NNTR:
I dont want anything, what I need from you is to follow protocol, stay focus on what we are discussing, free up your mind and jettison all preconceived ideas not aligned with biblical truths and facts, loll. I believe all are achievable, if you rise up to the task.

The idea behind that, is so to keep track of your answer from easily identifying your answers and matching each with the question they 've responded to, loll.

The questions were asked you in an A,B,C format, you did not give your answers back in the same A,B,C style

If you refuse to give your answers back in the same in the same A,B,C style the questions were asked, how in the world would I possibly be able to follow up with different lines of enquiry questions. Erh?

I have a 1001 quite a lot else in mind, but you are creating a show stopper, an impasse as it were, by being impossible and not acting in accordance with simple protocols you're expected to follow, loll.

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I have been honest with you but it's clear you have something in mind and you are not expressing it.
I never took this as an academic sections hence I did not see any need to submit my assignment in your preferred format. But I addressed all your questions in my answer. If you feel I did not. Point me to the particular question.
I am really trying to understand and satisfy you.

haddeylium:


Ofcourse! Bible translator with religious dogma of going straight to heaven after death will rendered the translation you chose that way.

But does it answer your question here?


This is not a matter of following crowd but knowing and agreeing with what the bible really teaches

His spirit went to paradise. Paradise is were you find the spirits of the righteous

haddeylium:
You that translation to explain your quote here

Rewrite the bible?
When I said you need a more deligent and extensive study, I meant it.
Festofost, the Bible text had no punctuation marks as we know them today, so the translators into English are the ones who decide where to put quotation marks, dashes, commas, and fullstops/periods based on their own discretion.

What we say about Luke 23:43 is that some translators put the comma in the wrong place, changing the meaning of what Jesus was saying.

Jesus was not saying “You will be with me today” because that day Jesus ended up in the grave, not in any Paradise as you rightly said

Jesus meant he was promising the man “today”- that very day- that one day in the future that man would be resurrected to live in Paradise.

Putting the comma in the correct place (after the word “today”) correctly conveys what Jesus meant and is therefore the more accurate translation.

Thanks for your time

My brother, I am sure you are aware that Sheol aka the grave comprises of two section with a dividing gulf separating them each sections. Right?

Now watch this. The section where the righteous end up at, is whats called Abraham's bosom, the other section is the place, where other people like, the rich man, end up at. Listen to this. The thief on the right side of Jesus would have ended up in Abraham's bosom, if Jesus hadn't promised him that on that same day, it will be paradise that they will both meet up at.

Good God. Good, good God. Praise God Hallelujah. Eden, God's paradise. The world's a circle. Life is a circle. Jesus Christ, God Incarnate circled and cycled back to the beginning, back to Eden, back to God's paradise, God's paradise is shortened simply as paradise, the original garden home of Adam and Eve, loll.

Listen to this. After the victory on the cross at Calvary, all saints after death, end up in paradise and not anymore, Abraham's bosom, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

haddeylium:


Ofcourse! Bible translator with religious dogma of going straight to heaven after death will rendered the translation you chose that way.

But does it answer your question here?


This is not a matter of following crowd but knowing and agreeing with what the bible really teaches

When Christ died his spirit lived on remember. 1 Peter 3. 19 -21 tells of some of his activities. Preaching to other dead spirits in prison. This is very similar to the parable he told of lazarus and the rich man.
Because of Christ action the gospel is preached to the dead.

1 Peter 4:6
6 For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit

tctrills:
I have been honest with you but it's clear you have something in mind and you are not expressing it.
I never took this as an academic sections hence I did not see any need to submit my assignment in your preferred format. But I addressed all your questions in my answer. If you feel I did not. Point me to the particular question.
I am really trying to understand and satisfy you.

A/ How did God form the spirit of man aka ruach aka the breath of life aka the life force within him

B/ Also how exactly did the man become a living soul, at what point did the man become a living soul and why at that particular point did the man become a living soul?

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A/ What are you? Are you a soul or are you a spirit?
B/ Who does the soul belong to? Does it belong to man or it belongs to God?
C/ Who does the spirit belong to? Does it belong to man or it belongs to God?

tctrills:
His spirit went to paradise

loll. C'mon, how possibly is this please?

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tctrills:

But I can, I already presented Zachariah 12.1. That clearly tells us of the creation of our spirits. Let me know if that isn't enough. I could present more.

