Dtruthspeaker:


As long as the mannequin has seen that nothing is capable of making itself, that is certainly sufficient.

interesting. Since the mannequin's only reason to believe a man created it is because it thinks nothing can create itself, so how does the mannequin now conclude it must be a man specifically, why not conclude it was made by a chimpanzee or dog?

The answer is because you know humans make mannequins that is why u used them as example. But if such a mannequin that can think exists then it can as well conclude that god made it orzarungindamaza made it or a dushwodbsk made it, or udjdksodh made it. This is exactly what religions are doing just guessing.

Mannequins are man made, you know it because you can see it, you can verify it.

Man is made by what? God? Can this be confirmed? Have we seen gods making men? Can we verify it?

LordReed2nd:


LoL! How can you not see it is a direct comparison with reference to archeological findings? Have you eaten today? Bwahahahahahaha!

I ate rice. Maybe rice isn't good in 2022. Lol

Take your Harry Potter out, it's blocking the Jericho wall.

Myer:


The world we live in existed long before man knew how to write.
Long before the Bible was canonised.

That you believe that the God of the Bible is the creator of heaven and earth is your choice even though there is no proof.

The point being that the Bible is a literary work just like Harry Potter.
While J.K Rowlings acknowledges her work to be fantasy, we know the Bible just like other religious Holy books claims to be inspired by God even though they all differ in the said inspiration.

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I will rest my case since you have chosen to divert the real issue of creation to just writing

Dtruthspeaker:


Yes it is. For to you, you can choose to say that you walk on the sky and the sun is in the ground, that is your own.

But once you have to relate with others, Truth is very clear and beyond dispute. It is the consensus and aggregate of subjectives in which we all agree and have agreed that we walk on ground and the sky is above us.

So, if you prefer lies to be your Truths, that is your personal insanity and alienation.

But beyond and outside you, Truth is Known and Settled and sane men relate on it.

A lot of general superstitions were accepted as truths. Today they've been rejected after being disproved by education and science.

Truth is absolute but that everyone around you accepts an unproven truth just makes it an opinion and not truth.

Yorubas used to believe that Oduduwa created the earth when God gave Orisanla a hen and sand which the hen spread to form the earth.
I'm sure today you realise how ridiculous that sounds.

In the South they believed twins were evil and used to murder them. That was their generally accepted truth until Mary Slessor.

I'm sure you catch my drift.

hupernikao:


I ate rice. Maybe rice isn't good in 2022. Lol

Take your Harry Potter out, it's blocking the Jericho wall.

Well maybe the rice had was too much and is drawing blood away from your head. Sleep and wake up may be by then the food would have digested and you would understand the comparison.

LordReed2nd:


Well maybe the rice had was too much and is drawing blood away from your head. Sleep and wake up may be by then the food would have digested and you would understand the comparison.

I have already done all above. The solution to this is for you to use the magic wand and remove Potter from your box. With that the Jericho wall will rise.

hupernikao:


I have already done all above. The solution to this is for you to use the magic wand and remove Potter from your box. With that the Jericho wall will rise.

Sorry you still don't understand the comparison, that isn't my fault.

GraphicsMaster1:
Even your phone can't just appear and dissappear

Baseless comparison

Myer:


A lot of general superstitions were accepted as truths. Today they've been rejected after being disproved by education and science.

Truth is absolute but that everyone around you accepts an unproven truth just makes it an opinion and not truth.

Yorubas used to believe that Oduduwa created the earth when God gave Orisanla a hen and sand which the hen spread to form the earth.
I'm sure today you realise how ridiculous that sounds.

In the South they believed twins were evil and used to murder them. That was their generally accepted truth until Mary Slessor.

I'm sure you catch my drift.

Why didn't you answer me?

HenryDion:


If we thread this route, you'll end up regressing. If nothing can will itself to existence, how are we here? If the world was created, who created the creator and the creator's creator? Infinitum. Perhaps something can come out of nothing. We might never figure it out, but what keeps us going is being open minded.

