Go and read paradise lost by John Milton, and Understand

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Jokerman:
Go and read paradise lost by John Milton, and Understand

I will
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AntiChristian:
The Christian God can't save without blood.

From Animal blood to his son's!

But "Thou shall not kill".

he created humans and animals so he make the rules. Ur brain or our human brain is too small to understand God

Dtruthspeaker:


You have been plotting and searching how you could insult God having seen that He rejected thy father Ishmael and therefore you are using this as an opportunity to strike at The Lord in fulfilment of the prophecies.

The day cometh when The Lord shall avenge Himself!

But in the passing time before The Lord Comes, IT SHALL NEVER BE WELL WITH YOU!

by insulting that person u are not a true christian. Did u see jesus insulting anyone that didnt believe in him. It is people like u who think u will make heaven but will end up going to the place of eternal darkness

advocatejare:

We know how to “Answer a fool as his foolishness deserves, So that he will not be wise in his own eyes”- proverbs 26:5

So if you see what looks like a foolish answer, then you must have asked a foolish question or wrote something foolish!

I see, so you are a foolish person.
I guess I will stop responding to your shitty response, if you are irrational.

MaxInDHouse:

Please what exactly do you mean by powerless?

Powerless in the sense that, he could have forgiven everyone but decided to request for his sons blood by letting them kill him.

talk2hb1:

Powerless in the sense that, he could have forgiven everyone but decided to request for his sons blood by letting them kill him.

OK!
If that's what you meant by powerless then you need to see things from another perspective not just from your own thinking alone.

According to the Bible God has many spirit sons living with Him in heaven before creating humans, it's one of them that started this whole thing but then if He destroyed this child immediately others will continue to wonder if He's not a bully due to His powers and if He decides to forgive this rebellious son is not ready to relent in his effort to rule over lesser beings.
Satan has started the rebellion and he wants to rule over humans at all cost.
So to settle the matter once for all time God allowed Satan to approach the human pair and let's see if he will succeed in ruling over them. Note that God has forewarned humans not to think of ruling over one another but this time will they agree to rebel against God's order?
If Satan succeeded in winning them over how long will it take for humans to realize that they can't succeed in ruling over themselves?
God wants everyone to see that the right to rule (set standards) belongs only to Him and no one else.

That's why He permitted all what we're facing today.

The suffering has been too much you'll say right?
Well God has no business with any of us because we are children of rebels so it's until we prove to different from our parents (Adam and Eve) that God will pick interest in us.

So He allowed Adam and Eve to continue living but not up to one day which is about a thousand years in the spirit realms! 2Peter 3:8

It's about 6,000 years now and so far Satan has failed woefully in his attempt to stylishly rule over mankind in disguise and mankind themselves don't realize that it's another person that's been ruling over them they thought it's their visible human leaders. 1John 5:19

So how has God proved to be the Almighty?

Note that He doesn't want to bully anyone so He predicted that a time is coming when He will dispense a force to gather obedient people from all the earth under one umbrella, they will be using His words to rule over themselves, they will resolve all racial disparities which Satan's rule has brought, they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will stop making weapons neither will they learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4

But will this affect all humans on planet earth?

NO! It will only affect OBEDIENT humans so they will just find their ways into this group through a global campaign for God's government! Matthew 28:19-20

But as for the rest of mankind who are rebels they will be busy building destructive weapons to kill one another throughout the earth! Revelations 6:3-4

Of course this will affect even those obedient people who are no longer into politics or racism as many of them will be killed due to the troubles. So God promised a resurrection for all obedient humans right from the second son of the first human pair till date! Job 14:13-15

So what makes people like me believe in this God today?
Well it's because we are now witnessing the fulfilment of His promise as that global family of peace loving worshipers suddenly emerged in the name of "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" and everything mentioned in that Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 fittingly fall in place just as Isaiah penned it down some 3,000 years ago! Isaiah 55:8-11

Kobojunkie:
Who told you God wanted human blood?

Who told you God let Jesus Christ die when instead Jesus Christ Himself said He gave His life willingly in order that He may receive eternal reward for doing so?

Who told you God needs blood before He can forgive sins?

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Open your eyes and abandon all the lies you have been fed by the charlatans you call your pastors and mogs. Pick up the book and read it for yourself so you don't continue to ponder the meaningless things.

Innocent people are executed sometimes,

Why it his own different?

sonmvayina:
Innocent people are executed sometimes,

Why it his own different?

He willingly gave up His life in order to accomplish the mission He was given to. He was not just one of innocents who are executed sometimes.

talk2hb1:

I see, so you are a foolish person.
I guess I will stop responding to your shitty response, if you are irrational.

If you couldn’t comprehend the simple English I wrote, then you know who you are.