Together with Gen 2:7 shows that it's mindless lifeforce (or spirit) that animate a dead soul. Even this spirit is the same with animals' own (Eccl 3:19)

haddeylium:

Together with Gen 2:7 shows that it's mindless lifeforce (or spirit) that animate a dead soul. Even this spirit is the same with animals' own (Eccl 3:19)

It doesn't it's your own opinion not the bible. If you read your bible, you would learn that the spirit of man is not a mindless force. Let me know if you need verses form the bible to prove that.

tctrills:
When Christ died his spirit lived on remember. 1 Peter 3. 19 -21 tells of some of his activities. Preaching to other dead spirits in prison. This is very similar to the parable he told of lazarus and the rich man.
Because of Christ action the gospel is preached to the dead.

1 Peter 4:6
6 For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit

You're improperly using 1 Peter 3. 19 -20 and 1 Peter 4:6 even when my brother, I've previously advanced that, the breath of God, aka ruach aka life force is not required in the realm of the dead. It is only required in the land of the living and especially for a spirit being housed inside a human being body for it to become a living soul that can live and operate on earth.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

tctrills:

When Christ died his spirit lived on remember. 1 Peter 3. 19 -21 tells of some of his activities. Preaching to other dead spirits in prison. This is very similar to the parable he told of lazarus and the rich man.
Because of Christ action the gospel is preached to the dead.

1 Peter 4:6
6 For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit

Infact, I really like the fact that quoted this particular verse.

Remember that Jesus had a prehuman existence as a spirit son of God ? (John 1:1; Col. 1:15-17). Then he was a invisible, immaterial spirit being just as his father .
For his ransom sacrifice, he came as a Man (with flesh and blood). (Philippians 2:. Now, he's a physical being. He sacrificed his life and died and unconscious for 3 days .

Now, to the bible verse you quoted.

1 Pet. 3:18, RS: “Christ also died for sins once for all, . . . being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit
He was put to death as a human(with flesh and blood) for the ransom sacrifice but was raised a spirit being after 3days .
You can compare it with (1 Corinthians 15:44)
-It is sown(buried) a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body-
He was buried as a human and raised as a spirit to gain entry into heaven. Afterall, God's word says flesh and blood cannot inherit God's kingdom

tctrills:

It doesn't it's your own opinion not the bible. If you read your bible, you would learn that the spirit of man is not a mindless force. Let me know if you need verses form the bible to prove that.

Let me return you back to Gen 2:7. I didn't write it .
Two things make up a living and conscious person(soul)
Dust and Breathe of life(or spirit (not spirit being)
So simple.
Unless you want to argue with God's word that there's already a conscious person before God's combines the two
Try

haddeylium:
Together with Gen 2:7 shows that it's mindless lifeforce (or spirit) that animate a dead soul. Even this spirit is the same with animals' own (Eccl 3:19)

Bro, there isnt anything mindless about the ruach aka life force aka breath of God. Now watch this, the fact that, its man that is made in the image of the Godhead and in accordance to the the likeness of the Godhead, is the reason why its operation distinctly differs in man and animals. loll

tctrills:
It doesn't it's your own opinion not the bible. If you read your bible, you would learn that the spirit of man is not a mindless force. Let me know if you need verses form the bible to prove that.

Galatians 5:17
For the sinful nature has its desire which is opposed to the Spirit,
and the [desire of the] Spirit opposes the sinful nature;
for these [two, the sinful nature and the Spirit] are in direct opposition to each other [continually in conflict],
so that you [as believers] do not [always] do whatever [good things] you want to do.

Galatians 5:17
The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants.
And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires.
These two forces are constantly fighting each other,
so you are not free to carry out your good intentions.

I want to believe that my two brothers, (i.e. haddeylium & tctrills) both understand what is going on there, in Galatians 5:17. Hmm?

Body < < Soul >> Spirit (i.e. Soul is the bidirectional gateway between the body and spirit)
Body is strong to resist carnal desire(s) + Spirit willing = Soul wins (i.e. win win situation)
Body is weak to resist carnal desire(s) + Spirit willing = Soul loses out (i.e. deprived of an all out win)

The soul, which is you, (i.e. haddeylium & tctrills) is caught at the crossfire of the battles between the body and the spirit. Time won't permit to shed more light on the dynamics of the Body << Soul > > Spirit, loll.

