igbo.
I'm not even nigerian (or african for that matter).
I will check out your links smiley
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:18am On Sep 05, 2013
kwame tut: @Kails

THE PROBLEM WITH U IGBOS IS READING.
Chambers apologised for his claim when he said Igbos constituted 60% of AA comunity. AFRICAN SLAVE TRADE RECORDS WERE BROUGHT FORWARD HE ACKNOWLDEGED THE IMPORTANCE OF BANTU,MANDE MAJORITY GROUPS IN AA HISTORY TO A LESSER EXTENT AKANS 3RD IMPORTANT GROUP.



MANY BOOKS SHOW IGBOS MALES WERE LAZY BUMS. grin grin
by
MA Gomez - ‎Related articles
Central Africa,Bantus were in the majority in South Carolina and Georgia,Louisiana. While the Igbo/Biafran contribution to the British trade in slaves was dis- ... Littlefield explains that Africans who were 'small, lazy,slender, weak, and tended to comitt suicide.

Igbo people...lazy? You've just confirmed again that you are making fake facts up to fuel your anti-igbo sentiments. Even the average 10-year non-igbo Nigerian knows that the Igbo people are very hard working and 'hustlers'. Igbo males were preferred by many slave masters in certain areas because they were described as 'industrious, well-formed, knowledgeable in the field of agriculture, rugged and able to survive under harsh slave working conditions and the rugged terrain and insect-infested areas of plantations which the whites themselves couldn't survive in'. Apparently, you know nothing about the Igbo people and you choose to resort to anti-igbo propaganda to fuel your bias.

Kails has pointed out to you point blank that the Igbo people were not lazy, yes. But they were suicidal because they valued their pride. They rather died than stay alive and get subjected to the terrible slave conditions which whites put them under. They were also known for being rebellious, always attacking and rebelling against the inhuman slave conditions. They were not docile like Akan slaves who were manipulated anyhow as the white slave masters so wished. Igbo males were known to be rebellious and suicidal yet the white masters couldn't do without them - they kept returning to calabar and opobo ports to buy more and more Igbo slaves. The white masters valued them for their hardwork, and between a stated period, Igbo slaves were sold at the highest price per head than other slaves. The females were valued because they tended to be loyal, hardworking, good-looking, excellent at house chores and made good domestic servants. Igbo people generally were known for their high proportion of 'red'(light-skinned) population which other african tribes despised them for 'not being black enough' and ridiculed them, calling them 'red ibo'. Ever heard of that phrase before? 'Red Ibo'? I doubt you haven't.

Igbo slaves were rebellious because in Igboland it is believed that everyone is equal and no man should himself over another, hence the popular Igbo phrase, 'Igbo enwe eze', meaning 'Igbos have no kings'. That is why many sub groups never had kings. Instead a council of as many as 12 elders was formed for each village that saw to the affairs of the people.

If for nothing, the Igbo people were known for their bravery, pride and strength. As they would rather die and return to the afterlife peacefully than stay alive subjected to the hot irons and charcoals of their white slave masters. Nothing beats that, troll.

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Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by kwametut: 11:19am On Sep 05, 2013
@Kails
YOUR POST RINGS A BELL, AM SORRY NOW I CAN SEE U HAVE READ ALOT OF BOOKS ON SLAVE TRADE.

Yes most BIGHT OF BIAFRAN SLAVES DIED ON THEIR WAY TO THE NEW WORLD DUE TO WHAT THE EUROPEAN SLAVERS DUBBED AS "WILD WATERS OF THE BIGHT OF BIAFRA". Those who made it COMITTED SUICIDE, while few females were shagged by AKANS,BANTUS,MANDES. grin grin grin

*Kails*:


The point is it has nothing to do with youI

You do not determine what is fact or fiction because you want to spread this propaganda that we are mostly igbo. We have gone through toooo many times.

The fact of the matter is this Igbos were sent in large bulk to the new world but many...im sorry...MOST died at sea due to murder, drowning, poor health or they committed suicide. Like the kru ppl of liberia, igbos were known to be suicidal.

Majority of the bodies STILL at the bottom of the atlantic (or what is left of them) are ppl who look like you who were sold by ppl looked like them. OK? Now scram.

Thats some igbo truth for you.
Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by bigfrancis21: 11:20am On Sep 05, 2013
kwame tut: @BigFrances and Igbo lIARS

HERE A BOOK BY AN AFRO AMERICAN PROF JOSEPH HOLLOWAY. His sources are from different slave trade records.

THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIANS IS READING, MOST RELY ON HEARSAY. GOSSIPPERS, Gossips! U ASK THEM FOR THEIR SOURCE THEY START INSULTS. grin grin grin

AFRICANISMS IN AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURE.

http://faculty.risd.edu/bcampbel/Templates/Templates/holloway.pdf

You can barely even string a correct sentence or two together. grin grin

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