Kobojunkiee:
Why? So, if you were "unfairly" let go at your job, it would be a mistake for you to talk of it on social media?

Righteousness2:
The only Abnormal thing in the whole thing is the Pastor who came out on social media to Rant.

Pastors are regularly taken out and replaced from stations. It is worrisome that a Pastor comes out on social media to complain. I really can't understand the kind of things that happen in these Endtimes. I Believe someone misled the young man.

A Pastor who knows and understands his call, will not do this.
A Pastor who knows and Understands his position will invest himself more in the work of GOD and take his matter to GOD. Your calling does not end on Pulpit.

malcom1X:
What does bearing of fruits mean?

Is it winning souls for Christ or getting converts for your church?

Kobojunkie:
You are the one turning the Bible upside down. Salvation has nothing to do with people and Numbers. The New Covenant agreement that Jesus Christ represents is between God and the individual, not peoples or nations or groups of any kind.

Also Jesus Christ already hinted severally that only a few will make it out of a multitude who will attempt to enter into His Heaven. That there clearly spells out for you that it is indeed not about the numbers but about the quality of the candidates - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14

Do not confuse what you see of Christianity today with the Truth of God.

ediko5:
Even though I don't support church as a money making venture.

I don't see any sense where a pastor who claimed he was called by God coming to social media to complain that he has been laid off by his employees.

What happened to the Bible portions he has been preaching to his members ?

If he wasn't laid off and was reaping bountifully from the church, he will be one of the first to lay curses on any one or group who dares to criticize the activities of his church

If truly God called him, he should have taken his matter to God to greater promotion.

What happened to "Sorrow may last for the night but joys cometh in the morning"?

What happened to "what God cannot do doesn't exist" ?

So he was preaching what he doesn't practice or believe all this while ?

lomprico:


the truth is that everybody on this planet is a hypocrite and Africans /Nigerians are worse off. Buhari and NBC just told news houses not to report any activity about bandits and terrorists and we all condemned them. Now members of LFC wants to hush d sack of these pastors, imagine that dude saying d sacked pastor should not have gone to social media. what is d difference between him and NBC boss?

fof1:

Winning or Converting Souls for Christ and His Kingdom,Pls. Get understanding... The Church is a Called Out People for the Purpose of Christ Mandate and Heaven's Goals.

fof1:



Winning or Converting Souls for Christ and His Kingdom,Pls. Get understanding... The Church is a Called Out People for the Purpose of Christ Mandate and Heaven's Goals.

Techguy96:

Christianity will not survive the next one thousand yrs, while Islam 1500 yrs. And both religion will gradually die off.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ dd not send you to win or convert any souls though. He sent you out to preach His Gospel to the world.

Tobechuckwu:

I'm sorry to say this...
U don't know the scripture at all nd Ur Christianity is questionable.
Matt 28vs 18- 19 says Go ye therefore nd teach all nations ( which is people the Bible is referring to here).
........

These all show that the salvation of souls has to do with numbers.

dairykidd:

Are u daring God?

seborrhic:

You had to quote the whole post just to type this rubbish.
Some of you people can be so irritating.

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] A religion that is more than 2000 years old is what is about to die? Baba, your mumu no get part 2

stagger:
What is the use of an action without a result?

Do you send soldiers to battle to simply shoot bullets? How is their performance measured?

Gambit23:


2000 years?

Let's assume its 2000 years old, Fact is that we have other religions far older than 2000 years. 2000 years for christianity makes it a young religion.

OrdinaryNigeria:


How do u expect him to feed his family?
Even primary school teacher has pension.

This wil discourage many from being pastor

malcom1X:
What does bearing of fruits mean?

Is it winning souls for Christ or getting converts for your church?

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] You've not made any point baba. So go and sleep

stagger:


Nobody is hushing anything. The pastor himself is free to go to any of the agencies or the courts to address his sack as "pastor-in-charge" and not as pastor of the church.

People think just anybody should be a pastor. A pastor cannot give what he does not have. How can he transform lives in a community when he himself is empty?

He should open his own church...if it is that easy.

