Dtruthspeaker:


Nature sides with Truth

And nature has already shown us that animals do not give birth to humans.

So this is just a case of fallacy by using the Truth we know to lie and cover things we do not see.

I can't even debate with you. Your ignorance of science and scientific methods is amazing and legendary

Aemmyjah:


He himself said he's an Ape and of Ape family
He does not want to accept common reasoning and sense
He wants to be wise and accept SPECULATION that Man came from animals. Parrots can talk but their speech is not intelligent. Chimpanzee has every organs just as humans that help us speak but they cannot do that. How will they explain that? Besides, there is no record of any languageless group or tribe of people that ever lived to prove their evil theory

Lol. Animals have vocal and non-vocal means of communication. Chimps have vocal cords too which is poorly linked to their brain

jaephoenix:

Scientists lie to us?
Cool. So where did the fossils of the dinos and cave men come from?
Oh I forgot MadMax(or you, I can't remember ) said his sculptor made those fossils. Wonderful revelations

Which fossils of cavemen?!
I don't disagree with that or dinos just as I don't disagree with that of mammoth
The lie is that life and living forms came as a product of evolution. I think differently as they can't show interlinking classes to prove or any of the Apeman they lie about with their fake, reconstructed pictures

jaephoenix:

Lol. Animals have vocal and non-vocal means of communication. Chimps have vocal cords too which is poorly linked to their brain

Parrot and chimps
Which of them was created and which evolved?
Do you know of any languageless group of humans?

jaephoenix:

Can we see the prophecies, please?

Read Daniel
Read Matthew 24
Read Luke 21
Read Revelation 6

Again, as a reminder, apes don't comprehend revelation or prophecies

jaephoenix:

I showed you verses.
Also showed you your yhwh hardened the poor old Pharaoh's heart, so he can kill more of the Egyptians

Stupid liar
God never said anyone should eat dung
I proved it to you from those same verses which you read like a child
You're holding grudge with your Maker
Continue

jaephoenix:

I knew you didn't bother to click any of those links because you're scared of the truth
Lemme help you. If you did read, you'll find out specifically what the Bible copied from the Epic. So does that still make your Bible divinely inspired?

Lol
You can quote from the scriptures but you can't quote from the Epic
It's like you have problems with your line of reasoning
The book you condemned as myth is what you say it was actually copied from another book
You think like an Ape

jaephoenix:

Lol. Animals have vocal and non-vocal means of communication. Chimps have vocal cords too which is poorly linked to their brain

So we that have intelligent means of communication in form of language have cords perfectly linked to our brain. Did that linkage or connection happen by chance or as a result of design
Besides, I don't agree with your claims about chimps unless you have proof. I mean genuine proofs and not mere speculation

jaephoenix:

Lol. Youre indeed Mad Max

Until any atheist can reverse that God's word stands!

jaephoenix:

And we have told you we don't know how man came to be. We are still speculating. But you insist you know but you don't have any evidence whatsoever. Your only evidence is a book copied from ancient books with multitude of mistakes and falsehoods. Same with other religions. How can you trust such a book? The same way you take Quoran and it her Holy story books as scams, is the same way we behold yours, and the rest
Look, science says it doesn't know how we came here, but knows a tool called evolution that explains how we changed. There's no shame in saying "I don't know, but can we check this and this" instead of saying "Oh yes I know, this book says its like this" and the said book turns out to be a monumental scam

You are still speculating
You're free to keep speculating as long as your stupid speculations won't acknowledge a Creator
The Bible says that some people thought their righteousness were higher than God's
People today feel they are wiser than God
You're holding a grudge with him

I'm way ahead of you
I believe or know or accept convincingly that life and the universe has a designer or Creator or God
Until you come to your senses, I'm a million miles ahead of you so keep speculating

The funny thing about them is how they always conclude saying "i/we don't know" but then they're expecting those that believe in God to throw away their beliefs and follow the atheists who aren't even sure of their teaching.

