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Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by Kobojunkie: 1:11pm On Jan 27, 2022
chieveboy:
1: You invariably just said another entity is running the show behind God's backyard. Very wow!
Where exactly do you get that idea from what I posted? undecided
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by chieveboy(m): 1:17pm On Jan 27, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. In every culture on this planet, you will find that people's worship several gods, so it matters little to nothing what other deities where worshipped by whom and why. undecided

Abraham, as far as scripture is concerned chose, and worshipped the God that later became the God of Israel. The God of Israel then gave to the Israelites, through Moses, a Law book that contains, not 10 but 613 commandments and statutes, which they refer to as the Torah. undecided

I am not certain what you hope to gain by deviating from the subject here but I hope you don't intend to push this past this post. undecided

Very well. The God in ancient Summer, that of Abraham is the same one repackaged into what you have in Israel like you rightly said. There is something to catch here. They called this being Anu. Anu or An is the God of Israel...

How does this add up to making amends to beliefs and doctrines? You've been my guest!
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by Kobojunkie: 1:22pm On Jan 27, 2022
chieveboy:
Very well. The God in ancient Summer, that of Abraham is the same one repackaged into what you have in Israel like you rightly said. There is something to catch here. They called this being Anu. Anu or An is the God of Israel...

How does this add up to making amends to beliefs and doctrines? You've been my guest!
What you have stated here changes absolutely nothing of what I have said so far of what is stated in scripture - not a word of scripture is changed by it. So I hope you are now done with this unnecessary segway of yours? undecided
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by chieveboy(m): 1:24pm On Jan 27, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Where exactly do you get that idea from what I posted? undecided

If another entity other than God created the laws of nature (Gravity, Thermodynamics, Etc), then someone is running the show aren't they?

Do you know the name of that syndrome l spoke about earlier? I call it 'Running with your head down in the market' Syndrome. This is what Kumuyi suffered and you're exhibiting same here. Actually the Parable of The Sower is on such people. This is why science-inclined countries have so much while those who have their head down lack much.

This syndrome is found in religion. The tendency to feel if its not (mentioned) in the Bible, its not Godly, like the bible was a compendium of all things. If someone advanced in the deeper things of the bible hears you mentioning that the laws of nature are not of God, they would be shocked to their marrows.
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by Kobojunkie: 1:31pm On Jan 27, 2022
chieveboy:
If another entity other than God created the laws of nature (Gravity, Thermodynamics, Etc), then someone is running the show aren't they?

Do you know the name of that syndrome l spoke about earlier? I call it 'Running with your head down in the market' Syndrome. This is what Kumuyi suffered and you're exhibiting same here.

This syndrome is found in religion. The tendency to feel if its not (mentioned) in the Bible, its not Godly, like the bible was a compendium of all things. If someone advanced in the deeper things of the bible hears you mentioning that the laws of nature are not of God, they would be shocked to their marrows.
Is comprehension now become a problem... undecided

1. From where I stand, the Laws of Nature and Laws of Physics are not God's Law - Law that defines the relationship between God and man.. undecided


The laws of nature and of Physics do not define the relationships between God and man, so they are not to be compared in any way or form to God's Law as defined in scripture. undecided

Why you keep bringing up laws that have nothing to do with the religious context of this discussion is beyond me and I keep having to explain to you over and over that scripture is not a book about how the universe or nature works but scripts that speak of the relationship between God and man. undecided
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by chieveboy(m): 1:31pm On Jan 27, 2022
Kobojunkie:
What you have stated here changes absolutely nothing of what I have said so far of what is stated in scripture - not a word of scripture is changed by it. So I hope you are now done with this unnecessary segway of yours? undecided

Let me put it in another form:

If the ancient Sumerians worshipped someone who is not the supreme deity and who was adopted by the Israelites and today, then any scripture still presenting that same entity as the Supreme Deity is not worth taking in as authoritative because that scripture too does not know better (as a matter of saying).

Further referring to it is like redownloading a source of virus. This is my drift all the while.
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by Kobojunkie: 1:32pm On Jan 27, 2022
chieveboy:
Let me put it in another form:

If the ancient Sumerians worshipped someone who is not the supreme deity and who was adopted by the Israelites and today, then any scripture still presenting that same entity as the Supreme Deity is not worth taking in as authoritative because that scripture too does not know better (as a matter of saying).

