Josh090: Blyss, dt article you quoted up there is complete NONSENSE!!
What you and the writer probably don't know is that, the word 'igbo' has a meaning in yoruba and it means bush/forest and can be aptly used to refer to ppl living in the forest.
To suggest that ijebu-igbo is actually referring to igbo tribe is as ridiculous as it is insulting.
The pronouciation of those two words differ completely and in case of the yoruba word 'igbo' its meaning is known, but the word 'igbo' in igbo language cannot be defined, so, please, there are no igbo people in southwest Nigeria.
P.s am not concerned about who got shipped off the most or not, just [size=28pt]don't mix things up.[/size]

EXACTLY!
There are people who are truly interested in where they came from. It's wicked of some folks to try to bring tribalism and bias into their answers and mislead them. I remember one Igbo guy had me looking like a new fool posting that the brazilian town "Ibotirama" was named after the Igbo and it turned out that it's not even true. It was named by the native brazilians. SMGDH!!!

#epicEMBARRASSMENT! Is what I felt after getting cyber-slayed left and right!

this is the igbo-centric website that claims what bigfrancis says to be true.
and that the town i mentioned is named after igbos.

http://www.planetnana.co.il/igbos/pages/upslv.html

In early period 1716-1744 3/4 of Africans imported into Charleston were Angolans. In 1804-1807 Angolans were again the majority. The Angolan slaves were very numerous as described in: Readings in pre colonial African ? Theophile Obenge, karnak house publication ? 1995 page 18, tells us of the endurance of the Angolan slaves who were able to with stand the tough working conditions that often killed the whites.

Angolans provided a large percentage of Africans in the Americas. Thus the maximum security prison facility in Louisiana is called Angola. It was once the site of a slave plantation that was made up of Angolan slaves.

[size=18pt]All the tribes referred to were again, from other African countries, another attempt to conceal their Ibo identity.[/size] They were in fact, Ibos imported and their children born and raised in the Ibo slave colonies in those countries.

Interestingly enough, a large number of Angolans were documented, but not their tribal origin.

[size=18pt]Others such as Ashanti and Yoruba were mentioned, even though they were of Ibo origin. The Ibos imported directly from the Birth of Biafra, the area with mass population of Ibos, were simply omitted or vaguely mentioned.

Documentation of the Ibos in Sierra-Leone is so great that they are numbered as the largest of freed slaves after the Yoruba's.* Note: the Yoruba's, who were sold into slavery, were specifically the Egba Yoruba's[/size].

Egba is driven from Igba, Egbo, Eboe or Igbo. One of the largest Yoruba tribes is the Ijebu's. The Egbas are in actuality Ibos as the town Ijebu-Igbo is still written in its original form in the heart of Yoruba land.

--

The kingdom of Yoruba ? Robert Smith- 3rd edition Uni. of Wisconsin press, had it all documented.

The city Ebo still exists in Angola today. There are currently, two cities named Ibo and Ilha Ibo on the coast of Mozambique.

[size=18pt] A new study, suggests that approximately 85-90% of the so called African or black Americas[/size], and millions of others scattered across the Caribbean's and western Hemisphere are of Igbo/Ibo ancestry.

Jamaican history states that 60% of her population is of Ibo origin.
But we know that it goes a lot more than that.

culled from the igbocentric blog:

A good example of Ibo resistance movement was the famous Ibo and Angola resistance movement in Brazil that resulted in the establishment of independence Ibo republic of Palmers. A Republic that flourished for 45years before it was crushed by the white settlers. [size=18pt]This strong presence of Ibo's in Brazil accounts for the present day city known as Ibotirama, in Brazil[/size] - Time atlas of the world 10th comprehensive edition, page, and 115 k p 11.

#EPIClies.

according to them ALL OF AFRICAN DESCENDANTS IN THE WEST are Igbo!

Blyss:

Most of the few slaves taken from the area in which is today known as Cameroon, were Igbo. Remember that the lands in which occupy the south-western part of your nation now, were once Igbo lands prior to the Brits and Germans splitting it almost in two with the west part going to the Brits under their Nigerian Colony and the eastern part going to the Germans as part of their Cameroonian colony.

This combined area makes up the entire Bight of Bonny area, were over nearly 90% of the slaves taken from this area were Igbo, and in regard to Cameroon its self; well over 90% of the slaves taken from the lands in which now comprise that nation, came from the western lands in which were at the time part of the Igbo lands prior to them being snatch away and divided up by the Germans and British.

CAMEROONPRIDE: Joke of the century ,Igbo what? Entertain me oyooo where is Physichd when you need him.fam stop its pathetic, you didn't learn your lessons I must say. Igboland my foot [color=#006600][/color]

CAMEROONPRIDE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccRHzbxn0Ko

As you can see in this video several ports existed in actual Cameroon, --

odumchi:

This isn't true. The Igbo country exists entirely within the confines of Nigeria. In fact, Igboland doesn't even border Cameroon not to talk of being split up by the partition.

shymexx:

That's Igbocentrism for you.

