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Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by chatinent: 12:39pm On Sep 05, 2021
Akuruoulo:

But when they were speaking in tongues it was only understood by the 12 of them , and no outsider understood it.
That's communication with the HOLY SPIRIT and no other man should understand it

Sorry.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Sheggy13(m): 12:40pm On Sep 05, 2021
chatinent:
Your point is?

I'm trying to let you realise that the gift of speaking in tongues doesn't have to be a human spoken language like Igbo, Yoruba, Chinese etc as you're claiming on this thread. That's why I quoted 1 Corinthians 14:2.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Skseries: 12:42pm On Sep 05, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Irrelevant comment to the topic
what makes what he said irrelevant and urs relevant?
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by chatinent: 12:43pm On Sep 05, 2021
Sheggy13:

I've asked you to explain what Apostle Paul means in 1 Corinthians 14:2 but you're running away from that. I thought you're very confident with your explanation of the gift of speaking in tongues. You should pray earnestly for the Holy Spirit baptism as someone advised you instead of condemning what is a mystery to you.

" For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him ; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries."

Mystery?

I've heard that a couple of times from the numerous preacher's wanting to deceive people. I have made my points above.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by chatinent: 12:44pm On Sep 05, 2021
Sheggy13:

I'm trying to let you realise that the gift of speaking in tongues doesn't have to be a human spoken language like Igbo, Yoruba, Chinese etc as you're claiming on this thread. That's why I quoted 1 Corinthians 14:2.

What are the motives of the gibberish spoken today?
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by stanleysmart: 12:45pm On Sep 05, 2021
Is a gift from the Holy Spirit is not what you can learn
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Skseries: 12:45pm On Sep 05, 2021
Ammishaddai:
As far as this thread is concerned, it ain't relevant. And besides, you're a JW and speaking in tongues doesn't happen in your occultic gatherings because you chaps reject the entire concept . Now move along
so now u will call ur self a true believer, a real christian right? Who are u to judge their religion? Who are u to day a religion is the right one or the wrong one, is it not we Nigerians that are born into a religion and automatically adopt it? Lol we all are just hypocrite sha
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Skseries: 12:47pm On Sep 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
How do you know I don't speak in tongues? undecided

First and foremost, Jesus Christ never said only those who have the Holy Spirit can speak in tongues. No, He said it is a sign of those who believe and last I checked not all those who believe have the Spirit of God - only those who are Holy can house the Spirit of God aka Holy Spirit. undecided

Second, how do you know I don't have the Holy Spirit living inside of me? undecided
he or she is one of those self acclaimed righteous christian, it's either their way or no other way
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by seyicodes(m): 12:49pm On Sep 05, 2021
Speaking in tongue na scam
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Ammishaddai: 12:53pm On Sep 05, 2021
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Skseries:
what makes what he said irrelevant and urs relevant?
[/s] He's a JW and the last time I checked those people are not in the same league with those of us who accept the universal truth regarding God and His Christ
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by WaffenSS(m): 12:54pm On Sep 05, 2021
It's a form of mental illness, except where it's faked by conmen pastors to shock and awe their gullible flock of mindless sheep.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Ammishaddai: 12:56pm On Sep 05, 2021
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Skseries:
so now u will call ur self a true believer, a real christian right? Who are u to judge their religion? Who are u to day a religion is the right one or the wrong one, is it not we Nigerians that are born into a religion and automatically adopt it? Lol we all are just hypocrite sha
[/s] I love the way you comfort yourself with the false ideas regarding religious movements like JWs and Mormons . But kwantinue. We know that people like you don't really stand for anything other " live and let live " foolishness
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by AnanseK(m): 1:02pm On Sep 05, 2021
Cudeze4:

So you are saying that speaking in tougues should be learned? I won't blame you much though it must be what you were brought up with.

