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Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 2:44pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:


Illiterate, The New Testament was written in Greek, jesus and his disciples spoke ARAMAIC.
Daniel is Old Testament written in Hebrew and Aramaic, dunce
The king was looking for the interpretation of the words, the MEANING OF WHAT DOES WORDS MEAN not the exact mere words, dummy.
Read!
grin My guy u are a learner! Listen to urself! The New Testament was written in Greek! So u think Jesus spoke Aramaic? Is Aramaic Hebrew? Jesus spoke Yiddish for ur info. And if Eloi Eloi was Aramaic, that means Aramaic appeared in the New Testament. But am telling u, NO SINGLE ARAMAIC IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. No Hebrew in the New Testament either! So wot language is Eloi Eloi? Greek?
As for Mene Mene, the wise men could not read it ATALL, talkless of making meaning of it. If they cud put the letters together, they would EASILY have lied about the meaning. The reward was too great. Same reason why Nebuchadnezzar refused to tell this same peoples his dreams, cos they will lie about the interpretation. So he asked them to tell him d dream instead! I repeat, IN VAIN IS WORLDLY SCHOLARS TRYING TO MAKE THOSE TONGUES INTO COMMON LANGUAGES. And stop pasting those senseless lies at me.

Mark 15:33-36

33 And when the sixth hour (about midday) had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour (about three o'clock).

34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? — which means, My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me [deserting Me and leaving Me helpless and abandoned]?

35 And some of those standing by, [and] hearing it, said, See! He is calling Elijah!

36 And one man ran, and, filling a sponge with vinegar (a mixture of sour wine and water), put it on a staff made of a [bamboo-like] reed and gave it to Him to drink, saying, Hold off! Let us see whether Elijah [does] come to take Him down.

Verse 35 WHY SAY HE WAS CALLING FOR ELIJAH? Wot language is Eloi? I tot the people knew the language?
Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 2:52pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin My guy u are a learner! Listen to urself! The New Testament was written in Greek! So u think Jesus spoke Aramaic? Is Aramaic Hebrew? Jesus spoke Yiddish for ur info. And if Eloi Eloi was Aramaic, that means Aramaic appeared in the New Testament. But am telling u, NO SINGLE ARAMAIC IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. No Hebrew in the New Testament either! So wot language is Eloi Eloi? Greek?
As for Mene Mene, the wise men could not read it ATALL, talkless of making meaning of it. If they cud put the letters together, they would EASILY have lied about the meaning. The reward was too great. Same reason why Nebuchadnezzar refused to tell this same peoples his dreams, cos they will lie about the interpretation. So he asked them to tell him d dream instead! I repeat, IN VAIN IS WORLDLY SCHOLARS TRYING TO MAKE THOSE TONGUES INTO COMMON LANGUAGES. And stop pasting those senseless lies at me.
Mark 15:33-36
MARK

15

1 AND IMMEDIATELY when it was morning, the chief priests, with the elders and scribes and the whole council, held a consultation; and when they had bound Jesus, they took Him away [violently] and handed Him over to Pilate.

2 And Pilate inquired of Him, Are You the King of the Jews? And He replied, It is as you say.

3 And the chief priests kept accusing Him of many things.

4 And Pilate again asked Him, Have You no answer to make? See how many charges they are bringing against You!

5 But Jesus made no further answer at all, so that Pilate wondered and marveled.

6 Now at the Feast he [was accustomed to] set free for them any one prisoner whom they requested.

7 And among the rioters in the prison who had committed murder in the insurrection there was a man named Barabbas.

8 And the throng came up and began asking Pilate to do as he usually did for them.

9 And he replied to them, Do you wish me to set free for you the King of the Jews?

10 For he was aware that it was [because they were prompted] by envy that the chief priests had delivered Him up.

11 But the chief priests stirred up the crowd to get him to release for them Barabbas instead.

12 And again Pilate said to them, Then what shall I do with the Man Whom you call the King of the Jews?

13 And they shouted back again, Crucify Him!

14 But Pilate said to them, Why? What has He done that is evil? But they shouted with all their might all the more, Crucify Him [at once]!

