Krismas:
Mumu. U are the one that has to tell me, how the garden of Eden is in SOUTHERN MESOPOTAMIA
Cos ur prove speculated three places! Iran, Iraq and Armenia. How do u know for sure?

Idiot, They are all under Mesopotamia.
Stop assuming THRASH, bring out fact, illiterate!

Maynmann:

Idiot, maybe i start calling you yiddish language?
Jesus is a transliterated English word gotten from latin iesus and greek lesous, the ARAMAIC name is yeshua, the correct translation of yeshua is JOSHUA!, early church fathers corrupted the name.
Most Old Testament was written in PALEO HEBREW.
Hebrew language was just created!
Illiterate stop disgracing yourself!

Mumu! Oh! I coming back to Yiddish U canbe sure. Its complete falsehood Jesus spoke Aramaic! I don’t care if d pope said it. Its no different from the Yeshua or Joshua u calling Jesus or the Jesus u calling Jesus. Joshua is a work back from English back to Hebrew. The text said, u shall call his name Jesus for HE shall save his people from their sins. So, his name means God shall save his people from their sins. This was how Joshua or YAHoshua was worked back. It could be fake. Its not certain or cast in stone
As for Hebrew and Paleo Hebrew, it’s not so hard to download the so-called Paleo Bible and compare it to the new Hebrew Bible. Maybe it will force u to shutup

Krismas:
Mumu! Oh! I coming back to Yiddish U canbe sure. Its complete falsehood Jesus spoke Aramaic! I don’t care if d pope said it. Its no different from the Yeshua or Joshua u calling Jesus or the Jesus u calling Jesus. Joshua is a work back from English back to Hebrew. The text said, u shall call his name Jesus for HE shall save his people from their sins. So, his name means God shall save his people from their sins. This was how Joshua or YAHoshua was worked back. It could be fake. Its not certain or cast in stone
As for Hebrew and Paleo Hebrew, it’s not so hard to download the so-called Paleo Bible and compare it to the new Hebrew Bible. Maybe it will force u to shutup

Idiot, You just said jargons.
Hebrew bible is called tanakh gotten from MASOTERIC TEXT!
Paleo Hebrew is a language not a bible, the tanakh was written in paleo Hebrew, got it?
You are a dunce.

Maynmann:

Idiot, They are all under Mesopotamia.
Stop assuming THRASH, bring out fact, illiterate!

Mumu
All of a sudden, U didn’t know the difference btw Mesopotamia and southern-Mesopotamia? U said southern Mesopotamia

Krismas:
Mumu
All of a sudden, I didn’t know the difference btw Mesopotamia and southern-Mesopotamia? U said southern Mesopotamia

Dunce, is southern Mesopotamia not in Mesopotamia? You are becoming empty!
You are yet to show me where garden of eden is in Africa.

OnknownSoldier:
If you are conversant with the modern-day gospel music industry, you would have noticed a sudden surge of unknown tongues in many gospel songs from gospel artists of mostly black descent. This sudden development in my opinion is worthy of serious interrogation as the Bible says that we should test all spirits so as know which is of God [1 John 4:1].

The gospel songs I knew while growing up emphasized godly living using language(s) that can be understood. The hymns for example are written in plain language(s) and one can attest to the fact that those songs are divinely inspired and spirit-filled. Meanwhile, the present crops of gospel music raving the moment are mostly incorporated with unknown tongues and spiritual chants that can not be understood by anyone and yet we have not found a single interpreter to interpret the tongues in these popular songs. I believe that in itself negates the fundamental injunction stated by Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 14:27.

I have been to megachurches in several regions of Nigeria where I have heard worship leaders repeating the same tongues in these popular gospel records verbatim and I get confused each time. Damn! Something is wrong somewhere. It's almost impossible to hear a gospel record these days without hearing an unknown tongue in it. Could that be the latest marketing strategy to sell gospel records?

Yes! I believe in tongues but I also believe that not all spirit-filled Christians must speak in tongues. Some operate in other gifts like prophecy, Discernment, word of knowledge, words of wisdom, walking of miracles e.t.c [1 Corinthians 12:4-11]. it is the spirit that distributes these gifts but I wonder while the present church places much emphasis on tongues. Well, maybe that's because tongues are the easiest to fake. Maybe I said.