Lol why shouldn't we... You have seen things being created. 1.Have you ever see nothing becoming something?
2. Then why are you willing to believe it?
3. is that scientific, tested and proven?

4. If you say Infinitum is it different from what we call God?
5. Do you expect God die or be born?
6. Lastly do you expect God to be non-conscious

HenryDion:


What is nothing? How do you comprehend nothingness? Does it have mass, space? Define nothing, and I'll tell you how possible it is for something to emerge from it.

Let's represent nothing as 0. And something as 1.

Can you show us how mathematically possible it is to produce one from a bunch of zeros

Myer:


But Physics is science. An observation of how nature works. And how to simulate nature to make inventions.

The bible on the contrary is an alleged historical account of a said Jewish messiah that would save the whole world

The bible is just like our traditional myths and legends.

1. Do you believe there was a Sango who actually spat fire from his mouth and controlled thunder?

2. Do you believe there was actually an Amadioha who actually controlled thunder?

3. Do you believe that the whole world was created when Eledumare gave Orisanla a hen and sand which the hen scratched and spread to form the earth?

4. Or do you believe in the more documented Greek mythology of creation with Titans and Zeus?

5. Perhaps you believe in the Buddhist or Hindus version of creation story.


The truth remains you only chose to believe biblical version of the story because they were very meticulous and made sure to spread by enforcing it along education in Ngeria.
Your parents or grand were forced to accept Christianity or forfeit the benefits of education.

So you cannot possibly place science on the same pedestal as the bible or any other religious book simply because you simply chose to believe the bible.

I do not see anything wrong is having what you have chosen to believe. My only issue is that the bible promotes monopoly by teaching that only the bible is right and anyone who doesnt accept its teaching is condemned and some times should be ostracized.

We interact daily with the God of the Bible. in ways we can't interact with sango and Zeus.

And my grandparents willing accepted Christ.

Also. The Bible promoting it's monopoly is natural if you really think about it.

HellVictorinho3:




Baseless comparison

I'm what way is it baseless?

Myer:


A lot of general superstitions were accepted as truths. Today they've been rejected after being disproved by education and science.

Truth is absolute but that everyone around you accepts an unproven truth just makes it an opinion and not truth.

Yorubas used to believe that Oduduwa created the earth when God gave Orisanla a hen and sand which the hen spread to form the earth.
I'm sure today you realise how ridiculous that sounds.

In the South they believed twins were evil and used to murder them. That was their generally accepted truth until Mary Slessor.

I'm sure you catch my drift.

You have spoken Truly. (See, Truth in Action. If it is True, it is True) and the things you have laid are True.

But, in all of what you have laid, you would see that The Truth is still beyond these facts and it needs to be raised up.

Like the ground under our feet has been consistent, therefore, the question is who raised superstitions for clearly superstitions are clearly not Truths?

Truth is Everlasting and Everyone comes to meet it proving The Truths in the Bible "Gods Words are Everlasting" Psalm 119:89.

Hence, Truth is All God has Said and What He has wrought.

Anything not standing on this will and must Fall!

Dtruthspeaker:


You have spoken Truly. (See, Truth in Action. If it is True, it is True) and the things you have laid are True.

But, in all of what you have laid, you would see that The Truth is still beyond these facts and it needs to be raised up.

Like the ground under our feet has been consistent, therefore, the question is who raised superstitions for clearly superstitions are clearly not Truths?

Truth is Everlasting and Everyone comes to meet it proving The Truths in the Bible "Gods Words are Everlasting" Psalm 119:89.

Hence, Truth is All God has Said and What He has wrought.

Anything not standing on this will and must Fall!

How do you know what God said?

You simply accepted the words of the bible as truth, just like the Jew accepts the words of the Talmud as truth. Just as the Muslim accepts the words of the Quran as truth. Just as out traditionalists accept the words of their priests as truth.

There are so many errors that were proven untrue in the bible which was why early the early Christian church persecuted and even killed scientists. (Pls Google is your friend).