Everything has to be Igbo.

*Kails*:

Hatian Revolution - believed to have been inspired by a Kongolese slave from Jamaica
but CARRIED OUT by slaves who were mostly Kongolese (although there were some
from Dahomey and other groups).

Language

The Georgia Sea Islands are the site of the unique Geechee and Gullah culture, which retains ethnic traditions from West Africa brought to America during the years of the Atlantic slave trade. Although elements of the culture persist, its survival is threatened by development on the islands.


Anthropologists and historians speculate but have not confirmed that the term Gullah —deemed the cultural name of the islanders—derived from any one of several African ethnicities or specific locations in Angola and on the Windward Coast. Other researchers speculate that Gullah and Geechee are borrowed words from any number of ethnic groups along the Windward Coast—such as Gola, Kissi, Mende, Temne, Twi, and Vai —that contributed to the creolization of the coastal culture in Georgia and South Carolina. Gullah is thought to be a shortened form of Angola, the name of the group first imported to the Carolinas during the early colonial period. Geechee, historically considered a negative word identifying Sea Islanders, became an acceptable term in light of contemporary evidence linking it to West Africa. Although the origins of the two words are not definitive, some enslaved Africans along the coast had names that were linked to the Kissi group, leading to speculation that the terms may also derive from that particular culture.

*Kails*:


just in case anybody asks for the source
https://www.nairaland.com/1263616/deadliest-black-african-warriors/2#15334920

here is where i correct myself...
boukman would most likely be sahelian...not kongolese

https://www.nairaland.com/1263616/deadliest-black-african-warriors/2#15337416

bigfrancis21:

You now quote nairaland as your link sources? When did nairaland become a verifiable link source? Lmao.

*Kails*:
^^ the only problem i have with that source is that they claimed it was the Geechee and Gullah people who founded freetown...that's not exactly true.

Free Jamaicans slaves returned there which is why krio sounds like a more heavily "africanized" version of Patois.

which is ALSO WHY KRIO SPEAKERS SAY UNA, bigfrancis .
Igbos did not go directly to Sierra Leone like you tried to claim

Adamskuty: this thing looks like an action film igbo this,igbo that!

bigfrancis21:

When did I ever claim Igbos were sent directly to SL? Do you read clearly?

@Bold...Oops! Kails is at it again!!

The Krio language is an offshoot of the language brought by the Nova Scotian Settlers from North America, Maroons from Jamaica, and the numerous liberated African slaves who settled in Sierra Leone.

All freed slaves—the Jamaican Maroons, African Americans, Nova Scotian Settlers, Sierra Leone Liberated Africans—influenced Krio, but the Jamaican Maroons, Nova Scotian Settlers, Igbo and Yoruba Liberated Africans were the most influential. The basic English structure of Krio is an offshoot of the English spoken by the Nova Scotians and Maroons, while some of the African words in Krio come from the Yoruba and Igbo languages spoken by the liberated Yoruba and Igbo.
Krio is distinct from Pidgin English as it is a language in its own right, with fixed grammatical structures and rules. Krio also draws extensively from other European languages, namely Portuguese and French, e.g. the Krio word gentri/gentree, which means wealth or to acquire wealth, is derived from the Old French word "gentry," and the Krio word pickin, which means child, comes from the Portuguese word "pequeno."

*Kails*:


since when did RETURNED SLAVES = going to sierra leone DIRECTLY from Nigeria sir?

bigfrancis21: Of course you'll clearly dodge the table statistics on the number of Igbo people shipped out and instead run off to quote nairaland sources as your back up.

Why don't you face those statistics and quit running around in circles?

bigfrancis21:

Are you this blind to see that I never said anything anywhere about direct or returnee Igbo slaves? Since you're good at quoting past posts, please kindly bring out my post where I mentioned it or inferred it. If you can't, then you've utterly disgraced yourself once more.

I'm waiting.

*Kails*:




cameroon's response:



A POST BY CAMEROON AFTER THEY CLAIMED THERE WERE NO PORTS IN CAMEROON


ODUMCHI AN IGBO JOINED IN AND SLAYED BLYSS

*Kails*:
YOU ACCUSE ME OF LYING WHEN YOU GOT CAUGHT SO MANY TIMES AND SLAYED BY MULTIPLE PPL?
YOU POSTED A PAPER WITH NO SOURCE TRYING TO CLAIM THE EGBA PEOPLE WERE IGBO!

BUT I AM THE LIAR?