Now to my honest questions:

1. If speaking in tongues only edifies the one who speaks it and not the body of Christ as it is in 1 Corinthians 14:4, why will any gospel musician incorporate an unknown tongue in his or her song lyrics for the body of Christ?

2. Where exactly is it written in the Bible that Christians should sing in tongues? Is there anywhere in the Bible the Apostles did? I know pentecostal christians will mention 1 Corinthians 14:15 but is that what Apostle Paul was really saying in that passage?

3. Why were the ancient gospel songs not incorporated with unknown tongues as we have now? Could it be that modern Christian worship has been hijacked by strange spirits?

Above are my reservations about the sudden proliferation of unknown tongues in modern gospel music. I will appreciate answers with biblical reference(s) to my questions in the comment section.

Thanks!

If you can speak a language, why can't you sing with it?
I think your question should be IF the understand the Bible standpoint on speaking/singing in tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:27-28 (NIV)
If anyone speaks in a tongue, two or at the most three should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.

Now, the real question is, is anyone able to interpret what these artists sing? But even at that; how can one repeat the tongues(embedded message) in a song they don't know? Because they could be demonic tongues.

I've had testimonies of people who do not know a certain language they spoke under the influence of the Holy Spirit but there was someone who could interpret.

Refer to Pentecost; the fact that some mocked the disciples and thought they were drunk (Acts 2:12-13), suggests that the gift of interpretation was not given to all present.

The evidence seems to suggest that the disciples were all able to speak in tongues, but the Holy Spirit was giving particular individuals the gift of interpretation. So that, “each one in the crowd stood in amazement as they heard the disciples speaking in his own native language.”

I Corinthians 14 : 2-4
2
For anyone who speaks in a tongue [1] does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.
3
But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort.
4
He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.

Prophecies can be given in tongues (of men) and it is the Holy Spirit that gives interpretation. If no one has come out to say, this is the message this gospel art is passing. Therefore, those supposed tongues beyond human interpretation are for God and should be done in secret.

Differences between Angelic tongues and demonic tongues

1. Repetitions
God hates repetitions for He is not deaf (Matthew 6) and when speaking in Angelic tongues you cannot speak in repetitions
Demonic tongues are full of repetitions and chantings

2. Spoken publicly
Angelic tongues are for you to speak secretly only to God
Demonic tongues are publicly used for fame, pride, prestige, envy, show-off, boasting, etc

3. Not fluent and with flaws
In the same manner you speak tongues of men fluently and flawlessly, so do you speak angelic tongues under the Holy Spirit, but this is not so with demonic tongues.
Demonic tongues are not fluent, full of repetitions, same words, same sentences and full of flaws

4. Spoken by people with no fruits of the Holy Spirit at all
Angelic tongues are spoken by those in Jesus, Baptized with the Holy Spirit, thus fruits of the Holy Spirit are manifested in them

Demonic tongues are spoken by those without the fruits of the Holy Spirit, the wicked, blasphemous, hypocrites, those who deny the Power and fight it, godliness with no power, etc.

When indeed you have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you, you can identify a demonic tongue from miles away
What is spoken in majority of churches today in the name of speaking in tongues is demonic tongues

Unless a person is delivered, many speaking in demonic tongues cannot know its demonic – a prisoner knows no freedom

Maynmann:


Idiot, You just said jargons.
Hebrew bible is called tanakh gotten from MASOTERIC TEXT!
You are a dunce.

Trust me, I hardly care about all the useless things u pasting! Lol! Do u even know who the Masoretes were? What u mean Masoteric?
I was telling u abt d guess names u are giving to the son of God and u are backing d wrong tree? Eli-sha is same as God saves. I also call him Yahisha. I call him dat personally

edoairways:

That is not true. Can explain why people were speaking in tongues when Peter was preaching? Was there interpreter?

You can choose what you want to believe but the Truth is that speaking in tongues has not changed from what it used to be at the time because it's the same Spirit that they had who gave them the utterance, that's still on Earth so up til this very day, He's still giving the same kind of utterance. I am a personal witness to that fact.

Every utterance He gives has a meaning and purpose but it may not always be understood by man, however speaking gibberish nonsense in the name of speaking in tongues, that's tongues without the utterance of the Spirit is equal to vanity and has no meaning or profit. I was doing that out of ignorance like many christians do today at some point including when I was born again because I was misled by false teachings in the church, but the difference between us and such ones is that we were honest enough to ourselves and to God to stop and wait for the real thing like the apostles did.