Vireani79:


Brother I am also a member of christ embassy alakija ojo

We grew the church from the scratch with pastor Tony ikoku and later his wife late pastor doyin may her soul rest in peace

Now I read all u said that's it's not because of tithe and offering
U talked about how u go out to win souls and bring them to church
Bros let's get this straight
The going out thingy in Christ embassy isn't about winning souls
We only most times 9 out of 10 just invite them and collect their data

Hardly do we really minister to them cos its just a short time every Sunday morning and yes we miss services
So it's not something I am not used to
During the days of pastor Tony way back 2002
We really did win souls
We go to thier houses
We sit with them
We share our clothes
We share our money
We find solutions for them
Jobs ...clothes ..food ...rent ...even health issues
Now when u do that
U truly win this people and they too begin to win people
That's was how Christ embassy ojo was built till it became a mighty church

In the days of sister lilly, dem no born u well not to bring ur report
U go win that soul

U go bring offering
U go bring seeds
Why cos u are made to be involved in the lives of these people u meet

Now saying that how much them wan bring is degrading becos many of us including me
When I came to Christ embassy ojo
I was poor
Broke
Naked

But after I began to worship there
I began to have
I made money and even travelled out to London
Many like me I saw in the UK from same Christ embassy ojo

So it has nothing to do with how much dem wan bring
Cos when God's word hit u right
Things will be right in ur life

But today how is the same ojo
No one cares
Church is now a fashion show
People only care if u have
Look into that brothers/ sisters eyes and say u love him
Na only tongue e dey

Now back to this topic
The pastors are sent to remote areas
And yes they are to win souls.
But also remember these areas have their traditional churches
From cele to c&s to Methodist to basptist to even their traditional worship and even Islam
It's not like Lagos or the urban areas
It's harder there
When I was in illogbo eremi along badagary express way
When I lost all I had after I came back from the UK
I joined the church there
Common giving of 10,000 naira was a challenge for the church
Cos people over there are super poor

Now this is within Lagos
And the pastor there must give report to the church in ijaniki
He has to show offerings which most times it's not up to 5k
Giving to various ministry departments is another issue
Now imagine inside Lagos ohhh
Now think of ekiti and all these predominantly farming communities

Bros church growth is all encompassing
Membership strength
Tithes and offerings
And seeds

The main church was footing the bills of the pastor and the church rent
But brother the people he was meeting no agree to change church
Also remember the covid lock down made many eyes to wide as many pastors didn't help.
And people understood that all man for himself
A lot of us don't do church anymore
I hardly go to church
Even if I go
These days pastor go they preach I go dey play candy crush

Jesus Christ said a time is coming where people will neither go to the mountains or the temples ( church) but those that worship God will worship him in Spirit and in truth.

That time is now

Col 2 :17 says the things u see are a shadow of the things to come

Our churches messed up
They didn't take advantage of the desire of the souls of the people
They focused mainly on the gospel of Materialism which many termed prosperity

The issue was more about tithe and offerings
U can cover it up all u want but many believers like u can see through the bull shit

Tobechuckwu:


Is it a ministry that has over 35,000 workers they pay monthly u are talking about?
What's his work if he can't go out to win souls when the founder himself goes out to win soul.

Obadiahibrahim1:
If he is called he would have known how to go about the whole thing. The media didn't call you so why report to the media. What a generation.

CrestMan:



My counsel to you: Having begun in the Spirit, don't end in the flesh just like the Galatian Christians in Gal chapter 3.

I also advise you try and reach out to Pastor Tony since you had great memories being under him.

I noted in your write up that you said you lost all you had when you returned from UK, I pray that things gets even better for you.

Remember, never throw away your ladder to the top after climbing, you may need that same ladder to climb even further.

God bless you


Based on the main topic: The dismissed Pastor's action by seeking for attention from "outside" is proof positive he was never with them at heart! All he has achieved is for some anti- church progress to dance with estacy over his matter. He just showed he was an outsider pretending to be inside neither is he remorseful and willing to learn. I believe the church will look into the cases of others who are willing to be rebuked and corrected.

Vireani79:

I am not saying he was with them totally at heart but it also didn't negate the fact that the church didn't handle this well
A demotion and bringing in someone new while these pastors under study would have been better

For the connection
We both know once a pastor is gone u can't really see them again
But I was in the last healing school session with pastor Chris
I am getting better trust me
I just don't do church anymore

malcom1X:



Did you not read the part were he was fired and told to return all properties of the church?

How do you want him to invest more in God's work again?