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NNTR:
My brother, I am sure you are aware that Sheol aka the grave comprises of two section with a dividing gulf separating them each sections. Right?

Now watch this. The section where the righteous end up at, is whats called Abraham's bosom, the other section is the place, where other people like, the rich man, end up at. Listen to this. The thief on the right side of Jesus would have ended up in Abraham's bosom, if Jesus hadn't promised him that on that same day, it will be paradise that they will both meet up at.

Good God. Good, good God. Praise God Hallelujah. Eden, God's paradise. The world's a circle. Life is a circle. Jesus Christ, God Incarnate circled and cycled back to the beginning, back to Eden, back to God's paradise, God's paradise is shortened simply as paradise, the original garden home of Adam and Eve, loll.

Listen to this. After the victory on the cross at Calvary, all saints after death, end up in paradise and not anymore, Abraham's bosom, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Let me ask you the question I asked your friend.
what would be the purpose of the resurrection on the last day if people were already resurrected to paradise?
Do you think parables are to be taken literally?

Really? This is new to me. I don't know Hell is divided into section

haddeylium:
Let me ask you the question I asked your friend.

Mutual friend you mean, loll.

haddeylium:
what would be the purpose of the resurrection on the last day if people were already resurrected to paradise?

Acts 24:14-15
14But I confess this to you, that according to the Way, which they call a [divisive and heretical] sect,
I do worship and serve the God of our fathers,
[confidently] believing everything that is in accordance with the Law [of Moses]
and that is written in the Prophets;
15having [the same] hope in God which these men cherish themselves,
that there shall certainly be a resurrection of [the dead], both of the righteous and of the wicked

John 5:28-29
28Do not be surprised at this; for a time is coming when all those who are in the tombs will hear His voice,
29and they will come out--those who did good things [will come out] to a resurrection of [new] life,
but those who did evil things [will come out] to a resurrection of judgment [that is, to be sentenced].

Loads of purposes, but first, like to make, a bit of correction and set the record straight, which is, people are translated to Paradise aka Eden, meaning they are moved there. Now, its only at the sound of the trumpet, that people are resurrected meaning, people come back to life, with connection to realm of the living and also with, regained consciousness with the land of the living, loll.

Another of reason, for resurrection, is an acquisition of a glorified body. Remember that the other old body, had disintegrated into becoming dust, loll, hence the need for another one, loll.

haddeylium:
Do you think parables are to be taken literally?

Parables are just like jokes. Just because they both arent in certain aspect not to be taken literally, it doesnt mean that the parable or even joke doesnt have rings of truth and reality in them.

So, in answering your question, there is a time, there's a point, there are parts when and when not to take parable literally, loll.

haddeylium:
Really? This is new to me.

There is always a first time for everything, loll. We all have our moments of 'This is new to me'

haddeylium:
I don't know Hell is divided into section

To start with hell, really isnt a Jewish word nor a Jewish concept. In fact, hell aka hades and even aka tartarus are Greek, originating from Greek mythology to be precise. Hades, combinely is both the name of the Greek god of the underworld and place of abode for the wicked souls, loll.

Dont be too hard on yourself because the Jews, if not for Jesus, they too, didnt know about Sheol simply known as the grave, having two sections with a chasm separating them from each other. Jesus, with the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, expanded and increased the knowledge into what happens after death. It was from that parable that we gain an accurate understanding and deep insights into what happens after death and the two sections in Sheol, loll.

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haddeylium:


Let me return you back to Gen 2:7. I didn't write it .
Two things make up a living and conscious person(soul)
Dust and Breathe of life(or spirit (not spirit being)
So simple.
Unless you want to argue with God's word that there's already a conscious person before God's combines the two
Try

Well, Genesis never explained what that breath was made up of. Genesis never said it was a lifeless or thoughless breath. So why conclude. On the other hand, many verses in the bible clearly teach that the spirit of man is intelligent and that God is the father of our spirits.
Genesis never explained what consist of the breath of life, we learn that from other verses.

haddeylium:


Infact, I really like the fact that quoted this particular verse.

Remember that Jesus had a prehuman existence as a spirit son of God ? (John 1:1; Col. 1:15-17). Then he was a invisible, immaterial spirit being just as his father .
For his ransom sacrifice, he came as a Man (with flesh and blood). (Philippians 2:. Now, he's a physical being. He sacrificed his life and died and unconscious for 3 days .