Krismas:
Trust me, I hardly care about all the useless things u pasting! Lol! Do u even know who the Masoretes were? What u mean Masoteric?
I was telling u abt d guess names u are giving to the son of God and u are backing d wrong tree? Eli-sha is same as God saves. I also call him Yahisha. I call him dat personally

I hardly care about your dumb assumptions too that you pull from your smelling Ass lol.

First time of hearing “masoteric” huh illiterate?
In semitic language, EL is the patheon god.
Elishu'a means El is my salvation.
Yah is a egyptian hieroglyphs.
El and Yah also called yahu are different deities.
Yahu is one of the sons of El!

Maynmann:


Dunce, is southern Mesopotamia not in Mesopotamia? You are becoming empty!
You are yet to show me where garden of eden is in Africa.

Ok. If u say so But its a thing I am unwilling to launch into tonite 4rivers went in to water the garden. One of the river is Gihorn Let me leave it at dat for now. And unfortunately, I cannot continue d debate for tonight. Let’s do it again some other time Am behind on some other task

Krismas:
Ok. If u say so But its a thing I am unwilling to launch into tonite 4rivers went in to water the garden. One of the river is Gihorn Let me leave it at dat for now. And unfortunately, I cannot continue d debate for tonight. Let’s do it again some other time Am behind on some other task

Stop pulling Trash from your smelling ass, illiterate.
Where is garden of eden in africa?

OnknownSoldier:
If you are conversant with the modern-day gospel music industry, you would have noticed a sudden surge of unknown tongues in many gospel songs from gospel artists of mostly black descent. This sudden development in my opinion is worthy of serious interrogation as the Bible says that we should test all spirits so as know which is of God [1 John 4:1].

The gospel songs I knew while growing up emphasized godly living using language(s) that can be understood. The hymns for example are written in plain language(s) and one can attest to the fact that those songs are divinely inspired and spirit-filled. Meanwhile, the present crops of gospel music raving the moment are mostly incorporated with unknown tongues and spiritual chants that can not be understood by anyone and yet we have not found a single interpreter to interpret the tongues in these popular songs. I believe that in itself negates the fundamental injunction stated by Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 14:27.

I have been to megachurches in several regions of Nigeria where I have heard worship leaders repeating the same tongues in these popular gospel records verbatim and I get confused each time. Damn! Something is wrong somewhere. It's almost impossible to hear a gospel record these days without hearing an unknown tongue in it. Could that be the latest marketing strategy to sell gospel records?

Yes! I believe in tongues but I also believe that not all spirit-filled Christians must speak in tongues. Some operate in other gifts like prophecy, Discernment, word of knowledge, words of wisdom, walking of miracles e.t.c [1 Corinthians 12:4-11]. it is the spirit that distributes these gifts but I wonder while the present church places much emphasis on tongues. Well, maybe that's because tongues are the easiest to fake. Maybe I said.

Now to my honest questions:

1. If speaking in tongues only edifies the one who speaks it and not the body of Christ as it is in 1 Corinthians 14:4, why will any gospel musician incorporate an unknown tongue in his or her song lyrics for the body of Christ?

2. Where exactly is it written in the Bible that Christians should sing in tongues? Is there anywhere in the Bible the Apostles did? I know pentecostal christians will mention 1 Corinthians 14:15 but is that what Apostle Paul was really saying in that passage?

3. Why were the ancient gospel songs not incorporated with unknown tongues as we have now? Could it be that modern Christian worship has been hijacked by strange spirits?

Above are my reservations about the sudden proliferation of unknown tongues in modern gospel music. I will appreciate answers with biblical reference(s) to my questions in the comment section.

Thanks!

I don dey ask this question since... Speaking in tongues in music pure scam... That's why I don hate some musicians I used to like

Krismas:
Ok. If u say so But its a thing I am unwilling to launch into tonite 4rivers went in to water the garden. One of the river is Gihorn Let me leave it at dat for now. And unfortunately, I cannot continue d debate for tonight. Let’s do it again some other time Am behind on some other task

And it’s called “gihon”, you are just rushing to learn this thing illiterate!

Maynmann:

I hardly care about your dumb assumptions too that you pull from your smelling Ass lol.