Kobojunkie:
He willingly gave up His life in order to accomplish the mission He was given to. He was not just one of innocents who are executed sometimes.

Who gave him the mission ?

sonmvayina:
Who gave him the mission ?

God.

teebagy:
by insulting that person u are not a true christian. Did u see jesus insulting anyone that didnt believe in him. It is people like u who think u will make heaven but will end up going to the place of eternal darkness

The Lord Jesus is so high that He can not stoop to level of insulting His creations.

I did not even insult him, I cursed him in the Name of The Good Good Lord, king of heaven and earth, Whom he insulted.

All because God is too too Good and very long suffering.

I am not good nor long suffering and therefore if I see an evil, I must respond against it and invite the Word of The Lord to be levied upon him.

Cursed is he who insults the Name of The Lord. He shall never have light wherever he goes nor shall he find any good in this life. And o, The Lord shall avenge Himself upon his soul.

Kobojunkie:
God.

When, through which prophet?

Amos 3:7 "God does nothing without first revealing it to his servant the prophet..

talk2hb1:

I want a logical and a reasonable response

The logic and reasons were already given in the Bible. If you don't accept it, you are supposed to move on and do whatever it is you doing before.

But calling God wicked and powerless is not one asking a question, but one who has passed a judgement. And an evil unjust judgement for that matter!

sonmvayina:
When, through which prophet?

Your question makes no sense. If God gave Him the mission, why does it have to be through a prophet?

talk2hb1:
I have been Thinking and Thinking, is Christian Gods Wicked by letting them kill his own son just because he wants human blood before he can forgive sins, or he is powerless and hungry for blood to forgive sins?

God is just and righteous, he will never allow sin go unpunished, Jesus only volunteered to take our place. Death is the penalty for sin, so Jesus chose to pay it, by doing so, God's righteousness and justice is satisfied and his love demonstrated.
Incase you don't know that life of every living creature is in the blood, so Jesus blood must be Shedd unto death to pay the price.

Many people only think of God as a God of love but his holiness, justice, righteousness, faithfulness is neglected.

God is both a forgiving God and a just God.
All of God's attribute was satisfied by Jesus sacrifice on the cross.

Kobojunkie:
Your question makes no sense. If God gave Him the mission, why does it have to be through a prophet?

Because God does nothing without revealing it to a prophet..

sonmvayina:
Because God does nothing without revealing it to a prophet..

So your question is instead whether or not Jesus Christ's mission, which He was given by God, was prophesied by the prophets before Him?

Kobojunkie:


So your question is instead whether or not Jesus Christ's mission, which He was given by God, was prophesied by the prophets before Him?

Yes..

sonmvayina:
Yes..

My answer is the same I have given you over the many times we have had this same tussle... Yes. His mission was prophesied even as it was given Him by God.

Kobojunkie:
My answer is the same I have given you over the many times we have had this same tussle... Yes. His mission was prophesied even as it was given Him by God.

Provide them

Let's thrash them once and for all.

sonmvayina:
Provide them
Let's thrash them once and for all.

You have made numerous attempts at this more times than one can count here on nairaland, revealing yourself one filled with nothing but delusions each and everytime mind you.

Why in the world would I want to do any of that with you again? To what end?

talk2hb1:

Can't deduce why your god is powerless

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You will surely know, soon enough... how powerful GOD Is!

"God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God." - Psalm 62:11

"I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear" -Isaiah 45:23

"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth" - Philippians 2:10

xproducer:


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You will surely know, soon enough... how powerful GOD Is!

"God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God." - Psalm 62:11

"I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear" -Isaiah 45:23

"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth" - Philippians 2:10

If he is so majestic as portrayed, her should just forgive every sinner instead of requesting for human blood

Steep:

God is just and righteous, he will never allow sin go unpunished, Jesus only volunteered to take our place. Death is the penalty for sin, so Jesus chose to pay it, by doing so, God's righteousness and justice is satisfied and his love demonstrated.
Incase you don't know that life of every living creature is in the blood, so Jesus blood must be Shedd unto death to pay the price.

Many people only think of God as a God of love but his holiness, justice, righteousness, faithfulness is neglected.

God is both a forgiving God and a just God.
All of God's attribute was satisfied by Jesus sacrifice on the cross.

If That god you are talking about is that powerful and majestic, can't he just forgive everyone instead of his sons blood sacrifice.
Importantly, their is nowhere in the Bible where Jesus ever said he was sent to wash away sin.

Dtruthspeaker:


The logic and reasons were already given in the Bible. If you don't accept it, you are supposed to move on and do whatever it is you doing before.

But calling God wicked and powerless is not one asking a question, but one who has passed a judgement. And an evil unjust judgement for that matter!