Aemmyjah:

You are still speculating
You're free to keep speculating as long as your stupid speculations won't acknowledge a Creator
The Bible says that some people thought their righteousness were higher than God's
People today feel they are wiser than God
You're holding a grudge with him
I'm way ahead of you
I believe or know or accept convincingly that life and the universe has a designer or Creator or God
Until you come to your senses, I'm a million miles ahead of you so keep speculating

jaephoenix:

I can't even debate with you. Your ignorance of science and scientific methods is amazing and legendary

You cannot debate with me because your assertions do not reach nor pass The Laws and Tests of Truth!

Speculation and conjecture is not Evidence not to talk of it being admissible evidence.

Imagine me speculating and conjuring all kinds of connections that you the one who killed Abacha because you are a doctor, is that acceptable? Would you not tell me to prove beyond reasonable doubt and if I fail you would sue me?

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing about them is how they always conclude saying "i/we don't know" but then they're expecting those that believe in God to throw away their beliefs and follow the atheists who aren't even sure of their teaching.

I wonder ooo
I was in cart witnessing yesterday and a guy I once preached to approach
He was arguing about conscience
That animals also have conscience, they have morals and a sense of right and wrong. He keeps saying all I said was wrong
I asked him what conscience is,he says he does not know
I asked him if man has morals, he says he cannot conclude on that

Anything I say is wrong and when I ask for his opinion,he does not know or he is still doing research. How will you say I'm wrong when you don't know the basis of our discussion
Same guy said he's praying to God for Revelation. He does not know Bible but he wants God to reveal things to him
Tomorrow, we'll meet to discuss about the soul and spirit. I was really happy doing research overnight but I was anxious too. How will I start the conversation? He's actually a very very indecisive person

The title of this thread is actually misleading
Science has not removed imperfection, old age and suffering
Many people are dying and in poverty
Science has made weapons that can destroy all living forms within seconds
Our very existence is at risk
Science now predict doom for all mankind
Yet, someone think that science is the answer to our problems

Very misleading post

Aemmyjah:

I wonder ooo
I was in cart witnessing yesterday and a guy I once preached to approach
He was arguing about conscience
That animals also have conscience, they have morals and a sense of right and wrong. He keeps saying all I said was wrong
I asked him what conscience is,he says he does not know
I asked him if man has morals, he says he cannot conclude on that
Anything I say is wrong and when I ask for his opinion,he does not know or he is still doing research. How will you say I'm wrong when you don't know the basis of our discussion
Same guy said he's praying to God for Revelation. He does not know Bible but he wants God to reveal things to him
Tomorrow, we'll meet to discuss about the soul and spirit. I was really happy doing research overnight but I was anxious too. How will I start the conversation? He's actually a very very indecisive person

I was with the cart too yesterday but i don't talk much because we are only to present what we have but if anyone wants to start an argument we direct them to jw.org for further information on what they want to know .

Try not to entertain any lengthy conversation with people when you're doing cart witnessing because they will become a stumbling block for others who are truly interested in knowing the truth!

MaxInDHouse:


I was with the cart too yesterday but i don't talk much because we are only to present what we have but if anyone wants to start an argument we direct them to jw.org for further information on what they want to know .

Try not to entertain any lengthy conversation with people when you're doing cart witnessing because they will become a stumbling block for others who are truly interested in knowing the truth!

Yeah, I know the guy
He did not obstruct cos he was under the umbrella

He's very intelligent and wants to know but his way of thinking is just like philosophers, they don't want to know truth but just to be overly critical over anything or everything. I'm just thinking of what to say to tell him why being indecisive is not good
For example, I told him that 'This Bible is silver color and someone says it is black, both cannot be true' cos I pointed to a Bible, the NWT to illustrate. What he said just made me weak. He said 'but silver is a form of black color' some people way of thinking is both good and harmful

jaephoenix:

I see you have a severe case of dissonance. Let me help you out.
Someone fell from a skyscraper and was mangled on the street below. The street had a crowd of people but somehow only one person saw the dead person. Would you believe it?

