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Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by chatinent: 2:09pm On Sep 05, 2021
Lollittaa:

not everything is a competition, debate or proving a point. You need the Holy Spirit in your life. And one of the signs that He's around is a change of vocabulary.

Holy spirit doesn't make one act or speak stupidly.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Skseries: 2:10pm On Sep 05, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] He's a JW and the last time I checked those people are not in the same league with those of us who accept the universal truth regarding God and His Christ
universal truth? So in ur words what is generally accepted is the truth right? Lol. I doubt agree with JW doctrine but that doesn't mean all they say is wrong and all the universal truth like u called it is right. Mayb if we all listen more than we talk we will learn
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 2:12pm On Sep 05, 2021
Lollittaa:

not everything is a competition, debate or proving a point. You need the Holy Spirit in your life. And one of the signs that He's around is a change of vocabulary.
There is a problem here with this here belief to begin with. undecided

The one who is the Holy Spirit is God's own Spirit, who serves is the seal of the New Covenant. God hates an unholiness, that is riddled with sin and so His Spirit cannot inhabit a filthy vessel..a vessel still struggling with sin. Only those who are become Perfect/Holy are acceptable vessels for the Holy Spirit to dwell in and these are the ones who are Sons of God, those who have overcome slavery to sin through continual submission to and obedience of the commandments and teachings of Jesus Christ - the Truth of God - John 8 vs 31 - 44 undecided

According to Jesus Christ, this In Mark 16 vs 15 - 17, it is those who believe, not those who are free from sin(Sons of God) that that sign of even speaking speaking tongues shall follow. Hence it is wrong to assume that all those who speak in tongues are filled with the Holy Spirit of God as that implies they are Holy vessels sealed by God for His Kingdom, which is not the case. undecided
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Ammishaddai: 2:15pm On Sep 05, 2021
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Skseries:
universal truth? So in ur words what is generally accepted is the truth right? Lol. I doubt agree with JW doctrine but that doesn't mean all they say is wrong and all the universal truth like u called it is right. Mayb if we all listen more than we talk we will learn
[/s] JWs don't teach what the bible says . Rather , they insert what Charles Russell Taze says, and throw away what the bible says about itself . So they can't be part of the universal truth that's accepted by Christian's everywhere .
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Nobody: 2:18pm On Sep 05, 2021
chatinent:


Holy spirit doesn't make one act or speak stupidly.
Unfortunately you're not the only one who feels that way. The ways of God are foolishness to those who think themselves wise. I know if the Lord wills, someday, He will draw you closer to Himself.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 2:19pm On Sep 05, 2021
Dubembiafra:
Speaking in tongues is different from praying in tongues, the apostles were the only people that spoke in tongues.
Speaking in tongues is when you use a certain language to speak and every tribe will understand you,
What we so now is praying in tongues because nobody understands you or the language you are using.
That is not true at all! According to Jesus Christ, it is given as a sign to those who believe. undecided
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 2:22pm On Sep 05, 2021
Hier:
Speaking in tongues is a gift for everyone
Joel 2:28
You can only receive it when you pray for it or someone lays hands on you Acts 19:1-8
No one can teach, it is the Holy Spirit that puts those words in the mouth of the speaker
Acts 2:4
1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
So you are suggesting that the reason the apostles and all those in that upper room spoke tongues less than 2 months after Jesus Christ's death was because they asked for it or had someone lay hands on them? undecided
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Skseries: 2:22pm On Sep 05, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] JWs don't teach what the bible says . Rather , they insert what Charles Russell Taze says, and throw away what the bible says about itself . So they can't be part of the universal truth that's accepted by Christian's everywhere .

okay ma, sir
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by cooooooks(m): 2:23pm On Sep 05, 2021
So it's God fault if one isn't Christian? smiley

Lollittaa:

Unfortunately you're not the only one who feels that way. The ways of God are foolishness to those who think themselves wise. I know if the Lord wills, someday, He will draw you closer to Himself.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by imagrg(m): 2:26pm On Sep 05, 2021
That is the bitter truth.
But many would condemn it outright.
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chatinent:


Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 2:28pm On Sep 05, 2021
sledge001:
Eya! Kpele ko.
There is no point explaining anything to you because you have made up your mind not to deviate from what you think you know.
Moreover, things if the spirit are foolishness to the carnal mind"
What things of the Spirit? Stop gobbling up the lies that men vomit and feed you with. The same God who created your brain expects you to use that very brain in understanding His Truth. undecided

Jesus Christ told you that to understand the things of the Kingdom of God, you only need to use use understanding you have, and more understanding will be given to you. Those who refuse to use the understanding they have will have even the understanding they previously had taken from them - Matthew 13 vs 10 - 13 and then Matthew 25 vs 14-30 undecided
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by LordReed(m): 2:29pm On Sep 05, 2021
Lollittaa:

Euphoria you say? Then you've never experienced the raw power of God. If I wanted euphoria, a dopamine or an adrenaline release, I'd watch an action movie.
I won't sit talking to God hours on end. It's never about euphoria. Jesus loves you.

What is the raw power of god?
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by imagrg(m): 2:29pm On Sep 05, 2021
That is the bitter truth.
But many would condemn it outright.
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chatinent:


Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 2:30pm On Sep 05, 2021
nkpommpko:
So all this churches are faking it then. Since everyone agrees it is a gift, can't be learnt.
YES
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by NamelessOGBENI(m): 2:31pm On Sep 05, 2021
Cudeze4:
I'm not in anyway trying to contradict anybody, but as far as i know. Speaking in tougue is the gift of the Holy Spirit. It can't be learned.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 2:31pm On Sep 05, 2021
ogastone:
A gift from God the Holy Spirit.
Many people fakes it.
Jesus Christ never said it is a sign of the Holy Spirit but instead that it is a sign that one believes. undecided
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Nobody: 2:33pm On Sep 05, 2021
cooooooks:
So it's God fault if one isn't Christian? smiley

ask Him. Not me. I can't tell. Jesus was given for all. But the Father can choose to draw whomever He will to himself. That's why some people don't get preached to. But they get saved unconventionally. smiley
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 2:33pm On Sep 05, 2021
anochuko01:
Both... You're given as a gift, and as you keep engaging it, it becomes like a second language to you.