15 So Pilate, wishing to satisfy the crowd, set Barabbas free for them; and after having Jesus whipped, he handed [Him] over to be crucified.

16 Then the soldiers led Him away to the courtyard inside the palace, that is, the Praetorium, and they called the entire detachment of soldiers together.

17 And they dressed Him in [a] purple [robe], and, weaving together a crown of thorns, they placed it on Him.

18 And they began to salute Him, Hail (greetings, good health to You, long life to You), King of the Jews!

19 And they struck His head with a staff made of a [bamboo-like] reed and spat on Him and kept bowing their knees in homage to Him.

20 And when they had [finished] making sport of Him, they took the purple [robe] off of Him and put His own clothes on Him. And they led Him out [of the city] to crucify Him.

21 And they forced a passerby, Simon of Cyrene, the father of Alexander and Rufus, who was coming in from the field (country), to carry His cross.

22 And they led Him to Golgotha [in Latin: Calvary], meaning The Place of a Skull.

23 And they [attempted to] give Him wine mingled with myrrh, but He would not take it.

24 And they crucified Him; and they divided His garments and distributed them among themselves, throwing lots for them to decide who should take what.

25 And it was the third hour (about nine o'clock in the morning) when they crucified Him.

26 And the inscription of the accusation against Him was written above, The King of the Jews.

27 And with Him they crucified two robbers, one on [His] right hand and one on His left.

28 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, He was counted among the transgressors.

29 And those who passed by kept reviling Him and reproaching Him abusively in harsh and insolent language, wagging their heads and saying, Aha! You Who would destroy the temple and build it in three days,

30 Now rescue Yourself [from death], coming down from the cross!

31 So also the chief priests, with the scribes, made sport of Him to one another, saying, He rescued others [from death]; Himself He is unable to rescue.

32 Let the Christ (the Messiah), the King of Israel, come down now from the cross, that we may see [it] and trust in and rely on Him and adhere to Him! Those who were crucified with Him also reviled and reproached Him [speaking abusively, harshly, and insolently].

33 And when the sixth hour (about midday) had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour (about three o'clock).

34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? — which means, My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me [deserting Me and leaving Me helpless and abandoned]?

35 And some of those standing by, [and] hearing it, said, See! He is calling Elijah!

36 And one man ran, and, filling a sponge with vinegar (a mixture of sour wine and water), put it on a staff made of a [bamboo-like] reed and gave it to Him to drink, saying, Hold off! Let us see whether Elijah [does] come to take Him down.

Verse 35 WHY SAY HE WAS CALLING FOR ELIJAH? Wot language is Eloi? I tot the people knew the language?

Illiterate when was yiddish language created, when was jesus born.
Aramaic and hebrew have the same parent language, they are semitic languages.
The New Testament was written in GREEK!

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Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 2:56pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:


Illiterate when was yiddish language created, when was jesus born.
The New Testament was written in GREEK!
grin U are kidding? Is Eloi Eloi Greek? Wot is it? Answer dat. As for Yiddish, it broken Hebrew, it’s wot Jesus spoke.
Aramaic is Persian language. In the entire Bible only a few chapters were written in Aramaic! And only the book of Daniel. Which was written in Persia land
Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 2:58pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin U are kidding? Is Eloi Eloi Greek? Wot is it? Answer dat. As for Yiddish, it broken Hebrew, it’s wot Jesus spoke.

Illiterate, Jesus spoke ARAMAIC.
New Testament was written in GREEK HUNDRED OF YEARS AFTER JESUS DIED.

Jesus was DEAD before yiddish language was even created dunce.

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:01pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:


Illiterate, Jesus spoke ARAMAIC.
New Testament was written in GREEK HUNDRED OF YEARS AFTER JESUS DIED.