First time of hearing “masoteric” huh illiterate?
In semitic language, EL is the patheon god.
Elishu'a means El is my salvation.
Yah is a egyptian hieroglyphs.
El and Yah also called yahu are different deities.
Yahu is one of the sons of El!

Even after correcting the mumu he is still writing Masoteric? Wot u have is Masoretic. Then I am not surprised about ur folly on El. Most things I say is Bible based. Eli-Yah is biblical means El is Yah. Eli-Sha means El saves. Jesus can also be Elisha or Yahisha. That’s all am saying. I don’t need your fake lecture on El yah or yahu. Cos it all lies.
Then pls, let continue some other time. Mumu?

Krismas:
Even after correcting the mumu he is still writing Masoteric? Wot u have is Masoretic. Then I am not surprised about ur folly on El. Most things I say is Bible based. Eli-Yah is biblical means El is Yah. Eli-Sha means El saves. Jesus can also be Elisha or Yahisha. That’s all am saying. I don’t need your fake lecture on El yah or yahu. Cos it all lies.
Then pls, let continue some other time. Mumu?

You are the dunce that needs correction.
The tanakh was written in paleo Hebrew, the language existed before tanakh was created.
Illiterate Jesus in hebrew is yeshua, not elshua.
El is the patheon god. Yahweh is one of the elohim!
Dullard!

Krismas:
Even after correcting the mumu he is still writing Masoteric? Wot u have is Masoretic. Then I am not surprised about ur folly on El. Most things I say is Bible based. Eli-Yah is biblical means El is Yah. Eli-Sha means El saves. Jesus can also be Elisha or Yahisha. That’s all am saying. I don’t need your fake lecture on El yah or yahu. Cos it all lies.
Then pls, let continue some other time. Mumu?

You see the person in this picture, that’s your El, your god!
I don’t need your dumb assumptions gotten from your empty brain!

Maynmann:

And it’s called “gihon”, you are just rushing to learn this thing illiterate!

O! Gihon! Sorry o! I write mostly from memory. And u quoting Herodotus Another Mumu dat said there is a bookshop under the pyramid of Giza?

Krismas:
O! Gihon! Sorry o! I write mostly from memory. And u quoting Herodotus Another Mumu dat said there is a bookshop under the pyramid of Giza?

Gihon formerly called river of araxes!
Dummy!

Krismas:
Even after correcting the mumu he is still writing Masoteric? Wot u have is Masoretic. Then I am not surprised about ur folly on El. Most things I say is Bible based. Eli-Yah is biblical means El is Yah. Eli-Sha means El saves. Jesus can also be Elisha or Yahisha. That’s all am saying. I don’t need your fake lecture on El yah or yahu. Cos it all lies.
Then pls, let continue some other time. Mumu?

According to your picture you sent, El even goes further to phonecian and it’s called “ilu”
Eliyah iluyah right, dummy ?

jesusjnr2020:
You can choose what you want to believe but the Truth is that speaking in tongues has not changed from what it used to be at the time because it's the same Spirit that they had who gave them the utterance, that's still on Earth so up til this very day, He's still giving the same kind of utterance. I am a personal witness to that fact.

Every utterance He gives has a meaning and purpose but it may not always be understood by man, however speaking gibberish nonsense in the name of speaking in tongues, that's tongues without the utterance of the Spirit is equal to vanity and has no meaning or profit. I was doing that out of ignorance like many christians do today at some point including when I was born again because I was misled by false teachings in the church, but the difference between us and such ones is that we were honest enough to ourselves and to God to stop and wait for the real thing like the apostles did.

Mr man you haven't answered the question? Some Christians just know God in one dimension

lookingfly:
make i mention the denomination

Lol

Maynmann:

You see the person in this picture, that’s your El, your god!
I don’t need your dumb assumptions gotten from your empty brain!

Its a heathen depiction of El. It is absolutely wrong. But no different from the images of Jesus Christ u find today. Completely apostate

Krismas:
Its a heathen depiction of El. It is absolutely wrong. But no different from the images of Jesus Christ u find today. Completely apostate

El is one of the Akkadian gods, dummy.
Yahweh is one of his sons.
Do you want to see El wife?

Brooktrader:



If you can speak a language, why can't you sing with it?
I think your question should be IF the understand the Bible standpoint on speaking/singing in tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:27-28 (NIV)
If anyone speaks in a tongue, two or at the most three should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.