There are so many truths you and your pastor have prophesied but did not come true, Covid being a more recent case that humbled Christians.

Now don't get me wrong. I respect every form of belief that makes anyone become a better person.
My grouse with Christianity, Islam and Judaism is the monopoly they brought into religion.

So before you adjudge any information as true, what research have you done or what revelation have you had to validate your assertion?

HellVictorinho3:




Why didn't you answer me?

It's in your best interest that I did not reply you. But now you have asked for my reason.

1. Begging should not be a habit.
As someone who is an adult, you should find some thing you can do and find a job.
I was going to give you some thing until I realised you have made begging on NL a regular habit.

2. If your present job isn't paying you well, find one that will or find multiple streams of income.

3. It's makes an intelligent person like you look bad when you beg religious people for aids.

I am a giver naturally but not one to be exploited.
I just think you've turned NL to a ground for easy money through begging.

Like I said, It's in your best interest that i don't reply you. So, next time some one ignores you begging them for money, just take it as a cue and let them be. Those that will fall for your scheme will fall. Others who know better will obviously not fall.

GraphicsMaster1:
We interact daily with the God of the Bible. in ways we can't interact with sango and Zeus.

And my grandparents willing accepted Christ.

Also. The Bible promoting it's monopoly is natural if you really think about it.

I admire your conviction. And on that note,I will not try to argue further.

But if I may suggest.... try creating a thread that shows and proves your direct relationship with God.
It just might help more than those whose only mechanism is to scare people with heaven and hell, let me not mention names.lol

Myer:


It's in your best interest that I did not reply you. But now you have asked for my reason.

1. Begging should not be a habit.
As someone who is an adult, you should find some thing you can do and find a job.
I was going to give you some thing until I realised you have made begging on NL a regular habit.

2. If your present job isn't paying you well, find one that will or find multiple streams of income.

3. It's makes an intelligent person like you look bad when you beg religious people for aids.

I am a giver naturally but not one to be exploited.
I just think you've turned NL to a ground for easy money through begging.

Like I said, It's in your best interest that i don't reply you. So, next time some one ignores you begging them for money, just take it as a cue and let them be. Those that will fall for your scheme will fall. Others who know better will obviously not fall.

You don't know why I requested for help..... you see it as a scheme .... is this justifiable?



As for those with baseless allegations against me.
.., it's because I don't have money to sue them...... I want to see which useless law states that anyone that requested for help should be treated as if those bastards have the right to treat the person the way they do.

HellVictorinho3:





You don't know why I requested for help..... you see it as a scheme .... is this justifiable?



As for those with baseless allegations against me.
.., it's because I don't have money to sue them...... I want to see which useless law states that anyone that requested for help should be treated as if those bastards have the right to treat the person the way they do.

Forget all the baseless accusations.
As long as you do not have a disability, you should not make begging a habit.

Anyone can occasionally run broke and beg once in a while but to make it a habit is where the issue is.

Try not to be too proud to find a decent living. And if you can find someone on NL to show you the ropes, all the better.
From your posts you sound quite intelligent and should not have to resort to this.

Myer:


How do you know what God said?

You simply accepted the words of the bible as truth, just like the Jew accepts the words of the Talmud as truth. Just as the Muslim accepts the words of the Quran as truth. Just as out traditionalists accept the words of their priests as truth.

There are so many errors that were proven untrue in the bible which was why early the early Christian church persecuted and even killed scientists. (Pls Google is your friend).

There are so many truths you and your pastor have prophesied but did not come true, Covid being a more recent case that humbled Christians.

Now don't get me wrong. I respect every form of belief that makes anyone become a better person.
My grouse with Christianity, Islam and Judaism is the monopoly they brought into religion.

So before you adjudge any information as true, what research have you done or what revelation have you had to validate your assertion?

Just as some atheists stupidly believe certain things ...... it's not enough to say I don't have to respond..... it's a matter of 'who has enough money to spend on assassins or robbers or rapists or lawyers or judges or whatever element of destruction towards the destruction of things'



Honestly,my ambition is to make money towards financing violence in certain places......we shall see what is certain.