Jesus was dead before yiddish language was even created dunce.
grin slowpoke! Which of the New Testament codex were written in Aramaic?
Aramaic is Persian language. In the entire Bible only a few chapters were written in Aramaic! And only the book of Daniel. Which was written in Persia-land
Just only chapter 14 of the book of Daniel was Aramaic.
Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:01pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin U are kidding? Is Eloi Eloi Greek? Wot is it? Answer dat. As for Yiddish, it broken Hebrew, it’s wot Jesus spoke.
Aramaic is Persian language. In the entire Bible only a few chapters were written in Aramaic! And only the book of Daniel. Which was written in Persia land

Aramaic is a Semitic language.
Old Testament was written in OLD HEBREW and ARAMAIC.
Where are you getting these jargons?

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:02pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin slowpoke! Which of the New Testament codex were written in Aramaic?
Aramaic is Persian language. In the entire Bible only a few chapters were written in Aramaic! And only the book of Daniel. Which was written in Persia-land
Just only chapter 14 of the book of Daniel was Aramaic.

Illiterate, The first and original New Testament called codex sinaiticus was written in GREEK. What century was that?
Aramaic is a Semitic language, same way hebrew too.

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:05pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin slowpoke! Which of the New Testament codex were written in Aramaic?
Aramaic is Persian language. In the entire Bible only a few chapters were written in Aramaic! And only the book of Daniel. Which was written in Persia-land
Just only chapter 14 of the book of Daniel was Aramaic.

Illiterate, what century was yiddish language created?

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:06pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:


Illiterate, The first and original New Testament called codex sinaiticus was written in GREEK. What century was that?
Aramaic is a Semitic language, same way hebrew too.
grin U so dumb!
Wot have u said? I tot u were going to tell me which codex was written in Aramaic? The first Codex and the oldest is Vaticanus for ur info and they all Greek
Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:08pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin U so dumb!
Wot have u said? I tot u were going to tell me which codex was written in Aramaic? The first Codex and the oldest is Vaticanus for ur info and they all Greek

Illiterate, The oldest codex is sinaiticus.
Jesus and his disciples spoke ARAMAIC!
These codex were written hundred of years after the said events!
Yonan codex was written in ARAMAIC!

Dullard!

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:08pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:


Illiterate, what century was yiddish language created?
grin No prove Jesus Ever spoke Aramaic. Where would he have learnt it?
Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:09pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin No prove Jesus Ever spoke Aramaic. Where would he have learnt it?

Where did jesus live?
When was yiddish language created, dummy?

Just disgracing yourself.

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:16pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:


Illiterate, The oldest codex is sinaiticus.
Jesus and his disciples spoke ARAMAIC!
grin Every thrash in google is wot u pasting at me grin As at when Jesus was born the Roman Empire was the colonial power in Palestine, they took over from the Greek empire, who was dominant in the area for 500yrs, after displacing the Persians. How could Aramaic be fashionable ANYWHERE in Palestine wen Jesus was growing up? Even the Romans couldn’t do away with Greek. It had been in the area for 500yrs.
The vaticanus is 400 BCE. How old is the Sanaiticus?
Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by OnknownSoldier: 3:16pm On Oct 16, 2022
Gospel2Day:


The singular reason is blatant DISREGARD for biblical instructions on the use of tongues in public spaces and places.
1Corinthians chapter 14 clearly spells it out.
But because we live in the Age of Disobedience and Disrespect for Scriptural guidelines, supposed Christians do whatever they like.
To correct your assertion, singing in tongues or in the spirit is biblical BUT it should be exercised ONLY in private worship and devotion, except, of course, if there is interpretation.
In public gatherings of believers, the Apostle Paul forbids believers from speaking in tongues loudly, if there's no one to interpret the tongues.
But one can pray and sing in tongues silently during Christian Praise or Prayer meetings.
That's the same way the previous generation of Christians neglected and disregarded the biblical command for sisters to wear a veil on their heads while praying or prophesying.
We are in the Last Days. So, we should expect more departures and deviations from WHAT IS CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE from WOKE CHRISTIANS.
Shalom.


Noted! Thanks for making out time to write this long explanation.