There are schools for Yahoo Yahoo boys, same goes with the con-men Pastors. She can teach the trick of speaking in tongues to all the 419 Pastors that have no contact whatsoever with the Holy Spirit. And they are the majority.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by olutj: 1:05pm On Sep 05, 2021
Speaking in tongues is a gift. It is one of the nine (9) gifts of the Holy Spirit to the church left behind by our Lord Jesus Christ.
It is an unction. It is inspired by the Holy Spirit.
There are other gifts of the Spirit amongst is Interpretation of Tongues.

chatinent:


Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.

Hello friend, what was done in antiquity is that the interpretation of what was spoken in tongues follows almost immediately or simultaneously with the spoken tongues itself. Thereby, locals were able to understand and comprehend the gospel. cf. Acts 2:7-13

Friend, what's done in most church setting recently is that we have more of speaking than the interpretation. Interpretation brings edification i.e. understanding. 1 Cor.14:5b
Ideally, The speaking ought to be done with interpretation. Both is the wholesome package.
Anyway the bible says in 1 Cor 14:2 that he that speaks in an unknown tongue speaks to God not unto men.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Truvelisback(m): 1:10pm On Sep 05, 2021
seglabsy:
the reason for this my question is as a result of a lady that i met she said she wanted to teach or train me how to be speaking in tongue, so i was disturbed on whether speaking in tongues is gift from God or they receive training as claimed by this lady.

So bible scholars, share your opinion on this because she is seriously disturbing me.
She can't teach u Speaking in tongues(praying in tongue). What she meant is that she wants u to be inspired to speak in tongues(praying in tongues) by her own tongues.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by gungab(m): 1:21pm On Sep 05, 2021
So people even interpret it

Pastor: Skilbiiosbb shidirb jdieubd hdi ehe

Interpreter: hdihdu odjbsh jdiudy gshdidk



chatinent:


Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by manuelfolarin(m): 1:22pm On Sep 05, 2021
chatinent:


Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by XDaBOSS(m): 1:31pm On Sep 05, 2021
Cudeze4:
I'm not in anyway trying to contradict anybody, but as far as i know. Speaking in tougue is the gift of the Holy Spirit. It can't be learned.

Where you de when some churches de even use am sing?
God is merciful sha
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Nobody: 1:31pm On Sep 05, 2021
chatinent:

I don't need to speak rubbish to prove a point bro.
not everything is a competition, debate or proving a point. You need the Holy Spirit in your life. And one of the signs that He's around is a change of vocabulary.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by LordReed(m): 1:33pm On Sep 05, 2021
It is not a gift, it's something anybody can do. I started speaking in tongues while playing with my siblings as a child. We did it as a form of secret language. Even now as an atheist I can speak in tongues.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by LordReed(m): 1:34pm On Sep 05, 2021
Lollittaa:

not everything is a competition, debate or proving a point. You need the Holy Spirit in your life. And one of the signs that He's around is a change of vocabulary.

It's not a sign of anything but your ability to vocalise. Nothing special about it.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Nobody: 1:36pm On Sep 05, 2021
LordReed:


It's not a sign of anything but your ability to vocalise. Nothing special about it.
have you spoken on tongues and realised it was worthless or you just heard people do it and concluded on your part that it's worthless?
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Nobody: 1:37pm On Sep 05, 2021
LordReed:
It is not a gift, it's something anybody can do. I started speaking in tongues while playing with my siblings as a child. We did it as a form of secret language. Even now as an atheist I can speak in tongues.
the issue is not the tongues, but the power it carries. You can speak English but if you don't understand what you are saying, it will not profit you.
I speak in tongues. It edifies me, strengthens me, and it is a communion between myself and the Godhead.
Now you can argue.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by bishop4life(m): 1:41pm On Sep 05, 2021
chatinent:


Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.

God bless you
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by fof1: 1:44pm On Sep 05, 2021
seglabsy:
the reason for this my question is as a result of a lady that i met she said she wanted to teach or train me how to be speaking in tongue, so i was disturbed on whether speaking in tongues is gift from God or they receive training as claimed by this lady.

So bible scholars, share your opinion on this because she is seriously disturbing me.