*Kails*:


i got more stuff to post.
but honestly i am tired of this.

it just occurred to me that am not talking to a child here.
it's either he is PLAYING ignorant or he has serious ethno-centric issues.

either way ONLY HE can change that, i am putting up the gloves for now.

bigfrancis21:

That clearly shows you have a reading problem. The link I dropped is clearly in my post. Now you're accusing me of this?

Go get your glasses, click on this link and educate yourself.
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/22954470/1768011912/name/THE.rtf

Adamskuty: well! I can't make any meaningful contribution cos i know nothing concerning stuff like this

i believe anything i see,anything u say

*Kails*:


BECAUSE I SLAYED THAT ARGUMENT YESTERDAY, THE DAY BEFORE AND MONTHS AGO.
that's why.

bigfrancis21:

You call mere rantings slaying? Lmao. You should come up with counter evidence. And by counter evidence I mean verifiable facts and tables that counter the tables Dr. Chambers brought forward.

If you can't to that, then I'm sorry, you've lost again big time.

*Kails*:



[s]For your information, the first slaves were taken to south america and the caribbean.
Brazil is the best place to start when talking about the begining of the slave trade.

AND DID YOU SAY FULANIS ARE NOWHERE NEAR THE SHORES OF WEST AFRICA?
FO0L DID YOU KNOW THE PORTUGESE AND ARABS WERE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH THE AFRICAN CONTINENT DUE TO YEARS OF TRADE? HELLO!

#SALT-TRADE
#SPREADOFISLAM
#PORTUGUESE ENSLAVEMENT BY THE MOORS/ARABS IN NORTH AND WEST AFRICA
#TRANS-SAHARAN SLAVE TRADE

damn dude! first you did not know about two African pioneers and now you don't even know
about west africa's position in during the medieval periods.

You are such a fail. Yet you argue with me over my history. lol

THIS IS MY HISTORY...I DO THE RESEARCH, KNOW THAT!

You want proof? YOU GOT IT!

The first west african slaves were MUSLIM-FULANIS from Mauritania and the UPPER Guinea Coast (Norther Senegal)

[img]http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files./2008/06/fulanimap.jpg[/img]







culled from: http://www.historytoday.com/john-geipel/brazils-african-legacy



twenty years later the angolans come in much LARGER numbers





Fourty-fifty years later we see more west africans



hmm where is igbo?

you said you guys were the THIRD highest.
No doubt other groups sent to Brazil were not mentioned...why?
BECAUSE THE NUMBERS WERE NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT.

more proof of Fulani presence in Brazil



according to that same site it was the fulani and tribes from Kongo and even Mozambicans that were sent early on while other west african groups were sent to Brazil in bulk later.



WHEN DID I SAY THAT?!

SHOW ME WHERE DID I SAY THAT?
AND FURTHERMORE AS SUPPER AND H-STAR HAS PROVEN NO GROUP HAS HAD A DIRECT INFLUENCE ON THE SOUTHERNERS OF AA MUSIC CULTURE QUITE LIKE THE SAHELIANS.

SO NOW WHAT? YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT NUMBERS ALL THE TIME OR THE FACTS?!




I already SLAYED THIS above but i will repost it again...





@Bold...the tribe most popularly known to be rebellious was the Igbo tribe, and from geography Igbo people are located in West Africa not central africa. Where did you get that one from? Do you choose to ignore facts or make up facts at your own convenience?

There were SOME Igbo rebels no doubt but the MOST rebellious?
No sir, not at all.

Rebellions came from all groups and there were more than 100 all across the new world
is a few being the most infamous, none of them "mostly" Igbo ex:

Jamaican Maroons - mostly Akan
First Jamaican revolts - mostly Kongolese

Stono Rebellion - Kongolese

Hatian Revolution - believed to have been inspired by a Kongolese slave from Jamaica
but CARRIED OUT by slaves who were mostly Kongolese (although there were some
from Dahomey and other groups).

Rebellion of Palmares, Alagoas



^^central africans

Bahia rebellion in Brazil (1835) - Yoruba, Hausa, and fulani slaves
this changed the history of Brazil and eventually lead to the ending of slavery




brb...



Dude the word UNU is NOT used there.
You know it...then you come back with "wuna".

It may have the same roots but the word UNU itself is foreign to those places.
That is the point I made. No Bajan, Kittian nor Trini says "unu" in that form.



In yoruba, labalaba means moth/butterfly

in Jamaica it depends on the context but to the majority it means drama or gossip.

Though the meaning has changed the word itself was brought to my island by the Yoruba.





yet i not only came back with SOURCES and happen to be the product of these people, unlike yourself who is not from the new world but is a known igbo-centric who if left unchecked, would tell us in the diaspora that were are 70 - 80 percent Igbo . #rememberthat? [/s]