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Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:18pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin Every thrash in google is wot u pasting at me grin As at when Jesus was born the Roman Empire was the colonial power in Palestine, they took over from the Greek empire, who was dominant in the area for 500yrs, after displacing the Persians. How could Aramaic be fashionable ANYWHERE in Palestine wen Jesus was growing up? Even the Romans couldn’t do away with Greek. It had been in the area for 500yrs.
The vaticanus is 400 BCE. How old is the Sanaiticus?

Illiterate, Where are you getting your own thrash from? From your ass?
Sinaiticus codex is 325BCE.

ARAMAIC IS NEVER A PERSIAN LANGUAGE but a SEMITIC LANGUAGE!
What do you understand by “persian language”?

When was yiddish language created?

Dullard!

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:28pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:


Illiterate, Where are you getting your own thrash from? From your ass?
Sinaiticus codex is 325BCE.

When was yiddish language created?

Dullard!
grin I use google but not as dense as u. The Germans colonized Cameron for 50yrs b4 the French took it over in 1914. Go to Cameron and see if anybody can speak German language! The Greeks took over from the Persians and stayed in the place for 500yrs. U have to be dunce to believe anyone there would be Aramaic the Persian language

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:32pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin I use google but not as dense as u. The Germans colonized Cameron for 50yrs b4 the French took it over in 1914. Go to Cameron and see if anybody can speak German language! The Greeks took over from the Persians and stayed in the place for 500yrs. U have to be dunce to believe anyone there would be Aramaic the Persian language

What century did the greeks take over from persians?
You have to be stupid to believe aramaic is a persian language

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:37pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin I use google but not as dense as u. The Germans colonized Cameron for 50yrs b4 the French took it over in 1914. Go to Cameron and see if anybody can speak German language! The Greeks took over from the Persians and stayed in the place for 500yrs. U have to be dunce to believe anyone there would be Aramaic the Persian language

Illiterate, codex sinaiticus is the oldest!

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:40pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:


What century did the greeks take over from persians?
You have to be stupid to believe aramaic is a persian language
grin Half education is dangerous grin
Who are the Persians? If not the Iranians and Iraqi? Even as at today, I don’t if anybody is still alive speaking Aramaic! grin

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:42pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin Half education is dangerous grin
Who are the Persians? If not the Iranians and Iraqi? Even as at today, I don’t if anybody is still alive speaking Aramaic! grin

Illiteracy is bad, which country did he defeat the persian?
Gallilee? Jerusalem?
Guagemela bwahahahah
ARAMAIC Is NEVER a “persian language”.

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by forexprophet(m): 3:44pm On Oct 16, 2022
You are FULL OF IGNORANCE. You know nothing about Holy ghost baptism. No wonder you will keep talking trash
OnknownSoldier:
If you are conversant with the modern-day gospel music industry, you would have noticed a sudden surge of unknown tongues in many gospel songs from gospel artists of mostly black descent. This sudden development in my opinion is worthy of serious interrogation as the Bible says that we should test all spirits so as know which is of God [1 John 4:1].

The gospel songs I knew while growing up emphasized godly living using language(s) that can be understood. The hymns for example are written in plain language(s) and one can attest to the fact that those songs are divinely inspired and spirit-filled. Meanwhile, the present crops of gospel music raving the moment are mostly incorporated with unknown tongues and spiritual chants that can not be understood by anyone and yet we have not found a single interpreter to interpret the tongues in these popular songs. I believe that in itself negates the fundamental injunction stated by Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 14:27.

I have been to megachurches in several regions of Nigeria where I have heard worship leaders repeating the same tongues in these popular gospel records verbatim and I get confused each time. Damn! Something is wrong somewhere. It's almost impossible to hear a gospel record these days without hearing an unknown tongue in it. Could that be the latest marketing strategy to sell gospel records?

Yes! I believe in tongues but I also believe that not all spirit-filled Christians must speak in tongues. Some operate in other gifts like prophecy, Discernment, word of knowledge, words of wisdom, walking of miracles e.t.c [1 Corinthians 12:4-11]. it is the spirit that distributes these gifts but I wonder while the present church places much emphasis on tongues. Well, maybe that's because tongues are the easiest to fake. Maybe I said.