Now, to the bible verse you quoted.

1 Pet. 3:18, RS: “Christ also died for sins once for all, . . . being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit
He was put to death as a human(with flesh and blood) for the ransom sacrifice but was raised a spirit being after 3days .
You can compare it with (1 Corinthians 15:44)
-It is sown(buried) a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body-
He was buried as a human and raised as a spirit to gain entry into heaven. Afterall, God's word says flesh and blood cannot inherit God's kingdom

2 things here,
1st, The resurrected Christ clearly told his followers that he was not a spirit. Remember, he asked them to touch him. I don't think he was lying or trying to deceive them.
2nd. If you say that only spirit would inherit God's kingdom, then you automatically agree that man is a spirit. Because the kingdom of God would be inherited by righteous men. Hence, you seem to agree that man is a spirit without knowing.

haddeylium:
Let me return you back to Gen 2:7. I didn't write it .
Two things make up a living and conscious person(soul)
Dust and Breathe of life(or spirit (not spirit being)
So simple.
Unless you want to argue with God's word that there's already a conscious person before God's combines the two
Try

Ephesians 5:14
Therefore it says:
"Awake you, the one sleeping, and rise up out from the dead,
and Christ will shine upon you."

The dead are conscious in their present surrounding, which is the realm of the dead, they lose all contacts, connection and consciousness with other surrounding, especially that of the realm or land of the living

Three things, on earth, make up a living and conscious person (soul)
- dust aka body
- spirit aka ruach, aka breath of life aka life-force
- soul (i.e. you)

Watch this, when you sleep, you are oblivious to all thats happening around you. Why is this? It is because you're temporarily zoned out.

Do you remember the exact words Jesus used in John 11:11, to inform the disciples of Lazarus' death? loll.

tctrills:
Well, Genesis never explained what that breath was made up of. Genesis never said it was a lifeless or thoughless breath. So why conclude. On the other hand, many verses in the bible clearly teach that the spirit of man is intelligent and that God is the father of our spirits.
Genesis never explained what consist of the breath of life, we learn that from other verses.

loll. You're totally right, and you'll just have to excuse this haddeylium goof loll.

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haddeylium:


Even though this is not the discuss of this thread.
But this error, intended or not, has confused people for thousands of years.
Have you heard others say after a person dies he/she is in heaven now? Thinking that a person dies and goes right to heaven.
So what would be the purpose of the resurrection on the last day if people were already resurrected?
Having the wrong idea of the resurrection breed this
.One of the requirements for eternal life is knowledge of Jehovah and Jesus. (John 17:3)

Have you heard others say after a person dies he/she is in heaven now? Thinking that a person dies and goes right to heaven. So what would be the purpose of the resurrection on the last day if people were already resurrected?

This is why you have to be careful and the religious organization you belong. What you accuse others of believing the wrong you equally do.

From the screenshots below, it means your believes equally supports that some of your members when they die now, they are resurrected to heaven immediately when they die.

achorladey:
This is why you have to be careful and the religious organization you belong. What you accuse others of believing the wrong you equally do.

From the screenshots below, it means your believes equally supports that some of your members when they die now, they are resurrected to heaven immediately when they die.

What haddeylium doesnt understand is that there currently isnt any human being in heaven. Another thing haddeylium doesnt understand is that, resurrection with a glorified body, only happens in paradise at the sound of the trumpet, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
What haddeylium doesnt understand is that there currently isnt any human being in heaven. Another thing haddeylium doesnt understand is that, resurrection with a glorified body, only happens in paradise at the sound of the trumpet, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Enoch and Elijah are in heaven according to the bible.

tctrills:
[s]Enoch and Elijah are in heaven according to the bible.[/s]

John 3:13
No one has gone up into heaven,
but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself—whose home is in heaven].

loll. Yeah, in your dreams, they are, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
John 3:13
No one has gone up into heaven,
but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself—whose home is in heaven].

loll. Yeah, in your dreams, they are, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Unless the bible was lying.
When the Lord was about to take Elijah up to heaven in a whirlwind, Elijah and Elisha were on their way from Gilgal.

tctrills:
Unless the bible was lying.