How many times have you been in the market and a bike knocked down someone but only one person saw the event and the rest used the evidence of the circumstances to reasonably agree with the seer that what he saw was True?

When the police came did they not point out that only one particular person saw "the whole thing"?

You really do not have any valid thing to say you are just seeking opportunity to abuse and insult me because I destroy your Lies.

With SCIENCE and MONEY, THE CURSE ON ADAM AND EVE BECOME SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY AND IMPORTANT AS THE WORDS OF GOD FOR LIFE.

Aemmyjah:


Yeah, I know the guy
He did not obstruct cos he was under the umbrella

He's very intelligent and wants to know but his way of thinking is just like philosophers, they don't want to know truth but just to be overly critical over anything or everything. I'm just thinking of what to say to tell him why being indecisive is not good
For example, I told him that 'This Bible is silver color and someone says it is black, both cannot be true' cos I pointed to a Bible, the NWT to illustrate. What he said just made me weak. He said 'but silver is a form of black color' some people way of thinking is both good and harmful

Whenever you're visiting him go there with a mature brother or sister who is advanced in age most of them have encountered his type!

Dtruthspeaker:


How many times have you been in the market and a bike knocked down someone but only one person saw the event and the rest used the evidence of the circumstances to reasonably agree with the seer that what he saw was True?

When the police came did they not point out that only one particular person saw "the whole thing"?

You really do not have any valid thing to say you are just seeking opportunity to abuse and insult me because I destroy your Lies.

No sire. I have seen no such events. If you have, please do share details

Dtruthspeaker:


You cannot debate with me because your assertions do not reach nor pass The Laws and Tests of Truth!

Speculation and conjecture is not Evidence not to talk of it being admissible evidence.

Imagine me speculating and conjuring all kinds of connections that you the one who killed Abacha because you are a doctor, is that acceptable? Would you not tell me to prove beyond reasonable doubt and if I fail you would sue me?

You just veered off tangent. We're talking about speculations on how we got to this earth. There are many theories. Evolution is a means of explaining how there's diversity in life. Evolution is not a religion. Neither is it a law. Its just a scientific tool, like gravity etc. I have said it several times but you and Aemyjah somehow twist my words. Science is using experiments to determine how we got here. None of us were here before and so no reliable data. Your story book aka Bible tells a story that has so many holes and outright lies that its not accepted. If you want me to expound on the lies and contradictions, do tell me. They are so many, but I'll concentrate on those ones bothering on creation alone and leave the rest of the lies.
Do you now get it?

Aemmyjah:


I wonder ooo
I was in cart witnessing yesterday and a guy I once preached to approach
He was arguing about conscience
That animals also have conscience, they have morals and a sense of right and wrong. He keeps saying all I said was wrong
I asked him what conscience is,he says he does not know
I asked him if man has morals, he says he cannot conclude on that

Anything I say is wrong and when I ask for his opinion,he does not know or he is still doing research. How will you say I'm wrong when you don't know the basis of our discussion
Same guy said he's praying to God for Revelation. He does not know Bible but he wants God to reveal things to him
Tomorrow, we'll meet to discuss about the soul and spirit. I was really happy doing research overnight but I was anxious too. How will I start the conversation? He's actually a very very indecisive person

Yes, animals have morals, intelligence and conscience. They're not all about kill and eat. And morals is relative. What is morally right years ago may not be today. What is moral in Islam may be immoral in Christianity. What is moral is Nigeria, may not be in Sweden. What's moral for me as a kid, may not be as an adult. Morality also change as we advance

Dtruthspeaker:


That is even why the Bible is True. There can only be one source. Exactly as a car, phone, fridge tv etc has only one manufacturers manual. And we go to that one manual for everything.

Any other source must come under and after that single source which is what is already proven.

All other valid reports acknowledge the Truth that they are less than the Bible and they rather point to the Bible.

This definitely tells us the Bible's report is True.