Now to my honest questions:

1. If speaking in tongues only edifies the one who speaks it and not the body of Christ as it is in 1 Corinthians 14:4, why will any gospel musician incorporate an unknown tongue in his or her song lyrics for the body of Christ?

2. Where exactly is it written in the Bible that Christians should sing in tongues? Is there anywhere in the Bible the Apostles did? I know pentecostal christians will mention 1 Corinthians 14:15 but is that what Apostle Paul was really saying in that passage?

3. Why were the ancient gospel songs not incorporated with unknown tongues as we have now? Could it be that modern Christian worship has been hijacked by strange spirits?

Above are my reservations about the sudden proliferation of unknown tongues in modern gospel music. I will appreciate answers with biblical reference(s) to my questions in the comment section.

Thanks!
Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by edoairways: 3:45pm On Oct 16, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
False. Same Spirit, same tongues, no difference, expect in attitude and commitment to the things of God.
That is not true. Can explain why people were speaking in tongues when Peter was preaching? Was there interpreter?
Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:45pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin Half education is dangerous grin
Who are the Persians? If not the Iranians and Iraqi? Even as at today, I don’t if anybody is still alive speaking Aramaic! grin

Dunce look at the people that speaks ARAMAIC till today.

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:50pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:


Illiterate, codex sinaiticus is the oldest!
grin Copying and pasting does not make one smart. U are completely a novice grin

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:51pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin Copying and pasting does not make one smart. U are completely a novice grin

Desperate Illiterate, we are talking about oldest NEW TESTAMENT.

Dullard!

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:52pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin Copying and pasting does not make one smart. U are completely a novice grin
Desperate illiterate bwahahahah

Dullard!

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:54pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:


Illiteracy is bad, which country did he defeat the persian?
Gallilee? Jerusalem?
Guagemela bwahahahah
ARAMAIC Is NEVER a “persian language”.
grin Extremely silly remark! Even the only Aramaic we have in the Bible was the book written in Babylon by Daniel and is just only one chapter! Yet Aramaic is not a Persian language? Ok have it ur way. Thanks and bye
Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:55pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin Extremely silly remark! Even the only Aramaic we have in the Bible was the book written in Babylon by Daniel and is just only one chapter! Yet Aramaic is not a Persian language? Ok have it ur way. Thanks and bye

Illiterate, Old Testament was written in old Hebrew and aramaic.
What does “persian language” mean?, what century was it spoken in Jerusalem?

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 3:56pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin Extremely silly remark! Even the only Aramaic we have in the Bible was the book written in Babylon by Daniel and is just only one chapter! Yet Aramaic is not a Persian language? Ok have it ur way. Thanks and bye

Illiterate, Aramaic is a Semitic language just like hebrew language.

Dullard!

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Krismas(m): 3:59pm On Oct 16, 2022
Maynmann:

Desperate illiterate bwahahahah

Dullard!
grin The simple meaning of that is that Codex Sinaiticus is the oldest script having both the New Testament, some Old Testament and Apocryphal. The Vaticanus is ONLY just New Testament and is the oldest New Testament we have. Mumu grin bye
Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 4:01pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin The simple meaning of that is that Codex Sinaiticus is the oldest script having both the New Testament, some Old Testament and Apocryphal. The Vaticanus is ONLY just New Testament and is the oldest New Testament we have. Mumu grin bye

Illiterate. Keep disgracing yourself cheesy
Dullard bye!

Re: The Proliferation Of Unknown Tongues In Modern Gospel Music by Maynmann: 4:03pm On Oct 16, 2022
Krismas:
grin The simple meaning of that is that Codex Sinaiticus is the oldest script having both the New Testament, some Old Testament and Apocryphal. The Vaticanus is ONLY just New Testament and is the oldest New Testament we have. Mumu grin bye
Illiterate where are you getting your thrash from?
Jesus spoke yiddish?
Aramaic is a “persian language”?
Vaticanus only contains New Testament?


Krismas Is a Dullard!!! Bwahahahah

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