Dtruthspeaker:


They are not relevant here.

Lol I can only imagine the apostles saying the same thing. Apparently we wont gave the Synoptic gospels and the epistles.

That's just an easy way of saying you don't have a covincing testimony of what you have chosen to be the truth.

Myer:


Lol I can only imagine the apostles saying the same thing. Apparently we wont gave the Synoptic gospels and the epistles.

That's just an easy way of saying you don't have a covincing testimony of what you have chosen to be the truth.

See, you spoke hastily and stupidly.

Dtruthspeaker:


those who are Truly hungry and in need are not Nairalanders. They are in the streets.

Can't those on the streets type from the streets

HellVictorinho3:

Can't those on the streets type from the streets

Nope! They can't!

I have created a thread so that we can deliberate on the creation of the universe. It is better to start from the foundation.
https://www.nairaland.com/6922611/out-options-pick-one-believe

Dtruthspeaker:


Nope! They can't!

Why?

GraphicsMaster1:
Let's represent nothing as 0. And something as 1.

Can you show us how mathematically possible it is to produce one from a bunch of zeros

This is not the definition of NOTHING.

GraphicsMaster1:
Lol why shouldn't we... You have seen things being created. 1.Have you ever see nothing becoming something?
2. Then why are you willing to believe it?
3. is that scientific, tested and proven?

4. If you say Infinitum is it different from what we call God?
5. Do you expect God die or be born?
6. Lastly do you expect God to be non-conscious

You are asking a lot of questions to something who knows NOTHING.

HenryDion:

If we thread this route, you'll end up regressing. If nothing can will itself to existence, how are we here? If the world was created, who created the creator and the creator's creator? Infinitum. Perhaps something can come out of nothing. We might never figure it out, but what keeps us going is being open minded.

The Creator has given us a guide book (Bible) to know what is necessary about Him.

Evolution has always been the imagination of humans like you and i.

So if we have to choose between the two what we should first consider as the most important is our future, what is the future of mankind?

Has Evolutionists said anything tangible about our future?

The Bible says a lot about the future of mankind:
Wicked people will be no more! Psalms 37:9-11
Sickness will be gone! Isaiah 33:24
Food will be abundant! Psalms 67:6-7
Infirmities will be gone! Isaiah 35:5-6
No more oldage with wornout skins! Job 33:25
Death will be no more! Isaiah 25:8 compare to Revelations 21:3-5

Of course all these may sound unbelievable just like the things we have always read in that book. So what is the evidence that the Bible's Author is real and has the power to fulfill all these promises?

Well i don't know when the books were written neither do i have any business with those who translated it but there's something that i can't just overlook. The author promised that before He orders the executioners that will kill all evildoers and allow humble and obedient mankind to have peace {Luke 19:27} the Author said we will see a sign!
What sign?
For thousands of years now mankind has the problem of misunderstanding leading to racism and politics resulting to destruction of lives and properties. Intellectuals from all works of life have come up with lots of ideas to unite people of all races and erase hatred from their hearts.
They tried using entertainment: OLYMPICS, SOCCER, MUSIC, MOVIE, BEAUTY CONTEXT and many more but it all failed, members of all these ORGANIZATIONS have continue to support racism and politics hence WARS and KILLINGS continued!
They tried commercials, health care, poverty alleviation schemes yet the WARS and KILLINGS continued.
So there was no hope in sight.
But the Author of the Bible said He will send His active force (Holy Spirit) to help in gathering obedient people throughout the earth in preparation for His coming Kingdom.
They will all agree to use His book (Bible) as their guidebook, they will succeed in erasing politics and racism from the hearts of all their members, they will no more carry weapons against anyone neither will they learn war again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

He said these people from different races will assemble under one umbrella to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, there will be PEACE in their midst as if they're all speaking one language {Zephaniah 3:9} people throughout the earth will know them by the name of their God {Micah 4:5} everyone will know that these people love their members! John 13:34-35

So by the time the world is worried over killings here and there God's Holy Spirit will help His own worshipers to say "we are no part of your troubles" {John 17:14} instead of supporting one side against another these people will be busy preaching and teaching LOVE for God and neighbours! Mark 12:29-31

With all these happening in my own eyes why do i have to doubt the existence or words written in the book of an Author whose book started with this opening sentence:

"in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" Genesis 1:1

HenryDion:


This is not the definition of NOTHING.

According to Google, nothing has to do with the absence of any specific thing.... but 'nothing' in XYZ Physics refers to Bla Bla Bla....... punctuation marks or a specific coloring means nothing cannot really exist.

GraphicsMaster1:
Even your phone can't just appear and dissappear

The comparison is wrong.

HellVictorinho3:

According to Google, nothing has to do with the absence of any specific thing.... but 'nothing' in XYZ Physics refers to Bla Bla Bla....... punctuation marks or a specific coloring means nothing cannot really exist.

Nothing doesn't exist. Hold that thought young man! If there's no NOTHING, that means there's something. Surely, something can come out of nothing, even though it's not entirely nothing. Hope I didn't fry your brain?

HenryDion:


Nothing doesn't exist. Hold that thought young man! If there's no NOTHING, that means there's something. Surely, something can come out of nothing, even though it's not entirely nothing. Hope I didn't fry your brain?

Something cannot
'come out' when there's no thing to come out from...in other words, something can only begin to exist as the result of the change in whatever arrangement of certain things...... hope I didn't fry your head?

HellVictorinho3:




Something cannot
'come out' when there's no thing to come out from...in other words, something can only begin to exist as the result of the change in whatever arrangement of certain things...... hope I didn't fry your head?

I didn't mean to hurt your ego. If nothing doesn't exist, that means there can never be nothing but something. Surely, you'll agree that something can come out of something since nothing doesn't exist.

HellVictorinho3:




Something cannot
'come out' when there's no thing to come out from...in other words, something can only begin to exist as the result of the change in whatever arrangement of certain things...... hope I didn't fry your head?

matter and energy are eternal they had always existed in one form or another.

HenryDion:


I didn't mean to hurt your ego. If nothing doesn't exist, that means there can never be nothing but something. Surely, you'll agree that something can come out of something since nothing doesn't exist.

Hell yeah... that's it .... it can only be something out of something ..... we're saying the same thing now.

HellVictorinho3:




Hell yeah... that's it .... it can only be something out of something ..... we're saying the same thing now.

Indeed. NOTHING doesn't exist.

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