2 Timothy 2:15
Study and do your best to present yourself to God approved,
a workman [tested by trial] who has no reason to be ashamed,
accurately handling and skillfully teaching the word of truth.

The bible does not lie. The misunderstanding is coming from you not doing the 2 Timothy 2:15 due diligence. This has caused you not to correctly and rightly divide the word of truth about basic Bible 101 theology

tctrills:
When the Lord was about to take Elijah up to heaven in a whirlwind, Elijah and Elisha were on their way from Gilgal.

2 Kings 2:11
Then it happened, as they continued on and talked,
that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire,
separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven (i.e. the sky, as that is what the Hebrew word, shamayim means

Acts 8:39
When they came up out of the water,
the Spirit of the Lord [suddenly] took Philip [and carried him] away [to a different place];
and the eunuch no longer saw him, but he went on his way rejoicing.

Its a no brainer, what happened to Elijah in 2 Kings 2:11, nonetheless, make of 2 Kings 2:11 and Acts 8:39 what you will. loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
2 Timothy 2:15
Study and do your best to present yourself to God approved,
a workman [tested by trial] who has no reason to be ashamed,
accurately handling and skillfully teaching the word of truth.

The bible does not lie. The misunderstanding is coming from you not doing the 2 Timothy 2:15 due diligence. This has caused you not to correctly and rightly divide the word of truth about basic Bible 101 theology

2 Kings 2:11
Then it happened, as they continued on and talked,
that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire,
separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven (i.e. the sky, as that is what the Hebrew word, shamayim means

Acts 8:39
When they came up out of the water,
the Spirit of the Lord [suddenly] took Philip [and carried him] away [to a different place];
and the eunuch no longer saw him, but he went on his way rejoicing.

Its a no brainer, what happened to Elijah in 2 Kings 2:11, nonetheless, make of 2 Kings 2:11 and Acts 8:39 what you will. loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Acts 8.39 has nothing to do with heaven. So you did not have to quote it.
As for the meaning of shamayim,
Shamayim (Hebrew: שָׁמַיִם‎‎ šāmayīm), the Hebrew word for "heaven" (literally heavens, plural), denotes one component of the three-part biblical cosmology, the other elements being erets (the earth) and sheol (the underworld). Shamayim is the dwelling place of God and other heavenly beings, erets is the home of the living, and sheol is the realm of the dead, including, in post-Hebrew Bible literature (including the New Testament), the abode of the righteous dead.

I think you really need to study ancient hebrew before quoting it. If you don't know it, don't quote it.
You seem to be getting all your ancient hebrew wrong

tctrills:
Acts 8.39 has nothing to do with heaven. So you did not have to quote it.

Dont worry, as I'll break it down for you.

The reason for quoting Acts 8.39 was that I thought your brain will join Acts 8:39 dots with 2 Kings 2:11 dots to conjure a picture to you showing that Elijah and Philip were translated, meaning teleported across space in the air and distance to another place on earth.

Tell us, does your Bible say Elijah never died?
Does your Bible tell you that Elijah didnt die, loll

tctrills:
As for the meaning of shamayim,
Shamayim (Hebrew: שָׁמַיִם‎‎ šāmayīm), the Hebrew word for "heaven" (literally heavens, plural), denotes one component of the three-part biblical cosmology, the other elements being erets (the earth) and sheol (the underworld). Shamayim is the dwelling place of God and other heavenly beings, erets is the home of the living, and sheol is the realm of the dead, including, in post-Hebrew Bible literature (including the New Testament), the abode of the righteous dead.

[s]I think you really need to study ancient hebrew before quoting it. If you don't know it, don't quote it.
You seem to be getting all your ancient hebrew wrong[/s]

You want to teach grandma how to suck eggs?

Eat your heart out with this https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/1-8.htm

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

This is the kind of question I like... making people to run helter skelter...

The people who have been trying to give answers have not considered the whole statement in the book of Genesis - created in God's image after His likeness (similitude)....

*. Genesis 1:26 "KJV: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness : and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27
KJV: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him ; male and female created he them."

The question is "are human spirits... consider Jesus Christ also who is said to be the express image of the Father?"

KNOWMORE56:
This is the kind of question I like... making people to run helter skelter...

The people who have been trying to give answers have not considered the whole statement in the book of Genesis - created in God's image after His likeness (similitude)....