NB:
No nobody "teaches" you how to speak in tongues.
Where did you get this idea that it becomes like a second language from? undecided

You don't even have the ability to control the speaking of this language, let alone full understanding of what it is you are saying...for all you care, some power remote controls you into speaking it whenever He desires....so how does it become a second language to you? undecided
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 2:34pm On Sep 05, 2021
ManOfCompetence:

Sorry to ask.....Is speaking in tongues different from praying in the spirit
According to Paul, praying in spirit is a groaning sound. undecided
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Nobody: 2:36pm On Sep 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
According to Paul, praying in spirit is a groaning sound. undecided
then why did he say "I speak in tongues more than you all" 1 cor 14:18
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 2:37pm On Sep 05, 2021
Akuruoulo:

But when they were speaking in tongues it was only understood by the 12 of them , and no outsider understood it.
That's communication with the HOLY SPIRIT and no other man should understand it
This isn't true at all. undecided

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Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by natanyin: 2:49pm On Sep 05, 2021
May God bless you my brother!!!!!
chatinent:


Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by akdjr(m): 2:51pm On Sep 05, 2021
Pure rubbish!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Danisaint112(m): 2:55pm On Sep 05, 2021
As far as I'm concerned 99% of people who speak in tongue fodge it. A pure fact. They speak a language only them understand.

The thing is this people called men of God has brainwashed people till the extent we see lies as truth. Very pathetic and ridiculous.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by chatinent: 3:13pm On Sep 05, 2021
Lollittaa:

Unfortunately you're not the only one who feels that way. The ways of God are foolishness to those who think themselves wise. I know if the Lord wills, someday, He will draw you closer to Himself.

I don't mind if you continue to be decieved. Have a nice century.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 3:16pm On Sep 05, 2021
Lollittaa:

then why did he say "I speak in tongues more than you all" 1 cor 14:18
I don't know what he meant there since he does not explain how he arrived as his speaking in tongues being greater than that of any of the others he wrote to there. He may have developed a scientific method of measuring these things that was not revealed to us in any of his letters. undecided
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by saaron(m): 3:19pm On Sep 05, 2021
chatinent:


Yes, it is the gift of the Holy Spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.
Well said.
Pls always remember to put first alphabets of words such as the "Holy Spirit" in capital letters. Not like this "holy spirit."
The Holy Spirit is not on the same level or category with spirit. The Spirit of God is superior to every spirit in existence.
God bless you.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by chatinent: 3:21pm On Sep 05, 2021
What came over you was what you heard in your head.

It was what you felt should happen.

It wasn't the holy spirit.

Have a nice century.

Mercychen:
It is a gift according to the Bible. Not something you learn how to do.

Some denominations do claim it can be learned but that's not true because that was not how the people of old got ( through Learning). They got it in an instant and that was how I got mine too.

So anybody telling you to say as I say. That is... Trying to teach you some patterned syllables and claiming it's speaking in tongues is fake!

Mine came instantly and even when I tried to suppress it because I felt I was sounding weird, it didn't go back or stop. Rather with every new wave I felt it flow effortlessly.

Till now, if I start and maybe I want to switch back to english maybe to pour out that thing bothering me in English language so I'll know I've said that part, and the wave is still there, the tongue will not give way for English until I've exhausted that session.
So it's something you can't really control. It's the power of God. It controls you.

Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Originalsly: 3:38pm On Sep 05, 2021
When someone speaks in tongues ... isn't he speaking in another language? When someone speaks in another language ... isn't he speaking to someone who understands that language? If the person doesn't understand that language should the one stop speaking or continue only if he has an interpreter? ... or he should continue speaking? A Hausa man comes up to you an Igbo and starts speaking in Hausa (tongues) which you don't understand .... should he continue without an interpreter? Isn't the Bible clear on that .... should someone be speaking in tongues (a different language) he should have an interpreter or basically ehmmm..... sit his ass down and shut up? So why are these pastors and the rest be busy explaining what is clearly written? When people be all speaking crazy in tongues .... who is understanding?.... who is interpreting? .... ask that and you will hear crazy explanations. Speaking in tongues is a gift. Did the Disciples go to language school?.... did they remain local? ..or they travelled far and wide ... not sightseeing... but preaching? .... as they travelled weren't they into areas that speak different dialects? ... and didn't they had to speak in the local dialect?... so when did they find time to learn it well enough to preach? Pastors be up on the pulpit spitting in tongues for yearssss and to date not one in the congregation have a clue what he be saying. Why?... because no one can understand gibberish.... ever. So Op.... the lady is basically saying to you ... let me teach you how to speak gibberish.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by nuelldido(m): 3:44pm On Sep 05, 2021
chatinent:


Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.

Yes it's a gift of the Holy Ghost.
But your explanation is wrong sir....
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by FRANKOSKI(m): 3:47pm On Sep 05, 2021
IT'S GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BUT SOME PEOPLE FAKE IT. ONE THING IS CLEAR "God knows his people.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by nuelldido(m): 3:49pm On Sep 05, 2021
On a subject like tongues... Go get good books and study. I recommend TONGUE BEYOND THE UPPER ROOM BY KENNETH HAGIN

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