Avoid Her..such are the Babels of Satan...False tongues in Pentecostals today... Read Ur Acts of the Apostles. The Holy Ghost came down as they Prayed...it is not taught...Remember the Magician who was caused by Peter for seeking the Power by Offering Money...
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by LordReed(m): 1:45pm On Sep 05, 2021
Lollittaa:

the issue is not the tongues, but the power it carries. You can speak English but if you don't understand what you are saying, it will not profit you.
I speak in tongues. It edifies me, strengthens me, and it is a communion between myself and the Godhead.
Now you can argue.

What power apart from the euphoric feeling it gives you when you speaking it?
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by LordReed(m): 1:46pm On Sep 05, 2021
Lollittaa:

have you spoken on tongues and realised it was worthless or you just heard people do it and concluded on your part that it's worthless?

Yes I have and still do. I never said it was worthless, I said it's not a sign of anything special.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Comedian2019: 1:48pm On Sep 05, 2021
chatinent:


Yes, it is the gift of the holy spirit as seen on the day of pentecost.

But you see, brother, what is done today, the speaking of unknowledgeable words is pure nonsense and wasn't what was done then.

Unless you want to explain the meaning of rashidi yekini yamaha wa ka susuki from a preacher's mouth.

When people spoke in tongues in ancient times, they spoke one language and people from different cultural backgrounds, languages, and heritage, understood them.

Suppose Paul was in a Hebrew land (with non-Hebrew visitors from around) and spoke Hebrew, of the gift of the spirit, the Greeks, people of Corinth, people of Ephesus, Igbos, Ijaws, Yorubas, etc., understood him! They weren't speaking nonsense! The gift allowed them spread the message far and beyond language barriers...not speaking ecstatic pronouncements of gibberish.

Now I ask you, is what that was done then the same with what we hear and see today?


Have a nice century.
Acts of Apostles chapter 2 explains that speaking in tongues mean speaking in languages of people who could hear you, being empowered by holy spirit to do so.
What people do today is gibberish, just to scam the gullible. The day I see any so called Daddy GOs speaking in languages of people he never met, I'll believe people still speak in tongues.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by gaventa: 1:54pm On Sep 05, 2021
The gift of which Holy Spirit?? The concept of “TRINITY “ which the “HOLY SPIRIT” is inclusive did not come to existence until the 3rd century after YESHUAH and Paul had died but the bible recorded Pentecost whatever and included the Holy Spirit. Where did they find the holy spirit Speaking in tongues is just part of the deceit these people used. You all should endeavor to read the history of the religion you claim to practise .

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Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Nobody: 1:54pm On Sep 05, 2021
LordReed:


What power apart from the euphoric feeling it gives you when you speaking it?
Euphoria you say? Then you've never experienced the raw power of God. If I wanted euphoria, a dopamine or an adrenaline release, I'd watch an action movie.
I won't sit talking to God hours on end. It's never about euphoria. Jesus loves you.
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Kobojunkie: 1:59pm On Sep 05, 2021
Olas121:
Thanks for this question. Me asking myself like is it a much everybody must speak in tongues?
Everybody who wants to enter into Heaven Must Sell all they have in order to purchase it- Matthew 13 vs 44 -46, but not everyone knows and accepts this Truth of Jesus Christ. undecided

Jesus Christ said of speaking in tongues, "this signs shall follow those who believe in me...", so that leads me to believe that everyone who believes must should speak a new tongue. Unfortunately, many instead speak in gibberish and not a new tongue instead. undecided
Re: Is Speaking In Tongues Trainable Or A Gift? by Skseries: 2:07pm On Sep 05, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] I love the way you comfort yourself with the false ideas regarding religious movements like JWs and Mormons . But kwantinue. We know that people like you don't really stand for anything other " live and let live " foolishness
lol, can u make a point without abusive words? I thought we are matured ppl having matured conversation, I guess I thought wrong.

Anyways I don't argue over religion but at the end of the day we go know who dey really serve God. So madam or mister, whatever rocks ur boat

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