Further referring to it is like redownloading a source of virus. This is my drift all the while.
Again,
What you have stated here changes absolutely nothing of what I have said so far of what is stated in scripture - not a word of scripture is changed by it.

So I hope you are now done with this unnecessary segway of yours? undecided
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by chieveboy(m): 1:44pm On Jan 27, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Is comprehension now become a problem... undecided

1. From where I stand, the Laws of Nature and Laws of Physics are not God's Law - Law that defines the relationship between God and man.. undecided


The laws of nature and of Physics do not define the relationships between God and man, so they are not to be compared in any way or form to God's Law as defined in scripture. undecided

Why you keep bringing up laws that have nothing to do with the religious context of this discussion is beyond me and I keep having to explain to you over and over that scripture is not a book about how the universe or nature works but scripts that speak of the relationship between God and man. undecided

It is because you do not know that the so-called Ten commandments (which to you defines the relationship between God and man) is actually a dumped-down or interpreted laws of nature smiley. If you do not know, Nature is a direct manifestation of the Supreme Deity itself!

Example of how Ten Commandments are from the laws of Nature:

Law of nature: For every action, there is an equal reaction.
Punishment: You reap what you sow accordingly.

"Laws of God": Thou shall not..., Thou shall not... multiplied by ten
Punishment: hell...

Law of Nature: Relativity-It says anything is in relation to another. Farness is in relation to a given position, Beauty is relative, sadness is relative etc.

Law of God: "If you do this, I will do that. What you do is relative to my disposition, edict or wish. You can kill that and its good but kill that and its bad. Anything is relative to (my) anything".

You only need to raise your head up and delimit your reasoning. If Kumuyi had done so from the onset, he wouldn't have subjected millions into needless destruction of the body and its flow of vital Life Force.
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by Kobojunkie: 1:47pm On Jan 27, 2022
chieveboy:
1..It is because you do not know that the so-called Ten commandments (which to you defines the relationship between God and man) is actually a dumped-down or interpreted laws of nature smiley. If you do not know, Nature is a direct manifestation of the Supreme Deity itself!
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2. You only need to raise your head up and delimit your reasoning. If Kumuyi had done so from the onset, he wouldn't have subjected millions into needless destruction of the body and its flow of vital Life Force.
I am afraid at this point, you are doing nothing but rambling and this in a desperate attempt to find some sort of validation for your ignorance of scripture. undecided

2. Stop trying to judge things you have little or no understanding of. Focus on your religion abeg. undecided
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by bandjay(f): 12:55pm On Jan 29, 2022
THE WINDS OF CHANGE
A change is approaching.
Your situation or fate has been adjusted.
You should choose whether to alter your present bearing or remain your course.
New possibilities and potential new issues are not too far off.
Be ready to adjust.

As I have added these cards from Madame Endora, I have additionally added the Thoth card that I had laid them with. This entertains me and fortifies their implications for me. Kindly hold on for me!
This card was laid with Thoth's Tower. That's the short and long of it concerning this combo? Golly!
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by chieveboy(m): 3:41pm On Jan 30, 2022
bandjay:
THE WINDS OF CHANGE
A change is approaching.
Your situation or fate has been adjusted.
You should choose whether to alter your present bearing or remain your course.
New possibilities and potential new issues are not too far off.
Be ready to adjust.

As I have added these cards from Madame Endora, I have additionally added the Thoth card that I had laid them with. This entertains me and fortifies their implications for me. Kindly hold on for me!
This card was laid with Thoth's Tower. That's the short and long of it concerning this combo? Golly!

The wind had ever been blowing, just that this time, its a paradigm shift. Change is the only constant.
Re: Kumuyi And The Wind Of Change by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:30pm On Jan 30, 2022
LordIsaac:
The pastors below him feel they "know more than him" now. When the leader you've been following for years now says there's a new direction, as far as he is not saying Jesus did not die on the cross, nothing stops you from obeying him.

Can female members of Deeperlife put on jewelries and make-ups now?
I'm asking because the old man invited a female putting on make-up and jewelry to come and minister (preach for his followers)
So between Kumuyi who taught Deeperlifers not to put on jewelries and make-ups, and those that taught the other female minister, who knows the Holy Ghost better? smiley

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