Now, the real question is, is anyone able to interpret what these artists sing? But even at that; how can one repeat the tongues(embedded message) in a song they don't know? Because they could be demonic tongues.

I've had testimonies of people who do not know a certain language they spoke under the influence of the Holy Spirit but there was someone who could interpret.

Refer to Pentecost; the fact that some mocked the disciples and thought they were drunk (Acts 2:12-13), suggests that the gift of interpretation was not given to all present.

The evidence seems to suggest that the disciples were all able to speak in tongues, but the Holy Spirit was giving particular individuals the gift of interpretation. So that, “each one in the crowd stood in amazement as they heard the disciples speaking in his own native language.”

I Corinthians 14 : 2-4
2
For anyone who speaks in a tongue [1] does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.
3
But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort.
4
He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.

Prophecies can be given in tongues (of men) and it is the Holy Spirit that gives interpretation. If no one has come out to say, this is the message this gospel art is passing. Therefore, those supposed tongues beyond human interpretation are for God and should be done in secret.

Differences between Angelic tongues and demonic tongues

1. Repetitions
God hates repetitions for He is not deaf (Matthew 6) and when speaking in Angelic tongues you cannot speak in repetitions
Demonic tongues are full of repetitions and chantings

2. Spoken publicly
Angelic tongues are for you to speak secretly only to God
Demonic tongues are publicly used for fame, pride, prestige, envy, show-off, boasting, etc

3. Not fluent and with flaws
In the same manner you speak tongues of men fluently and flawlessly, so do you speak angelic tongues under the Holy Spirit, but this is not so with demonic tongues.
Demonic tongues are not fluent, full of repetitions, same words, same sentences and full of flaws

4. Spoken by people with no fruits of the Holy Spirit at all
Angelic tongues are spoken by those in Jesus, Baptized with the Holy Spirit, thus fruits of the Holy Spirit are manifested in them

Demonic tongues are spoken by those without the fruits of the Holy Spirit, the wicked, blasphemous, hypocrites, those who deny the Power and fight it, godliness with no power, etc.

When indeed you have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you, you can identify a demonic tongue from miles away
What is spoken in majority of churches today in the name of speaking in tongues is demonic tongues

Unless a person is delivered, many speaking in demonic tongues cannot know its demonic – a prisoner knows no freedom

Wow! You really took your time to explain in detail. I appreciate your effort.

For the sake of clarity, you wrote that tongues are languages and can be used to sing. So let me ask you, have you thought of writing in tongues before? Since it’s a language. Is it even possible?

I will be waiting to see you respond to this. Thanks!

Maynmann:

According to your picture you sent, El even goes further to phonecian and it’s called “ilu”
Eliyah iluyah right, dummy ?

Even after correcting urself U still typed rubbish?
Look at ur post, Eli is generic. The Eli of Israel is not the Eli of the Philistines

Krismas:
Even after correcting urself U still typed rubbish?
Look at ur post, Eli is generic. The Eli of Israel is not the Eli of the Philistines

Illiterate, it’s El not Eli and it is not a “israel or phililistines” word.
El is the grand patheon of cannanite gods.

Maynmann:


El is one of the Akkadian gods, dummy.
Yahweh is one of his sons.
Do you want to see El wife?

Which Eli?
There is no Yahweh anywhere in the Bible. U guys are the ones trying to force occultism on us or burglarize the Bible

Krismas:
Which Eli?

Illiterate, It’s called El traced back to phoenician

Krismas:
Which Eli?
There is no Yahweh anywhere in the Bible. U guys are the ones trying to force occultism on us or burglarize the Bible

There’s yahweh in the tanakh, dummy.

Maynmann:


Illiterate, It’s called El traced back to phoenician

Ofcourse Mumu! Which El? Yahweh is not a biblical name. It has been long rejected by the Jews as a fake name for God

Krismas:
Ofcourse Mumu! Which Eli? Yahweh is not a biblical name. It has been long rejected by the Jews as a fake name for God

Idiot, Yahweh is one of the tetragrammation of YHWH. Jehovah is the greek tetragrammation of YHWH!
El is the patheon god in cannan.

where did the jews reject it as fake name? Stop assuming THRASH!
“god” is a English word, jews speak English?

Maynmann:


There’s yahweh in the tanakh, dummy.

Mumu! Why not show me in d Tanakh? The name of the God of the Bible is YHWH. It is never Yahweh.