Myer:


Forget all the baseless accusations.
As long as you do not have a disability, you should not make begging a habit.

Anyone can occasionally run broke and beg once in a while but to make it a habit is where the issue is.

Try not to be too proud to find a decent living. And if you can find someone on NL to show you the ropes, all the better.
From your posts you sound quite intelligent and should not have to resort to this.

I was never happy while asking for help..... I did it with nothing but agony/anguish....... I even lost opportunities for the ropes as a result of baseless allegations..... there will never be peace between me and those bastards.

HellVictorinho3:




Just as some atheists stupidly believe certain things ...... it's not enough to say I don't have to respond..... it's a matter of 'who has enough money to spend on assassins or robbers or rapists or lawyers or judges or whatever element of destruction towards the destruction of things'



Honestly,my ambition is to make money towards financing violence in certain places......we shall see what is certain.

Why is financing violence your ambition?
Perhaps this is why you're broke.lol

Myer:


Why is financing violence your ambition?
Perhaps this is why you're broke.lol

There are rich people that finance violence everyday.... there's a reason why it's done..... don't be too stupid to ask why!!!!!!

Myer:

How do you know what God said?

Do you not see the things He is said to have said in the Bible that they are indeed Great and Powerful things which we are ourselves stand witnesses to?

Myer:

You simply accepted the words of the bible as truth, just like the Jew accepts the words of the Talmud as truth. Just as the Muslim accepts the words of the Quran as truth. Just as out traditionalists accept the words of their priests as truth...

I have told you severally in the past I never accept what I have not seen and tested to be True.

I am not like you fools who accepted what mummy and daddy and pastor OR WHO DO NOT KNOW HOW TO CARRY OUT VALID TESTS.

I am not like you

And this is where I stop talking for I have no tolerance for stupid people, with their abundance of stupidity.

Dtruthspeaker:


Do you not see the things He is said to have said in the Bible that they are indeed Great and Powerful things which we are ourselves stand witnesses to?



I have told you severally in the past I never accept what I have not seen and tested to be True.

I am not like you fools who accepted what mummy and daddy and pastor OR WHO DO NOT KNOW HOW TO CARRY OUT VALID TESTS.

I am not like you

And this is where I stop talking for I have no tolerance for stupid people, with their abundance of stupidity.

Before you do stop talking, pray tell, what are the valid tests you have proven.

Myer:


Before you do stop talking, pray tell, what are the valid tests you have proven.

Like your proof of my schemes..... Dtruthspeaker.... it's of no use answering or trying to prove anything to those who don't know what has to be proven!

HellVictorinho3:

Like your proof of my schemes..... Dtruthspeaker.... it's of no use answering or trying to prove anything to those who don't know what has to be proven!

That is my thoughts precisely. If a blind man would not accept that the heat he feels outside, is from the sun, in proof of the sun, then we have to wait until he dies of heatstroke and thirst.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is my thoughts precisely. If a blind man would not accept that the heat he feels outside, is from the sun, in proof of the sun, then we have to wait until he dies of heatstroke and thirst.

But why do you insincerely say I don't need anything in naira?

Myer:

Before you do stop talking, pray tell, what are the valid tests you have proven.

The test of water is wetness, the test for fire is burning, light, heat and pain. The test of Truth is Fulfilment and Visual Confirmation!

Dtruthspeaker:


The test of water is wetness, the test for fire is burning, light, heat and pain. The test of Truth is Fulfilment and Visual Confirmation!

Mind sharing your testimonies then?

HellVictorinho3:

But why do you insincerely say I don't need anything in naira?

those who are Truly hungry and in need are not Nairalanders. They are in the streets.

Myer:


Mind sharing your testimonies then?

They are not relevant here.

On second thought, here is the bestest testimony I live in which is "It is very very well with me all round and I live in Peace, Joy, Sweetness, Laughter, Enemies defeated, I do have everything I want and need and have rest! Exactly as God hath said.

Jeremiah 7:23

“But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.”