They used the word and to separate the two description i.e "in His image and in His likeness"

The question is "are human spirits... consider Jesus Christ also who is said to be the express image of the Father?"

5 Questions for you:
Hebrews 1:1-3, Where was Jesus resident when Paul wrote the epistle of Hebrews?
Where was Jesus abode when Paul wrote Hebrews chapter 1?

Genesis 6:3 and Romans 8:3, can you connect the dots?
Man is flesh living in the physical realm.

If man is a spirit,why did your Jesus the spirit not know what only the Father knows @ Matthew 24:36?

Matthew 24:36, why is that very knowledge exclusive to only the Father hidden from Mr KNOWMORE56 the spirit?
Why is the same knowledge exclusive to only the Father hidden from every other spirits in the physical realm estimated @ 6 billion worldwide ?.

NNTR:
Dont worry, as I'll break it down for you.

The reason for quoting Acts 8.39 was that I thought your brain will join Acts 8:39 dots with 2 Kings 2:11 dots to conjure a picture to you showing that Elijah and Philip were translated, meaning teleported across space in the air and distance to another place on earth.

Tell us, does your Bible say Elijah never died?
Does your Bible tell you that Elijah didnt die, loll

You want to teach grandma how to suck eggs?

Eat your heart out with this https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/1-8.htm

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Kings says Elijah was taken to heaven, Acts did not say Philip was taken to heaven. What is your point.
Are you saying it was the spirit of Elijah that was taken up to heaven? Is that your point?

tctrills:

Kings says Elijah was taken to heaven, Acts did not say Philip was taken to heaven. What is your point.
Are you saying it was the spirit of Elijah that was taken up to heaven? Is that your point?

John 3:13 none of them went to heaven.
I stand with Jesus.

tctrills:

Kings says Elijah was taken to heaven, Acts did not say Philip was taken to heaven. What is your point.
Are you saying it was the spirit of Elijah that was taken up to heaven? Is that your point?

Modified
If you are a Christian, don't argue with janosky, he is a demonic agent, he is only doing what is master sent him. Even the devil can quote the Bible.

NNTR:
John 3:13
No one has gone up into heaven,
but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself—whose home is in heaven].

loll. Yeah, in your dreams, they are, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

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tctrills:
[s]Kings says Elijah was taken to heaven, Acts did not say Philip was taken to heaven. What is your point.
Are you saying it was the spirit of Elijah that was taken up to heaven? Is that your point?[/s]

Can you see, how again, you're unable bring yourself to give your answers to another set of questions, loll.
Tell us, does your Bible say Elijah never died?
Does your Bible tell you that Elijah didnt die, loll

Janosky:
John 3:13 none of them went to heaven.
I stand with Jesus.

Flesh and blood has not revealed it to you, but my Father which is in heaven

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:

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Can you see, how again, you're unable bring yourself to give your answers to another set of questions, loll.
Tell us, does your Bible say Elijah never died?
Does your Bible tell you that Elijah didnt die, loll

Flesh and blood has not revealed it to you, but my Father which is in heaven

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

The bible says he was taken to heaven. If he died in heaven, we don't know. Did the bible say he died?

Janosky:

John 3:13 none of them went to heaven.
I stand with Jesus.

Janosky:


5 Questions for you:
Hebrews 1:1-3, Where was Jesus resident when Paul wrote the epistle of Hebrews?
Where was Jesus abode when Paul wrote Hebrews chapter 1?

Genesis 6:3 and Romans 8:3, can you connect the dots?
Man is flesh living in the physical realm.

If man is a spirit,why did your Jesus the spirit not know what only the Father knows @ Matthew 24:36?

Matthew 24:36, why is that very knowledge exclusive to only the Father hidden from Mr KNOWMORE56 the spirit?
Why is the same knowledge exclusive to only the Father hidden from every other spirits in the physical realm estimated @ 6 billion worldwide ?.

The Word of God says man is created in the image of God after His likeness - Genesis 1:26-27.

This means (among other things):
1. God has a spirit; human has a spirit
*. 1 Corinthians 2:11 "KJV:For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God."

2. God has senses; human has senses

*. Psalms 115:3 "KJV:But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
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KJV:Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands.
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KJV:They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:
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KJV:They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:
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KJV:They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat."....

My next post will be showing scriptures that confirm man is a spirit