You keep displaying crass ignorance or lack of logic anytime you open your mouth. Who says gadgets have only one manual? Some have different manuals. Some manuals you can download online, some manuals are made by third parties etc
By the way, how does this relate to creation?
Which valid report points to the Bible?

Aemmyjah:


He himself said he's an Ape and of Ape family
He does not want to accept common reasoning and sense
He wants to be wise and accept SPECULATION that Man came from animals. Parrots can talk but their speech is not intelligent. Chimpanzee has every organs just as humans that help us speak but they cannot do that. How will they explain that? Besides, there is no record of any languageless group or tribe of people that ever lived to prove their evil theory

Which common reasoning? That I came from dust? Or women came from a single rib? Or donkeys now rap music? Just like Shrek. If the Bible is true, I might as well believe the donkey in shrek actually talks, or the snake in Lion King is real

Aemmyjah:


Which fossils of cavemen?!
I don't disagree with that or dinos just as I don't disagree with that of mammoth
The lie is that life and living forms came as a product of evolution. I think differently as they can't show interlinking classes to prove or any of the Apeman they lie about with their fake, reconstructed pictures

Below are the different parts of ancient humans which we evolved from
As you can see, these mandibles, calvaria etc are not from modern man, and are definitely not chimps. So evidence of cavemen or prehistoric men abound
Again, evolution didn’t tell us how live came to be. Are you dyslexic or just lack simple comprehension skills. This is the fourth time in this thread I'm saying it

Aemmyjah:


Parrot and chimps
Which of them was created and which evolved?
Do you know of any languageless group of humans?

None was created
Language simply means communication. There are means animals communicate. Some by vocal means, signs, actions etc

jaephoenix:

Below are the different parts of ancient humans which we evolved from
As you can see, these mandibles, calvaria etc are not from modern man, and are definitely not chimps. So evidence of cavemen or prehistoric men abound
Again, evolution didn’t tell us how live came to be. Are you dyslexic or just lack simple comprehension skills. This is the fourth time in this thread I'm saying it

Their names please!

jaephoenix:

None was created
Language simply means communication. There are means animals communicate. Some by vocal means, signs, actions etc

YES! And the book (Bible) made us to understand that only humans talks while all other creatures use gesture until God confused our language making us speak in different tongues {Genesis 11:1-9} from that day those speaking the same language settle in a geographical location and fight other to protect their land.

Then God promised to unite obedient mankind again making them speak one language (understanding) among them! Zephaniah 3:9 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4

So communication is a means of knowing and understanding one another instead of fighting and killing ourselves like beasts do.

Surely God's word is right while your evolution theory is wrong!

Aemmyjah:


Read Daniel
Read Matthew 24
Read Luke 21
Read Revelation 6

Again, as a reminder, apes don't comprehend revelation or prophecies

1. But apes made the phone and internet you're using to type trash

2. I took my precious time to go through Matthew 24(even though I know you never go through my links for fear of the truth)

soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Can you tell me where the prophecy is here? Wars and conflicts are normal human occurrences. There are many wars being fought currently as we speak, apart from the Russia Ukraine war. And wars didn’t start today. Worse wars have been fought years ago and I'm sure the Christians then assumed it was the end of time

Aemmyjah:


Stupid liar
God never said anyone should eat dung
I proved it to you from those same verses which you read like a child
You're holding grudge with your Maker
Continue

Lol. For the last time, I cannot begrudge someone that I assume doesn't exist. Can you begrudge Thor?

jaephoenix:

1. But apes made the phone and internet you're using to type trash

APES made it but humans are using it right?

Your brain need a reset!

Aemmyjah:


Lol
You can quote from the scriptures but you can't quote from the Epic
It's like you have problems with your line of reasoning
The book you condemned as myth is what you say it was actually copied from another book
You think like an Ape

You want me to copy paste from the Epic to prove my point? Bros, if you don't want to check out the Epic of Gilgamesh or other ancient books, its your loss. Continue believing whatever rocks your boat