I am not asking questions, I am affirming how your god in his supremacy can't just forgive all humanity and still requesting for blood of his son to forgive humans.
Those that sound reasonable to you?
Don't you consider that as scam?

MaxInDHouse:


OK!
If that's what you meant by powerless then you need to see things from another perspective not just from your own thinking alone.

According to the Bible God has many spirit sons living with Him in heaven before creating humans, it's one of them that started this whole thing but then if He destroyed this child immediately others will continue to wonder if He's not a bully due to His powers and if He decides to forgive this rebellious son is not ready to relent in his effort to rule over lesser beings.
Satan has started the rebellion and he wants to rule over humans at all cost.
So to settle the matter once for all time God allowed Satan to approach the human pair and let's see if he will succeed in ruling over them. Note that God has forewarned humans not to think of ruling over one another but this time will they agree to rebel against God's order?
If Satan succeeded in winning them over how long will it take for humans to realize that they can't succeed in ruling over themselves?
God wants everyone to see that the right to rule (set standards) belongs only to Him and no one else.

That's why He permitted all what we're facing today.

The suffering has been too much you'll say right?
Well God has no business with any of us because we are children of rebels so it's until we prove to different from our parents (Adam and Eve) that God will pick interest in us.

So He allowed Adam and Eve to continue living but not up to one day which is about a thousand years in the spirit realms! 2Peter 3:8

It's about 6,000 years now and so far Satan has failed woefully in his attempt to stylishly rule over mankind in disguise and mankind themselves don't realize that it's another person that's been ruling over them they thought it's their visible human leaders. 1John 5:19

So how has God proved to be the Almighty?

Note that He doesn't want to bully anyone so He predicted that a time is coming when He will dispense a force to gather obedient people from all the earth under one umbrella, they will be using His words to rule over themselves, they will resolve all racial disparities which Satan's rule has brought, they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will stop making weapons neither will they learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4

But will this affect all humans on planet earth?

NO! It will only affect OBEDIENT humans so they will just find their ways into this group through a global campaign for God's government! Matthew 28:19-20

But as for the rest of mankind who are rebels they will be busy building destructive weapons to kill one another throughout the earth! Revelations 6:3-4

Of course this will affect even those obedient people who are no longer into politics or racism as many of them will be killed due to the troubles. So God promised a resurrection for all obedient humans right from the second son of the first human pair till date! Job 14:13-15

So what makes people like me believe in this God today?
Well it's because we are now witnessing the fulfilment of His promise as that global family of peace loving worshipers suddenly emerged in the name of "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" and everything mentioned in that Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 fittingly fall in place just as Isaiah penned it down some 3,000 years ago! Isaiah 55:8-11

A Man Went to Drink and Drank To Stupor, it was his son at that got intoxicated. Does this sound reasonable to you?
Adam and Eve ate the fruit only for their descendant to bear the consequences of their action
Why can't he just punish the two for their misdeed, instead of transferring the punishment on the children and later requesting for one of his holy son to wipe the sin of those who has nothing to the sin of some other people.

Kobojunkie:
Who told you God wanted human blood?

Who told you God let Jesus Christ die when instead Jesus Christ Himself said He gave His life willingly in order that He may receive eternal reward for doing so?

Who told you God needs blood before He can forgive sins?

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Open your eyes and abandon all the lies you have been fed by the charlatans you call your pastors and mogs. Pick up the book and read it for yourself so you don't continue to ponder the meaningless things.

I have read the Bible from genesis to revelation but unfortunately I never come across where Jesus ever said he came to die for sin

talk2hb1:

I am not asking questions, I am affirming how your god in his supremacy can't just forgive all humanity and still requesting for blood of his son to forgive humans.
Those that sound reasonable to you?
Don't you consider that as scam?

Christianity should have an icon for the remission of sin which is the blood of Jesus.


God does things for a purpose, we are all humans we give excuses. We can give excuse to God that atleast no die for the remission of our sin to prove his love to us. Less you forget Jesus didn't die forever he rose on the third day and ascended to heaven.

There won't be excuse for you if you refuse to believe in him and you end up in damnation, read this scripture "mark 16:16" peace be unto you.

talk2hb1:

I have read the Bible from genesis to revelation but unfortunately I never come across where Jesus ever said he came to die for sin

Jesus Christ never said He came to die for your sins though. The one's whose sins He technically died for is that of the Jews whom He came to redeem from the Old Covenant Law of Moses so they could port over to God's New Covenant Law, and God's New agreement which He brought to mankind.

Of your own sins in Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ instead said it is by knowing the Truth through continuous submission and obedience of His teachings and commandments , that you can then be set free from slavery to Sin - John 8 vs 31 - 35.